John Ziegler On Greta Talks About Being Handcuffed

[bloggaloggs]

More shonky 'journalism' from Fox. Watch the whole thing and you'll see the proper context. This bloke rocked up uninvited to an awards ceremony on private property. When he was refused entry he hung around making a pest of himself. When security politely asked him to leave, he wouldn't. They explained to him the concept of being on private property at the invitation of the property's management, but he couldn't grasp it. So they momentarily detained him to explain the options then released him.

[DreamWorldwide]

@bloggaloggs

We have a hugely different interpretation of what happened. He was on the sidewalk; he had every right to be there. And the irony of the situation was indeed extreme.

[bloggaloggs]

@DreamWorldwide Actually I DO know the legalities here, unlike yourself. He was on PRIVATE PREMISES. That's it. And he can be removed from said premises for any reason -or even none at all. It might LOOK like a sidewalk, and it IS a sidewalk. But it's not a public sidewalk. It's a PRIVATE sidewalk. Get it? It's like a sidewalk at Disneyland: your right to be there can be revoked and if you don't comply, force used to remove you. I thought conservatives understood the concept of private property.

[DreamWorldwide]

@bloggaloggs

A sidewalk *inside* Disneyland is not the same as a walkway to a building. Yeah, it could be argued that the walkway was on the building's lot, but they didn't want him to just stand on the sidewalk by the street (which even by your definition would be completely public); they wanted him to go some hundred yards or so (I don't recall the exact amount) away from even that. Again, if he had been trying to bust into the building or blocking people's paths, I'd be with you.

[bloggaloggs]

@DreamWorldwide "Sidewalk", "walkway", "stairs", "ramp", "escalator", "elevator"... Whatever it is, it's on private property and they have the right to ask you to leave -and remove you if you don't. At the end off the raw footage you can see they escort Ziegler and his colleagues out to the public sidewalk. Earlier, Ziegler can be heard to smarmily protest: "You're breaking all sorts of constitutional laws." Horseshit. No constitutional laws have been broken. Go run it past a lawyer.

[DreamWorldwide]

@bloggaloggs

I don't know about that. It seems lawyers *were* involved at some point. And I think what we're unclear on is where public ends and private property begins. You seem to think that anything within 100 yards of the curb is private, at any building at all, but that's not how it works when it comes to where people can protest, etcetera. Also, they didn't just bring him to a "public sidewalk", but completely away from the building. It's not as clear-cut as you state.

[bloggaloggs]

@DreamWorldwide Any idiot can bluff and bluster and put lawyers onto something. And that's what Ziegler did. Then they told him it was completely clear-cut matter and he didn't have a leg to stand on, so he promptly dropped the matter. Incidentally, you should check out some of the other videos up on YouTube of Ziegler getting forcibly ejected from various places -including his own side, a CPAC meeting. He gets off on it. The man's a nut...

[DreamWorldwide]

@bloggaloggs

"Then they told him it was completely clear-cut matter..." How do you know this?

"...other videos up on YouTube of Ziegler getting forcibly ejected from various places..." Yeah, I know, and I saw the CPAC thing. Obviously, Ziegler Makes his points hard, doesn't back down and sees how far he can go until people either respond or kick him out of places (right or wrong) and it becomes news. The drama created helps him in some ways, and hurts in others. We can probably agree on that.

[bloggaloggs]

@DreamWorldwide That we can.

[Madame9Yes]

Hilarious. Couric's candyland line of questioning is branded "mean-spirited." Fact is anybody with a pulse who saw those interviews knows Pain was asked the simplest of questions, and the half wit couldn't reply.

[102936]

But, hey, she "saved the country," according to Helen "Get the Hell Out of Palestine" Thomas, so who am I to make comments.

[ItBrandonSilver]

Good. The idiot needs to go a mental hospital too.

[mr300ism]

FUNNY SHAYAMUSIC THIS GUY IS THE BIGGEST MEDIA WHORE EVER HELL HE THINKS HE IS TODD PALIN.

[mr300ism]

FUNNY SHAYAMUSIC THIS GUY IS THE BIGGEST MEDIA WHORE EVER HELL HE THINKS HE IS TODD PALIN.

[mikewker]

John Ziegler and fox suck.

[beautifulwitch13]

Greta's had some more plastic sugery -- good. Her old face was starting to come back. Zeigler is a true jackass and weenie to boot. "My wrist is hurting." Boohoo.

[Palin123Sucks]

God I would love to kick the crap out of this guy. I'd knock out his teeth and keep em for a souvenir.

[unamuno42]

usc is private property? I thought it was a public university?

