I hope you stick with God Brother, i think your a nice person, but i don't feel the freedom in other songs then in hymns and psalms I look at it this way was the holly spirit in it when it started, when it Begin did it pull allot of people away from god or bring people to god,
but i will not judge you on your part, if the lord leads on rock which i don't know if he dose, but if he dose then it is wright, but we need to test the spirit to See what the over all resold is, god bless,
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God Rom 12:2 the whole point of being Christian is to be separated from the worldly things, to not be conformed. christian rock is but a cheap imitation of secular rock.we need to be spiritually discerned..remember satan was the angel in charge of music before he was cast down. and therefore we must be extra careful wat we listen to..
alice cooper isnt satanic, he's a christian, his family is full of pastors, and he believes in jesus. i dont see how he is eveil when people say he is rock isnt evel, nor is raap its good
I understand you support Christian rap/rock because you listen to it yourself, if you cant justify it you will have to accept you are in sin. maybe some is OK, maybe its not OK at all, i guess im lucky i don't listen to that type of music.
But I can find videos saying it is NOT OK with good reasons, what makes theirs wrong and yours correct?
I think whether or not something is satanic has everything to do with the inspiration. If it inspired by Christ, it cannot be satanic. Surely there are some people who are in the Christian music industry to make money, but it's not about those individuals. It's about the effect and reach that this music has on people who may never otherwise listen to the gospel. Jesus said, if they're not against you, they're for you
Thanks man for straightening all this up for the people who think otherwise. I, to be honest, have been saved by the Christian rock band Skillet :P They've changed my life and have gotten me on the right track. I'd like to see someone call that satanic.
I'm ready for the hate, but who gives a fuck what you listen to? Jesus? If there is a God I think he would be a little more involved with saving humanity, or enlightening people rather than throwing you into hell for listening to 2pac, or Eminem....
If christian rock/rap are satanic so is christian country. If christian movies are satanic than the producers of fireproof, facing the giants and the grace card are all going to hell bc by that logic those who participate in those activities love the world and hate God right? Maybe they help ppl to think about their relationship with God and be challenged to either get saved or take their salvation seriously. Scripture says to think on whatever things are just, pure, praiseworthy and good report
@UtubeLeeOh This video deals specifically with music, different things can be portrayed in a movie, they tell stories, like parables, so that is something different from music. All 'Christian music' that is a copy of worldly music is wrong indeed.
your right bro. but check this out. if I were driving down the street bumping some christian metal. and someone from this world heard it wouldnt they think im evil or emo?when you if you were not in the gospel and you heard heavy metal?what did you think of ? people in heaven praising god?or some people dressed in black faces painted cutting themselves. think about it amen, god bless may god ediffy you.
@jangel2771 You're right also. The genre of music caters to the audience that listens to that particular music. Once again, it comes down to the lyrics and appearance. Let's put it like this, if I see a christian rap video, I should be able to mute the volume and see the difference in what the artists portray. Whether it has a secular look or a portrayal of being a changed person in Christ. Being in Christ means you have changed heart as well as a changed appearance.
@jangel2771 If you are driving down the street bumping your music, who's able to hear the lyrics in the first place as you "pass by" them? When you bump your music loud, all it appears to be is someone driving down the street with a booming stereo system. In other words, a secular appearance. A christian change involves an overall change. The way you look, the way you think, the way you carry yourself, etc. Who would want to hear a minister teaching God's word with pants hanging down low?
@jangel2771 If I heard any type of music and people were painting their faces and cutting themselves, christian music or not, that's definitely not presenting yourself as a christian. And it's definitely not presenting your body as a temple of God. Besides, heavy metal is a topic I don't even want to touch. I know nothing about the music and not interested in hearing it let alone discussing it.
@jangel2771 But anyway, I'm not trying to defend myself or anyone else. I know where I stand when it comes to God and His word. This is my last posting and thank everyone for discussing this topic. God bless you all.
@tawnygirlwk37 Rap is a gift just as singing is. You have those that think they can rap and just throw words that rhyme together. Then you have those that are considered lyricists. Lyricists have a gift. A gift that can and has been used for ministering. To minister God's word. Transforming and renewing of the mind doesn't mean that I'm supposed to or should stop rapping. Once I've been transformed and mind renewed, then my gift should be used for work in God's kingdom.
@tawnygirlwk37 I've done secular rap for years. No gangsta lyrics, no profanity, no degrading anyone, but keeping it clean. Rap itself is not the problem. Once again it's the content of the lyrics. Don't stop at verse 2. It says more in chapter 12. Verse 6 says Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith; verse 7 or ministry, let us use it in our ministering; he who teaches, in teaching.
@tawnygirlwk37 I think I spent more time on this than I intended to. You shouldn't condemn an art form of music because of what some have done to the art form. My aim is to be the difference. Making a difference in the eyes of the youth as well as adults. A good minister will give you the scripture, the message from the scripture, but also encourage you to study it for yourself and not just go on what he says. Don't condemn what God can use as a tool for ministering.
@tawnygirlwk37 Rap is a part of Hip hop culture. I'm starting a youth christian rap ministry which will teach the youth the history of rap, the different styles of rap, what it's evolved into today, and using rap to minister God's word. To also teach them to listen to lyrics first to know what you're actually listening to. Our purpose is to win souls to Christ. I totally agree that there is bad music out there. But for every negative, there's a positive.
@tawnygirlwk37 A sinful act does not make a person any less of a christian. Rap has a very large youth following. For years, some rap artists have used their rap lyrics to make people aware of what's going on in America as well as in the world. Which also includes attacking rap lyrics that promote drugs, violence, and sex. Why can't the same art form of music be used to minister God's word? Hip hop never meant shake your booty. Hip hop is not a part of rap.
@tawnygirlwk37 The bible does not say that sinners couldn't be saved. Nor does the bible state that different forms of music can't be used to edify others about God and praise God. A sinful thought is just as bad as physically committing the sin. Rock music and Rap music does not constitute it being evil. The content of the lyrics is what sets the standard. If you truly believe in God, does that make everyone that spreads the gospel a hypocrite? Because we all sin.
@tawnygirlwk37 Rock n Roll is a musical art form. Rap is a musical art form. Gospel music is a musical art form. It all falls under the "music" category. Now, what you do with the music is what determines if it's bad or not. Every man and woman is born with a sin nature through Adam's act of disobedience, which is the reason Jesus sacrificed himself so that we may obtain salvation. Whether you're a christian or not, the bible doesn't say that we wouldn't sin after Jesus' crucifixion.
Congrats on your rebirth. To all of you saying "You wrong! Rock and rap are evil!" First off read Psalms 33:3. If it's praise to God or lessons on a Christian lifestyle, then you are saying God is wrong. The Holy Bible NEVER discourages loud worship. You tell people what is wrong with them because they enjoy different Christian music? If it's all about worship and gives glory to God, it isn't evil. But i KNOW satan would LOVE to stop any form of worship to God, so who are you working for?
@tawnygirlwk37 word meanings have changed over the years. for example b***h. it used to mean a female dog and wasn't a swear word but now it means whore and it is a vulgar swear word.
Jesus said it very clear: "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad." - He says, if the music is made for Jesus, or to gather people around Jesus, it's okay. If it's not... Well then it's not.
May Jesus Christ of Nazareth save all of you hypocrite Christians who promote Rock music in the church. The very term "Rock N Roll" comes from the act of having sex in the back of a car during the 1950's. And you promote this? "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil. May Jesus save your blind souls!!!!!
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things. Philippians 4:8-9
A lot of people dont agree withe the christian rap and rock. They feel we sutppose 2 listen 2 the traditional music, but i've heard of traditional gospel artists commiting adultry and drinking alcohol as well as some christian rap and rock artists today. I feel no matter what genre of christian music we perform of listen 2 pray over it 1st and make sure its glorifying God 2 da fullest. I love christian rap but some artists I dont agree with, because the message isnt strong enough.
@JCLIFF7 n2m the so-called traditional music is all from the 1800's. Check the copyrights in the hymn books. That was all new back then. Did they say it was evil then?
@globalchaos1984 Maybe not "Bullshit" but definitely not a good thing! Jesus came down to earth to DESTROY religion. He didn't like Religion, instead he wanted people to have a personal relationship with his father. This is called "Faith"! And do you know who crucified him? The Religious freaks who called themselves "holy"!
@qwecars Don't delude yourself, Christianity is a religion just like any other. Its funny to me as an agnostic cause every religious person thinks their religion is somehow unique.
@globalchaos1984 It's actually funny to me as an ex-Atheist and a new-born Christian to see Atheists trying to include Christianity into the "Religion" category just to make it easier for them to tackle Christianity. You know, if Christianity is a religion, than so is Atheism. Both are a system of beliefs either way, so if you're going to take that route, you may as well call yourself "Religious"!
@qwecars ...you must have some type of reading impediment, I said I was an agnostic, which means I do not believe anything that cannot be proven with logic. I can not prove or disprove any mythical being (ex jesus, allah, vishnu, thor, tooth fairy, santa claus ect)
Faith=belief without proof
I do not know why I am even trying to explain something this simple to a person who has given up on rational thought.
