You see folks , what you have here, are a bunch of rejected , abused , used ,pimped out , turned out ,divorced , fatherless mostly black and obviously rebllious women , who because they themselves have never encountered a man that was worth a tinkers dam, think that God must have the same problem. But just because YOU cant find a man worth his salt, does'nt mean God cant. God never needs something so bad, that he has to go against his own word to get it done.
The bible refers to her only as a " sister" not first lady and not a "soldier" like her husband , and having a church meet in your home , does'nt qualify you as a co pastor to your husband. The word "pastor" only has a masculine form. It does not have a feminine form like the word prophet does. It's funny how people twist the bible to make their point. the same way homosexuals do. You've got to get up a little earlier in the morning lady, because that dog wont hunt. What else you got?
Umm firstly, i'm a mister...secondly, yes she was...but i understand your confusion being that your a surface bible reader and not one that STUDIES to show them selves approved...and while your getting up earlier in the morning why dont you study your bible with a cup of coffee and a concordance, cuz this dog hunts and will bite...and thts all i got because that last statement of your reveals that your one of them youtubers that feed off of silly debates like these...Bless your heart...
I dont feed off of silly debates. and the only thing silly here, is the silly woman ,on the other end of this converstion. Minister is generic, so if you want to call yourself a minister , go right ahead. But if you STUDY the word PASTOR, since you claim you study, then you would know that "pastor" is masculine and it means shephard. if you were to go to Isreal today, you would not find one female shephard gaurding the flock. The word pastor is never and will never be appended to a woman.
See you cant even study my little comment...you called me miss, and i said i'm a mister not a minister...if you cant even study my comment, how can i trust your interpretation of the bible...?
I thought that was a typo , i apologize. But your stance on women pastors is wrong. Ephesians 5:23 states,. "For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the Saviour of the body." 1 Timothy 3:2, 12
"A bishop then must be blameless, the HUSBAND of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach. . . . Let the deacons be the HUSBANDS of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well."
now that sounds kind of like pride..its as open as the grand canyon? So does that mean it cannot be opened anymore? Well then sounds like you need to go and stand out in the middle of the freeway...cause your ready for glory...Go on and be with Jesus..
You can interpretate that any way you want to , but what you cant do is justify by the word of God , a female pastor. So get back to the subject and prove me wrong
I'm sorry, but truth doesnt have to be justified, the bible is self authenticating...and neway you havent "justified" any thing, you've only spat out context specific scripture that prove nothing except your ignorance of the subject and of the scripture...
See Gal. 3:28, Exodus 15:20: Miriam, the sister of Aaron was a prophetess;
Philippians 4:2: Paul refers to two women, Euodia and Syntyche, as evangelists; Romans 16:7: Junia as "outstanding among the apostles. English is no the orig. langauge. The two names (Andronicus and Junias) are in the accusative form (they are recipients of the verb greet), the second name appears as Junian, which is the accusative form of the feminine name Junia. (Hence a FEMALE)
Rbanderson2 I'm still waiting for you to find the female pastor. Those scriptures you made reference to prove nothing. I'm looking for a female PASTOR , a female SHEPHARD.
@tbursee I see you have no real purpose in your life but to harass youtube about women preachers. Tell you what I see you so much that all i will do is pray for you that you gain a real purpose because if u didnt like what you heard you would not be listening. your on so many places leaving comments. keep going cause God's got a word for you and you know its good lol! The devil in you just wont admit to it right now. But I praying for your deliverance in the name of Jesus!!
If you think God called a woman to shephard his flock, you're the one that needs deliverance. I think I'll put together my own series of vidoes on this subject in the near future, stay tuned.
Respectfully Tbursee, you are looking at this from a logos prespective without rhema. Eph. 5:23 is stating "Husband is head (kephalē) or the first to go into battle of the wife as Christ is the first one to go into battle for the church. Paul did not use the greek word arche. You base your arguements on Paul and not on what God has said. See Joel 2:28, Gen. 1:28. Lastly, a bishop is an administrative function, not 5-fold ministry. Shephard (poimēn) is literal and metaphorical Eph. 4:11
Well irregardless of where you think I'm looking at it from, you still have not found a female pastor. Seems to me if your interpretation was correct ,there would be at least one in the book.