[Ninninvt]

@unamuno42 University of Southern California is a private university, check it on wikipedia.

[LordVigeous666999]

It is private property, and they can throw him off the property cause they don't like his hair cut.

However, for a school that teaches journalism, it speaks pretty plainly on what they teach.

So hey Kids! Anyone that wants to show only one side of the story, get your education at USC!

[bbjiggs]

oww, my wrist hurts. what an ass clown

[regusm]

Isn't Greta an attorney? Sheknows full well he was on private property and had not right to be there. This dufus has no possible legal recourse or else he would have filed a suit by now. There are probably some dumby conservatives watching this thinking "omg he should sue them, he had every right to be there." Newsflash, he did not, Greta knows he did not have a right to be there, he knows he didnt. This is a made up controversy trying to get publicity for his trashy documentary

[regusm]

Why were Couric's interviews unfair? She asked Palin basic questions What do you read? Name a supreme ct decision. Not Couric's fault Palin looked like an idiot and was stumped. Where does a nobody such as Ziegler have a constitutional right to stay on private property when asked to leave = trespassing. Of course Greta is sympathetic b/c her husband has a sick obsession with Palin, just like Ziegler. Ya like the barricade was for him or anyone even read his article prior to the ceremony.

[pikappaphi2035]

What the fuck did he THINK would happen? This is exactly what this ass clown wanted and he knows it. He's bashing Katie Couric at her award ceremony! To bad the law is not on his side.

[dragster178]

So it's against the law to perform freedom of speech. I remember a couple of years ago where Dick Cheney was being interviewed and all of a sudden someone came out behind a tree and began shouting "Dick Cheney is a douchebag". He wasn't arrested or even removed from the scene.

[brunojan08]

Couric was "not journalism...but advocacy." Right on! This guy is the bomb!

[BaRrYF350]

Get off the drugs! Zieglar is not the bomb but needs one up his ass!

[citiiac]

I've become a huge fan of John over the past three hours but it i/s private property.

[sep1456]

He should have offered the ten cent guards a blow job, then they would have thought he was a left wing liberal.

[bjd002]

Hey, here's some legal advice: If you're asked to leave private property, maybe you should. Standing on private property without permission is trespassing. Trespassing is illegal. Illegal activities often get you arrested.

USC is private property. He was asked several times to leave and he refused. He knew what he was doing...

[jakeh1981]

Figures why this is on Hot Air (how appropriate). USC = Privately funded university. You CAN get kicked out as Ziegler was. Just like at Notre Dame. Sorry bitch.

[Dergfight]

I love Ziegler's fake outrage. He tries so hard.

[tannersanta]

Isn't he the douche activist for that cunt palin?

HAHAHAHAHA

PALIN=FAIL

=D

[rhymeandreasoning]

he is very cocky, arrogant and extremely obnoxious, but for some odd reason one finds themselves actually liking him ...whenever he is on tv..i always watch.

[quicksite]

Hah hah == what a douche. Here is this guy acting like he's "pro integrity" & offended that he's not allowed to ask attendees questions about why they came to see KATIE COURIC get an award? And to think, now that I have watched the actual proceedings from the Annenberg Center, I now find out that integrity-challenged George Stephanopolous received a Cronkite Award as well

Watch it and weep.

watch?v=BkrBxxpRP-4

Unbelievable -- all upset that Couric PRESSED idiotic Palin. That was your beef.

[ShayaMusic]

It gives a bad name to the University, especially of Journalism, to not allow access to the press.

[Ninninvt]

@ShayaMusic Access is not always granted to everyone. This is a fact of life, get over it. I cannot put a press badge on my chest tomorrow and expect to be allowed into the White House Press Conference room as a journalist. Zeigler is not a recognized journalist with zero backing from any media outlet except his own. He shouldn't expect to be given press access to a private event because he is... a nobody.

[damoparman]

@Ninninvt your not from this country---SHUT UP

[Ninninvt]

@damoparman Oh, what makes you think that? You're just another American idiot that makes up facts.

[damoparman]

@Ninninvt ---where r u from then?---northern mariana islands?---chicago?--navada?--­-where?

[Ninninvt]

@damoparman Did you know that Northern Mariana Islands is part of the US? Wikipedia is pretty useful, no? I'm from the continental US though, if that makes you feel better.

[damoparman]

@Ninninvt ---yeah?? who did you vote for pres.?---who is your u.s. gov.? who is your state rep.? who is the senator?

[Ninninvt]

@damoparman Obama. The rest is none of your business.