@globalchaos1984 I'm sorry I misread your other comment! I have many other comments so I read fast & type fast & sometimes I make mistakes.
I have no problem with agnosticism because it is very well "logical". But the fact that you stated "Religion is bullshit" shows that you completely throw away any reason of a doubt of there being any truth to it. Which actually goes against "agnosticism" because agnosticism only states that Religion cannot be "proven".
@qwecars WRONG...again, organized religion is parading around stating that they know the ultimate answer and the only proof behind the claims are 2000+ fairy tales and folklore. So I would stand by that statement that those people are full of shit.
@globalchaos1984 Than you're just not agnostic, you are an atheist! You should really do your research before you go around telling people what you are without even knowing what it means! Agnosticism never states that any form of belief is "Bullshit" it says that Religion just can't be proven or disproved so there will always be a reason of a doubt both ways, God or no God!
@qwecars ...I CALLED SOMEONE WHO THOUGHT THEY DEFINITELY KNEW THE ANSWER FULL OF SHIT, BECAUSE I SAID THERE ISN'T ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO DEFINITELY STATE EITHER WAY! ...its like I'm talking to a child.
Your exact words were "RELIGION IS BULLSHIT!" I'm sorry for not noticing that you were calling "SOMEONE WHO THOUGHT THEY DEFINITELY KNEW THE ANSWER, full of shit!!!!"
If you had a kid and tell him to take out the trash and he says :no. Then you said.if you do it. ill give you a candy.and he says:ok ill do it... you see know days people dont go to rock concerts or rap concerts to praise Jesus.they go because they get what they want.because they dont even say the word jesus in their songs know days.their artist dress like any other artist out there.tatoos.earings,and what ever else they got.you see the gospel is not about been cool.or lookin cool.
i praise God that u r saved - i believe that our God is so big and wonderful that even if there was no christian rap or rock He would have found another way to reach out to you!let us not limit God! The angels in heaven according to revelation kneel down, cover their faces and cry holy holy holy and i believe it is not to a rock beat or a rap beat ,worship is about the worshiper not the one worshipping and if the sinless angels worship God in this way who am i to worship God in a worldly fashion
People have a misconception of good and evil. Especially when it comes to God's standard of it. The perception of man is distorted by nature. Case in point the devil quoted scripture. Eventhough God's word is true in his mouth it was a lie and evil. Rap can't be seperated from it's secular counter part also the same as rock. It's like trying to divorce your parents. Christian Rap is spawned from Hip-Hop which is not of God and Rock the same.
...false teachings. Furthermore, the verse you quoted has NOTHING to do with this issue, if anything it would disprove your point...and well anyways thats about all I got to say on the subject except that I think its sad that you can just "come to the conclusion" instead of going to the word, which says not to love the things of the world. (1 Corinthians 2:14)
Cont. (Ran out of room)... I Don't believe God goes against Himself, I did'nt just wake up one day and say "hey I think Ill be anti- rock and rap that sounds like fun!" No, it was a decision to give up the music after HEAVY conviction by the Holy Ghost...I can't believe a God that would convict a person about what they are listening to can USE it to HELP another person...its all emotion. Its sad the church is emersed in so many cultural lies. I too once went to youth events and believed these...
Who says its "satanic"? now days it seems like christian culture teaches that aside from satan there is nol sin. Satan does not however cause us to sin. We sin ourselves. (1 John 2:15-17). Rap and rock music is worldy, not even you can HONESTLY say its not.
Secondly, You were saved THROUGH the music? if you were saved "THROUGH" the music rather than through Christ, what happens to your salvation when the music is no longer there???
@Hymns4ThePilgrims ok so most things in this world are worldly. do u drive a car? does it say in the bible u can drive cars? no it doesnt. to say that God can not use metal/rock/rap is stupid. God can do anything. people make things evil. r there not corrupt churches? did christ create this no way. it was people and certain people make rock/rap bad. its not demonic. the band for today has prayed over a crippled man at a show and he was HEALED! and this was from a christian metal band
@Hymns4ThePilgrims@Hymns4ThePilgrims i agree with you.Many of the people are blinded by the beats and so called styles the music brings with it. As graysoulja said he thought it was "kool".Its a way for people to listen to worldy styles of music without feeling guilty.The bible says righteousness and unrighteousness can not be yoke.The music sounds worldly for a reason and many of the artist of christian rock& rap are still living worldly with drugs,alcohol& sex.
Rappers like ambassador and few others been exposed for commiting adultry while still putting out their music. The music is of satanic orgin all of it is.Its hard to enjoy music after studying the occult ;how it has large influance on music and how only 4 large music companies control world music Really listen 2 lyrics people dont just follow trends do your research dont just listen 2 wat some1 tells. Exou15:2 ..the lord is my song.Let his words be our song beats every kind of music out there!
@TheLordsLoveIs4ever Okay, 1. We all make mistakes, that's what makes us human & not Gods! And 2. The record company that Ambassador was signed to, immediately dropped him from their label and wrote a letter to all the fans explaining what happened and asking to pray for him. They said that this type of behavior was not acceptable from their artists!
NOT EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD IS SATANIC!!! You guys need to chill out and quit crying about every little thing in this world!
I keep hearing people say the same thing about 'christian' CCM (rap, rock, etc) that they were 'saved' through this music, if this music saved someone, that person is still going to Hell, why do I say this? For it is by grace that you have been saved, through faith!!!! Get it straight! Christ said, no one cometh to the Father, but by ME! Not by rap, not by rock, not by any music, it is by Christ alone, that we are saved!
@PalabraVivaEficaz They didn't mean that the music itself saved them..the music brought them to have faith in Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit which saved them
@nwpspwns That is not what he, and many others say, there is a difference between the music saved someone, and the music led someone to God who saved them.
I must tell you that it is totally demonic. It is specially designed to trick you and tear you away from God. Please research John Todd and the Illuminati. Read Romans 12:2 We must be transformed from the word. I am saved as well and I want to make it to heaven and you too. May God Be With You.
Amen brother, I completely agree with everything in this video. Christian rap and rock is a great way to reach out to people that couldn't be reached through traditional methods. Keep up the good work bro.
@MrWolfman29 The 'traditional' method you are referring to is to 'go and make disciples of all nations'? 'Preach the Gospel to the whole creation'? Those are biblical methods, the methods that Jesus taught, Christian music is for the believer, not for the unbeliever.
Ya I look at it like this if it was made to glorify GOD'S name and not urself it ok to listen to. Me and a couple of my friends actualy made a christian rap group call D.O.G ( Diciples of GOD) and when we perform were not performing for the fans, I said at the end of one of my verses "were doing this for GOD were not doing this for fans". One more thing when u said the Ambassador did u mean Ambassador Lee and the Christian Brothers?
I look at it like this. Satan is everywhere, he's in the 'church building', he's as school, he's in rock, he's everywhere a sinner is. The only place, that has no place for satan, is in the Lord. I've heard some rap lines in christian music, that really hit me like, wow, that's definitly the devil, and in the same song, was like, yeah, that's definitly the word of God. I find, satan, and God speaking are spiritual happenings, and it's deeper than just a style of music.
so trueeee u totally right and i mean people can sing gospel and curse god.. would it still be holy ????? OF COURSE NOT same thing with christian rap or rock as long as the lyrics are rightious and pure thats all it matter
You are in error sir. There is no such thing as christian rock or rap. God is not contemporary. In other words , if the gospel does'nt sound like anything else, the gospel music does'nt sound like anything else. God does'nt use rap , and he does'nt use rock. Psalms , spirtual songs , they that worship him, must worship him in spirit and in truth. You are leaning to your own understaning , instead of follwing the holy spirit. Paul ssaid I'm " plain of speech" he was not a rapper, nor was Jesus.
(22) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
(23) gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
OK. God gave us music, mans sin corrupted it. God said that there is now no law against love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. So no law against legit Christian Rap... AKA Lecrae, 116, Ambassador and the such....God Bless
(1) Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things.
The bible says clearly be ye in the world not of the world, we are to be set apart. How can we minister to those that need God if they can't see God in us.
at the end of the day we shouldn't settle ... why do we have to blend into the world were suppose to be the light set upon the hill top not hidden under a basel
good and evil are perspectives. thats the intelligent deduction. everything is god's will is the cop out for the coward afraid to learn the real truth. afraid to learn he's all alone. this universe is too vast, theres no plausible reason to think god exists other than self deceit.
who are we to decide ??? are you that taken in by Satan to question another persons wisdom on roght and wrong ?? All you have to do is listen to the words to know.Listen to illuminati rappers etc.They in plain site bost the evil that posses's them to make those songs.Beyonce says she gets possesed by Sasha Fierce,a demon shje would not even like if she met on the streets or !,Her Husband Jay Z has a demon named Jayhova.Check it all out,they are all possesed admitingly,Eminem/slim shady and on
If Jesus is not the one who sits on the throne than this means that God has a body. If so, than he has arms, also, legs, head, and a mouth. So than, realistically speaking this would mean that God himself would bend his knee and confess Jesus is Lord, unless of course he's excluded of the scripture.
