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  • Unfortuneatly it seems that since Government has made education free, it has made education worthless...

  • I have some suggestions:

    1. Use adwords -- google is the answer.

    2. What about adds in the local paper?

    3. How about using Lisa van Dammes school as a great example of what your school is gonna be like? -- Use her as an example

    4. Make people understand what is wrong with the public school, so they become interested.

    5. Mostly teach kids who are too young to be in public schools, that way parents can judge your results later.

    Jesper, Denmark

  • That is exactly the point where the true Roark and the true Rearden come forth. If it were easy, hell, anyone can do that. But when it is hard, yes, when it is hard, it takes a true objectivist to stand steady and to follow one's own self-interest.

    See these times as an opportunity to finally being able to feel objectivism: The worse it goes, the better the opportunity.

  • You are fighting the noblest battle and therefor a very difficult one. If it is any motivation for you that there is someone out there who so estimates your cause, I am glad to lend the fuel. I'm sending you fifty bucks, I know it's quite meager but I hope it gets you going. Your motor is one of the most valuable I know, stay strong brother!

  • I have a good idea - I'll go into grocery stores, without actually getting any kind of teaching certification at all, and pitch my education scheme to parents while they're buying their black people food. Yes, I'll tell them "You too can have your child taught the ways of Ayn Rand in my basement, for the low price of that box of Kraft macaroni and cheese, oh god man, you gotta help me, I'm starving!"

    What could possibly go wrong!?

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  • Is that your idea of you putting food on your family, MrCropper?

  • Do you think you will ever get to the point where you will give up on the school? If you give %100 everyday but after 20 years you're still in poverty and the school still isn't running, will you give up? Or would you just say "tomorrow could be the day"?

  • LOL. I remember arguing with you insane Objectivism back when you were blatantly ignorant about modern physics three years ago. I was slightly concerned that you *would* be teaching children, which I think is scary as hell - what are you going to do, brainwash them with Ayn Rand?

    That said, you're kind of creepy. Walking up to parents in grocery stores, offering to educate their kids with no teaching credentials at all, probably in your basement. Sucks to see you're still an idiot.

  • Good luck. You seem sincere.

  • if you had 11 students and a waiting list in Utah , then why did you leave that?

  • Sorry to hear that the school isn't taking off Mr Cropper. I have to say it is refreshing to see you still stick with it, because it is a worthwhile goal. I really liked this update, realistic but steadfast in the determination to succeed. Hopefully your hard work will pay off soon.

  • Cropper

    How would you feel about doing online (webcam to webcam) tutoring? Alyssa (my 3 year old) is starting to "Come into the light" more and more, it is a very exciting time for me as a father. She is so close to being able to recognize all the letters of the alphabet, and tell me what they are, she can count up to about 20, and can point to a number (mostly just 0-9) and tell me what number it is, she is on the precipice of being able to read words. Send me a PM ...

  • It might help if you teach the children at a library instead of in your apartment. Then as you build trust with parents, you could move the children to your apartment. Often, you can use study rooms in libraries, which would probably be perfect for your uses.

    I think that would go a long way towards getting clients.

  • I dont know what age group you are trying to teach. But if its highschool you might wanna try offering it online. You can do that live now lol. That way home schoolers and such across the country could have access to your school. I dont if many objectivists home school, but its typical of people with somewhat radical beliefs to do homeschooling. So there could be a decent market there .

  • You didn't seem to mentioned what I'd have thought would have been an obvious interim route for you, which is offering supplemental evening tuition with you travelling to the student's home. Many parents make use of this kind of tutor and prefer that you visit them due to their natural concerns over child safety. It also helps to hook up with other tutors offering different specialisms so you can mutually recommend.

  • @kristopheraugust "What about going back to Utah?"

    I might have to, but I'd rather not because there is no money to be made there.

  • @RyanDJamieson "What he needs is to connect with his customers first."

    Does talking to every person in the area count?

    "Until you see business success, why are you sending him money?"

    Maybe because they like my videos and appreciate the content I create. Maybe because they think this is a rotten culture and they'd like to see a change.

  • @MrCropper

    OK, how is that working out for you, though? Like all the money people sent you, have they seen numerical returns? Business is hard-nosed, in my view.

  • @MrCropper

    I agree with both of those points, but you've never sent me any money.

  • @RyanDJamieson "I agree with both of those points, but you've never sent me any money."

    How would I send you money when I can't pay my bills? I'm not in a well-paying job like some viewers; I've chosen poverty and education.

  • @MrCropper

    I've been far lower than you are, Cropper. Far lower. I just gave you free advice. Take it or leave it.

  • @MrCropper

    I am going to make a video response to this, given our comment exchange.

  • @MrCropper

    "... I've chosen poverty and education."

    Do you think now, in retrospect, this is the best possible, most rational, choice?

  • Cropper: Read business books. Start with a book called DIRECT FROM DELL, about Michael Dell's story of business success. LISTEN to his "lessons" carefully and try to get the principle for your own context. I can send this book, if you like.