[BoxerSanteros5150]

After doing some research I found that USC DPS Officers work under the authority of California Penal Code 830.7 (b) which simply states: Police Academy graduates who work for Private Universities have Police Officer Powers of arrest. Mr. Ziegler was advised to leave the private property and he was detained for refusing to do so. Once he was handcuffed and advised again he complied therefore he was not booked. He was granted a second chance, most likely because he is a journalist.

[andyn1331]

JOHN MUST GO FREE!!!

FREE JOHN ZIEGLER!!!

FREE JOHN!!!

Down with the man!

FREE THE OPPRESSED VOICE OF BROTHER JOHN!!!!

John Lennon

John F. Kennedy

John Ziegler

FREE THE JOHNS!!!!

[andyn1331]

FREE JOHN ZIEGLER!!!

The capitalist dogs at MSNBC and ABC will be overthrown by the people's peaceful revolution!

The socialists are revolting!

FREE JOHN ZIEGLER!!!

FREE JOHN!!!

FREE JOHN ZIEGLER!!!

FREE JOHN!!!

[mr300ism]

@andyn1331 OH AND I SUPPOSE FAUX NEWS ISNT BIASED FOR 8 YEARS THEY SLOBBERED OVER BUSH AND CHENEY.

[andyn1331]

FREE JOHN!!!!

[pickforfood]

So the answer is fascism?

[siberiandreams]

The only thing this video exposes is that Ziegler is a whining little douche bag.

[Janht1]

As if ANYONE attending an award dinner for Couric would dirty their hands with that trash "documentary". He knows that and was there for publicity...period. IF he doesn't, he's more stupid than I imagined. My fav part of the movie trailer was Palin channeling a 7th grader ...."maybe because you're not the center of the universe Katie". OH MY. Doesn't that just sound soooo vice/presidential????

Thank you Ms Couric!

[TavernWenchBlog]

Honestly, if righties want to make a hero out of this whiny-assed, half-crocked, self-promotional, professional-victim drama queen, I'm sure not not going to stand in their way.

[daddiokng]

How is a question about what you read biased? I just don't get it. It seems like if Republicants are asked a question they don't like they scream media bias. Maybe Katie should have asked her what toothpaste she prefers....oh wait, that would be biased.

[lennonusman]

FROM NYMAG

It was Couric who got her rambling, Couric who got her faking, and Couric who got her stammering so badly that the governor replied at one point that shed have to try to find you some [examples] and Ill bring em to ya. Couric did all of this with perfect calm and grace.

[102936]

@lennonusman Agreed, just as graceful was she when she allowed Biden to get away with saying FDR got on television in 1929 to calm the nation after the Stock Market's Crash.

[siberiandreams]

They should have tazed him and then waterboarded him. Commie bastard!

[sabaw1172]

Yaganao-are you drunk?..Ziegler wasn't drunk. He was there to question why Katie Couric is being honored for doing media malpractice...typical liberal bias....so sad to see this in America.

[Janht1]

If you want to question why she's being honored, you DO NOT GO to the event where she is being honored....WTH?? Think he's going to get what he wants from that group? You question through the media....but he's not IN the media so he can't do that...lol. Publicity stunt period...for his silly "documentary" which is mentioned numerous times.

I have a funny, smart 7 yr old nephew who loves his microphone too....but he's not a journalist. Then again? He's already better than ole Ziggy!

[sabaw1172]

NoGuff is right..., this is so sad, when a journalist cannot ask questions about a certain event...,such a double standard...

[smoothcriminal3807]

This guy is a certifiable lunatic. He trespasses on private property, mouths off to security, and, then he's surprised when he gets arrested. This guy has such a hard-on for Palin that I think the blood loss is affecting his brain. That ridiculous propaganda piece, "Media Malpractice" was bad enough. And now, he goes out and stages a drunken protest on the campus of a private university just so he can get arrested and become a martyr for his cause. Man, these right-wingers are something else.

[Yoganao]

Ziegler trying to play the victim for Fox Noise.

[Yoganao]

Ziegler seemed drunk when he was "interviewing" crazy Sarah Palin, matriarch of the countrys most famous dysfunctional family, & her blaming the media, it was ridiculous!

[NoGuff]

HELLO! WAKE UP, PEOPLE.

You asked for examples of the Liberal "Thought Police." Any other journalist would have been free to "do journalism" at a "journalism" event.

But when a Conservative voice shows up, it's a crime.

This would appear very normal in 1930s Germany, arresting a Jewish reporter at a public event for doing his job as the law allows. Back then he would be arrested for being Jewish, here for being a Conservative.

Well, Obama did say he wanted to change America. Happy now?