Well, he was sent from God, or Begotten I should say but he was also Made of a woman according to Galations 4:4. So how can you justify his flesh (organism) to be eternal?
From Genesis to Revelation God has and will always be ONE. You should be happy for me. I would never break the first and foremost of the rules of Monotheism that "Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One" - So I feel sorry for you, friend. God would never have to replicate himself as a Smaller god. Jesus Was God wrapped in Flesh. He was the Savior. Tell me this, Does God have an Arm?
Jesus, God Same thing!!!! Three in one means ONE!!!!! God has many names!!!! Jesus is the Lord, the true God Almighty!!!! God became flesh, and He came to die for our sins, and to rise on the third day, and that we might have everlasting life with Him!!!
The "Word" is not the "Father". Please try again, and showing himself in flsh does not mean the "Father" was flesh. He can show Himself through me or you for that matter. Anything else in proper context?
No sir, wrong. If we're counting persons, than that makes more than one Spirit within you according to the thought of the trinity. This promotes "Co-Existence" which defies the saying and declarations of the God of the Old Testament. He said "Beside me there is NONe" -In my oneness thought, I know that the Spirit of Christ IS the Spirit of God. God is a Spirit, who is Holy, thus this makes the Spirit of Christ the Holy Spirit, or Holy Ghost! Man, I love this doctrine of Oneness.
So, my question once again is this, "Which Spirit do you have dwelling within you?"
If Paul was not referring to Only ONE God, but rather 2 spirits... we're in trouble. 'Cause none of our belief systems stem in this direction. But I am a Oneness Believer. I believe Jesus Christ is that ONE God fully.
It seems to be the case in point that in Romans 8, Paul was speaking in reference to NO Person but rather Spirit. But I find it contradicting your doctrine in that Jesus is a person. If so, than Paul is wrong. He goes to say "9-But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10-And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness."
You trinity believers like to try and interpret what "the bible is really saying" - When Jesus resurrected he became the Fullness of God. He took his place as the one on the throne. Jesus Christ is God fully. He is the Father, He is the Son, and He is the Spirit. Let me ask you this, what Spirit do you have? God's Spirit, Jesus' Spirit, or the Holy Spirit?
First of all, God does not apply the Word Deity to himself. Secondly, you answered incorrect. According to the scripture in Colossians 2:9 "For IN him dwelleth all the FULLNESS of the Godhead bodily" - Therefor making the Godhead exist within Jesus Christ. I would encourage you to study this before digging a bigger hole for yourself when speaking of who God actually is.
How are you dressed? Do you where jeans? How about shorts? Do you where hats? How about tank tops? Do you where sneakers? If so by your standard of this young man you are dressing worldly! There is nothing wrong with the way this man is dressed, period!
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yo yo yo. to 'rock n roll' means to fornicate. maybe your god is ok w/ fornicating music, but my God is not. good luck explaining this to my God on Judgement Day 1Jn 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
First of All like I said a Christian cannot be SAVED and born again if the music were to be Satanic! yes the Orgin of the word "Rock and roll may be evil but never the less thats NOT what Christians are trying to do! Rock and roll can EXIST without having fornicating lyrics!
the lyrics are bad but it's the BEAT, the rock 'n roll BACK BEAT, that is what makes it evil. coming from the pagan occultic african drums. you are caught is something that apostate american Christianity says is ok.
If The LORD has made all things he has made music right? Any and ALL things God has made is in fact Good and is able to be used to Glorify Him INCLUDING MUSIC!
Romans 12:1-2
22 When I am with those who are weak, I share their weakness, for I want to bring the weak to Christ. Yes, I try to find common ground with everyone, doing everything I can to save some.
How can we relate to those of the World if we do not find common Ground
then Explain to me the context of the Scripture tell me how to exegete it!
Prostitution is NOT in no way honoring to God in anyway! It cannot exist without it dishonoring God, while Music CAN exist without Honoring God! Hymns were sung in the bible and deemed acceptable correct? well it uses instruments created by un-believers and those same instruments are used in secular music thus you shouldn't listen to them right? wrong! thats not the scriptures thats confusion
By the way you CAN relate to a prostitute... shes a sinner just as everyone else' is! Like I said in the video how can people become Saved if this music is Un-Godly? its not possible! how can a Christian GROW because of the music if its of the Devil!? Without the Music I listen to I admit I would not be as spiritually Buff as I am Now! explain to me why Satan would try to make his people Come to God! it doesn't even make sense
intercourse is of God, IF it's done in its proper place---marriage. but it's wrong if it's outside of marriage. music has it's place if it's not like the world's music and is comformable to His standards. but music becomes a vehicle of satan, even in the church, if it doesnt meet His standards. come out of the world and its music.
actually "relating" to a hooker would be testifying to her while she was in the streets in her common ground... this would not include not taking her home (why people always trying to be funny)... you took my man's comment WAAAY out of context... you're a victim to your own ignorance...
filolll To me you saying that sounds like saying "prayer in a deep voice is only prayer to the devil". No its not drums are drums voice and pitch are just sounds. The words you say to and about God is the part thet matters. People view music as a satanic thing becouse of its history and not its lyrics. (my bibles cover is black paint but the word inside is the same as my preachers and the rest of my towns biles, is it evil for bing a bible of a dark color?)
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music in and of itself is not evil in fact music was born in heaven and man has used it as a tool of expression and thus if that person is èvil`then so is the message if that person is `rightous`then so is the message
yo this is why THE CHURCH does a terrible job at "Relating" to the people now-a-days. I mean ppl callin CCM satanic? like wow its hard enough walkin the walkin in a world that we live in. And like we have Pastor/Rappers and ppl still wanna hate.... Its a shame
just b4 the age of elvis the church belived that rock'n'roll where evil (drums where evil)
in a way the moderen death music come from that
but who wants to goto the night club and listen to the flute...alot of good music comes from people standing up to the church baning free music(free will) so i get confused with religien because they say the name of the devil"rebel"is evil...but its not good to stand up for what ya beleive in ie good music..but they try to force people to worshop god/pay fees
yes i have read the bible and unlike the bible i was quoteing historic fact ie church trying to ban elvis for rock n roll music...in the middle ages they would burn people for not paying fees...the church are constantly changeing the story witch is against jesus saying have a strong foundation on rocks rather than sand...and so cause the bible changes constantly how can it be true?
ps i only think music saying to worshop the devil is satanic...christian rock is christian...
sorry for the miss understanding in the last message but i am the oversser of the group and rebel is seen as evil in the eyes of the world but rebel means few standing for what the many others dont
and God wants you to giving and worship him out of your joy in him. The chief end of man is to glorify God by enjoying Him forever. reading psalms36:8 is a way to see God for us and evil is to look at that and say i dont want it God and to eat dirt when sitting in a hot dry land without drinking for days and saying i am not thristy and this brings my delight
n 1 Corinthians, Paul warns Christians against becoming isolated from the world.
"When I am with those who are weak, I share their weakness, for I want to bring the weak to Christ. Yes, I try to find common ground with everyone, doing everything I can to save some." - 1 Cor. 9:22 (NLT II)
We are supposed to seperate ourselves from the evil and sin of the world, not the world itself. If people can get saved through Christian rap, rock, pop, etc., how can it be evil?
In 1 Corinthians, Paul warns Christians against becoming isolated from the world.
"When I am with those who are weak, I share their weakness, for I want to bring the weak to Christ. Yes, I try to find common ground with everyone, doing everything I can to save some." - 1 Cor. 9:22 (NLT II)
We are supposed to seperate ourselves from the evil and sin of the world, not the world itself. If people can get saved through Christian rap, rock, pop, etc., how can it be evil?
Nice try. But in a book before that in Romans the 12 chapter verse 1 and 2 if you would take the time to read it you'd see that we're to present our bodies a holy and acceptable sacrifice because it's our reasonable duties than it says that we're to be no conformed to the world. Do me a favor and look up the word 'Conformed'
I made a list of Holy things, and Christian Rap is right dead center at the top. Good job man LOL
Paul also wrote Romans 1:32 though they know God's decree that those who practice such thing deserve to die even those that give approval to those who practice them,
the thing about it is doesn't sound like the world. Even people in the world acknoowledge that this is christian music. The words are what really count. If you talk about sinning then yes it's evil but if you are glorifying GOD then how can it be evil?
How is listening to Christian music conforming to the world? The world listens to secular music. You keep using the same verse yet you don't even know what it means! Try reading these verses:
Hey dude... You know this for a fact, Music has a way on influencing people into a trend. i.e. The guy in the video is wearing his cap to the side, I would love to see what the Apostles would think of our current generation. Music has an influence on this guy, his speech is horrible, look at the way he dresses and what he's trying to prove. Nothing proclaiming godliness.
