The Nightline Face-Off: Does God Have a Future? (4 of 12)

[random5241]

arrogance would taking the scientific methodology as a philosophy rather then simply a methodology, at least offhand.

[johnjsal]

Did she ever really make a point that involved being a woman??

[ceojas]

wtf is that woman talking about??

[AdNeeb]

Jean is completely incoherent.

[ColoreddLightss]

Dear commenters, you guys are awesome.

[tobo86]

From left to right: wise man, another wise man, host, bullshitter, unbelievably rambly waffler

[tobo86]

Oh my god, I want to take lessons in how to ramble from that woman. Hands down world champion.

[reznor12]

She can avoid a question better than a politician, it boggles the mind.

[machib77]

Michael Shermer is admirable

[jaimesthesaint]

3:45 That's nice, crazy cat lady, but I was actually wondering if you had anything to say that was... uh... relevant to the current discussion.

[jaimesthesaint]

Epic facepalm at 2:02

[writersblock26]

Thank you for posting this, AtheistMediaBlog.

[Amsah]

What the fuck is she talking about..? No, seriously..

[godfathercherry]

Crazy Cat lady starts talking at 2:15, stops at 5:30

[FreeMindedAthiest]

Stop her fuckin PLEASE!!!!! I am rolling!

[Mahdai]

That Deepak dude...what the fudge is he ON?

[orbital92hotmail]

This audience claps at anything.

[orbital92hotmail]

Jean is out of her depth and should not be involved.

[orbital92hotmail]

Deepak = owned.

[NoahDanielson]

Sam Harris is the only one who knows what he is talking about.

[mrgarlicbread100]

deepak must have nearly killed himself when he heard Jean Houston was on his team....

You can't win with that arguing your case

[unprovablegod]

Michael Shermer used Facepalm! - It's Super Effective!

[NLarsen1989]

1:55 was absolutely hilarious

[Hayleyfire929]

"I'm listening as a woman" - me too and I don't think I'm seeing this as you do, lady...

[TheTexanCanadian]

GOD is woo woo.

[logsdonj]

Deepak Chopra is so full of shit.

[abuliberalee]

Jean, I'd be fascinated to hear you say a single fuckin thing that makes even a modicum of coherent sense.

[godfreewoman]

My status as a second class citizen has been solidified, reinforced, [INSERT WORD THAT INDICATES THAT I AM FUCKED HERE]. Way to go Jean! She puts the MOTHER in M-O-T-H-E-R-F-U-C-K-E-R

[cygnusx555]

that woman is retarded....

[DrErkencho]

@cygnusx555

I would say high on meth but... yeap

[markjamesnelson]

"I'm listening as a woman" way to reinforce an absurd stereotype you stupid [non gendered word synonymous with bitch]

[jokkjokkjokk]

WHAAAAAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUU CK IS THAT WOMAN TALKING ABOUT?!?!?! LMAO.

[justjulie37]

I love Sam. He makes so much more sense than a lot of these people do. I find Deepak very rude during most of this debate. Sam is always so calm, cool & collected. I like his last line in this video. He is absolutely right. Shouting your opinion doesn't make it more true

[justjulie37]

Why the fuck did they choose this woman to represent women? Good grief........please please don't think all women are this ignorant and misguided. Some of us actually use our brains

[kelbykross1]

Nudity at a science conference, Mr. Harris? You just wait!

[rossta88]

Dude....wth is she talking about

[OyonTheAdept]

LOL. Deepak and Jean are getting owned sooo badly right now, it's just hilarious.

[Moreviolent]

Jean...hunny, darling, sweetheart, sugarpie...GTFO

[880330145789]

it would take a lot of concentration to even begin to try to understand what she is saying

[zerozero1zerozero100]

jean is a typical woman..she wants to have her conversation rather than a conversation

[Zeuts85]

"Listening as a woman." I think she meant to say "moron" there, because if she believes that her sex has any relevance whatsoever to the topic at hand, she is definitely short a few brain cells.

[JovialJewels]

As a woman (hold for applause) and as a female scientist, I think this woman is just rambling and I am a bit upset that she seems to think she speaks for most women.

