Punishment is just a method to hope one can correct someone, to make them see. That's what it is supposed to be, but as they say: "when the wise points at the moon, the fool looks at the finger." Many ppl are so hyped up about making sure someone is punished when "wrongs" are done.
And I think scary punishments are for scaring the masses to keep in line. Though, when some Americans abhor & are fighting against capital punishment, China's a haven for torturers and their trade..& no one objects.
I concur with you. It does require a certain amount of mental gymnastics to comprehend the "official" stance in death penalty states. 'Life is sacred. Since you murdered this person, we're going to kill you,' What did Ghandi say? An eye for an eye makes the world go blind... or something like that.
@huns24 : That wasn't what I was going for. This wasn't so much a value judgment as much as it was an attempt to get people to reflect upon their own subjective beliefs. When presenting the images I tried to be as impartial as is possible. I certainly don't think America is "bad,"
@huns24 but its sure a hell a lot better than places like China. Now if they just got rid o that "suddenly drive-by'd to death" in hoods/schools... it'll be a heaven on Earth. Well, still got corrupt politicians, yet its a better than someplaces! cost of living! big salaries! freedom! Respect for privacy (trust me there are a lot of worse places). And still got retards and hotheaded Jesusfreaks(those 2 things shouldnt mix!)
Bah wth, I would rather live in Germany, wish it was USA instead.
I choose to show Jesus because he was executed. If you remove the myth from the crucifixion and look at it from a reductionistic point of view it is just that, a brutal form of execution. If you look at the images before and after Jesus I believe my point is quite clear... While I am not a Christian (and I don't feel like sticking anything in my pipe and smoking it) I find it interesting that many followers of this executed man, "Son of God" or not, are staunch supporters of the death penalty.
Also, if one is to look at the myth of the crucifixion the ultimate meaning is clear. Forgiveness. It's what anyone who has ever attended Sunday School is taught. "Forgive them father, for they know not what they do," (depending on which of the Synoptic Gospels you're reading). So, looking at it from those two angles that is why I choose to show Jesus. Whether I or you believe in him is moot because about 1/3 of the global population does.
@Watchman2012 "Whether I or you believe in him is moot because about 1/3 of the global population does." HA! well said. If Christianity was some rural tribal religion it wouldn't have so much "persuasiveness." Just like 2000 yrs ago. It's very popular globally today, just like Buddhism was in the East (and yet holds some power) 1 century ago.
Anyway, I believe punishment is just a method for correction, not the correction itself. Ppl, Bloodthirsty lot, just like Christians and their Bible...
Is there any chance I could have first pick at their internal organs... i'm a Hell of a cook?
Loobs666 1 year ago
Punishment is just a method to hope one can correct someone, to make them see. That's what it is supposed to be, but as they say: "when the wise points at the moon, the fool looks at the finger." Many ppl are so hyped up about making sure someone is punished when "wrongs" are done.
And I think scary punishments are for scaring the masses to keep in line. Though, when some Americans abhor & are fighting against capital punishment, China's a haven for torturers and their trade..& no one objects.
CrabTastingMan 1 year ago
wtf i thought this was a song
Fragem420 1 year ago
Execution = official premeditated murder. Who gets to kill the executioner? When does it end? No one has the "right" to kill.
Shepherdess 1 year ago
I concur with you. It does require a certain amount of mental gymnastics to comprehend the "official" stance in death penalty states. 'Life is sacred. Since you murdered this person, we're going to kill you,' What did Ghandi say? An eye for an eye makes the world go blind... or something like that.
Watchman2012 1 year ago
it was the biggest mistake in the history for the world leaders to give the UN membership and the WTO membership to CHINA.
They bear the most cruel, barbaric and species like attitude toward humanity.
They are too far to be Civilized. I wish they would have been removed from the world community.
FUCK CHINA !!
ginipig2008 2 years ago
wow they made me think wow america is bad
huns24 2 years ago
@huns24 : That wasn't what I was going for. This wasn't so much a value judgment as much as it was an attempt to get people to reflect upon their own subjective beliefs. When presenting the images I tried to be as impartial as is possible. I certainly don't think America is "bad,"
Watchman2012 2 years ago
@huns24 but its sure a hell a lot better than places like China. Now if they just got rid o that "suddenly drive-by'd to death" in hoods/schools... it'll be a heaven on Earth. Well, still got corrupt politicians, yet its a better than someplaces! cost of living! big salaries! freedom! Respect for privacy (trust me there are a lot of worse places). And still got retards and hotheaded Jesusfreaks(those 2 things shouldnt mix!)
Bah wth, I would rather live in Germany, wish it was USA instead.
CrabTastingMan 1 year ago
Powerful video.. thanks Watchman. Great track too.. awesome cut not often heard.
mecon01 2 years ago
Thank you.
Watchman2012 2 years ago
well met! you have some valid points.
docjee 2 years ago
why show Jesus? Why, if it weren't for capitol punishment, we wouldn't have Easter, so christians, stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
docjee 2 years ago
I choose to show Jesus because he was executed. If you remove the myth from the crucifixion and look at it from a reductionistic point of view it is just that, a brutal form of execution. If you look at the images before and after Jesus I believe my point is quite clear... While I am not a Christian (and I don't feel like sticking anything in my pipe and smoking it) I find it interesting that many followers of this executed man, "Son of God" or not, are staunch supporters of the death penalty.
Watchman2012 2 years ago
Also, if one is to look at the myth of the crucifixion the ultimate meaning is clear. Forgiveness. It's what anyone who has ever attended Sunday School is taught. "Forgive them father, for they know not what they do," (depending on which of the Synoptic Gospels you're reading). So, looking at it from those two angles that is why I choose to show Jesus. Whether I or you believe in him is moot because about 1/3 of the global population does.
Watchman2012 2 years ago
@Watchman2012 "Whether I or you believe in him is moot because about 1/3 of the global population does." HA! well said. If Christianity was some rural tribal religion it wouldn't have so much "persuasiveness." Just like 2000 yrs ago. It's very popular globally today, just like Buddhism was in the East (and yet holds some power) 1 century ago.
Anyway, I believe punishment is just a method for correction, not the correction itself. Ppl, Bloodthirsty lot, just like Christians and their Bible...
CrabTastingMan 1 year ago