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  • It's no bs, that a separate LAN card can off-load your CPU. A card, which costs 23$. And we are talking about REAL good cards for that price. So yeah. It's true that a card may help, but the killer is just a waste of money. A huge waste.

  • Another thing this card is useful for, is if you like to download things like movies, games, and music but still want to play a game. It will by far better handle downloading tons of stuff and online gaming then your average nic could.It's like graphics. If you have on board graphics, and buy a card that is just as strong as the on board graphics, the separate card will still out perform the onboard because it's taking the stress off the cpu.

  • This card does work. People with higher end cpu's most likely won't really notice a difference. But. This card is mainly for use when you play games that have alot of players or changes that stay in the game. If you really want to test it out, get trackmania and you will see it work it's magic. Trackmania has hundreds of racers per track. With my normal nic Fully loaded tracks would jitter like no tomorrow. With this nic, runs fine.

  • wow!

  • Free WoW game cards at freewowgametime(.)com?join=9 . Thanks Simonne Danielle

  • WOW, you can do the same thing by picking a better host. was the bandwidth throttled a bit?

  • wat a crap game

  • the only way u wont get lag is if ur isp and line speeds are the fastests available on earth . end of story!!!

  • LOLOL is obviously as you can see, the last guy was shooting to the sky yeah yeah this is how i call markerting promo video and expensive nic card. when you have an Q9550 3.8ghz, 6gb ram and any video card DX10 1gb memory who care about this K-Nic card?

  • I agree. there saying a quad core cant spare the cpu time? lol

  • What alot of horse shit...

  • you found another server with the same map and less ping...gg

  • When windows network stack is full, the CPU is halt to prevent loss of data. This card handles the load right on itself, avoiding the mini shattering, hence increases FPS. IMO it isn't about better FPS, but smoother pictures. This chip clearly showed that the mini shattering was eliminated.

  • LOL. If anyone thinks that was the same pc and connection is stupid. the Killer only slightly increases speed. Fail.

  • ryotaryuu, your ignorant

    don't make asumptions about things you were not involved in. that was the same machine in both parts of the clip with and without killer

    that system was specifically chosen because the CPU is bottlenecked so that the stack bypass introduced by killer would be more dramatic

    granted, a better machine the return is less, but the concept is the same

  • theres a little performance boost when u use KNIC, the thing is, you still need a fast internet provider, and a good overall PC

  • why when i move my mouse is slow and when i click in options+control the warrock closed??

  • are a free form to do warrock no lag?

  • This card improves extremely litle bit

  • in my comp laq be na to much only sound guns is slow

  • fuck off he was just downloading pron on that 1st clip

  • LOL

  • OMG This is just bullshit!!

  • this card is the best if u have a 10 Mpb connection or more like 15 extrema it helps u get about 3/4 of it or 5/4 that means u can get alot more out of what u dont have

  • wow this means that if i buy one i will never die? xD

  • lol bullshit!

  • This is like one of those bullshit washing powder adverts on TV. Whether the killer works or not (and im not saying it doesn't work), this vid is so crap. The first looks like its playing on a chinese server thousands of miles away from the user (those 700+ ping servers the we all avoid), and the second looks like its using a LAN. This video has really over egged the pudding, a less extreme example would have been better at convincing the would be consumer.

  • smiffytf a less extreme example is very easy to "Feel" but hard to "See"

    these videos were created specifically to answer requests from people that wanted to see the most extreme example so it would be clearly visible

    the videos are real, nothing faked. they are the exact same machine, first without killer than with one to show the theoretical potential

    obviously the bottle neck is not that extreme on most systems, but the improvement is still there, you feel the reaction times faster

  • That video is fake and everyone knows it. It was made just so it could sell a product that pretty much has no place on the market.

  • Larkc its not fake.

  • its fake get with it

  • the Killer NIC was supposed to improve windows networking performance, and was launched before vista. vista was also supposed to improve windows networking performance, so i wonder if there is still la benefit? either way i dont think its worth it, you can take that money and get a better upgrade that will increase performance more.