It seems to me that your own opinions are more important to you than what the Bible says. So he wears his hat sideways. IT MEANS NOTHING! Also, do you make fun of everyone who has a limited vocabulary? If you do, that's considered judgmental and you know what God thinks about that. If you actually step outside your little comfort zone, and look at the Truth, you'll find that all Christian music that has a true Christian message pleases God. So stop condemning because that's not your job.
bro, i'll tell you right now... If I WAS gonna judge I'd say that he's wrong just for believing in a trinity first of all therefor making my judgement call on his "error" of the scripture. Second of all, you can't tell me that you can't reach the world without somewhat sounding like them. The World is reaching for truth, and looking to be better people. So stop calling it Christian Music.... it's straight up Rap, straight up Rock!
You just don't get it, do you? Your beliefs are NOT BIBLICAL. How many more verses do I have to give you before you realize that Christian music is Christian music and not satanic music. Christian rap is Christian music. Christian rock is Christian music. How can you honestly tell me that lyrics like "Declare the Lord is forever" (rap) and "I'll forever worship You" (rock) are not Christian. Pick up a Bible and actually get some facts (yes, facts - NOT OPINIONS). The world needs this.
Thank you for providing scripture. Getting it to be relevant is the next step. I agree, the world needs Jesus. Duh. But not everyone is willing to accept Him. So how do you get them to accept Him? With His message of salvation. And if they still won't accept Him because they won't listen to His message then you need to make the message that they can relate to. Music is just one of the many media used to spread the Good News of Jesus Christ. The Bible even says we need to relate. 1cor922
Listening to Christian music is not "childish" as you say. It's spiritual. Why do you keep saying, "The Bible also says this," "the Bible also says that," and keep pulling up these irrelevant passages. Why won't you just accept or at least respond to the scriptures I am giving you. It seems like you are avoiding them like they're right and you have no answer to them. Oh, wait, they ARE right. They're Scriptures!
I'm aware of that. Just look at my channel description. That doesn't have anything to do with Christian music. If you don't have any real arguments left, then just stop replying, because I know about these passages. I know what it takes to get saved, and I know which kind of Christian music is OK to listen to: all of it.
My outlook is not correct? It says it plain and simple in the Bible! You don't have to baptized to be saved. Let me refer you to Luke 23:39-43. Two criminals were crucified with Jesus. One of them mocked Jesus just as the other Jews had. But the other accepted Jesus as the Messiah, and trusted in Him without getting baptized. Yet still Jesus said to him, "I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise" (NLT). Baptism is not a salvation requirement. It is a public proclamation.
My friend, Jesus was the Word. Which was God's spoken Word. The testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of Prophecy. This utterly is explained within itself. Jesus was the redeemer, however, the man on the cross was under the Law. Seeing how it had been at the moment of the sacrifice, the Lamb being Christ (Atonement) Jesus was able to forgive him under the Law. Thus, he went to Paradise which was under the Law for the Saints of Old. He was under Grace yet, he was saved by the skin of his teeth.
I don't think so. You see, Jesus was tortured IMMENSELY more than the other two criminals. He had more open wounds on His body then skin. Therefore, He only lasted 3 hours on the Cross as the Bible says. However, since the criminals were in better shape than Jesus was, it's reasonable to believe that they lasted longer. Since Jesus released His spirit before dying, then technically, the criminal died in the era of the New Law. And since he was not baptized and still saved, it's not needed.
My friend, Jesus was the Christ. The Lamb for sinner's slain. but when I pointed out that he was the Word, I did not only mean the 'Logos' but also 'Re'ma' which is to be translated as "God's Creative" word. Meaning this, Jesus was able to speak it, and it would happen. It would be much easier to believe that all you have to do is believe and trust and be saved but that's not the case. You MUST be Born Againa of water and of Spirit -John 3:1-8
Ricky, I am not here to judge, I am no different than any other person. So do not turn this into judgement, use this as advice. God calls us to be servants, not dividers. First off, you can be baptized and still loose your salvation, so Baptize alone doesn't save, only Jesus Saves! water is a symbol of testimony of denying ourselves and accepting the Lord's suffering. God states everyone has different gifts, some will speak in tongues,some will be teachers, etc 1 Corinthians 12 "continued"
shring forever :)
heavygold 1 week ago
Right on. God Bless you brother!
smn3675 1 month ago
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I hope you stick with God Brother, i think your a nice person, but i don't feel the freedom in other songs then in hymns and psalms I look at it this way was the holly spirit in it when it started, when it Begin did it pull allot of people away from god or bring people to god,
but i will not judge you on your part, if the lord leads on rock which i don't know if he dose, but if he dose then it is wright, but we need to test the spirit to See what the over all resold is, god bless,
maxbird2003 2 months ago
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God Rom 12:2 the whole point of being Christian is to be separated from the worldly things, to not be conformed. christian rock is but a cheap imitation of secular rock.we need to be spiritually discerned..remember satan was the angel in charge of music before he was cast down. and therefore we must be extra careful wat we listen to..
joslynnjai 2 months ago
alice cooper isnt satanic, he's a christian, his family is full of pastors, and he believes in jesus. i dont see how he is eveil when people say he is rock isnt evel, nor is raap its good
Robotcam 3 months ago
I understand you support Christian rap/rock because you listen to it yourself, if you cant justify it you will have to accept you are in sin. maybe some is OK, maybe its not OK at all, i guess im lucky i don't listen to that type of music.
But I can find videos saying it is NOT OK with good reasons, what makes theirs wrong and yours correct?
XmastergsanX 3 months ago
Watch Lecrae exposed 2 then you will see the truth!
YungFaith099 5 months ago
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thanks ill give that a watch.
XmastergsanX 3 months ago
I REALLY hope God has more on his plate than what I listen to. I'm gonna go listen to slayer, watch MMA, drink and smoke. Deuces.
MrBTY 9 months ago
I think whether or not something is satanic has everything to do with the inspiration. If it inspired by Christ, it cannot be satanic. Surely there are some people who are in the Christian music industry to make money, but it's not about those individuals. It's about the effect and reach that this music has on people who may never otherwise listen to the gospel. Jesus said, if they're not against you, they're for you
tjthaxter 9 months ago
Thanks man for straightening all this up for the people who think otherwise. I, to be honest, have been saved by the Christian rock band Skillet :P They've changed my life and have gotten me on the right track. I'd like to see someone call that satanic.
XKevinSilvlerShardX 9 months ago
I'm ready for the hate, but who gives a fuck what you listen to? Jesus? If there is a God I think he would be a little more involved with saving humanity, or enlightening people rather than throwing you into hell for listening to 2pac, or Eminem....
Mazz1420 10 months ago
@tawnygirlwk37 AMEN
PalabraVivaEficaz 11 months ago
If christian rock/rap are satanic so is christian country. If christian movies are satanic than the producers of fireproof, facing the giants and the grace card are all going to hell bc by that logic those who participate in those activities love the world and hate God right? Maybe they help ppl to think about their relationship with God and be challenged to either get saved or take their salvation seriously. Scripture says to think on whatever things are just, pure, praiseworthy and good report
UtubeLeeOh 11 months ago
@UtubeLeeOh This video deals specifically with music, different things can be portrayed in a movie, they tell stories, like parables, so that is something different from music. All 'Christian music' that is a copy of worldly music is wrong indeed.
PalabraVivaEficaz 11 months ago
bro, i can def hear that you are the real deal. but remember, it wasnt the music that saved you. the Holy Spirit turned your heart, *using* the music.
Either way, I still agree with what you're saying, and I've always been a fan of Ambassador, despite his fall.
See you in heaven bro :)
djehron 1 year ago
your right bro. but check this out. if I were driving down the street bumping some christian metal. and someone from this world heard it wouldnt they think im evil or emo?when you if you were not in the gospel and you heard heavy metal?what did you think of ? people in heaven praising god?or some people dressed in black faces painted cutting themselves. think about it amen, god bless may god ediffy you.
jangel2771 1 year ago
@jangel2771 You're right also. The genre of music caters to the audience that listens to that particular music. Once again, it comes down to the lyrics and appearance. Let's put it like this, if I see a christian rap video, I should be able to mute the volume and see the difference in what the artists portray. Whether it has a secular look or a portrayal of being a changed person in Christ. Being in Christ means you have changed heart as well as a changed appearance.
RobJHam 1 year ago
@jangel2771 If you are driving down the street bumping your music, who's able to hear the lyrics in the first place as you "pass by" them? When you bump your music loud, all it appears to be is someone driving down the street with a booming stereo system. In other words, a secular appearance. A christian change involves an overall change. The way you look, the way you think, the way you carry yourself, etc. Who would want to hear a minister teaching God's word with pants hanging down low?
RobJHam 1 year ago
@jangel2771 If I heard any type of music and people were painting their faces and cutting themselves, christian music or not, that's definitely not presenting yourself as a christian. And it's definitely not presenting your body as a temple of God. Besides, heavy metal is a topic I don't even want to touch. I know nothing about the music and not interested in hearing it let alone discussing it.
RobJHam 1 year ago
@jangel2771 But anyway, I'm not trying to defend myself or anyone else. I know where I stand when it comes to God and His word. This is my last posting and thank everyone for discussing this topic. God bless you all.
