Oh thanks i thought Van Gogh was prounounced Gimme all ya money or i'll sit on yo mama with my gym pants and then she'll say "damn" then all be all "Yeah" then she'll die and then, yeah bOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIEEEE and then, like I'll be ubiquitous and say adidas and deadmau5 and ...poop
I've never heard anyone pronounce it as "FAN GAWCH" before.
Why is everyone saying "OH, IN DUTCH, WE PRONOUNCE IT AS FAN GAWCH", for gods sake, look at the description, it's the American pronunciation, not the Dutch pronunciation. Saying that the Dutch say it that way doesn't help your argument at all.
Dutch person here, you don't pronounce it like this. In Dutch, you pronounce the V and the F the same way (well, most people do so, I think the queen might be the only person who actually pronounces the V as a V) and the g is pronounced like the g in spanish (Like 'la gente') or the ch in german (Du hast mich, go and listen to rammstein). Both the g and gh are pronounced the same way. The a in 'van' is pronounced like the a in 'dark' and the o in 'gogh' is pronounced like the o in 'dog'.
Haha, the dutch have a very weird way of pronouncing the letter G, and you won't be able to do it so easily. You can easily tell who's foreign by listening carefully to that specific letter.
So this is wrong, but it's a nice try.
I actually don't know how to describe the sound, but I guess it's like scraping your throat or something.
In any case, it's something that takes a long time to master and I haven't heard a single foreigner pronounce it perfectly yet.
I know this video says "the correct American English pronunciation" but it's a name, so there's only one correct way and that's the Dutch way. Of course I'm not expecting people to pronounce it like the Dutch pronunciation, since English doesn't have the Dutch 'g' sound, but then just let Americans pronounce it the way they want it (which will be either like this or like goff) and don't pretend there's just one "correct American pronunciation"...
For anyone wondering how to properly say it, it's kind of like "Van Hoh" with an aggressive CCHHH sort of sound on the last "h". Lol it's really hard to describe :/
It's a name, you cannot pronouce it in "american english" a name can only be pronounced one way, in this case the Dutch way, and you are not pronouncing it that way - you are wrong.
Foreign people are funny "you americans are pronouncing blahblahblah wrong!" we do the best we can. Im pretty sure some of you make pronunciation mistakes as well. Go watch the Pink Panther. that fuck couldn't even say Hamburger
When are Americans going to learn that they are the absolute worst on the planet to teach pronunciation of foreign words? Advice: get an education and stop assuming that you are the standard for everything. You're not. Your mispronunciations demonstrate you know NOTHING of other languages.
"a", "e", "ai", "eu", "ue" are among the things you consistently mispronounce.
"u" is another one as in "Déjà Vu" (notice the accents?). Check out with the French how'sit's supposed to be pronounced.
While I understand my fellow countrymen's despair at the American pronunciation, I feel I have to point out that it's ... the American pronunciation. Americans and Anglophones in general simply have trouble with the proper Dutch g. Somewhat similarly I've never heard a Dutch person pronounce "Obama" the way Americans would. Some names are simply hard to pronounce by someone used to another language.
Though I am also often surprised at how Anglophones tend to hop over the 'g' or say f instead. :P
There are lots of acceptable "English" forms of non-English words. I can't stand it when people tell me they've just come back from Firenze - In English, it's Florence - pretentious wankers. Just as when I visit France, I don't insist on saying: Je vien de LONDON - In French, it's Londres.
If a community pronounces a word in a certain way, and you want to be understood in that community, then don't be so precious and use the common form.
this doesn't make any sense! Van Gogh is a Dutch last name. Why don't they let a Dutch person say it instead of an American (who are in general the worst speakers of any foreign language)
@ivanisevic2010 because this is the American pronunciation. Says so in the information. If a Dutchman said it then it wouldn't be the American pronunciation. :P
What's worst about this is not that it doesn't attempt the Dutch pronunciation (v'n choch, with the 'ch' pronounced very roughly like the ch in Scottish 'loch'), that's fair enough, but that anyone could render the word Gogh as 'Go'! In England at least an attempt is made rendering the 'Gogh' as 'Goff' modelling it on 'cough'.
What other word with 'ogh' at the end is rendered as 'o'? You lazy, monolingual ringpiece!
Pronounciation cannot be bestowed upon others. try pronouncing that name in Madarin PinYin and you'll end up with something sounding like a monkey having a diarrhea. It's like how Karaoke and Hong Kong has changed from *KAH LAH O K* and *HURNG GONG*. So unless it's a pronounciation that is unanimously accepted by every person capable of vocal communication. Then some words should just be left alone to our own devices.