  • @RyanDJamieson

    Read 10-20 business books over the next month and get as much actionable information and advice from them that you possibly can. Absorb all of the lessons and sit on them. Then go back to square one and reevaluate. For now, I would get a "Joe Job" to pay the bills. You have to understand business and pick up the business mentality of success, which I see you're struggling with. Never get discouraged, is the first. Second is pure objectivity in relation to the goal.

  • Discouragement is not helpful, though. You have to start with kids on a 1-on-1 basis to get a reputation and a track record as a tutor in your area. Then expand with capital. Start with money you have. Do NOT borrow money or get into debt. I would stop asking for donations from YouTube people now.

  • I am working as a sales manager now, just for fun! Do some other job you like to do in the mean time to get some cash in hand.

  • There are a bunch of Objectivist schools in the USA, especially in Cali. Why don't you just go for work one of those schools? Scott Powell, an Objectivist historian, is a good source to contact.

  • Things like this are never easy. But I gotta go with some of the people who have commented and say that advertisement can go an awful long way. The more publicity, any kind of publicity, you have, the more people will come to you. You just gotta spread shot, get your name out there in any way, shape and form possible, even if that means investing in some good ad space (easier said than done I know, but it does pay off). I think the problem mostly is that not enough people know you exist.

  • @HadeanAgent "I think the problem mostly is that not enough people know you exist."

    That's ridiculous. Everyone within mile of our apartment has talked to us. Adverts won't do anything but make us look more professional and legit, which is probably exactly what we need. But to say people don't know about us is ridiculous. Everyone in the area knows me and my wife personally.

  • I've just watched VanDamme video about how she started her teaching career as a private tutor. Have you considered opening a class for extra curriculum studies?

  • @NotThat3 "Have you considered opening a class for extra curriculum studies?"

    That's how I started my Utah school.

  • oh and I agree with tsuterlee, try advertising yourself as a tutor. You would stand to acquire many more clients that way, I think.

  • Don't give up mr.cropper! You're not the first person to have some difficulty getting a school rolling. At the end of the day, you are offering a valuable service so someone is sure to buy it. There's no way a city of 8 million people doesn't have at least 30 parents who are in the market for quality private schooling.

    If it's an issue with the neighborhood, focus on advertising your school in better neighborhoods, to people who are actually in the market for private schools.

    Keep your head up

  • Hang in there MrCropper! I think you will eventually succeed if you keep trying. You might want to make a facebook page for your business. It will expose more people to your school. Try offering tutoring or daycare on Craigslist. Take advantage of technology to market yourself. And please don't give up you just haven't found the best way to market your good idea yet.

  • Alright man, I threw what I could spare your way. And isn't this how successful businesses get formed, through perseverance; and when they are just starting off the owners have to struggled to make endsmeat.

  • You are reading the wrong books!

    You should be reading books about business instead. It will also give you the confidence and a lot of great ideas to go on.

  • @Jazzper79 "You are reading the wrong books!

    You should be reading books about business instead. "

    I've read 5 books on business in the last few months.

  • @Jazzper79

    I agree with this, and I made the same point without seeing your comment. He's gotta get inspiration and encouragement from people who have actually achieved significant business success.

  • Don't hand out fliers, put out fliers door to door. Put out colorful fliers showing the class in Utah. Hit every neighborhood that you can. That's pretty good advertising. Also put fliers on places where you can find parents like institutions, schools, gyms and stuff. Also I think you should advertise as daycare too.

  • dog i dont have no drugs 

  • I've never had the slightest doubt that you'd end up running a wildly successful school. I'll just repeat the quotation that you've sent my way before: "Never give up on your dreams. The struggle is worth it."

  • Maybe people just don't like Randians indoctrinating their children. I know I would not like the idea an objectivist teaching my child.

    Maybe not mention on the flyer, you are an adherent of an essentially racist cultist philosophy. Try postmodern liberation theology, hermeneutical Black literature or eco-feminist inner city studies as subjects, since those are closer to the truth than refuting Indians.

    Hitchens got a hard time now as well: Does he give up? No!

  • @hyperseauton This is sarcastic right?

  • @yankeewh1te

    ah...no. I believe what I wrote.

  • @hyperseauton "Maybe people just don't like Randians indoctrinating their children."

    If Mr. Cropper is really livin' in the hood, I doubt there are many people there who even know who Rand was.

  • @KajiCarson

    So, African Americans are somehow less IQy? No, no, no: African Americans are at least as intelligent as European Americans, the people genociding the Indians. It is just that objectivists have kept Blacks down somehow. If there was equal playing ground, there would be more people of colour in management, marketing, finances and mergers and acquisitions.

  • @hyperseauton You are misrepresenting my comment. Read it again more thoroughly, and you'll see that I never said anything derogatory about blacks. I stated that people living in poor quarters tend to be more interested in meeting end's meet than read philosophy.

    If you took the time and attention required to actually read my comment clearly instead of being a beligerrent troll, you'd know how to respond to comments. You owe me an apology.

  • @KajiCarson

    I owe? I OWE?! I thought objectivists don't expect nothing.

    Anyway:

    The fact that Leonard Peikoff is white is purely a coincidence! The heir of the greatest philosopher who ever lived could just as well have been black.