RobJHam 1 year ago
@tawnygirlwk37 Rap is a gift just as singing is. You have those that think they can rap and just throw words that rhyme together. Then you have those that are considered lyricists. Lyricists have a gift. A gift that can and has been used for ministering. To minister God's word. Transforming and renewing of the mind doesn't mean that I'm supposed to or should stop rapping. Once I've been transformed and mind renewed, then my gift should be used for work in God's kingdom.
RobJHam 1 year ago
@tawnygirlwk37 I've done secular rap for years. No gangsta lyrics, no profanity, no degrading anyone, but keeping it clean. Rap itself is not the problem. Once again it's the content of the lyrics. Don't stop at verse 2. It says more in chapter 12. Verse 6 says Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith; verse 7 or ministry, let us use it in our ministering; he who teaches, in teaching.
RobJHam 1 year ago
@tawnygirlwk37 I think I spent more time on this than I intended to. You shouldn't condemn an art form of music because of what some have done to the art form. My aim is to be the difference. Making a difference in the eyes of the youth as well as adults. A good minister will give you the scripture, the message from the scripture, but also encourage you to study it for yourself and not just go on what he says. Don't condemn what God can use as a tool for ministering.
RobJHam 1 year ago
@tawnygirlwk37 Rap is a part of Hip hop culture. I'm starting a youth christian rap ministry which will teach the youth the history of rap, the different styles of rap, what it's evolved into today, and using rap to minister God's word. To also teach them to listen to lyrics first to know what you're actually listening to. Our purpose is to win souls to Christ. I totally agree that there is bad music out there. But for every negative, there's a positive.
RobJHam 1 year ago
@tawnygirlwk37 A sinful act does not make a person any less of a christian. Rap has a very large youth following. For years, some rap artists have used their rap lyrics to make people aware of what's going on in America as well as in the world. Which also includes attacking rap lyrics that promote drugs, violence, and sex. Why can't the same art form of music be used to minister God's word? Hip hop never meant shake your booty. Hip hop is not a part of rap.
RobJHam 1 year ago
@tawnygirlwk37 The bible does not say that sinners couldn't be saved. Nor does the bible state that different forms of music can't be used to edify others about God and praise God. A sinful thought is just as bad as physically committing the sin. Rock music and Rap music does not constitute it being evil. The content of the lyrics is what sets the standard. If you truly believe in God, does that make everyone that spreads the gospel a hypocrite? Because we all sin.
RobJHam 1 year ago
@tawnygirlwk37 Rock n Roll is a musical art form. Rap is a musical art form. Gospel music is a musical art form. It all falls under the "music" category. Now, what you do with the music is what determines if it's bad or not. Every man and woman is born with a sin nature through Adam's act of disobedience, which is the reason Jesus sacrificed himself so that we may obtain salvation. Whether you're a christian or not, the bible doesn't say that we wouldn't sin after Jesus' crucifixion.
RobJHam 1 year ago
Congrats on your rebirth. To all of you saying "You wrong! Rock and rap are evil!" First off read Psalms 33:3. If it's praise to God or lessons on a Christian lifestyle, then you are saying God is wrong. The Holy Bible NEVER discourages loud worship. You tell people what is wrong with them because they enjoy different Christian music? If it's all about worship and gives glory to God, it isn't evil. But i KNOW satan would LOVE to stop any form of worship to God, so who are you working for?
rokkernumber2 1 year ago
Music like rock and rap is made by the devils for the devils. You should be listening to Gregorian chant music.
seethootss 1 year ago
Gangsta rap and satanic rock are the samething.
vfIskullangel 1 year ago
@tawnygirlwk37 word meanings have changed over the years. for example b***h. it used to mean a female dog and wasn't a swear word but now it means whore and it is a vulgar swear word.
Doffingnik 1 year ago
Jesus said it very clear: "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad." - He says, if the music is made for Jesus, or to gather people around Jesus, it's okay. If it's not... Well then it's not.
dengronne 1 year ago
of course are satanic!
Is Satan Plan B
trifulquita15 1 year ago
i have two words for you SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES
Akuma31er 1 year ago
May Jesus Christ of Nazareth save all of you hypocrite Christians who promote Rock music in the church. The very term "Rock N Roll" comes from the act of having sex in the back of a car during the 1950's. And you promote this? "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil. May Jesus save your blind souls!!!!!
opios80 1 year ago
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things. Philippians 4:8-9
I don't know if rap is "lovely" lol
nwpspwns 1 year ago
@nwpspwns It's a matter of opinion, which means, if you do it for God and you give him your best from your perspective, then it is good.
qwecars 1 year ago
@qwecars I couldn't agree more :)
nwpspwns 1 year ago
A lot of people dont agree withe the christian rap and rock. They feel we sutppose 2 listen 2 the traditional music, but i've heard of traditional gospel artists commiting adultry and drinking alcohol as well as some christian rap and rock artists today. I feel no matter what genre of christian music we perform of listen 2 pray over it 1st and make sure its glorifying God 2 da fullest. I love christian rap but some artists I dont agree with, because the message isnt strong enough.
JCLIFF7 1 year ago
@JCLIFF7 n2m the so-called traditional music is all from the 1800's. Check the copyrights in the hymn books. That was all new back then. Did they say it was evil then?
thescreamingfish 1 year ago
RELIGION IS BULLSHIT!
globalchaos1984 1 year ago
@globalchaos1984 I dont agree with religion, but i do agree on what Christ did on the cross 4 me.
JCLIFF7 1 year ago
@globalchaos1984 Maybe not "Bullshit" but definitely not a good thing! Jesus came down to earth to DESTROY religion. He didn't like Religion, instead he wanted people to have a personal relationship with his father. This is called "Faith"! And do you know who crucified him? The Religious freaks who called themselves "holy"!
RELIGION KILLS, JESUS SAVES!
qwecars 1 year ago
@qwecars Don't delude yourself, Christianity is a religion just like any other. Its funny to me as an agnostic cause every religious person thinks their religion is somehow unique.
globalchaos1984 1 year ago
@globalchaos1984 It's actually funny to me as an ex-Atheist and a new-born Christian to see Atheists trying to include Christianity into the "Religion" category just to make it easier for them to tackle Christianity. You know, if Christianity is a religion, than so is Atheism. Both are a system of beliefs either way, so if you're going to take that route, you may as well call yourself "Religious"!
qwecars 1 year ago
@qwecars ...you must have some type of reading impediment, I said I was an agnostic, which means I do not believe anything that cannot be proven with logic. I can not prove or disprove any mythical being (ex jesus, allah, vishnu, thor, tooth fairy, santa claus ect)
Faith=belief without proof
I do not know why I am even trying to explain something this simple to a person who has given up on rational thought.
globalchaos1984 1 year ago
@globalchaos1984 I'm sorry I misread your other comment! I have many other comments so I read fast & type fast & sometimes I make mistakes.
I have no problem with agnosticism because it is very well "logical". But the fact that you stated "Religion is bullshit" shows that you completely throw away any reason of a doubt of there being any truth to it. Which actually goes against "agnosticism" because agnosticism only states that Religion cannot be "proven".
qwecars 1 year ago
@qwecars WRONG...again, organized religion is parading around stating that they know the ultimate answer and the only proof behind the claims are 2000+ fairy tales and folklore. So I would stand by that statement that those people are full of shit.
globalchaos1984 1 year ago
@globalchaos1984 Than you're just not agnostic, you are an atheist! You should really do your research before you go around telling people what you are without even knowing what it means! Agnosticism never states that any form of belief is "Bullshit" it says that Religion just can't be proven or disproved so there will always be a reason of a doubt both ways, God or no God!
qwecars 1 year ago
@qwecars ...I CALLED SOMEONE WHO THOUGHT THEY DEFINITELY KNEW THE ANSWER FULL OF SHIT, BECAUSE I SAID THERE ISN'T ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO DEFINITELY STATE EITHER WAY! ...its like I'm talking to a child.
globalchaos1984 1 year ago
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@globalchaos1984 Are the children ALWAYS smarter than you?
Your exact words were "RELIGION IS BULLSHIT!" I'm sorry for not noticing that you were calling "SOMEONE WHO THOUGHT THEY DEFINITELY KNEW THE ANSWER, full of shit!!!!"
qwecars 1 year ago
If you had a kid and tell him to take out the trash and he says :no. Then you said.if you do it. ill give you a candy.and he says:ok ill do it... you see know days people dont go to rock concerts or rap concerts to praise Jesus.they go because they get what they want.because they dont even say the word jesus in their songs know days.their artist dress like any other artist out there.tatoos.earings,and what ever else they got.you see the gospel is not about been cool.or lookin cool.
JahWarriorOneTruth 1 year ago
May god keep using u in many ways bro!!!