Is the final [x] sound really completely omitted in American English? I'm German and we have the [x~χ] sound too and it is usually rendered as [k] by English speakers, as in "Bach", I've never heard anyone say it as "Baa". Same goes for Russian words like "Khrushchev", no one would say "Rushchev".
And I don't know which Dutch dialects pronounce /v/ voiced or not, but they surely don't say [ð]
I understand how someone can say that words can have different pronunciations in different languages, but THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO PRONOUNCE SOMEONE'S NAME, AND YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.
Sorry if my correcting upset you earlier, buddy, but just because a lot of people do something doesn't make it correct according to the rules of grammar and the spoken language. How names are pronounced remains within the realm of its creation. People in different parts of the world pronounce it differently because it's easier for them, yes, but that doesn't make it correct yet. Not even because they'd like to think so. Opinion < Fact.
I think anyone who is not Dutch will most likely pronounce this wrong. But in the US you would say Van Go & UK you would say Van Goff. Both wrong, but you can still understand, that's what's important.
That's not how we pronounce the name in American English. Once again, these videos aren't on Dutch pronunciation. The Dutch "g" sound does not exist in English.
I disagree with him quite often actually, such as his video where "Versace" is pronounced "ver-sah-chay", instead of "ver-sah-chee" as pronounced by the vast majority of the population. But often he is often criticized when he is actually getting it right. For example, in his "bourgeois" video, they criticize him for not using a throat "r" like in French, it's absolutely ridiculous.
Are you saying that we should start pronouncing "situation" as "see-twah-syõ"? And it's not an American accent, it's anglicization, it's adapting foreign words into the English language. The English do it, and so do Americans.
We don't nasalize vowels in English, we adapt words to our own germanic phonological system. Do you know how many French words are in English? The whole sound system of the language would have to change.
@NewYorkFlavour I AM FUCKING DUTCH ASSHOLE. Born and raised. If you were too you'd know what "indorock" meant. The "V" in dutch is closer to a "f" than "v" in many cases such as in "van". I'd charge you money for lessons but I can't fly to New York.
Sorry buddy, you have an accent. I have heard that there are a few accents in Dutch that devoice the "v" into "f" and the "z" into "s", but they do not make up the majority.
@NewYorkFlavour OK "buddy" like I - a life long Dutchie - am about to take Dutch lessons from a New Yorker. That one semester you spent in Utrecht on exchange program does not make you in any way shape or form qualified to lecture an actual Nederlander on the way I speak my own language. Very very funny indeed. A Dutch teacher you are most certainly NOT. But if I need help on mastering the Brooklyn accent, I'll be sure to come to you.
If you can find me a single reputable source on Dutch phonology that states that the "v" is devoiced in certain positions by the majority of Nederlandse sprekers, I would love to see it. Some people get offended when they come to realize that their speech is accented, they assume that they've been growing up speaking the standard their whole life.
u pronounced it totaly wrong... actually ur 2nd pronounciation makes me aggressive because it sounds like u really believe in ur wrong way to say it...
Wow, you people do not understand that these videos are giving the ACCEPTED American English pronunciation. Do you actually hear anyone in conversation or on the news actually pronounce Van Gogh the correct Dutch way? Fuck no. "Van go" is the accepted pronunciation in American English. It's what everybody says. These videos aren't here for those who want to know the real pronunciation. It's for people who want to be understood by the common American.
@BadAssMoma There is no "American English" pronunciation, it's a NAME. There is only one correct way, the way it has been given to the person in question. The video here is wrong.
Yes, there are English pronunciations of foreign names. We're not going to force in foreign sounds that do not already exist in the language to satisfy a couple of pretentious shit stains on Youtube. This video correctly demonstrates how to pronounce "Van Gogh" in American English, if you don't like it, too bad. This is the correct anglicization in the US, and there's nothing you can do about it.
No, they don't. In Dutch, "Gogh" is pronounced /ɣɔx/ or "ghawch". In England, it's either pronounced /gɒf/ or /gɒx/. So not even the vowel is the same. I just can't believe how many thumbs down this video got. This is how it's pronounced in American English, and these videos are done on American English pronunciation. People are so stuck up and full of themselves that it makes me sick to my stomach.
@NewYorkFlavour "Stuck up", Mmm no. If there were any people in the United States (whom claim the exclusive use of 'American' English) that were stuck up, it would be Texas, and New York with New Jersey in a close third, but only because they try so hard to be New York.
