While I regard both Russia and Georgia as being at fault, I'll admit as a westerner that the media DID seem to be pro-Georgian and made Russia out to be the aggressor even though Georgia attacked first. I've got nothing against either people but the Georgian President was an idiot to have his armed forces attack Russia, it's never a good idea to do that as history has shown.
Look, all I know is that there is corruption everywhere; and we're the targets. We know that there is corruption in the Georgian government. It's obvious. We also know that there is some corruption in Russia's government. More importanly, we also know that there is major corruption here at home in America; more corruption than the rest of the world.
The solution? Start placing more trust in your fellow human beings and less trust into politics. Politics are only little games, not real life.
Hey guys, you are so unscrupulous and dishonest! It is really big stupidity, foolishness to speak about how ugly is Mr. Saakashvili and not to speak about your fuckin Russian Lilliputian presindetPutin. War started Russian federation, when they bombed every day the peaceful civilians in Georgian villages. And very soon, we will have time, when this monster, called russian federation will be destroyed and your fuckin oil and gas will be over.
Hey guys, you are so unscrupulous and dishonest! It is really big stupidity, foolishness to speak about how ugly is Mr. Saakashvili and not to speak about your fuckin Russian Lilliputian presindetPutin. War started Russian federation, when they bombed every day the peaceful civilians in Georgian villages. And very soon, we will have time, when this monster, called russian federation will be destroyed and your fuckin oil and gas will be over.
The problem seems to be that while the USA is continuing to spread its routine anti-russian/Latin America/Middle East provocations,neither of those places are adequate enough to counter it seeing as they are politically and socially messed up enough-and while most Russian students keep getting wasted and paying for their degrees,while the best they can reply is something 'a little stupid' or angry, if not extremely so as is the case most often. "smb hurt smb" is as far as it ever gets. you know?
USA and Georgia both employ propaganda. You can tell that these kids are indoctrinated but so are the American people. The indoctrinated young are brainwashed to be pawns in the chessboard game of greedy rich aristocrats.
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Remember the hostages of te Moscow theatre who all died? Remember the FSB false-flag house bombing action, to create a premise for Chechen war? Remember Holodomor? Remember the repressed who died in Gulag and other labour camps? Or that pointless war in Afganistan?
Russia's government hates and despises people. I don't care what they say to fool us, because only what they DO and DID is relevant
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A war of Russia against Georgia was just a chance to use military force (and only if your army is at the state of war you get a chance to develop and use new kinds of weaponry to the full extent), to make russians believe they live in a powerful state, to destabilize Georgia (a potential NATO member).
Russia, as any other wanna-be empire (like US or China), never cared about human lives.
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Russia cares about S.Ossetian people??? hahahahahaha yeah right.
They don't even care about their own - -look at all the prostitution, drug abuse, child pornography, alcoholism, all the homeless and unemployed etc. This is a genocide of Russian government agains their own citizens, and they dare to say that they invaded S.Ossetia because they cared about that people????
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Don't trust Russian women. They use pussy to get ahead and then turn cold on you. I'm married to a Russian. My mom is married to a Russian. Russia is the cancer of the world.
Good then tell your friends to stop setting up bases around them and leave them alone. You must avoid cancer... so leave Russians the fuck alone and get on with your life....
In fact, everyone born in Moscow - except me - needs to be targeted by Javelins. We must rid this world of the Russians to advance freedom and democracy. From Mikhail Fradkov to Maria Sharapova, they must all be put to the Javelin.
Except Khodorkovsky and Felgenhauer. They love freedom.
Wow real solid evidance you have an article on LA TIMES. WE ALL MUST BELIEVE YOU OR ELSE RIGHT? Have you been to russia lately? Most of it's population is well educated and yet someone like you wants to annihilate and entire city with javelins which is more than 12 million people. Wow gj that will set a new world record.
My friends, don't be fooled. I am Max Boot from the Council on Foreign Relations and believe me, these people are agents of the Putin regime and the Red Army intent on crushing human rights and press freedoms. Every single one of them and their entire families need to be destroyed by Javelins.