MrY0SHi 1 year ago
i praise God that u r saved - i believe that our God is so big and wonderful that even if there was no christian rap or rock He would have found another way to reach out to you!let us not limit God! The angels in heaven according to revelation kneel down, cover their faces and cry holy holy holy and i believe it is not to a rock beat or a rap beat ,worship is about the worshiper not the one worshipping and if the sinless angels worship God in this way who am i to worship God in a worldly fashion
godook 1 year ago
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People have a misconception of good and evil. Especially when it comes to God's standard of it. The perception of man is distorted by nature. Case in point the devil quoted scripture. Eventhough God's word is true in his mouth it was a lie and evil. Rap can't be seperated from it's secular counter part also the same as rock. It's like trying to divorce your parents. Christian Rap is spawned from Hip-Hop which is not of God and Rock the same.
jusme0910 1 year ago
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jusme0910 1 year ago
...false teachings. Furthermore, the verse you quoted has NOTHING to do with this issue, if anything it would disprove your point...and well anyways thats about all I got to say on the subject except that I think its sad that you can just "come to the conclusion" instead of going to the word, which says not to love the things of the world. (1 Corinthians 2:14)
Hymns4ThePilgrims 1 year ago
Cont. (Ran out of room)... I Don't believe God goes against Himself, I did'nt just wake up one day and say "hey I think Ill be anti- rock and rap that sounds like fun!" No, it was a decision to give up the music after HEAVY conviction by the Holy Ghost...I can't believe a God that would convict a person about what they are listening to can USE it to HELP another person...its all emotion. Its sad the church is emersed in so many cultural lies. I too once went to youth events and believed these...
Hymns4ThePilgrims 1 year ago
Who says its "satanic"? now days it seems like christian culture teaches that aside from satan there is nol sin. Satan does not however cause us to sin. We sin ourselves. (1 John 2:15-17). Rap and rock music is worldy, not even you can HONESTLY say its not.
Secondly, You were saved THROUGH the music? if you were saved "THROUGH" the music rather than through Christ, what happens to your salvation when the music is no longer there???
Hymns4ThePilgrims 1 year ago
@Hymns4ThePilgrims ok so most things in this world are worldly. do u drive a car? does it say in the bible u can drive cars? no it doesnt. to say that God can not use metal/rock/rap is stupid. God can do anything. people make things evil. r there not corrupt churches? did christ create this no way. it was people and certain people make rock/rap bad. its not demonic. the band for today has prayed over a crippled man at a show and he was HEALED! and this was from a christian metal band
ARenken27 1 year ago
@ARenken27 Amen!
qwecars 1 year ago
@Hymns4ThePilgrims @Hymns4ThePilgrims i agree with you.Many of the people are blinded by the beats and so called styles the music brings with it. As graysoulja said he thought it was "kool".Its a way for people to listen to worldy styles of music without feeling guilty.The bible says righteousness and unrighteousness can not be yoke.The music sounds worldly for a reason and many of the artist of christian rock& rap are still living worldly with drugs,alcohol& sex.
TheLordsLoveIs4ever 1 year ago
Rappers like ambassador and few others been exposed for commiting adultry while still putting out their music. The music is of satanic orgin all of it is.Its hard to enjoy music after studying the occult ;how it has large influance on music and how only 4 large music companies control world music Really listen 2 lyrics people dont just follow trends do your research dont just listen 2 wat some1 tells. Exou15:2 ..the lord is my song.Let his words be our song beats every kind of music out there!
TheLordsLoveIs4ever 1 year ago
@TheLordsLoveIs4ever Okay, 1. We all make mistakes, that's what makes us human & not Gods! And 2. The record company that Ambassador was signed to, immediately dropped him from their label and wrote a letter to all the fans explaining what happened and asking to pray for him. They said that this type of behavior was not acceptable from their artists!
NOT EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD IS SATANIC!!! You guys need to chill out and quit crying about every little thing in this world!
qwecars 1 year ago
praying is the greatest. you fool
TheNewswiz 1 year ago
Not satanic, just rubbish.
Markofsatan 1 year ago
I keep hearing people say the same thing about 'christian' CCM (rap, rock, etc) that they were 'saved' through this music, if this music saved someone, that person is still going to Hell, why do I say this? For it is by grace that you have been saved, through faith!!!! Get it straight! Christ said, no one cometh to the Father, but by ME! Not by rap, not by rock, not by any music, it is by Christ alone, that we are saved!
PalabraVivaEficaz 1 year ago
@PalabraVivaEficaz They didn't mean that the music itself saved them..the music brought them to have faith in Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit which saved them
nwpspwns 1 year ago
@nwpspwns That is not what he, and many others say, there is a difference between the music saved someone, and the music led someone to God who saved them.
PalabraVivaEficaz 1 year ago
@PalabraVivaEficaz no he clearly means it brought him to God
nwpspwns 1 year ago
@09LASTCALLDISCIPLE or for that matter, so many 'Christians' that have no idea how to explain salvation, or basic doctrine
JayEvangelist09 1 year ago
christian rap all day, GOD ALIMIGHTY!
kryktor 1 year ago
I like you dude... ur cool.
Constantdoodle 1 year ago
I must tell you that it is totally demonic. It is specially designed to trick you and tear you away from God. Please research John Todd and the Illuminati. Read Romans 12:2 We must be transformed from the word. I am saved as well and I want to make it to heaven and you too. May God Be With You.
Mustmakeit2heaven 1 year ago
Rock isn't evil. People have just perverted it. Its people that make rock music evil not the music.
Constantdoodle 1 year ago
Amen brother, I completely agree with everything in this video. Christian rap and rock is a great way to reach out to people that couldn't be reached through traditional methods. Keep up the good work bro.
MrWolfman29 2 years ago
@MrWolfman29 The 'traditional' method you are referring to is to 'go and make disciples of all nations'? 'Preach the Gospel to the whole creation'? Those are biblical methods, the methods that Jesus taught, Christian music is for the believer, not for the unbeliever.
JayEvangelist09 1 year ago
you brought up some great points. im actually writing an essay on this topic now and i agree on your views
jfuchsss 2 years ago
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TheOringinalBRad 2 years ago
Ya I look at it like this if it was made to glorify GOD'S name and not urself it ok to listen to. Me and a couple of my friends actualy made a christian rap group call D.O.G ( Diciples of GOD) and when we perform were not performing for the fans, I said at the end of one of my verses "were doing this for GOD were not doing this for fans". One more thing when u said the Ambassador did u mean Ambassador Lee and the Christian Brothers?
SN0WM9N 2 years ago
I look at it like this. Satan is everywhere, he's in the 'church building', he's as school, he's in rock, he's everywhere a sinner is. The only place, that has no place for satan, is in the Lord. I've heard some rap lines in christian music, that really hit me like, wow, that's definitly the devil, and in the same song, was like, yeah, that's definitly the word of God. I find, satan, and God speaking are spiritual happenings, and it's deeper than just a style of music.
Pressence101 2 years ago
yeah.. i agree. so if you wanted to truly purge satan from youre life you should should just become a vegetable.....
Constantdoodle 1 year ago
so trueeee u totally right and i mean people can sing gospel and curse god.. would it still be holy ????? OF COURSE NOT same thing with christian rap or rock as long as the lyrics are rightious and pure thats all it matter
TheGodson777 2 years ago
You are in error sir. There is no such thing as christian rock or rap. God is not contemporary. In other words , if the gospel does'nt sound like anything else, the gospel music does'nt sound like anything else. God does'nt use rap , and he does'nt use rock. Psalms , spirtual songs , they that worship him, must worship him in spirit and in truth. You are leaning to your own understaning , instead of follwing the holy spirit. Paul ssaid I'm " plain of speech" he was not a rapper, nor was Jesus.
tbursee 2 years ago
Gal 5:22-23
(22) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
(23) gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
OK. God gave us music, mans sin corrupted it. God said that there is now no law against love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. So no law against legit Christian Rap... AKA Lecrae, 116, Ambassador and the such....God Bless
cfuller44 2 years ago
Rom 2:1
(1) Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things.
cfuller44 2 years ago
The bible says clearly be ye in the world not of the world, we are to be set apart. How can we minister to those that need God if they can't see God in us.
Spoken 2 years ago 2
at the end of the day we shouldn't settle ... why do we have to blend into the world were suppose to be the light set upon the hill top not hidden under a basel
516548634adfad 2 years ago
good and evil are perspectives. thats the intelligent deduction. everything is god's will is the cop out for the coward afraid to learn the real truth. afraid to learn he's all alone. this universe is too vast, theres no plausible reason to think god exists other than self deceit.
jinko17 2 years ago
who are you to decide what good and evil is? who is anyone to make that call? good and evil are moral structures that differ always.
jinko17 2 years ago
who are we to decide ??? are you that taken in by Satan to question another persons wisdom on roght and wrong ?? All you have to do is listen to the words to know.Listen to illuminati rappers etc.They in plain site bost the evil that posses's them to make those songs.Beyonce says she gets possesed by Sasha Fierce,a demon shje would not even like if she met on the streets or !,Her Husband Jay Z has a demon named Jayhova.Check it all out,they are all possesed admitingly,Eminem/slim shady and on
Azoutlawz21 2 years ago
If Jesus is not the one who sits on the throne than this means that God has a body. If so, than he has arms, also, legs, head, and a mouth. So than, realistically speaking this would mean that God himself would bend his knee and confess Jesus is Lord, unless of course he's excluded of the scripture.
rickyhurtado 2 years ago
I like the questions you ask ricky.
halfie25 2 years ago
Book, Chapter, and Verse please. I have never read of an Eternal Sonship. Nor is there one in the Bible.
rickyhurtado 2 years ago
Well, he was sent from God, or Begotten I should say but he was also Made of a woman according to Galations 4:4. So how can you justify his flesh (organism) to be eternal?
rickyhurtado 2 years ago
Friend, believe me when I say I believe in John 1 far more than you do.
rickyhurtado 2 years ago
Yes :) You believe Jesus is the Eternal Son. Which there is no foundation for biblically speaking.
rickyhurtado 2 years ago
From Genesis to Revelation God has and will always be ONE. You should be happy for me. I would never break the first and foremost of the rules of Monotheism that "Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One" - So I feel sorry for you, friend. God would never have to replicate himself as a Smaller god. Jesus Was God wrapped in Flesh. He was the Savior. Tell me this, Does God have an Arm?
rickyhurtado 2 years ago
Jesus, God Same thing!!!! Three in one means ONE!!!!! God has many names!!!! Jesus is the Lord, the true God Almighty!!!! God became flesh, and He came to die for our sins, and to rise on the third day, and that we might have everlasting life with Him!!!