I choose to honor the name of people in their native language or do my best to pronounce it (I usually ask how they say it before attempting). Just as I expect people to pronounce mine correctly. But that is just me.
There are stuck up people all across the country, by trying to single out a few states you reveal your own ignorance. I suppose like most adults who are mentally children, your preconceptions of the world are formed by pop culture. As if you met any real Texans, NYers, or Jersyites in your life. It's not about honoring someone, it's an argument about to what extent we go towards emulating the original pronunciation of the word/name before crossing the line of being pretentious.
@NewYorkFlavour Then by your definition, it's simple American laziness. I understand. You don't have to justify it with some philosophical wording, just admit to what it is, Laziness.
BTW, Thanks for thinking I'm some thick headed American that disregards foreign culture. I do my best to keep my views open, I have the world ahead of me, and it is my intention to move out of this doomed country to live in Europe.
So you're a self-hating American, how unfortunate. If you knew anything about how the world works, you would realize that the Europeans are as screwed as us. You still haven't said whether you've met any real NYers, Jerseyites, or Texans, so I assume that's a no. And it's not laziness, nor did I get into anything philosophical. Should we start pronounced "Paris" as "pa-ree" with a throat "r" as it is in French? How about "Rome" as "roh-mah" with a rolled "r"? Good luck w/ that.
@NewYorkFlavour To tell the truth, yes, I have met a couple of New Yorkers while I was in the National Guard. They transferred to Florida so that they could get away from the BS in NY and actually gain experience. I've met Jerseyites in Florida, they were snobbish, rude, and couldn't drive on the roads worth a flip. Texans I have encountered with least, and I am thankful of that, but the ones I have seen, they thought they were the best thing since sliced bread and pockets in jeans.
I say Van Goff
ClutteredVids 3 days ago
Oh thanks i thought Van Gogh was prounounced Gimme all ya money or i'll sit on yo mama with my gym pants and then she'll say "damn" then all be all "Yeah" then she'll die and then, yeah bOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIEEEE and then, like I'll be ubiquitous and say adidas and deadmau5 and ...poop
TheYayHao 1 week ago
Americans pronounce it Van Go.
UK Van Goff
Dutch (proper pronunciation) Vun Hoch (With the och sound like in scottich "loch" with the sound like hocking a loogie at the end sound lol
Please remove this video and stop dumbing down society more.
Therippleaffect 1 week ago
nothing llike it.
lorenzalorenza 1 week ago
Actually the "Gogh" has a bit more phlegm at the end.
RossSimsProductions 2 weeks ago
I've never heard anyone pronounce it as "FAN GAWCH" before.
Why is everyone saying "OH, IN DUTCH, WE PRONOUNCE IT AS FAN GAWCH", for gods sake, look at the description, it's the American pronunciation, not the Dutch pronunciation. Saying that the Dutch say it that way doesn't help your argument at all.
Berniebud 3 weeks ago
@Berniebud If americans butcher sayings into 'could care less', that doesn't mean they're right either.
ItsDorp 1 week ago 2
VAN! GO! YOU CAN DO IT! COME ON! I'M COUNTING ON YOU!
TwoTailedTek 3 weeks ago
23 people have no idea how to pronounce Van Gogh either.
WILLvIvAM 3 weeks ago
Du bist auch ein Wänn Go
Krawuzikabuzi666 1 month ago
In german it's: Wann Goch
Houdiful 1 month ago
then go. Then... Go. Then go.
Elementboy6522 1 month ago
van goff
zoewearsprada 1 month ago 3
It's {van} (not vaan like a car, shorter a) {choch} (like the "ch" in Achmed)
Urazel 1 month ago
no it's not van go it's van goff
xxjazzie98xx 1 month ago
Van Go? No, seriously, learn the correct pronounciation or stop that nonsense!
narutokage777 1 month ago 2
"Learn the correct American English pronunciation" it says. This will make it a lot easier to communicate with Americans than saying "Van Hhhh"
YouWinThisOneTube 1 month ago
Dutch person here, you don't pronounce it like this. In Dutch, you pronounce the V and the F the same way (well, most people do so, I think the queen might be the only person who actually pronounces the V as a V) and the g is pronounced like the g in spanish (Like 'la gente') or the ch in german (Du hast mich, go and listen to rammstein). Both the g and gh are pronounced the same way. The a in 'van' is pronounced like the a in 'dark' and the o in 'gogh' is pronounced like the o in 'dog'.
xxSichaye 1 month ago
@xxSichaye weet niet hoe jij nederlands leert, maar in Zuid-Holland spreken we nog gewoon v als v en f als f :S
members112 1 month ago
@members112 In de meeste delen van Nederland is het verschil tussen een v en een f toch minder hoorbaar dan in het Engels, vooral in het zuiden...
xxSichaye 1 month ago
Every time I hear someone say it that way I want to slice my ear off
sunyata76 2 months ago 7
LOL!!! And wrong. :P In English is sounds more like Van Cough. Where gh is pronounced as G in great. ;)
ppkoning 2 months ago
It's actually pronounced Van trololol
Amazongrassmonster 2 months ago 3
Fail. Not even close.