[christinemarkley]

I kept hoping Sam or Michael would walk over and back-hand those two goddamned idiots.

[JoeyMarvelous07]

This is about as organized a debate as an alcohol soaked shouting match.

[test123ok]

So Deepak and Bill O'Reilly have sort of the same belief :

Don't look at the moon ....tide goes out

Look at the moon .... tide comes in

[sonykroket]

@test123ok

LMAO brilliant

[phayzedjaymz]

@4:14 - What the fuck am I talking about?

[yackon4game]

On to #5... Here's hoping Deepak takes a hint and settles the fuck down.

Lets take a look!

[sonykroket]

Deepak deserves a nice IRS visit

[test123ok]

@sonykroket I so agree !! I was thinking of campaigning to get him on trial for the robbery he's doing with his books.

[vmanisham]

I think the organizer had called wrong people on this stage to justify If God exist or not? According to me Michael Crimo can give quite a good answer with clear evidence regarding God.

[dsjoakim35]

Holy rambling pudgy magic amulet wearing orangutang face having old parrot Batman!

[biologicalbubble]

"God has a future but I'm not sure the human race does"...What other animal contemplates God ?...

[tapasoflife]

Jean Houston is lost to the idea of staying on topic...and she covers her ignorance with big words...

[code933k]

@tapasoflife Which she doesn't understand neither connects.

[H4NN1B4LCL]

An ego and temper on deepok

[PratikShukla82]

A nice Hitchslap would be in order for Deepak...

Thumbs up anyone?

[sonykroket]

@PratikShukla82

As we speak

[sonykroket]

Deepak and Jean are the type of idiots who hijack the debate by saying theyre all about loving people and you're not if you dont agree with them

Very nasty tactic

[mmissinglink]

Deepak is clueless

[FreethinkingFun]

"the spiritual meta-technologies and processes of many different cultures and states of mind" Complete and utter nonsense

[fatpeoplemotivation]

Where is Niel Degrasse Tyson?

[sylviabombs15]

I REALLY ENJOYED JEANS TALK!!

She made perfect sense. She is a PHD in molecular biology, quantum physics, and cosmology combined! SHE IS HANDS DOWN THE SMARTEST PERSON ON THAT STAGE! You all just cant understand her because she is on another level than you guys. She has reached enlightenment. And I am in awe of her beauty and grace. Like a butterfly, she flips and flaps away the logic of sam harris in a never ending dance. She is....THE JEANANATOR!

I'd love to tap that spiritual pussy of jeans

[sylviabombs15]

Who invited jean??!!

I want whatever drugs she is on!!

[Spaceman2451]

2:01 I was doing the same thing as Michael Shermer.

[Zabatsion]

jean is lost, hahahahaaaa, , she seems craving for attention, is she here on by the " equal opportunity rule" she talk abou as women , gender

[lcsglvr]

Haha, Shermer's , "what does that mean" sums up the entire debate.

[lcsglvr]

I just want to be friends with the cat lady. I don't understand what she says, but that doesn't matter when I'm watching her - she's more like a car wreck and you're rubbing necking for a glimpse [of sanity].

[manmadesounds]

Surprise, those not in the know - Deepak Chopra is a dick!

[cristianfcao]

Hearing the "cat lady" (LOL) reminded me of a quote by English physicist Paul Dirac:

“In science one tries to tell people, in such a way as to be understood by everyone, something that no one ever knew before. But in poetry, it's the exact opposite.”

[FixtaFernback]

Stop fucking clapping!

[circusOFprecision]

Democracy is a scientific experiment? No Michael, it's a human experiment. Science is also a human experiment. Backwards thinking by the materialists.

[ludogogo]

@circusOFprecision Why don't you elaborate... because your statement doesn't make sense.

[circusOFprecision]

@ludogogo

Why doesn't it make sense...to you?

[ludogogo]

@circusOFprecision

Because "human experiment" doesn't mean anything... of course it is an experiment performed by a human... it sure as hell wasn't performed by an elephant.