Well said. Our Media fucked things up and made it sound like "Russia was attacking Georgia" when in all reality it's just another "N.Korea vs S.Korea" scenario. And again it's America who is trying to be the Big Dog and Stand up to Russia when Russia hasn't done anything wrong... I think both Bush and Sakashvilli are terrorists and need to be hung on a lamp post so the rest of the world can move on with their lives.
I am an American and I witness the U.S. media bias and propaganda on a daily basis. I think at least 80% of this country is so brainwashed they can not even think for themselves. Very sad indeed.
It is good that people express their opinion, but on other hand it is sad to see how one sided and well conditioned by their own propaganda are those young Russians. Sad for future of Russia. I hope it will change.
Well obviously there is a Russian propaganda and what despise me in it it is amount of hate it contain. Citing the bible "By their fruit you will recognize them". Looking to all this hate messages wrote by those stupid fagot: "Ukraine will be next in few months", "our armies will destroy western Europe"... (sorry one with bad words I simply ignore .. anyway who cares about them except authors) Russian propaganda is simply dangerous.
i would say western propaganda is even more dangerous. what would you like russians to do? to hush up evrybody who says the thing you mentioned? is it democratic way ?they are anyway in great minority. you better watch some videos about russians put on youtube by some georgian thugs. then come back and say your opinion.
well I think responsibility of stronger side is much higher then the weak one. So it is you as a Russian who are responsible of the situation there. I guess one of the best description of your current way of thinking is giving encyclopediadramatica :"They also ignore that even though most of the world hate each other, they agree Russia is a pretty fucked up place. Watch them just continue calling everything that makes them look bad "AMERICAN PROPOGANDA"
lol. i just happened to know very well western propaganda ( or press-media if you wish). so take the citation *pretty fucked up* somewhere else, to yourself, for example. OK?
I live in Canada, and recently I've been comparing a lot of Canadian and American media, and US propaganda is as bad (if not more) than the Nazi propaganda in Germany during WW2. CNN is by far the worse. In fact, most americans would be a hell of a lot smarter and less ignorant and better liked if they didn't watch american tv.
Well Golden you are right that medias in every country which at least want to be a "superpower"
are somehow biased but it does not mean that you should see it only from one side. Please listen again to those students they really sounds brainwashed. Regardless of my opinion of US or US role in the world it has no connection at all.
yes, you're right, and there is some propaganda in countries like Russia and China, and especially in russia cause there is probably still some influence from the ussr
Well it does not mean that you are not brainwashed by propaganda it is ok that you are a German, good for you. You are repeating a Russian lie about "more then 1000" killed. HRW claimed that it was "few tens", others source were talking about 200 Osetian killed during whole conflict (also during Russian actions). Russians don't let any independent organization to verify their own clam on the ground, are they afraid of of truth? Please not that recently they dont repeat that claim od 2000 deaths.
Perhaps you are right that recent round was started by Georgian, but it does not justify overreactions, vengeance, not respecting their own signed agreements,looting and stationing in the Georgia proper. We should expect and judge stronger side with more strict rules. By the way aggressor is not so obvious for years Russian government was keeping that conflict open for several years because it was in their own interest. I hope one day Russian will take them accountable about that wrong policy.
Please don't forget about around 250000 Georgian expelled from Abhazia when you are talking about who is the aggressor. More then the current population of that region!!!. Especially you should think about it when we talk about "independence" and own will of the people in that part of the world. I agree with you that situation is not black-white like it is presented in Russian or Georgian propaganda,I can understand Georgian or even Russian, but I cannot understand you who can think by your own.
Yes I believe your government policy was wrong for Russia. Recent news from today ... Finland is considering joining NATO. Everyday similar news similar growing isolation. I don't think it is in Russian interest to become isolated and Pariahs country. The reason is simple arogance and let say it openly ignorance of the outside world by your rulers.
what are telling?? have you ever been in georgia?? do you really know what the fuck is going on?? do you really think russia was doing peacekeeping all these 17 years?? or its just point of russian oil??