Gchwow 2 months ago
Why are some of these serious and other one's just ridiculous? This is wrong by the way.
adarkwindblows 2 months ago in playlist More videos from pronunciationbook
very wrong, ask a Dutch person.
MrEddieChaos 2 months ago
Haha noob, the "v" is pronounced like an F
tobakrip 2 months ago
he is not french!
anastaciarabelo 2 months ago
Then go.
ThePaintbox69 2 months ago
Resurrect this man and ask his name.
LomTang 2 months ago
Lolno.
LukaDawnhacker 2 months ago
im dutc
BurnedToast00 2 months ago
I'm confused, I thought PronunciationManual was the troll.
zorpsstudent 2 months ago 2
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well i think it'd be something like ..hmm VAAN COCHHH
anyway this is how we pronounce it in dutch .
Partytime4real 2 months ago
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SO......WRONG!!
it'd be something like ..hmm VAAN COCHHH
well this is how we pronounce it in dutch .
Partytime4real 2 months ago
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SO......WRONG!!
it'd be something like ..hmm VAAN COCHHH
well this is how we pronounce it in dutch
Partytime4real 2 months ago
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SO......WRONG!!
it'd be something like ..hmm VAAN COCHHH
well this is how we pronounce it in dutch
Partytime4real 2 months ago
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SO......WRONG!!
it'd be something like ..hmm VAAN COCHHH
well this is how we pronounce it in dutch
Partytime4real 2 months ago
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totally WRONG !!
it's something like ..hmm VAAN COCHHH
well this is how we pronounce it in dutch
Partytime4real 2 months ago
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totally WRONG !!
it's something like ..hmm V AA N KOCHHH
well this is how we pronounce it in dutch
Partytime4real 2 months ago
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totally WRONG !!
it's something like ..hmm V AA N KOCHHH
well this is how we pronounce it in dutch
Partytime4real 2 months ago
totally WRONG !!
it's something like ..hmm V AA N KOCHHH
well this is how we pronounce it in dutch
Partytime4real 2 months ago
Haha, the dutch have a very weird way of pronouncing the letter G, and you won't be able to do it so easily. You can easily tell who's foreign by listening carefully to that specific letter.
So this is wrong, but it's a nice try.
I actually don't know how to describe the sound, but I guess it's like scraping your throat or something.
In any case, it's something that takes a long time to master and I haven't heard a single foreigner pronounce it perfectly yet.
So you'd better give up on this one.
MitchBouman 3 months ago
Stupid americans its VAN GOFF!!!!!
BioGiraffe101 3 months ago
@BioGiraffe101 Actually, I think you'll find that you are also wrong.
ksbnr1 2 months ago
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Berniebud 3 weeks ago
I know this video says "the correct American English pronunciation" but it's a name, so there's only one correct way and that's the Dutch way. Of course I'm not expecting people to pronounce it like the Dutch pronunciation, since English doesn't have the Dutch 'g' sound, but then just let Americans pronounce it the way they want it (which will be either like this or like goff) and don't pretend there's just one "correct American pronunciation"...
itsjustlenneke 3 months ago 4
@itsjustlenneke
I'm with you. I'm so with you on this. Some things have a native pronunciation and that's all. It's a pronoun, guys!
BeBoBli 3 months ago
i think you can't pronounce the "g" the way you did on this video. you have to say, van hghohgh.. hahaha
Aaronmogi 3 months ago
not even close to how it should sound
joey007007 3 months ago 50
For anyone wondering how to properly say it, it's kind of like "Van Hoh" with an aggressive CCHHH sort of sound on the last "h". Lol it's really hard to describe :/
TheMartini1234 3 months ago
It's a name, you cannot pronouce it in "american english" a name can only be pronounced one way, in this case the Dutch way, and you are not pronouncing it that way - you are wrong.