  • If youve got some super powerful multi core processor, I dont think this card will do much for you.

  • Yeah, like a 486, which can easily handle networking. The truth is, if the killer NIC isn't a scam, it's as close as you can get to it. Don't even think of buying one!

  • siscorskiy: doesnt matter how many cores you have, the windows network stack still runs the same unless you bypass it

    larkc: your an idiot, you say "dont buy one" based on what? your ignorance? read the reviews from legit sites, the card works.

    dont listen to morons who dont even own one

  • When I watch this, I about piss myself laughing. There's absolutely NO way that's the same computer, and is it just me or do they even try to shoot that guy.

  • Oh, and I believe the part about the "Windows Network Stack". That would most definitely reduce the lagzzz. HOWEVER, the first part of the video is misleading unless you have a very crappy computer that isn't going to happen.

  • bad1sghost, read the reviews for the killer, many have tested on identical hardware and proven the results

    this vid just shows what 3rd party review tests have already claimed

  • Hmmm, I think it's funny if people really believe in this "lag demo", even with that killer card, if your connection to the game server isn't the best, your magical little card won't make it any better. I'd rather spend my money on a faster internet connection than on this card.

    Oh and nvidia network adapters already got most of it's "benefits". Firstpacket *ahem*

  • nvidia network adapters do not not have an NPU, do not offload UDP data, and do not bypass the windows network stack

    you clearly do not understand the product

  • Right, I've read some stuff about the killer nic and I understand that the small proc on the card does a good job with handling network stuff and their drivers are bypassing the windows stack. What I know about the nvidia network adapters is that they're doing some TCP de-, encoding and checksumming to offload the cpu. But honestly, when you've got a highend system, why do you want 20fps more on top of like 200fps. And I don't think anyone here will notice a response time improvement of 5ms :P

  • borsty you just dont get it, checksum offloading is only a very tiny part of networking, and killer does checksum + the other things

    its not an issue of having enough CPU power, its an issue with how windows itself is designed

    ---

    if youve never tried a good quality mouse you might think a $2 ball mouse is good enough for games, youd never know the difference

    its the same with a killer, it changes the way the networking responds, no matter how good your system is

  • to give this card the benefit of the doubt, the games netcode DOES suck, warrock should be called lagrock.

  • With on board networking, your CPU taking the task of processing them.

    With the networking card it has its own processor so it takes the task of processing those packets, in thus allowing the CPU more utilization for the game, and better frames, along with ping.

    I'm just saying what I believe; I'm probably wrong =\

  • goststriker, you are correct, IF the network card in question has its own processor (most dont)

    killer works the way you describe, because it does have a processor on the NIC itself

  • dumbest example to show us...

    maybe he had things running, maybe more traffic,maybe diffrent server who nows....I think this is just to get ur cash....its very difficult to get an accurate result unless u use to exact pcs side by side ans try them..otherwise this is just a commercical thats trying to get ur money..

    peace america

  • these are the same PC on the same server, with only the killer added in the second time

    these are meant to show the types of pauses caused by the windows network stack when it encounters heavy network traffic

    bypass the windows network stack and even this weak pc can handle war rock smoothly

    you think thats a dumb example? well thats all it is, an example of the type of pauses that can be caused by the windows network stack and the performance gain possible from bypassing it

    simple really

  • total garbage!!! It Should Say On Box

    Warning Only For ***** Americans!!!

  • only for americans?

    sure romashkin777 that makes so much sense, though i think more accurate would be: not for idiots who cant even understand how it works

  • Believe what you want. but i picked up one of these cards a few months ago. im a counter strike/WOW player and i got an improvement.

    the games run alot smoother. on counter strike source, before i bought the killer i had laggy/choppy demos(when you record yourself play for leagues such as cal) but now, they are really smooth, I also was at 70~90 ms on WOW, Im now at 60~70.Killer also has some new features such as killer bandwith control that lets you give more speed to your games.

  • how much faker can it get it is for people who have a crappy computer and slow internet DUHHH!!!!!!!!!