[circusOFprecision]

@ludogogo

Yes it does mean something, something significant actually. It means that it WASN'T performed by nature (elephants or piles of crap or whatever you want to fixate upon), or anything else for that matter, outside the context of human experience.

[ludogogo]

@circusOFprecision You're making a moot point... of course it isn't an experiment performed by nature... Nature does not perform experiments; in fact, I would go out on a limb here and say that as far as we know... only humans perform experiments... so calling it a human experiment is unnecessary.

[circusOFprecision]

@ludogogo

It is quite necessary to make my point. The point is that science is a human enterprise, not an objective narrative of reality, although we hope, as much it is possible, that it science is telling us something objective. Human experience is the true narrative of reality, as subjective as it may be.

[ludogogo]

@circusOFprecision Science is a human enterprise, but at its core, is not affected by bias; namely because it is self-refuting. Human experience is as much of a narative of reality as our perceptions, bias, and conjectures allow. Humans make mistakes and are prone to flawed perception... which can logically affect our perception of our own experiences. There is no way to verify human experience as genuine which seriously dampers its credibility of correctly narrating reality.

[hYdEdesign]

way to waste a third of a good debate by explaning the douche deepak what his words actually mean in oppose of what he wants people to think they mean... shame

[proprodigySD]

"...as opposed to what? Just calling it fuzzy words?" And then his, 'What the fuckity fuck fuck' face while Chopra waffled about the moon at 2:03. Ah, Shermer. My hero. I joined the skeptic society and paid for a subscription to your magazine just for that outburst of, "The moon?!"

[sylviabombs15]

@proprodigySD This is the best comment in the entire history of the intranets.

I too pee'd in my pants when I heard him say "THE MOON?!?" I couldn't stop laughing!!!!

LOLTHE MOON???!!

[Rationalreason777]

After listening to Jean I think we should seriously consider taking the vote away from women.

Sorry! Terrible joke.

[Leoaaex]

"The world mind is going for a walk with its self". That is the most convoluted sentence I have ever heard.

[imbeingsirius]

I just fast-foward through the Jean shit.

[carovski]

im cringing that they chose this person to represent women, or humans at that...

[laflugantabastardo]

@0d12m23

She clearly tried to introduce a new point by saying that, trying to pull the conversation in a completely different direction than Deepack's nonsense. Not with much success, though.

[laflugantabastardo]

"In the absence of a conscious entity the moon remains a radically ambiguous and ceaselessly flowing quantum soup."

What. The. Hell?

[macgeek2004]

@VincetOniaVerit

That's why I like watching things like the "Beyond Belief" videos more. Because that's geared nit for the general audience, but for their fellow scientists/intelligent and literate atheists. I mean, laughing at dumb religious people is fun for a while, but I still like having my head blown every once in a while!

Oh, BTW: you want the best of both worlds? On YouTube there's tape of a debate between 'Dr.' William Lane Craig and Dr. LAWRANCE KRAUSS! You kno, the guy who discover

[macgeek2004]

Well, I'm speaking as a dude and if you need any help w/that... ;~) lol, j/k!

[MarsyasX1]

I'm speaking as a woman and I'm hellbent on representing women as fucking retards.

[VincitOmniaVerit]

The thing I absolutely abhor about these debates is that complicated subjects are brought up which cannot possibly be explained in a matter of minutes, much less quantum physics. This is hard even for college graduates and professors much less the general public, which is why many are left more confused than when they started watching the debate

[dasschleg]

I love how everyone ignores Jean.

[wingsNthighs]

cat lady totally slows down the debate....but i couldn't help but laugh every time her crazy ass opened her mouth lol

[one111eleven1one11]

Double facepalm 2:01 

[YY4Me133]

@2:10 "I want to hear the sounds of Jean."

You're the only one who feels that way.

@8:46 "Making that statement without qualifying it, without giving any proof of it..."

That's not how it works. Claims that are not supported by evidence can be dismissed without discussion. If Chopra expects people of science to take him seriously, he's going to have to give them something to work with.