D3nnehy 3 months ago
ear cut off
TheEternity425 3 months ago
When go?
welowrider32 3 months ago
Fan Go? lol It's not how you pronounce it.
viviones 3 months ago
wheres the van?
coolknot1 3 months ago
Fan Go? xD
Dwarvenforce 3 months ago
then-go
masacatior 4 months ago
Definitly wrong, don't this canal shame? Just delete your whole channel
Marshano100 4 months ago
I think you mean Van Hohhhhghckc
indigohappy 4 months ago 44
From all the fail videos on this channel this one fails the most.
giggsth 4 months ago
Foreign people are funny "you americans are pronouncing blahblahblah wrong!" we do the best we can. Im pretty sure some of you make pronunciation mistakes as well. Go watch the Pink Panther. that fuck couldn't even say Hamburger
BlackManSlim562 4 months ago
@BlackManSlim562 you annoy me.
rietveen26 4 months ago
@BlackManSlim562
Yeah, uhm.. lol Don't think you noticed, but the Pink Panther is not.. It's not real..
The role of Pink Panther isn't even played by a 'foreigner'!
And I'm sure I can pronounce every English word
If you do something, do it right!
Cloud280296 3 months ago
fail..
Cloud280296 4 months ago
Then go Then go THENGO
Daniels1999 4 months ago
still you pronounce it wrong
yajo891 4 months ago
Van GHOOOGGGHHH. It's true.
Zenagaserpent 4 months ago
You guys suck.
WoodULikeSumCatFood 4 months ago
now i know why he cut he ear
ProOrochiMaru 4 months ago
Van go slow, Van go FAST, van go cut off your freaking ear!
TaySharpie 4 months ago
Now teach me how to say "You stupid asshole you're doing it completely wrong, get outta my way and die!"
loxami 4 months ago
all this vids are using the english accent or way of speech, while a lot of things actually need the original pronounciation like:
its not ''fan go''
its not '' volchswegen''
its not '' akeea ''
its not '' hesus''
its not '' cressant''
its not ''carpet diem''
its not '' porscha, like kesha or a pokemon''
just.... dont try to speak ; Dutch, German, French, Italian Etc,
P's, You nailed nutella..... XD
shottydoyle 4 months ago 2
ITS NOT VAN GO!
ITS VAN Huh-ch
FearlessSpinner 4 months ago
Vaan -bear growl-o-bear growl-
haarbal1997 4 months ago
"Teacher? Excuse me?"
"Yes? What is it?"
"I need the toilet"
"Van Gogh" (then go)
crashnburner187 4 months ago
Van go
H3llHoundd 4 months ago
Van there you go telling the Dutch how to pronounce their own names. Stop ruining eveyone else's language.
Pulpdiction1999 4 months ago
When are Americans going to learn that they are the absolute worst on the planet to teach pronunciation of foreign words? Advice: get an education and stop assuming that you are the standard for everything. You're not. Your mispronunciations demonstrate you know NOTHING of other languages.
"a", "e", "ai", "eu", "ue" are among the things you consistently mispronounce.
"u" is another one as in "Déjà Vu" (notice the accents?). Check out with the French how'sit's supposed to be pronounced.
JPM160658 4 months ago 4
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pro3455255 4 months ago
um isn't it pronounced 'fan gok'?
MrsPiim33 4 months ago
@MrsPiim33 nope.
haarbal1997 4 months ago
no its voh huh
TheCreeperNetwork 4 months ago
no on no no no.
sjnugee 4 months ago
i went on here because i didnt know how to pronounce it. i didnt know if it was "van goth", "van gok", or "van goche". lol wut?
cutekittycathatgirl 4 months ago
Then Go
LegoGuy24thereal 4 months ago
I prefer the dutch way of saying it. Sounds funnier :) (no offense dutch people)
Nightcat99 4 months ago
What? No Vincent?
BustinJieber224 4 months ago
While I understand my fellow countrymen's despair at the American pronunciation, I feel I have to point out that it's ... the American pronunciation. Americans and Anglophones in general simply have trouble with the proper Dutch g. Somewhat similarly I've never heard a Dutch person pronounce "Obama" the way Americans would. Some names are simply hard to pronounce by someone used to another language.
Though I am also often surprised at how Anglophones tend to hop over the 'g' or say f instead. :P
FrisianDude 4 months ago
Completely wrong?! Watch QI's video
stumpyman101 4 months ago
It's Dutch, we say it entirely different then they way you just said it.
QforzFovfi 4 months ago
There are lots of acceptable "English" forms of non-English words. I can't stand it when people tell me they've just come back from Firenze - In English, it's Florence - pretentious wankers. Just as when I visit France, I don't insist on saying: Je vien de LONDON - In French, it's Londres.