While I regard both Russia and Georgia as being at fault, I'll admit as a westerner that the media DID seem to be pro-Georgian and made Russia out to be the aggressor even though Georgia attacked first. I've got nothing against either people but the Georgian President was an idiot to have his armed forces attack Russia, it's never a good idea to do that as history has shown.
girlgarde 3 months ago
This people are under russia's propaganda TOTALY !
Gigagamer74 9 months ago
Все так лассно говорят по английски... Сколько учились?
Vampirro1975 1 year ago
@Vampirro1975 не все, парень и блондинка соображают, остальные нубят
bratttn 7 months ago
Look, all I know is that there is corruption everywhere; and we're the targets. We know that there is corruption in the Georgian government. It's obvious. We also know that there is some corruption in Russia's government. More importanly, we also know that there is major corruption here at home in America; more corruption than the rest of the world.
The solution? Start placing more trust in your fellow human beings and less trust into politics. Politics are only little games, not real life.
OpsmanONE 1 year ago
that kid illia at 3:10 made the most clear and best comment
RUSSIAmiami 1 year ago
I wouldn't trust a ruskie as far as I could throw him.
OzzyFan87 1 year ago
@OzzyFan87
well start to listen because we can actually fly. ;)
bittemeinrammstein 1 year ago
@bittemeinrammstein That must be by Russians are always in flocks.
OzzyFan87 1 year ago
Hey guys, you are so unscrupulous and dishonest! It is really big stupidity, foolishness to speak about how ugly is Mr. Saakashvili and not to speak about your fuckin Russian Lilliputian presindetPutin. War started Russian federation, when they bombed every day the peaceful civilians in Georgian villages. And very soon, we will have time, when this monster, called russian federation will be destroyed and your fuckin oil and gas will be over.
Zeskvi 1 year ago
Hey guys, you are so unscrupulous and dishonest! It is really big stupidity, foolishness to speak about how ugly is Mr. Saakashvili and not to speak about your fuckin Russian Lilliputian presindetPutin. War started Russian federation, when they bombed every day the peaceful civilians in Georgian villages. And very soon, we will have time, when this monster, called russian federation will be destroyed and your fuckin oil and gas will be over.
Zeskvi 1 year ago
Julia is hot!
browneyes4 1 year ago
The problem seems to be that while the USA is continuing to spread its routine anti-russian/Latin America/Middle East provocations,neither of those places are adequate enough to counter it seeing as they are politically and socially messed up enough-and while most Russian students keep getting wasted and paying for their degrees,while the best they can reply is something 'a little stupid' or angry, if not extremely so as is the case most often. "smb hurt smb" is as far as it ever gets. you know?
bcdc2434 2 years ago
USA and Georgia both employ propaganda. You can tell that these kids are indoctrinated but so are the American people. The indoctrinated young are brainwashed to be pawns in the chessboard game of greedy rich aristocrats.
Lionheartx675 2 years ago 3
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Remember the hostages of te Moscow theatre who all died? Remember the FSB false-flag house bombing action, to create a premise for Chechen war? Remember Holodomor? Remember the repressed who died in Gulag and other labour camps? Or that pointless war in Afganistan?
Russia's government hates and despises people. I don't care what they say to fool us, because only what they DO and DID is relevant
casperado666 2 years ago
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A war of Russia against Georgia was just a chance to use military force (and only if your army is at the state of war you get a chance to develop and use new kinds of weaponry to the full extent), to make russians believe they live in a powerful state, to destabilize Georgia (a potential NATO member).
Russia, as any other wanna-be empire (like US or China), never cared about human lives.
casperado666 2 years ago
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Russia cares about S.Ossetian people??? hahahahahaha yeah right.
They don't even care about their own - -look at all the prostitution, drug abuse, child pornography, alcoholism, all the homeless and unemployed etc. This is a genocide of Russian government agains their own citizens, and they dare to say that they invaded S.Ossetia because they cared about that people????
Bullshit.
casperado666 2 years ago
You will rape russia? give me a break
there are enough of these nationalistic moron countries like serbia
go eat your rats and be happy you didnt get your nose punched in
Darusdei 2 years ago
lol sorry i am just saying i have seen lots of russian women and a good majority of them seem to be very attractive
ryler05 2 years ago
russian women are so hott
ryler05 3 years ago 2
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Don't trust Russian women. They use pussy to get ahead and then turn cold on you. I'm married to a Russian. My mom is married to a Russian. Russia is the cancer of the world.