  • Thanks for your clueless comment: even high end computers have been proven to gain FPS and lower latency using a Killer

    It doesn't matter how good your hardware is; if your using a windows operating system: Killer is bypassing the windows network stack. That is a performance increase no matter what hardware your using

    Please get a clue before you make ignorant remarks

  • Its disgusting that this is portrayed as anything near real.

    This company will hopefully burn into the ground as its not taken seriously by any proffessional gaming tournaments as these NICS are banned.

    That disgusting false advertising is nothing more than a downright lie, no one with a pc on the minimum specs of the game will NOT recieve poor frame rates or stuttering in network games.

    This product is a complete lie.

  • Your post is a complete lie. these are endorsed by profesionals and have been used in tournaments world wide. They even sponsor pro teams.

    Your disgusting false information is nothing more than a complete lie, why don't you go burn yourself to the ground, idiot

  • CPU frame rate issues =/= Connection problems.

    Also, explain to me how a network card INCREASES FPS? How does a device for transmitting data packets helps improve graphics performance?

    Sitting on the fence until I can see the results for myself. For the moment, it's just another "PRO GAMERS" overpriced component. Same as those £70-£200 mice you can get.

  • It has been explained in dozens of reviews and all over the website for the product

    They use hardware interupts to bypass the windows network stack

    This free's up CPU resources which are than available to better manage other aspects of your system

    So yes, it can improve FPS. Do even the slightest bit of research and you will find 3rd party reviews explaining that

  • wow the "without the lag" part was exaggerated

  • its for people who have crappy computers that lag to much.

  • there are measurable performance gains even with the best computers.

    granted those effects may not be as dramatic as what is shown in the video, but even in the best PC's the killer has been shown to improve FPS and latency

  • ha ha fake!

  • your an idiot. go read the reviews that prove this is true and not fake before you make stupid posts.

  • Lol, im loving the fps lag in the "demo without the Killer" and not actual internet lag. Plus, its funny how this thing is probably set up anyway.

  • What you have to realize is that the windows network stack can cause FPS lag when it stops to deal with incoming network traffic (it pauses the game frame loop)

    Killer bypasses the windows network stack; thus it can relieve even some "fps lag" not just "internet lag"

    This isn't a special setup either

  • ofmg ty~~~~~~

  • This makes me want one. I lag a lot on TF2 32 man dustbowl servers, which is really annoying. Anyone have experience with this and TF2?

  • i use to play warrock untill it started lagging.

    I use to be fine without lagg. Then one day, it just started lagging out of no where..

  • Ya know, I have a 20mb internet connection, high dual core processor, 512 8600 graphics card and 2mb RAM...and i still get called a lagger...anyone have any idea how to reduce the lag? or am i simply too fast that it still looks like im lagging? lol

  • i have noticed to that warrock lags alot.

  • i am lagging with a 10mbit connection...

  • you arent able to play warrock anymore.... there are some idiots who are too poor for real internet and play with an 56k modem and so everything in the server laggs.... this sucks xD IDIOTS ITS TIME FOR INNNNTTTEEERRRRNNNNEEETTTTT

  • i thought the game was ment to lagg.

  • dumb fuck lol

  • these cards dont do much, make priority packets thats all ¬_¬

  • shows what you know, its a complete offload to an NPU of your UDP data

    go educate yourself before you make dumb comments

  • From performance charts I've seen, the improvement seems to be extremely moderate. Probably should spend the money upgrading your Vid Card/Memory/CPU. If they are all tip top, and you want to blow some more money, THEN pick this up.

  • How could they replay the exact same moment..

  • its not the exact same moment, its just the same map and the same area to show an example, pay attention

  • It's not a replay of the exact same moment. It's just running through the same area of the map again for the video

  • Hmm, I just think they stop downloading porn when they showed the second time..

  • well... what would turning off your downloads do? free up system resources so you can run your games better

    but what if your lagging and your not running other programs? what does adding killer do? free up system resources so you can run your games better

  • i play WarRock, i lag ALOT and everytime i go in a vehicle the game stops then keeps going then stops again, or it just crashes and i gotta close it out

  • is it just me or is this something stupid?this highly makes no difference. the video was obviously encoded slowly.