If a community pronounces a word in a certain way, and you want to be understood in that community, then don't be so precious and use the common form.
MichaelJRadford 4 months ago
stop complaining. I am dutch and do i mind? NO
whatever, americans pronounce it as how it is wirtten. so what.
AnimeAnnemarie 4 months ago
This isn't right, you fail
evilmamaluigi 4 months ago
this doesn't make any sense! Van Gogh is a Dutch last name. Why don't they let a Dutch person say it instead of an American (who are in general the worst speakers of any foreign language)
ivanisevic2010 5 months ago
@ivanisevic2010 because this is the American pronunciation. Says so in the information. If a Dutchman said it then it wouldn't be the American pronunciation. :P
FrisianDude 4 months ago
Van Gogh - Vin Ghokch
LimaBear1235 5 months ago
although this is how most americans pronounce it, it's actually incorrect.
Jrezky 5 months ago
oh so all my art teachers have been wrong by calling him Van-Goff
kikupanchi 5 months ago
Me: 'This channels ridiculous, i may leave'
Pronunciation book: 'Van Gogh'
SamHumphries29 5 months ago
vegan
KhaledAlAsad 5 months ago
What's worst about this is not that it doesn't attempt the Dutch pronunciation (v'n choch, with the 'ch' pronounced very roughly like the ch in Scottish 'loch'), that's fair enough, but that anyone could render the word Gogh as 'Go'! In England at least an attempt is made rendering the 'Gogh' as 'Goff' modelling it on 'cough'.
What other word with 'ogh' at the end is rendered as 'o'? You lazy, monolingual ringpiece!
nakedmambo 5 months ago
ven goal
TifgoCS2 5 months ago
Ven Goch
axlean 5 months ago
Pronounciation cannot be bestowed upon others. try pronouncing that name in Madarin PinYin and you'll end up with something sounding like a monkey having a diarrhea. It's like how Karaoke and Hong Kong has changed from *KAH LAH O K* and *HURNG GONG*. So unless it's a pronounciation that is unanimously accepted by every person capable of vocal communication. Then some words should just be left alone to our own devices.
WarbananaOfDA 5 months ago
The V is pronounced F and you pronounce the gh at the end as gg or ck
LegoGenfilms 5 months ago
Fan Gogg
Hotsumoto90 5 months ago
Tango?
PaulieDeMafia210 5 months ago
VENGO
SAACAAS 5 months ago
"Fun Gogg" is how I pronounce it...
Mnjooschji 5 months ago in playlist More videos from pronunciationbook
Im sure it pronounced like phlegm noises, the best i can write is ckock
DannyEastes 5 months ago
Pretty sure it's Van *phlegm*
just sayin.
ChristalLiciousSays 5 months ago
Vahn Gaugh
acejammer888 5 months ago
I'm dutch and it doesn't even sound like how it should be said :')
GerryGuyCorpsGuy 5 months ago 74
@GerryGuyCorpsGuy i know right it's pronounced something like Van Hoch*phlegm* lol
DerringerHK 4 months ago
@GerryGuyCorpsGuy can't see the joke, you fucking autistic neckbeard?
Travianero94 4 months ago
@Travianero94 GIFT strikes again!
timmyvos112 4 months ago
@Travianero94 who said it was a joke? don't fuck with my beard
GerryGuyCorpsGuy 4 months ago
@GerryGuyCorpsGuy Who gives a shit?
SuperMiwok 3 months ago
@GerryGuyCorpsGuy It should be said as Van Cock
TombestraideR2 3 months ago
why do you make videos of words and names you don't know how to pronounce
haz464 5 months ago 3
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Is the final [x] sound really completely omitted in American English? I'm German and we have the [x~χ] sound too and it is usually rendered as [k] by English speakers, as in "Bach", I've never heard anyone say it as "Baa". Same goes for Russian words like "Khrushchev", no one would say "Rushchev".
And I don't know which Dutch dialects pronounce /v/ voiced or not, but they surely don't say [ð]
bla287 5 months ago
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bla287 5 months ago
It's not "Van Go" it's "Van Goff"! Oh and if you were to ask a Ducth person they'd say it similarly to us Brits, so therefore, we are correct.
HollyLans 5 months ago
@HollyLans no, we say it more like van goggh
thaDjMauz 5 months ago
I understand how someone can say that words can have different pronunciations in different languages, but THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO PRONOUNCE SOMEONE'S NAME, AND YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.
gamegyro56 5 months ago 110
Americans typically say "Van Go".