JesusHeals777 2 years ago
Where in the Bible does it say God became flesh?
halfie25 2 years ago
John 1:14 and also refer to 1Timothy 3:16
rickyhurtado 2 years ago
The "Word" is not the "Father". Please try again, and showing himself in flsh does not mean the "Father" was flesh. He can show Himself through me or you for that matter. Anything else in proper context?
halfie25 2 years ago
No sir, wrong. If we're counting persons, than that makes more than one Spirit within you according to the thought of the trinity. This promotes "Co-Existence" which defies the saying and declarations of the God of the Old Testament. He said "Beside me there is NONe" -In my oneness thought, I know that the Spirit of Christ IS the Spirit of God. God is a Spirit, who is Holy, thus this makes the Spirit of Christ the Holy Spirit, or Holy Ghost! Man, I love this doctrine of Oneness.
rickyhurtado 2 years ago
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So, my question once again is this, "Which Spirit do you have dwelling within you?"
If Paul was not referring to Only ONE God, but rather 2 spirits... we're in trouble. 'Cause none of our belief systems stem in this direction. But I am a Oneness Believer. I believe Jesus Christ is that ONE God fully.
rickyhurtado 2 years ago
It seems to be the case in point that in Romans 8, Paul was speaking in reference to NO Person but rather Spirit. But I find it contradicting your doctrine in that Jesus is a person. If so, than Paul is wrong. He goes to say "9-But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10-And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness."
rickyhurtado 2 years ago
can you show me in the scriptures where it makes remarks such as "persons" when it comes to the Godhead?
rickyhurtado 2 years ago
You trinity believers like to try and interpret what "the bible is really saying" - When Jesus resurrected he became the Fullness of God. He took his place as the one on the throne. Jesus Christ is God fully. He is the Father, He is the Son, and He is the Spirit. Let me ask you this, what Spirit do you have? God's Spirit, Jesus' Spirit, or the Holy Spirit?
rickyhurtado 2 years ago
First of all, God does not apply the Word Deity to himself. Secondly, you answered incorrect. According to the scripture in Colossians 2:9 "For IN him dwelleth all the FULLNESS of the Godhead bodily" - Therefor making the Godhead exist within Jesus Christ. I would encourage you to study this before digging a bigger hole for yourself when speaking of who God actually is.
rickyhurtado 2 years ago
Tell me this friend, is Jesus in the godhead or is the godhead in Jesus?
rickyhurtado 2 years ago
Thats how I said it, and was telling it, God is three in one, Father, Son and the Holy Spirit.
JesusHeals777 2 years ago
How are you dressed? Do you where jeans? How about shorts? Do you where hats? How about tank tops? Do you where sneakers? If so by your standard of this young man you are dressing worldly! There is nothing wrong with the way this man is dressed, period!
mdscml01 2 years ago
I hear ya bro...it's always a matter of the heart...simple as that...the heart behind the music makes that music...check out my channel...
ourprizefight 2 years ago
You're right...it's the message, not the sound of the music itself.
yuradisman 2 years ago
EVERYONE IS WISE IN THEIR OWN EYES EY..
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Bhadrakshrfg 2 years ago
yo yo yo. to 'rock n roll' means to fornicate. maybe your god is ok w/ fornicating music, but my God is not. good luck explaining this to my God on Judgement Day 1Jn 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
filoIII 3 years ago
First of All like I said a Christian cannot be SAVED and born again if the music were to be Satanic! yes the Orgin of the word "Rock and roll may be evil but never the less thats NOT what Christians are trying to do! Rock and roll can EXIST without having fornicating lyrics!
GrayDisciple 3 years ago
the lyrics are bad but it's the BEAT, the rock 'n roll BACK BEAT, that is what makes it evil. coming from the pagan occultic african drums. you are caught is something that apostate american Christianity says is ok.
filoIII 2 years ago
Isaiah 44:24
24..."I am the LORD,
who has made all things...
If The LORD has made all things he has made music right? Any and ALL things God has made is in fact Good and is able to be used to Glorify Him INCLUDING MUSIC!
Romans 12:1-2
22 When I am with those who are weak, I share their weakness, for I want to bring the weak to Christ. Yes, I try to find common ground with everyone, doing everything I can to save some.
How can we relate to those of the World if we do not find common Ground
GrayDisciple 2 years ago
you took that WAAAAAYYY out of context. why dont you go get you a hooker so you can "relate" to her. you're a victim of the american gospel
filoIII 2 years ago
then Explain to me the context of the Scripture tell me how to exegete it!
Prostitution is NOT in no way honoring to God in anyway! It cannot exist without it dishonoring God, while Music CAN exist without Honoring God! Hymns were sung in the bible and deemed acceptable correct? well it uses instruments created by un-believers and those same instruments are used in secular music thus you shouldn't listen to them right? wrong! thats not the scriptures thats confusion
GrayDisciple 2 years ago
By the way you CAN relate to a prostitute... shes a sinner just as everyone else' is! Like I said in the video how can people become Saved if this music is Un-Godly? its not possible! how can a Christian GROW because of the music if its of the Devil!? Without the Music I listen to I admit I would not be as spiritually Buff as I am Now! explain to me why Satan would try to make his people Come to God! it doesn't even make sense
GrayDisciple 2 years ago
intercourse is of God, IF it's done in its proper place---marriage. but it's wrong if it's outside of marriage. music has it's place if it's not like the world's music and is comformable to His standards. but music becomes a vehicle of satan, even in the church, if it doesnt meet His standards. come out of the world and its music.
filoIII 2 years ago
actually "relating" to a hooker would be testifying to her while she was in the streets in her common ground... this would not include not taking her home (why people always trying to be funny)... you took my man's comment WAAAY out of context... you're a victim to your own ignorance...
just2raw4yall 2 years ago
filolll To me you saying that sounds like saying "prayer in a deep voice is only prayer to the devil". No its not drums are drums voice and pitch are just sounds. The words you say to and about God is the part thet matters. People view music as a satanic thing becouse of its history and not its lyrics. (my bibles cover is black paint but the word inside is the same as my preachers and the rest of my towns biles, is it evil for bing a bible of a dark color?)
covertdee 2 years ago
probably an niv "bible", which would explain a lot. good luck
filoIII 2 years ago
hahaha NIV :)
markay9tyfawr 2 years ago
can u explain to me WHAT part of Christian Rock/Rap is bad! and what part of the music u need to take out to make it acceptable to God?
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Dyvyrzx 3 years ago
music in and of itself is not evil in fact music was born in heaven and man has used it as a tool of expression and thus if that person is èvil`then so is the message if that person is `rightous`then so is the message
islandmamma 3 years ago
yo this is why THE CHURCH does a terrible job at "Relating" to the people now-a-days. I mean ppl callin CCM satanic? like wow its hard enough walkin the walkin in a world that we live in. And like we have Pastor/Rappers and ppl still wanna hate.... Its a shame
98765johnkenderjr432 3 years ago
just b4 the age of elvis the church belived that rock'n'roll where evil (drums where evil)
in a way the moderen death music come from that
but who wants to goto the night club and listen to the flute...alot of good music comes from people standing up to the church baning free music(free will) so i get confused with religien because they say the name of the devil"rebel"is evil...but its not good to stand up for what ya beleive in ie good music..but they try to force people to worshop god/pay fees
kiwirap 3 years ago
Have you read a bible?