Can anyone show me a female pastor in the bible? And second of all , we are not caught up in the air to meet Jesus, the bible says he touches down on a mountain. And the reason why those statistics you quote are true, is because big mouth rebellous women have replaced men in the home, just like they have in the church.
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Does anybody care what the bible says any more???
1Cr 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
CO-Pastor Denise came to our church last yr and she had a prophetic message from God to me. She is a awesome woman of God. If anyone has a opportunity to go here her speak, do not let it pass you by.
This is the way the Evangelist and preachers preached back in my day... The raw Word of God! Preach Co-Pastor. And they use to dress up in holiness. Love it!!
I was here on the first row! yay meee!!!=] it was wonderful. sad I miss last years space of qrace...
ChrissyIamNique 1 year ago
wow! I have seen and heard Denise Ray preach twice. I love her! an awesome women of God!
kiki1ization 1 year ago
You see folks , what you have here, are a bunch of rejected , abused , used ,pimped out , turned out ,divorced , fatherless mostly black and obviously rebllious women , who because they themselves have never encountered a man that was worth a tinkers dam, think that God must have the same problem. But just because YOU cant find a man worth his salt, does'nt mean God cant. God never needs something so bad, that he has to go against his own word to get it done.
tbursee 2 years ago
The bible refers to her only as a " sister" not first lady and not a "soldier" like her husband , and having a church meet in your home , does'nt qualify you as a co pastor to your husband. The word "pastor" only has a masculine form. It does not have a feminine form like the word prophet does. It's funny how people twist the bible to make their point. the same way homosexuals do. You've got to get up a little earlier in the morning lady, because that dog wont hunt. What else you got?
tbursee 2 years ago
Umm firstly, i'm a mister...secondly, yes she was...but i understand your confusion being that your a surface bible reader and not one that STUDIES to show them selves approved...and while your getting up earlier in the morning why dont you study your bible with a cup of coffee and a concordance, cuz this dog hunts and will bite...and thts all i got because that last statement of your reveals that your one of them youtubers that feed off of silly debates like these...Bless your heart...
christizall 2 years ago
I dont feed off of silly debates. and the only thing silly here, is the silly woman ,on the other end of this converstion. Minister is generic, so if you want to call yourself a minister , go right ahead. But if you STUDY the word PASTOR, since you claim you study, then you would know that "pastor" is masculine and it means shephard. if you were to go to Isreal today, you would not find one female shephard gaurding the flock. The word pastor is never and will never be appended to a woman.
tbursee 2 years ago
See you cant even study my little comment...you called me miss, and i said i'm a mister not a minister...if you cant even study my comment, how can i trust your interpretation of the bible...?
christizall 2 years ago
I thought that was a typo , i apologize. But your stance on women pastors is wrong. Ephesians 5:23 states,. "For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the Saviour of the body." 1 Timothy 3:2, 12
"A bishop then must be blameless, the HUSBAND of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach. . . . Let the deacons be the HUSBANDS of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well."
tbursee 2 years ago
OK....(this is me shaking the dust)...i pray that God opens your understanding...
christizall 2 years ago
My understanding is as open as the grand canyon. so go pray for something else.
tbursee 2 years ago
now that sounds kind of like pride..its as open as the grand canyon? So does that mean it cannot be opened anymore? Well then sounds like you need to go and stand out in the middle of the freeway...cause your ready for glory...Go on and be with Jesus..
christizall 2 years ago
You can interpretate that any way you want to , but what you cant do is justify by the word of God , a female pastor. So get back to the subject and prove me wrong
tbursee 2 years ago
I'm sorry, but truth doesnt have to be justified, the bible is self authenticating...and neway you havent "justified" any thing, you've only spat out context specific scripture that prove nothing except your ignorance of the subject and of the scripture...
christizall 2 years ago
ok sir for the last time, show me chapter and verse , where the word pastor , or bishop was appended to a woman. Put up , or shut.