SpazzyMcGee1337 5 months ago
all my art teachers pronounce it, "Van Goth" WAZ THEY WONG?!?!?!
ryeder5 5 months ago
I've seen the QI episode of the proper pronunciation but we can just say Van Go or Goff or Gock.
ScythePuppet 5 months ago
@NewYorkFlavour
Sorry if my correcting upset you earlier, buddy, but just because a lot of people do something doesn't make it correct according to the rules of grammar and the spoken language. How names are pronounced remains within the realm of its creation. People in different parts of the world pronounce it differently because it's easier for them, yes, but that doesn't make it correct yet. Not even because they'd like to think so. Opinion < Fact.
TeamSociallyAwkward 5 months ago
I think anyone who is not Dutch will most likely pronounce this wrong. But in the US you would say Van Go & UK you would say Van Goff. Both wrong, but you can still understand, that's what's important.
sasha1403 5 months ago
ok, now do Monet.
becauseiamworthless 6 months ago
Lol you pronounce it awfully wrong. You say Vengo, but it is VAN GOGGGGGGHH. Try to pronounce the letter G in the correct way next time.
StephanSteijger 6 months ago
@StephanSteijger
That's not how we pronounce the name in American English. Once again, these videos aren't on Dutch pronunciation. The Dutch "g" sound does not exist in English.
NewYorkFlavour 6 months ago
@NewYorkFlavour I know but why does this uploader pronounce Italian and Spanish words the correct Italian or Spanish way then?
StephanSteijger 6 months ago
@StephanSteijger
I disagree with him quite often actually, such as his video where "Versace" is pronounced "ver-sah-chay", instead of "ver-sah-chee" as pronounced by the vast majority of the population. But often he is often criticized when he is actually getting it right. For example, in his "bourgeois" video, they criticize him for not using a throat "r" like in French, it's absolutely ridiculous.
NewYorkFlavour 6 months ago
@NewYorkFlavour There is only one way to pronounce that.
StephanSteijger 6 months ago
@StephanSteijger
Pronounce what?
NewYorkFlavour 6 months ago
@NewYorkFlavour French words I mean. There is not really an American accent to the French language.
StephanSteijger 6 months ago
@StephanSteijger
Are you saying that we should start pronouncing "situation" as "see-twah-syõ"? And it's not an American accent, it's anglicization, it's adapting foreign words into the English language. The English do it, and so do Americans.
NewYorkFlavour 6 months ago
@NewYorkFlavour Actually yes.
StephanSteijger 6 months ago
@StephanSteijger
We don't nasalize vowels in English, we adapt words to our own germanic phonological system. Do you know how many French words are in English? The whole sound system of the language would have to change.
NewYorkFlavour 6 months ago
@NewYorkFlavour Yeah thats not needed, but I like the words better in French.
StephanSteijger 6 months ago
Van, go!
BlastHardRock 6 months ago
WRONG ASSHOLE. It's a Dutch name, there is no "VAYN" it's "FUN".
indorock 6 months ago
@indorock
Do you even speak Dutch? I do, "van" is pronounced "vahn". The "v" only turns into an "f" in German.
NewYorkFlavour 6 months ago
@NewYorkFlavour I AM FUCKING DUTCH ASSHOLE. Born and raised. If you were too you'd know what "indorock" meant. The "V" in dutch is closer to a "f" than "v" in many cases such as in "van". I'd charge you money for lessons but I can't fly to New York.
indorock 6 months ago
@indorock
Sorry buddy, you have an accent. I have heard that there are a few accents in Dutch that devoice the "v" into "f" and the "z" into "s", but they do not make up the majority.
NewYorkFlavour 6 months ago
@NewYorkFlavour OK "buddy" like I - a life long Dutchie - am about to take Dutch lessons from a New Yorker. That one semester you spent in Utrecht on exchange program does not make you in any way shape or form qualified to lecture an actual Nederlander on the way I speak my own language. Very very funny indeed. A Dutch teacher you are most certainly NOT. But if I need help on mastering the Brooklyn accent, I'll be sure to come to you.
indorock 6 months ago
@indorock
If you can find me a single reputable source on Dutch phonology that states that the "v" is devoiced in certain positions by the majority of Nederlandse sprekers, I would love to see it. Some people get offended when they come to realize that their speech is accented, they assume that they've been growing up speaking the standard their whole life.
NewYorkFlavour 6 months ago
and i've been saying "go van" this whole time
HoukouAoi123 6 months ago
van go!!!!