    I am off to watch variablast. There at least I am positive there is nothing of this racialism going around there.

  • @hyperseauton "I owe? I OWE?! I thought objectivists don't expect nothing."

    Who told you I was an Objectivist?

    Once again, you take one of my sentences out of context and jump to improbable conclusions. You're a pisspoor commenter.

    "The fact that Leonard Peikoff is white is purely a coincidence!"

    hyperseauton. What the hell are you talking about?

    "I am off to watch variablast."

    Don't ever comment on a YouTube video again.

  • @KajiCarson

    "Who told you I was an Objectivist?"

    I deduced it from the fact we are on a Cropper platform here.

    "hyperseauton. What the hell are you talking about?"

    you know Dr Strangel...I mean Peikoff:

    watch?v=JoAWCwm-UXw

    I already defied your order never to comment ever again on a YT video. Watch me...watch me type...type QWERTY

  • @hyperseauton "I deduced it from the fact we are on a Cropper platform here."

    By that logic wouldn't that make you an Objectivist too?

  • @KajiCarson

    I operate on the model that there a channel audience is constituted of mainly minions and drones, but also trolls. I am, no question about it, in the second category since I enjoy pissing Cropperians off. Objectivism is clearly wrong and unethical.

  • @hyperseauton I'm not pissed off; I'm just getting a bit full (I eat trolls for breakfast). =)

    If you want to criticise Objectivism, go ahead. I'll counter you to the best of my abilities. But when you just write "Objectivism sucks" or "it's clearly wrong and unethical", you don't sound like Plato: you sound like Jim Lahey. If you wanna have a discussion with me, you have to provide reasons to your accusations, so I'll have something to work with. Merely ranting will get you nowhere.

  • @KajiCarson

    "Merely ranting will get you nowhere." Well, it got me here: I count 5 responses by you so far.

  • @hyperseauton I just can't win with you can I? ... You know what a shit roach is, hyperseauton? A shit roach is a roach that preys on the shit of others, and follows it wherever it rolls. They don't care about the smell, or the rough texture: they're shit roaches! They roll in shit, just like you seek out the droppings of great giants. Trying to get a RISE out of us Cropperians. No more we say, NO MORE! Our utopia is at hand and we will not falter to any ragged band of ruffians like you!

  • @hyperseauton You will not anger me, hyperanton. You will be my catamite! You will be reduced to a whimsical caddy standing by my side in the field as I hit my hole-in-one! You will stroke my harble! You will lie beside me in our king sized Bulgarian massage bed and whisper into mine ears godDAMN annoying fragmentary evasions and verbalized blueprints for faulty pseudo-philosophical strawmen. Ohhhhhh, SEXY!

  • @hyperseauton Tell you what. I'll be offline for the rest of the day, but if you can construct a valiant criticism of Objectivism, I'll be happy to take a look at your efforts tomorrow, and if they're not unoriginal or something that Cropper has torn apart in his many videos, we can have a civilized and rational discussion. But your critique HAS to be original and worthy of comment, that's the only criteria.

    Good luck, and see you tomorrow. =)

  • @hyperseauton PS. Of course, for our little exchange of comments to work, I'm gonna have to disallow any ad hominem attacks as well. =)

  • @KajiCarson

    watch?v=YnhF1QAEZjU

  • @hyperseauton You took my whimsical musing on poverty and turned it into a white guilt trip about blacks and indians? Dude, you need to get a life.

    "WHAAAAAA, slavery ended 150 years ago and blacks still don't get a chance, WAAAH!" ;_; Cry me a river.

    I mean, seriously, how easy is it to sverve you into an anti-Western, anti-white path of discussion. I'll never stop and ask you for directions when I'm on the road, that's for sure.

  • I didn't know you were married.

  • Mr. C. Have you thought of advertising in the phonebook? Even a little tiny ad under Alternative Schools or Home Schooling, with your phone # and website might be worth the cost. You've walked around your area and have had no response, now you need to broaden your search. The education system is not known for its merit, there will be plenty of people looking for alternatives. Was word of mouth enough for Utah?

  • @andrewtr "Was word of mouth enough for Utah?"

    Yes. I had 11 students and a waiting list.

  • I don't think people understand what you're doing.

    Your approach should be "I can help if your child is struggling in school."

    If you manged to schedule private tutoring for 10 children a week for 90 minutes (two a day for five days), and succeed in raising their grades, finding students for a private school wouldn't be a problem. Why should anyone trust you at this point? Trust is a huge price to ask from parents & it's gotten them 0 from free public education. Change your strategy.

    .

  • Hm, come to think of it you do look like a cop - hadn't noticed it before; I would guess that too.

    You are pretty much the definition clean cut. I would imagine most reasonable people would respond positively to that. That does sound frustrating.

    Stiff upper lip, Cropper. Starting a school is hardly like opening a bodega. It's going to be rough uphill climb. I know managing money in NYC can't be easy. Dogged persistence is going to be key in any case.

  • @Quag7 ^^this is a great comment Quag7 :)

  • MrCropper the police man, that made me giggle.

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