Wings of Russia: Naval Aviation. In Fleet's Service. (Episode 16 of 18)

[q1lion]

Fantastic documentaries specially without the American National Geographic Propaganda.

[MrFaraz14]

amazing how the YAK 141's air frame is comparable to the F-35

FUCKING COPYCATS

[BitnikGr]

@MrFaraz14 Comparable airframe doesn't mean stolen design. Aerodynamics are same for everyone and for same and very specific purpose two designers will design identical airframe from the scratch. Take a look at Formula 1 racing cars...

Besides that I wouldn't even say that YAK-141 reminds F-35. Very different shapes, easily recognizable.

[Antifaith29]

@MrFaraz14 You do realise the yak 141 was a concept long before the f35 ever came into existence, right? If anything the way the vtol works in this aircraft was coppied by the americans.

[sovietskies69]

@MrFaraz14 Yak 141 came first

[dvamateur]

Fantastic documentary series. Nonetheless, I feel quite a big guilty watching all these for free. I mean, someone put in a lot of work to compile these documentaries. I am not sure if it came out on DVD's or VHS. Or maybe these were already broadcast on TV, and TV paid the producers the money, so now maybe it is public domain?

[jmeadlo]

Great Doc. Thanks 4 sharing.

[barron8006]

Thank you for the translation. How do Russian military hobbists view the past Soviet equipment, as that still is the bulk of equipment in the Russian military? I've heard that 70 percent of ex-Soviet people thought the Soviet Union was a better place to live but only 7 percent want it to come back. Can you explain such a differential of opinion?

[BitnikGr]

@barron8006 Firstly, it is not my translation. It's original translation and narration of "Wings of Russia" studio. I am just an uploader here. I don't want to take credits for other's job.

If we search through the entire nomenclature of modern Russian military equipment we will probably find very few projects, which started after 1991 and are not based in any way on former Soviet equipment.

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[BitnikGr]

@barron8006 ...

"I've heard that 70 percent of ex-Soviet people thought the Soviet Union was a better place to live"

Do you have a source of this survey? They counted all ex-Soviet people from 15 CIS countries or only Russians? Taking in mind more poor conditions in most of CIS countries, less development and less security compared to Russia... add ideology to this and then maybe indeed many of them would consider the USSR as better place to live.

[BitnikGr]

@barron8006 ...

"but only 7 percent want it to come back."

Despite poor economy or security issues people want to feel themselves citizens of their own country and not becoming a part of another multi-republic country again. They want their national independence and not political rule from Moscow expanded to their non-russian countries. People today are OK with economical and even military integration, but not with loosing political and national independence again.

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[BitnikGr]

@barron8006 ...

I think Putin was asked a similar question once about his feelings about USSR and if he wants it to come back. His answer was "Those who don't feel nostalgia about times of the USSR, they don't have a heart. Those who want USSR back, they don't have brains."

[Ahamster1]

Like how it's 'Potential Enemy' XD

[xsf908]

I hope Russia will build super carriers.i think Admiral Kuznetsov is too smal to operate naval version of Pak-fa.

[boffinboy100]

Think I'd want to have modernized Sukhoi Su33s instead of MiG29ks. 

[BitnikGr]

@boffinboy100 Why not both? "Admiral Kuznetsov" has 14 SU-33 and 28 MiG-29K.

[boffinboy100]

@BitnikGr

If I had to choose 1. I would preferably like (modernized, naturally), Su33s as fighter aircraft, MiG29Ks as a more multi-role fighter, & a 'Su25k' variant.

Su33 as a counterpart of the F14 & F/A18 fighter role, MiG29K counterpart to F/A18 multirole, 'Su25k' counterpart to A6E.

[franknbeans4761]

@BitnikGr I thought Russia never received it's Mig-29K's yet, and that the only jets operating off of it were Su-33's?

I know the Admiral Kuznetsov is fully capable of operating the 14 Su-33's and 28 Mig-29K's; but that they did not utilize it.

[BitnikGr]

@franknbeans4761 You are correct. Right now Kuznetsov's Air Wing has only 18 SU-33 for fighter role. First operational MiG-29s on Kuznetsov were not MiG-29K, but MiG-29M. Then all MiG-29s were retrieved from carrier and only when they'll build enough MiG-29K they will be based on carrier.

I have a photo of Kuznetsov from 1993 with MiG-29 and SU-27 landing on it. I mean an original photo, not a digital one from internet. It is even signed :)

[BitnikGr]

@BitnikGr "I mean an original photo"

I mean real photo... on paper. Black and white.

[franknbeans4761]

@BitnikGr Very cool! I am surprised they didn't return them to the carriers sooner!

By the way, when launched from the Admiral Kuznetsov, what is the combat radius of the Su-33 and Mig-29K?

[BitnikGr]

@franknbeans4761 MiG-29K - 850km without external fuel tanks, 1300 with 3 external fuel tanks.

SU-33 - ferry range at high altitude - 3000km or 2hours of patrol at distance of 250km.

[DualofChaos]

Kind of funny how the Mig - 29K failed and then became chosen by the Russian navy after all.

[BitnikGr]

@DualofChaos How did it fail?

[DualofChaos]

@BitnikGr Well initially it lost out to the SU-33. Then India bought the Mig - 29K and the Russians decided to replace their old SU-33 with the Mig - 29K. So in the end the Mig - 29K got the last laugh.

[DualofChaos]

@BitnikGr Well initially it lost out to the SU-33. Then India bought the Mig - 29K and the Russians decided to replace their old SU-33 with the Mig - 29K. So in the end the Mig - 29K got the last laugh.

[DualofChaos]

@BitnikGr Well initially it lost out to the SU-33. Then India bought the Mig - 29K and the Russians decided to replace their old SU-33 with the Mig - 29K. So in the end the Mig - 29K got the last laugh. I think Russia bought 24 of them.

[MrTomte09]

my mouth waters when thinking of Tupolevs Bear, one of my favourites

[alfa8]

Extremely good documentary, very unbiased, focusing purely on the facts and reality's at the time.

[julianhood]

Thank-you.



[CIRCAVIOREL]

Thank you for sharing with us these documentaries.



[granskare]

cool!

[solimaniv]

great movie