HRnenozgb 6 months ago 2
No its Ván Gog
JustPwnYou 6 months ago
Vahn Ghoch
BlockAps 6 months ago
u pronounced it totaly wrong... actually ur 2nd pronounciation makes me aggressive because it sounds like u really believe in ur wrong way to say it...
klavib 7 months ago
THEN GO!
Paraclete333 7 months ago 78
It is like Van Hoccch actually
The first G is also pronounced differently
Primus2X 7 months ago
Wow, you people do not understand that these videos are giving the ACCEPTED American English pronunciation. Do you actually hear anyone in conversation or on the news actually pronounce Van Gogh the correct Dutch way? Fuck no. "Van go" is the accepted pronunciation in American English. It's what everybody says. These videos aren't here for those who want to know the real pronunciation. It's for people who want to be understood by the common American.
sizzle9000 7 months ago
Fail.
you have to pronounce it like "fun choch" the ch like in scotish "loch"
babablap 7 months ago
you guys are idiots. read the description it says the AMERICAN ENGLISH pronunciation, not the dutch pronunciation.
BadAssMoma 7 months ago
@BadAssMoma There is no "American English" pronunciation, it's a NAME. There is only one correct way, the way it has been given to the person in question. The video here is wrong.
TeamSociallyAwkward 7 months ago
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NewYorkFlavour 7 months ago
@TeamSociallyAwkward
Yes, there are English pronunciations of foreign names. We're not going to force in foreign sounds that do not already exist in the language to satisfy a couple of pretentious shit stains on Youtube. This video correctly demonstrates how to pronounce "Van Gogh" in American English, if you don't like it, too bad. This is the correct anglicization in the US, and there's nothing you can do about it.
NewYorkFlavour 7 months ago
@NewYorkFlavour England does it, are we, as Americans, too lazy do the same and honor his name?
Reynard13Fuchs 6 months ago
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NewYorkFlavour 6 months ago
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@Reynard13Fuchs
No, they don't. In Dutch, "Gogh" is pronounced /ɣɔx/ or "ghawch". In England, it's either pronounced /gɒf/ or /gɒx/. So not even the vowel is the same. I just can't believe how many thumbs down this video got. This is how it's pronounced in American English, and these videos are done on American English pronunciation. People are so stuck up and full of themselves that it makes me sick to my stomach.
NewYorkFlavour 6 months ago
@NewYorkFlavour "Stuck up", Mmm no. If there were any people in the United States (whom claim the exclusive use of 'American' English) that were stuck up, it would be Texas, and New York with New Jersey in a close third, but only because they try so hard to be New York.
I choose to honor the name of people in their native language or do my best to pronounce it (I usually ask how they say it before attempting). Just as I expect people to pronounce mine correctly. But that is just me.
Reynard13Fuchs 6 months ago
@Reynard13Fuchs
There are stuck up people all across the country, by trying to single out a few states you reveal your own ignorance. I suppose like most adults who are mentally children, your preconceptions of the world are formed by pop culture. As if you met any real Texans, NYers, or Jersyites in your life. It's not about honoring someone, it's an argument about to what extent we go towards emulating the original pronunciation of the word/name before crossing the line of being pretentious.
NewYorkFlavour 6 months ago
@NewYorkFlavour Then by your definition, it's simple American laziness. I understand. You don't have to justify it with some philosophical wording, just admit to what it is, Laziness.
BTW, Thanks for thinking I'm some thick headed American that disregards foreign culture. I do my best to keep my views open, I have the world ahead of me, and it is my intention to move out of this doomed country to live in Europe.
Reynard13Fuchs 6 months ago
@Reynard13Fuchs
So you're a self-hating American, how unfortunate. If you knew anything about how the world works, you would realize that the Europeans are as screwed as us. You still haven't said whether you've met any real NYers, Jerseyites, or Texans, so I assume that's a no. And it's not laziness, nor did I get into anything philosophical. Should we start pronounced "Paris" as "pa-ree" with a throat "r" as it is in French? How about "Rome" as "roh-mah" with a rolled "r"? Good luck w/ that.
NewYorkFlavour 6 months ago
@NewYorkFlavour To tell the truth, yes, I have met a couple of New Yorkers while I was in the National Guard. They transferred to Florida so that they could get away from the BS in NY and actually gain experience. I've met Jerseyites in Florida, they were snobbish, rude, and couldn't drive on the roads worth a flip. Texans I have encountered with least, and I am thankful of that, but the ones I have seen, they thought they were the best thing since sliced bread and pockets in jeans.
Reynard13Fuchs 6 months ago