[Keating950]

2:03 sums it all up.

[gerandomiseerd]

She just offended all intelligent women by pretending to speak for them.

[mowgli123456789]

oh....this was a jean part. wish someone warned me, i woulda skipped it

[mistermacdude]

Everything Jean says is utterly incomprehensible. I honestly can't follow a single word she says in this whole debate.

[mrgimp420]

"Im listening as a woman" *clap clap clap*

What the fuck where they clapping for???  I got a penis between my legs. *clap clap clap*

[thepalebludot]

@mrgimp420 hhhahhaha

[Hollander113]

Why aren't Sam and Michael saying anyting about Jean Houston's woo woo?

every time Deepak says something he gets bitchslapt, but when she does the same they are both silent...

[sonykroket]

@Hollander113

That's because the last resort of hags like her is accusing people of being sexists when she would meet opposition.

[onejo578]

ffs, this would be a far better argument without Jean. Everytime they're on the verge of unquestionably putting Deepak in his place, she chirps up with mysticism and shit. So frustrating. If only Sam and Micheal were a little less polite (queue Christopher Hitchens? yeahhhhhh)

[ChollieD]

2:15 "I'm listening as a woman..." Jean, your sex does not entitle you to a different physics. Real female physicists do exactly the same math as the guys.

[brendakim1111]

Deepak is a charlatan who makes a living off of desperate uneducated people, if i were in congress I would propose a bill to have these fools pun in jail.

[bgupta2001]

request you to from the time ancient ,puranic times ,there may be mistake of one or two persons .mistakes would have been due to bad wisedom or bad fate and could not come out of sins which made sinner .at those time itself mistakes would have rectified and proper steps would have taken for betterment that mistakes should not be repeated .there would have been no bad happenings..

[bgupta2001]

is god is resopnsible for bad happenings or some conspirancies ---------peoples who are said to be responsible and culprit are really culptit why they could nopt become good like you ?

[bgupta2001]

what is the name of god in hindu and christian myth -------Does God Have a Future? ------ is god almighty or was a human with good qualities and respected -----if their is a quastion for god -- then other peoples even gods children , then who is saviou for every one inculing god ?

[teamhumanity]

That's what a so called rationalist woukd say, open your mind, there is like a thick wall that cannot penertrate it. Have a look at J Krishnamurti teachings. :)

[cherylsalo]

That woman talks and talks and talks, but says NOTHING!

[teamhumanity]

What Deepak is saying makes perfect obvious sense to a mind that has moved beyond conceptual, linear/dualistic thinking. You see the paradigm 'empirical testing is the only way to understand truth' is just one mental perspective. If one only see from this then of course it won't make sense. But truth can be seen through direct observation called insights. This is a direct seeing without beliefs. Teachings of the Buddha, Zen, Jiddu Krishnamurti and Professor David Bohm are examples of this.

[DxMxK]

@teamhumanity utter bullcrap, not debating on this

[BillKiernan]

without an observer the moon is a quantum soup hahahaha HAHAHHAH hahahahahAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAH

[brendakim1111]

Fuck your inner experience asshole !

People like this should be in jail, telling scientifically people lies and taking their money, you are a thief and a fraud Dipak.

[hitmenphoenix]

Why is the cat lady speaking?

[srivathsa92]

WHY DOES HE KEEP ASKING JEAN TO TALK WTFFFFF

[redskin133]

why are harris shermer even bothering to debate these fuckwits?

[teamhumanity]

It's funny that the rationalists don't understand what the post-rationalists are saying, so they have to resort to insults inorder to protect their intellectual identities.

[InsanoGerbil]

Watch the faces of the debaters as it scrolls past them when shes talking. They all look brain dead from her inane chat!!

[imita01]

On the record, I'm an Atheist.

[imita01]

The best explanation for our interconnected relationship with the cosmos is the following: we have found DNA in meteorites.. And testing revealed adenine and guanine were present which are the two FUNDAMENTAL components of DNA called nucleobases. Specifically, CM2 meteorites. So, Yes we are connected with our cosmos scientifically, but to say some intelligent-being has done this? Well, you need empirical evidence to push for that Mr. Chopra, and you did not provide that. This life is it.