  • The video was captured using an analog video camera input. This kind of Lag can happen in War Rock (and did in this example). (anybody who plays war-rock knows that this can happen.) if you want a smaller example, click on the Lag Demo 2 (gun lag) which is less harsh lag, but still shows the difference.

  • When I play online games they don't lag like this War Rock demo. I guess there's no reason for me to purchase a killerNIC for me then?

    My older computer does lag, but the $250 this thing costs would be better spent on a new CPU+Video Card then a KillerNIC, wouldn't it?

  • Lag has a tendency to pop up at odd times. If, for example, you do BitTorrent, or in-game VOICE CHAT, you probably are going to have Lag Spikes even on the best computer. Killer fully offloads BitTorrent and Voice!!!! (thus those things do not impact lag any more) See the video at right (FNA Torrent by Bigfoot)

  • This is a scam, DON'T buy it. I wasted my money on it, and the only latency it improved was the lag between me and the store I returned it to.

    I am sure this comment will be deleted. Same reason why they only quote positive feedback out of thousands of people.

  • I won't delete you're post, i like you. really. I don't think you bought a Killer, but I still like the attitude!

    I'm skeptical myself (my best friend is president of the National Skeptics Society, seriously!)

    but, having a card that can fully offload BitTorrent AND Voice Chat in-game... with 0% CPU load... that works man. (Check out the FNA BitTorrent video to right).

    If you did have a Killer, you may not have learned how to use it.

    You may want to check it out again!

  • @hbomb9000 i saw the difference instantly i'm happy with it the thing is yo ucan buy this thinking youll get better speeds with shitty net

  • you probably installed it wrong

  • You are not getting the whole truth here. This card 'may' only improve the speed of your game over LOCAL network games if all the client PCs are connected to the same router & there is no internet connecion involved. When playing online, there could be around 15 routers between your computer and the server that you are connecting to. Each of these routers has a NIC & this product has no effect on their performance. Look for the Windows command line program 'tracert' to see this for yourself. :)

  • endlagnow dot org is sponsored by Bigfoot Networks makers of the Killer NIC, and there they explain that a network card cannot reduce network latency caused by the internet...

    BUT..

    The Killer is designed (as explained) to make gameplay smoother and balance bandwidth and latency (priorities of other apps you run while gaming). Killer bypasses the network stack and has been proven to reduce latency and improve FPS (thereby reducing Lag).

  • Ah, I see. This was not particularly clear in the sales blurb. Surely such subtle improvements could just as easily be achieved by an average gamer by simply weeding out some of the background processes that this device would otherwise counteract? By turning off many of my unrequired Windows Services, I made my own PC significantly better across the board. Improvements in all, from startup time to general performace.

  • I agree in some regards, that's the point of the Killer nic sponsored website (endlagnow do org)

    However, if you read Killer owners comments, being able to 100% offload BitTorrent, Voice Chat, Firewall, + more adds up!

  • no, just weeding out background services still does not bypass the windows stack entirely like killer does

    nor would it prioritize udp over tcp

  • i just bought this card at frys $200,man it improved my WOW a lot,i was almost going to build a new pc to reduce the lag,but this card solved problem.i just cannot beileve i would ever spent 200 for a network card.but it works.

  • SWEET!

    You may want to check out FNA Voice Beta program that was just launched.

    100% offloaded Voice Chat!

  • anyone have a link to a website where I can buy it from?

  • new egg dot com has the best price ever right now at 219 with free shipping

  • k thx

  • You have a site? I lag not! I have Windows Vista! What for a p.c. you have? But, i don't now how stop! Give me a sité! Or teach me how? Or say me please..............

    AntiTank09.

  • Its not a software thing its for internal wise. Its hardware! Its a Networking card that organizes packets being sent out via you Internet conn

  • Have you a sité for that "STOP LAG!!" ?

  • How you doo that! Stop the lag ? Say me please...