tbursee 2 years ago
See Gal. 3:28, Exodus 15:20: Miriam, the sister of Aaron was a prophetess;
Philippians 4:2: Paul refers to two women, Euodia and Syntyche, as evangelists; Romans 16:7: Junia as "outstanding among the apostles. English is no the orig. langauge. The two names (Andronicus and Junias) are in the accusative form (they are recipients of the verb greet), the second name appears as Junian, which is the accusative form of the feminine name Junia. (Hence a FEMALE)
rbanderson2 2 years ago
Rbanderson2 I'm still waiting for you to find the female pastor. Those scriptures you made reference to prove nothing. I'm looking for a female PASTOR , a female SHEPHARD.
tbursee 2 years ago
@tbursee I see you have no real purpose in your life but to harass youtube about women preachers. Tell you what I see you so much that all i will do is pray for you that you gain a real purpose because if u didnt like what you heard you would not be listening. your on so many places leaving comments. keep going cause God's got a word for you and you know its good lol! The devil in you just wont admit to it right now. But I praying for your deliverance in the name of Jesus!!
fkn02 2 years ago
If you think God called a woman to shephard his flock, you're the one that needs deliverance. I think I'll put together my own series of vidoes on this subject in the near future, stay tuned.
tbursee 2 years ago
Respectfully Tbursee, you are looking at this from a logos prespective without rhema. Eph. 5:23 is stating "Husband is head (kephalē) or the first to go into battle of the wife as Christ is the first one to go into battle for the church. Paul did not use the greek word arche. You base your arguements on Paul and not on what God has said. See Joel 2:28, Gen. 1:28. Lastly, a bishop is an administrative function, not 5-fold ministry. Shephard (poimēn) is literal and metaphorical Eph. 4:11
rbanderson2 2 years ago
Well irregardless of where you think I'm looking at it from, you still have not found a female pastor. Seems to me if your interpretation was correct ,there would be at least one in the book.
tbursee 2 years ago
tbursee i said what i said and im not debating about it!!!
lovegodess25 2 years ago
once again we have a hater in the midst!!!
lovegodess25 2 years ago
if you think I'm hating, then find a female pastor in the bible, or hold your peace.
tbursee 2 years ago
Apphia, Philemons wife was the pastor of the church in their house.....so umm hold your peace....
christizall 2 years ago
No Miss , no she was'nt
tbursee 2 years ago
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Can anyone show me a female pastor in the bible? And second of all , we are not caught up in the air to meet Jesus, the bible says he touches down on a mountain. And the reason why those statistics you quote are true, is because big mouth rebellous women have replaced men in the home, just like they have in the church.
tbursee 2 years ago
This is exactly what us young people need to hear these days!
MissDiva91 2 years ago
I hear the Sounds of her Mother... Preach!!!
bestofthenewsouth 2 years ago
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Does anybody care what the bible says any more???
1Cr 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
DUHhhhhh !!!
hugiaino 2 years ago
Another Ray family classic 4 the glory of God! Chicago stand up!!!!!!!
joshuaofjericho 2 years ago
God knows we need more sanctified women like this to talk to our youth and wake them up before its too late. A job well done, Pastor Denise Ray!
SubmissiveWill 3 years ago
CO-Pastor Denise came to our church last yr and she had a prophetic message from God to me. She is a awesome woman of God. If anyone has a opportunity to go here her speak, do not let it pass you by.
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IBELONG2HIM2 3 years ago
Preach truth Co PASTOR DENISE!!!!!
lovegodess25 3 years ago
Preach pastor niecy.
joyjoydrum 3 years ago
This is the way the Evangelist and preachers preached back in my day... The raw Word of God! Preach Co-Pastor. And they use to dress up in holiness. Love it!!
anointedtoserve 3 years ago 2
when i came to this conference and she spoke she really had me thinging about my life in a different perspective and I left a changed person.
Mz16Diva 3 years ago
C'mon Pastor ray,it's the truth. Let's prove statistics wrong.
gozpel21 3 years ago
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IBELONG2HIM2 3 years ago