Reverseflush 2 years ago
Good then tell your friends to stop setting up bases around them and leave them alone. You must avoid cancer... so leave Russians the fuck alone and get on with your life....
wawa779 2 years ago 3
but damn there fine i'll let them use me
ryler05 2 years ago
I must say that The average female russian has a higher IQ than the average female American..
ChristinaLaRosa18 3 years ago 12
Paatiko а ты своих студенток покажи...................че нокого показывать все с лопатами бушевская хуесоска
ib1sth 3 years ago 3
В Грузии студентов от студенток не отличить - все черные и с усами!
ssdoll1 3 years ago 11
da oni nasosali i najralis gamburgerov i v teple sidiat i pizdiat :D
russki student
eto exkriment!!!
voi333vod 3 years ago
Fucking Georgian and American Gouverment!
Gstyle1 3 years ago 6
In fact, everyone born in Moscow - except me - needs to be targeted by Javelins. We must rid this world of the Russians to advance freedom and democracy. From Mikhail Fradkov to Maria Sharapova, they must all be put to the Javelin.
Except Khodorkovsky and Felgenhauer. They love freedom.
Read my LA Times article:
latimes-com/news/opinion/la-oe-boot12-2008aug12,0,2132727.story
Check out my friend Kim Zigfeld's work (she wants Maria Sharapova dead):
larussophobe-wordpress-com
ChickenhawkMaxBoot 3 years ago
Wow real solid evidance you have an article on LA TIMES. WE ALL MUST BELIEVE YOU OR ELSE RIGHT? Have you been to russia lately? Most of it's population is well educated and yet someone like you wants to annihilate and entire city with javelins which is more than 12 million people. Wow gj that will set a new world record.
whosfirat 3 years ago
You must be a paid agent of the Putin regime. Another KGB shill designed to fool us.
It won't work.
ChickenhawkMaxBoot 3 years ago
My friends, don't be fooled. I am Max Boot from the Council on Foreign Relations and believe me, these people are agents of the Putin regime and the Red Army intent on crushing human rights and press freedoms. Every single one of them and their entire families need to be destroyed by Javelins.
ChickenhawkMaxBoot 3 years ago
Goddamn, lot of fatties at Moscow universities.
Coyu3 3 years ago
Well said. Our Media fucked things up and made it sound like "Russia was attacking Georgia" when in all reality it's just another "N.Korea vs S.Korea" scenario. And again it's America who is trying to be the Big Dog and Stand up to Russia when Russia hasn't done anything wrong... I think both Bush and Sakashvilli are terrorists and need to be hung on a lamp post so the rest of the world can move on with their lives.
Bulletproof122 3 years ago
I like what the last lady has to say.
dibblydooda 3 years ago
I am an American and I witness the U.S. media bias and propaganda on a daily basis. I think at least 80% of this country is so brainwashed they can not even think for themselves. Very sad indeed.
popination 3 years ago 4
KGB WORKING HARD :)
sashokd 3 years ago
Corporate media vomits without question whatever the RNC/DNC DC Mafia crime families wants the sheeple to hear. It's the beginning of the end.
Govtflu 3 years ago
Правильные слова. И правильная позиция. Правду нужно показывать и рассказывать о ней.
sergeylost 3 years ago
I should repeat again :-)
It is good that people express their opinion, but on other hand it is sad to see how one sided and well conditioned by their own propaganda are those young Russians. Sad for future of Russia. I hope it will change.
antysmok 3 years ago
antysmok
Are you kidding me? There are two sided vision of conflict in Russia! Because of it all know, that western media lie about conflict.
When Georgian Army began bombing of Chinvalli, all media IGNORED IT.
But when Russian troops enter S.Ossetia to protect civillians, then all media said "ALARM! RUSSIA INVADES GEROGIA"
WTF?