  • There is no way to "Stop the Lag"... (sorry)

    KillerNIC dot com is a product that has been reviewed by many (PC Gamer, etc.) and does "smooth out the effects" of Lag (and reduces Latency by a bit)...

    It really is one of the only things you can do...

    Some other things include:

    defrag your HD

    get a better ISP

    try a gaming router

    try servers closer to you (lower ping)

    and more

  • What? A different network card will not improve "lag" because even the ordinary one is really really fast. From my experience network issues are caused by many factors and the network card has rarely anything to do with them.

    However if anyone belives in the Killer NIC, contact me and I will sell you a lag improving hat.

    Now seriously, its just pathetic how people can try to make money off this.

  • Killer NIC does not claim to end Lag. only to smooth the effects of Lag. The reviews say it works great, and it does 'smooth the effect'. The Killer site explain that it bypasses windows and does not improve your ISP nor the server (unless the server is running a Killer).

    Killer even sponsors a tool (called LagMeter) which measures Lag and shows the Server + Network as a major cause...

    Killer does smooth out the game though when the server + network are causing lag.

    Educate.

  • Smooth out? Please, watch the video again, it claims a different story.

  • It says "less lag" not end of lag.

    and it says "smoother gameplay".

    Believe me i wish it did end lag. I hate laggin!

    Get off the laggin waggin and start fraggin.

    I do know (and hardocp, pc gamer magazine, and more) have shown... that it does smooth gameplay and help with less lag&latency.

    is it worth $249? up to the buyer.. but some folks think so.

    also there is a $179 version if you want to try it.

  • I mean the video, it's forged.

    I've read some reviews, one has figures which claim that it reduces latency but they also say the test was hasty, with a possibility of error.

    The second one had numbers which showed no measurable improvement, but the reviewer stated that it felt smoother.

    Inconclusive, but the main thing is the video is still forged.

  • it's not forged, your a moron

  • Scam hardware just like AGEIA PHYSX LOL, U have just used an server that really really lags, then u use an server that doesnt lag, if it the same, u have faked it really good, their is no such big improvements.. lag often depends of that the server u connect to cant send enought amount of data which give u the data too late and u get the lag effect.. how can u make the server with a card maybe miles away send more data? lol

  • Enought amount i meant, but not in the right time...

  • Hey omniwolfvega, you a company shill or what?  Jeez.

  • I am :) but not a shill... I work for Bigfoot.

  • god forbid anyone ever post anything nice about anything on youtube they must automatically be a  shill

    paranoid much?

  • Hmmm.

    Sounds nice.

    How much it cost?

  • 179.99 for Killer K1 (333Mhz version)

    249.99 for Killer M1 (400Mhz version)

    Check NewEgg for regular specials and discounts.

  • thanks !!

    I like it tho`.

  • Strange how this guy doesn't lag like you showed on your video :

    h t t p : / / w w w . y o u t u b e . c o m / watch?v=Y1yWsHv7vTE

    Or you can click on the Link on my Profile , I put that Video and others on Favorites...

    I got it , maybe he has a Killer NIC too!!!

    Taking Screenshot of my Comments just in case you delete them...

  • You don't make much sense. If the game lagged 100% of the time, no one would play.

    But don't act like there aren't a lot of lag spikes in war rock or people that get that gun lag effect.

    What they are trying to show is less lag spikes and a smoother overall play experience with a killer than without.

    That doesn't mean the game can't be played without it, simply that it plays better, with it. Which is something even K2 makes note of on their website under the hardware requirements.

  • If you guys wanna know the truth , just search any "WarRock" Video on Youtube and compare the Lag with Killer NIC...

    It will reveal the truth...

  • that couldve just been recorded from another computer.. i don't believe the difference is that big.. still i think it does give u some boost.

  • well of course they are going to try and show an extreme example

    or would you rather watch hours of footage and wait for lag spikes to happen, than count how many fewer there are with/without killer?

    it's a 1 min clip as a sample, not a comprehensive study. go read some of the reviews if you want that

  • I wouldn't play online without a killer anymore.

    Even when the effect isn't this extreme, there's still a noticeable difference in your online gaming environment.

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