[ilikeguinness1]

Oooh he's so bad. You guys make it sound like he used his position at the station to demand sex from the women he worked with. You probably talk shit about women yourselves ya bunch of hypocrites.

[ilikeguinness1]

during a Ask John Anything segment, he discussed the physical attributes, intimate attire, and genital grooming of Darcie Divita, a WDRB morning television host with whom Ziegler had a relationship until Divita broke up with him. WHAS fired him and Divita sued for $2,700,000, claiming libel and defamation of character. On May 24, 2005, Ziegler was found not liable for damages as Divita was deemed a public figure by virtue of being a television personality. The case is currently on appeal.

[SodiumCyanide]

Well unfortunately for him USC is a private university so if he was on their property then he did not have the legal right to be there, whether he was doing interviews or just chewing gum.

I would be curious, however, if those were actual police or just campus mall cops. If they are not real police then more than likely they had no right to physically detain him (even when making a citizen's arrest you can't do that in most states).

[amansharma06]

they are the Department of Public Safety at USC ...they do make arrests and hand em over to LAPD

[John7714]

Google Ziegler sexual harassment Louisville

That is why he can only visit Louisville on special occasions

And after he was asked to leave and refused he was handcuffed. Then he tells them that they can do anything they want. Haha there goes his legal suit.

[owchywawa]

If he did nothing wrong, he should sue.

[mr300ism]

@owchywawa I SEUED YOUR MOM LAST NIGHT BITCH GO FUCK ZIEGLER ASS

[spamiam]

This is absolutely shameful on the part of USC Annenberg School. They dare to describe their facility as a "school of journalism". Yeah, right.

[mistacandy]

Out to ask questions, and gets arrested. It is a shame to happen in America. It sounds more like China to me.

[sage0857]

Cry Baby Cry ... all this because he's upset cause Katie won an award. RepubliCUNTs cant take defeat of anything. And cry cry cry ...

this is why RepubliCUNTs are losing America, they are losing thier fucking minds.

[skibonzai]

The director of public "safety" at USC is Carey Drayton. 213-821-5748.

[aragorn44]

don't tase me, bro!

[lennonusman]

He really is an insecure creature.. doesn't want Couric to win an award becoz he's envy of the CBS anchor

[owchywawa]

"He really is an insecure creature.. doesn't want Couric to win an award becoz he's envy of the CBS anchor"

If Osama was receiving a religious leader award, wouldn't you try to get the truth out? I would. Would that mean you are jealous? Of course not.

[lennonusman]

Is Osama related in this issue? Come on! Katie is deserving of the award on so many levels... Next time analyze things first b4 u comment

[owchywawa]

"Is Osama related in this issue?"

No.  I never said he was. I was merely pointing out that he is not jealous. He thinks Katie Couric is part of the misinformation which is given by the media.

"Katie is deserving of the award on so many levels..."

I disagree of course.

"Next time analyze things first b4 u comment"

Have you watched John Ziegler's movie? I have. If not, maybe you should analyze things!

[lennonusman]

I haven't watched his documentary nor ever had plans of watching it... he's doing it to sell his docu..

One thing you can't face is how incompetent Palin was... Couric just did her job.. it's just that Palin can't answer simple question..

THIS IF FROM THE NY MAG

Whatever you thought of Katie Couric until now, you must, if you are a self-respecting American citizen, take this moment to praise her for helping to expose the awesome vacuity of Alaska governor Sarah Palin.

[owchywawa]

"One thing you can't face is how incompetent Palin was... Couric just did her job.. it's just that Palin can't answer simple question..."

And this movie exposes how wrong you are.

[lennonusman]

bcoz you had seen the movie and you haven't seen and analyze the entire Katie Couric interview....

[owchywawa]

"bcoz you had seen the movie and you haven't seen and analyze the entire Katie Couric interview...."

I don't like Palin myself as a president, but I disagree with you. Whatever man :P This discussion is useless.

Btw, I have seen the edited Katie Couric video just like everyone else.

[lennonusman]

oh really?? yeah it's useless to argue with someone who patronizes the Failing Palin

[americandb]

This is only the beginning of what we're heading towards! STAND UP & SPEAK UP NOW, while you still can! GOD BLESS AMERICA!

[mr300ism]

@americandb GO suck Huckabee's dick you probably think Iraq is honor too idiot

[cashdudehomie]

This is disgusting. Those officers should be fired.

[lennonusman]

no... John Ziegler should be handcuffed.. he's an insecure creature and is envy of Couric's award...

[jakeh1981]

No dumbass. USC is a private university. They can kick you off for ANY REASON WHATSOEVER. That's the rules, deal with it.