YAUS00 3 years ago
yes i have read the bible and unlike the bible i was quoteing historic fact ie church trying to ban elvis for rock n roll music...in the middle ages they would burn people for not paying fees...the church are constantly changeing the story witch is against jesus saying have a strong foundation on rocks rather than sand...and so cause the bible changes constantly how can it be true?
ps i only think music saying to worshop the devil is satanic...christian rock is christian...
kiwirap 3 years ago
sorry for the miss understanding in the last message but i am the oversser of the group and rebel is seen as evil in the eyes of the world but rebel means few standing for what the many others dont
YAUS00 3 years ago
and God wants you to giving and worship him out of your joy in him. The chief end of man is to glorify God by enjoying Him forever. reading psalms36:8 is a way to see God for us and evil is to look at that and say i dont want it God and to eat dirt when sitting in a hot dry land without drinking for days and saying i am not thristy and this brings my delight
YAUS00 3 years ago
I like how that compares :) Thank you for making me see the light.
rickyhurtado 3 years ago
n 1 Corinthians, Paul warns Christians against becoming isolated from the world.
"When I am with those who are weak, I share their weakness, for I want to bring the weak to Christ. Yes, I try to find common ground with everyone, doing everything I can to save some." - 1 Cor. 9:22 (NLT II)
We are supposed to seperate ourselves from the evil and sin of the world, not the world itself. If people can get saved through Christian rap, rock, pop, etc., how can it be evil?
djc0010 3 years ago
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I love listening to a man with a cap turned side-ways, a lack of vocabulary, and I absolutely love your definitions for what you "feel" to be correct.
You seriously need to work on your little study here bro, because this is totally not convincing.
The Bible says "be not conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind..."
How hard is that to understand? Dude, if it looks like the world, and sounds like the world it's because it is the world.
rickyhurtado 3 years ago
In 1 Corinthians, Paul warns Christians against becoming isolated from the world.
"When I am with those who are weak, I share their weakness, for I want to bring the weak to Christ. Yes, I try to find common ground with everyone, doing everything I can to save some." - 1 Cor. 9:22 (NLT II)
We are supposed to seperate ourselves from the evil and sin of the world, not the world itself. If people can get saved through Christian rap, rock, pop, etc., how can it be evil?
djc0010 3 years ago
Nice try. But in a book before that in Romans the 12 chapter verse 1 and 2 if you would take the time to read it you'd see that we're to present our bodies a holy and acceptable sacrifice because it's our reasonable duties than it says that we're to be no conformed to the world. Do me a favor and look up the word 'Conformed'
I made a list of Holy things, and Christian Rap is right dead center at the top. Good job man LOL
rickyhurtado 3 years ago
Paul also wrote Romans 1:32 though they know God's decree that those who practice such thing deserve to die even those that give approval to those who practice them,
YAUS00 3 years ago
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djc0010 3 years ago
the thing about it is doesn't sound like the world. Even people in the world acknoowledge that this is christian music. The words are what really count. If you talk about sinning then yes it's evil but if you are glorifying GOD then how can it be evil?
YAUS00 3 years ago
Yes, I'm using plenty of Bible. Romans 12:2- Be not conformed to the world but be yet TRANSFORMED by the renewing of your mind...
Not only that, but the Bible says to choose the Old Paths, and to "COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM..."
If we sound like the world and wear our baseball caps all stupid, than the church might as well just be a social club.
rickyhurtado 3 years ago
How is listening to Christian music conforming to the world? The world listens to secular music. You keep using the same verse yet you don't even know what it means! Try reading these verses:
1 Chronicles 12:32
Romans 14
---1 CORINTHIANS 9:22---
djc0010 3 years ago
Hey dude... You know this for a fact, Music has a way on influencing people into a trend. i.e. The guy in the video is wearing his cap to the side, I would love to see what the Apostles would think of our current generation. Music has an influence on this guy, his speech is horrible, look at the way he dresses and what he's trying to prove. Nothing proclaiming godliness.
rickyhurtado 3 years ago
It seems to me that your own opinions are more important to you than what the Bible says. So he wears his hat sideways. IT MEANS NOTHING! Also, do you make fun of everyone who has a limited vocabulary? If you do, that's considered judgmental and you know what God thinks about that. If you actually step outside your little comfort zone, and look at the Truth, you'll find that all Christian music that has a true Christian message pleases God. So stop condemning because that's not your job.
djc0010 3 years ago
bro, i'll tell you right now... If I WAS gonna judge I'd say that he's wrong just for believing in a trinity first of all therefor making my judgement call on his "error" of the scripture. Second of all, you can't tell me that you can't reach the world without somewhat sounding like them. The World is reaching for truth, and looking to be better people. So stop calling it Christian Music.... it's straight up Rap, straight up Rock!
rickyhurtado 3 years ago
You just don't get it, do you? Your beliefs are NOT BIBLICAL. How many more verses do I have to give you before you realize that Christian music is Christian music and not satanic music. Christian rap is Christian music. Christian rock is Christian music. How can you honestly tell me that lyrics like "Declare the Lord is forever" (rap) and "I'll forever worship You" (rock) are not Christian. Pick up a Bible and actually get some facts (yes, facts - NOT OPINIONS). The world needs this.
djc0010 3 years ago
the world needs this? No way!!! The world needs an honest encounter with Jesus Christ. I stated scripture already
Acts 2:37 and when they heard this they were pricked in their hearts and said 'men and brethren what shall we do?'
Acts 2:38 than peter said unto them REPENT and be BAPTIZED, EVERYONE OF YOU IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST for the remission of sins...
simple right? I think so.
rickyhurtado 3 years ago
Thank you for providing scripture. Getting it to be relevant is the next step. I agree, the world needs Jesus. Duh. But not everyone is willing to accept Him. So how do you get them to accept Him? With His message of salvation. And if they still won't accept Him because they won't listen to His message then you need to make the message that they can relate to. Music is just one of the many media used to spread the Good News of Jesus Christ. The Bible even says we need to relate. 1cor922
djc0010 3 years ago
The Bible also says "when I was a Child, I spake as a child but when I became a man I put away all childish things"
the scriptures also indicate to choose the Old Paths and to "come out from among them"
We are not Part of this world. Salvation only has one answer: Baptism in Jesus Name. Not Father, Son, Holy Ghost...
rickyhurtado 3 years ago
Listening to Christian music is not "childish" as you say. It's spiritual. Why do you keep saying, "The Bible also says this," "the Bible also says that," and keep pulling up these irrelevant passages. Why won't you just accept or at least respond to the scriptures I am giving you. It seems like you are avoiding them like they're right and you have no answer to them. Oh, wait, they ARE right. They're Scriptures!
djc0010 3 years ago
Friend, unless you are baptized the correct way and filled with the Spirit by the evidence of Speaking in tongues, you arent saved.
rickyhurtado 3 years ago
I'm aware of that. Just look at my channel description. That doesn't have anything to do with Christian music. If you don't have any real arguments left, then just stop replying, because I know about these passages. I know what it takes to get saved, and I know which kind of Christian music is OK to listen to: all of it.
djc0010 3 years ago
Your outlook on Salvation is not correct. You use Romans 10. Is that your Only Salvation Verse?
rickyhurtado 3 years ago
My outlook is not correct? It says it plain and simple in the Bible! You don't have to baptized to be saved. Let me refer you to Luke 23:39-43. Two criminals were crucified with Jesus. One of them mocked Jesus just as the other Jews had. But the other accepted Jesus as the Messiah, and trusted in Him without getting baptized. Yet still Jesus said to him, "I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise" (NLT). Baptism is not a salvation requirement. It is a public proclamation.
djc0010 3 years ago
My friend, Jesus was the Word. Which was God's spoken Word. The testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of Prophecy. This utterly is explained within itself. Jesus was the redeemer, however, the man on the cross was under the Law. Seeing how it had been at the moment of the sacrifice, the Lamb being Christ (Atonement) Jesus was able to forgive him under the Law. Thus, he went to Paradise which was under the Law for the Saints of Old. He was under Grace yet, he was saved by the skin of his teeth.
rickyhurtado 3 years ago
I don't think so. You see, Jesus was tortured IMMENSELY more than the other two criminals. He had more open wounds on His body then skin. Therefore, He only lasted 3 hours on the Cross as the Bible says. However, since the criminals were in better shape than Jesus was, it's reasonable to believe that they lasted longer. Since Jesus released His spirit before dying, then technically, the criminal died in the era of the New Law. And since he was not baptized and still saved, it's not needed.
djc0010 3 years ago
My friend, Jesus was the Christ. The Lamb for sinner's slain. but when I pointed out that he was the Word, I did not only mean the 'Logos' but also 'Re'ma' which is to be translated as "God's Creative" word. Meaning this, Jesus was able to speak it, and it would happen. It would be much easier to believe that all you have to do is believe and trust and be saved but that's not the case. You MUST be Born Againa of water and of Spirit -John 3:1-8
rickyhurtado 3 years ago
Sorry, I don't follow. Please explain to me how this means that baptism is a salvation requirement. How'd the music issue turn into this, anyway?
djc0010 3 years ago
Ricky, I am not here to judge, I am no different than any other person. So do not turn this into judgement, use this as advice. God calls us to be servants, not dividers. First off, you can be baptized and still loose your salvation, so Baptize alone doesn't save, only Jesus Saves! water is a symbol of testimony of denying ourselves and accepting the Lord's suffering. God states everyone has different gifts, some will speak in tongues,some will be teachers, etc 1 Corinthians 12 "continued"
JesusHeals777 2 years ago