IT IS NOT RUSSIA "PROPOGANDA", IT's WESTERN PROPOGANDA! WE ALL CLEVER AND ADEQUATE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT!
igorvasilevsky 3 years ago 3
Well obviously there is a Russian propaganda and what despise me in it it is amount of hate it contain. Citing the bible "By their fruit you will recognize them". Looking to all this hate messages wrote by those stupid fagot: "Ukraine will be next in few months", "our armies will destroy western Europe"... (sorry one with bad words I simply ignore .. anyway who cares about them except authors) Russian propaganda is simply dangerous.
antysmok 3 years ago
i would say western propaganda is even more dangerous. what would you like russians to do? to hush up evrybody who says the thing you mentioned? is it democratic way ?they are anyway in great minority. you better watch some videos about russians put on youtube by some georgian thugs. then come back and say your opinion.
mikkitiny 3 years ago
well I think responsibility of stronger side is much higher then the weak one. So it is you as a Russian who are responsible of the situation there. I guess one of the best description of your current way of thinking is giving encyclopediadramatica :"They also ignore that even though most of the world hate each other, they agree Russia is a pretty fucked up place. Watch them just continue calling everything that makes them look bad "AMERICAN PROPOGANDA"
please think about it
antysmok 3 years ago
lol. i just happened to know very well western propaganda ( or press-media if you wish). so take the citation *pretty fucked up* somewhere else, to yourself, for example. OK?
mikkitiny 3 years ago
I live in Canada, and recently I've been comparing a lot of Canadian and American media, and US propaganda is as bad (if not more) than the Nazi propaganda in Germany during WW2. CNN is by far the worse. In fact, most americans would be a hell of a lot smarter and less ignorant and better liked if they didn't watch american tv.
goldenchocolate 3 years ago
Well Golden you are right that medias in every country which at least want to be a "superpower"
are somehow biased but it does not mean that you should see it only from one side. Please listen again to those students they really sounds brainwashed. Regardless of my opinion of US or US role in the world it has no connection at all.
antysmok 3 years ago 3
yes, you're right, and there is some propaganda in countries like Russia and China, and especially in russia cause there is probably still some influence from the ussr
goldenchocolate 3 years ago
Sorry I am German, and I´m not brainwashed.
I´m 46 years old.
Don´t only look on CNN, also see russiatoday, and then start to think what´s true!!!
Georgia is the agressor, and this is no propaganda. Georgia attaked a hospital with rocket launchers and killed over 1000 people!
Don´t forget the territorial intergrity of Irak. How many people died there for oil?
horstww 3 years ago 3
Well it does not mean that you are not brainwashed by propaganda it is ok that you are a German, good for you. You are repeating a Russian lie about "more then 1000" killed. HRW claimed that it was "few tens", others source were talking about 200 Osetian killed during whole conflict (also during Russian actions). Russians don't let any independent organization to verify their own clam on the ground, are they afraid of of truth? Please not that recently they dont repeat that claim od 2000 deaths.
antysmok 3 years ago 3
Perhaps you are right that recent round was started by Georgian, but it does not justify overreactions, vengeance, not respecting their own signed agreements,looting and stationing in the Georgia proper. We should expect and judge stronger side with more strict rules. By the way aggressor is not so obvious for years Russian government was keeping that conflict open for several years because it was in their own interest. I hope one day Russian will take them accountable about that wrong policy.
antysmok 3 years ago 2
Please don't forget about around 250000 Georgian expelled from Abhazia when you are talking about who is the aggressor. More then the current population of that region!!!. Especially you should think about it when we talk about "independence" and own will of the people in that part of the world. I agree with you that situation is not black-white like it is presented in Russian or Georgian propaganda,I can understand Georgian or even Russian, but I cannot understand you who can think by your own.
antysmok 3 years ago 2
And for Russian ...
Yes I believe your government policy was wrong for Russia. Recent news from today ... Finland is considering joining NATO. Everyday similar news similar growing isolation. I don't think it is in Russian interest to become isolated and Pariahs country. The reason is simple arogance and let say it openly ignorance of the outside world by your rulers.
antysmok 3 years ago
what are telling?? have you ever been in georgia?? do you really know what the fuck is going on?? do you really think russia was doing peacekeeping all these 17 years?? or its just point of russian oil??
khecho 3 years ago