[aabulow2]

"Saying it louder and relentlessly is just not going to make it true"

Sam is hilarious I love how he just tares Deepak apart!

[JohannesAckermann]

"I'm listening as a woman"?????? WTF DOES THAT MEAN?!!!! Please re-upload the video with this crazy bitch filtered out. Everything she says is pointless. Deepak is not far behind, but at least his ignorance is slightly entertaining: Micheal's eye-rolling would not be as funny without Depaak's rants.

[bryanrules0000]

cat lady is a trip... did they clean up some crazy lady in the bingo hall and give her a dress and a bottle of brandy and told her to show em what you got?

[ScaryEskimo]

@bryanrules0000 LMFAOOOO BAHAHAAHAAA!!!!

[thetwentyteens]

@bryanrules0000

hahaha.

[jaederi]

@bryanrules0000 hilarious, bro! hilarious

[ViperRob42]

LOL at Shermers facepalm at 2:02

[Johnnybeak]

I dont think, I know for sure that God does not exist... and Thank God he does not exist - Osho

[steelstan39]

It seems like you could find Jean in a house late at night with a crystal ball on the table in front of her and christmas lights strung up all around. Wat a nut. Deepak, could you really not find somebody to spare with you that has never seen the inside of a mental hospital?

[wheresmywhiskey85]

perception of reality, is reality....for that person perceiving it...reality is reality, regardless of whos perceiving it, regardless of what mind thinks it, if there were no minds to think or be aware of reality, reality is still there, facts are facts, regardless of whos perceiving it or contemplating it, you cant change reality as a whole, in the slightest, by your perception of it, your perception can only change

[wheresmywhiskey85]

@wheresmywhiskey85 this was in response to chopras moon being or not being there

[thewildplaces]

It seems that both sides can agree on quite a few things about god - that god is not a white man in the sky and so on - but Chopra is so defensive. He is either aggressive or passive-aggressive, while the other three are mostly assertive.

[thewildplaces]

As I woman, I fucking hate it when other women try to make a point by starting with "as a woman." 

[en0tjh]

Jean you're killing me, shut the F*** up!

[Catz1985]

"Deepak, saying it louder and relentlessly is not going to make it true!" I love Harris!

[doyoublush]

that Deepak is really making me angry... what is the man thinking? if he is thinking at all...

[SylG73]

Deepak had me until he quote mined Hawking and Einstein.

[outlaw87100]

Listen very carefully Deepak: YOU'RE NOT A FUCKING THEORETICAL PHYSICIST

[codownni]

Why does that lady keep speaking, especially when Deepinshit is about to get annihilated?.

[jklimtsc]

If you could reason with religous people, there would be no religous people - Gregory house

[daskalaka]

I think Jeans got the wrong night.

[bhmrhabie]

first off i haven't heard either side answer the question...second off isn't the question the answer? Wouldn't we know gods future because of our past. "God" evolves with time, certain situations are more predominant then others at any given time.

[lerisper]

Deepak's work is the pinnacle of pseudoscience.

[kjrunia]

Would have loved to see Tim Minchin and Richard Feynman on this stage too.

[kjrunia]

Deepak: "In the absence of a conscious entity the moon remains a radically ambiguous and ceaselessly flowing quantum soup." Boy, this guy is the embodiment of a comedian/idiot duality.

[iansaidhi]

2:02 Facepalm

2:05 Double Facepalm

[jscottupton]

At any point do they talk about "good" and "evil" ? If there is no evil then there is no good. God is the spirit of goodness. The details of god can't be known because we are finite beings and god is infinite. Finite beings can't comprehend the infinite. If there is no "evil" then Hitler and his ideas are just as valid as anyone's.

[rjc34]

@jscottupton You speak with as much woo-woo as Chopra himself. Good job.

[ThePaddy1122]

the reason her "im listening as a woman" line got some applause was because its the only meaningful thing she's said!

[influenztial]

Skip to 5:30 when that insufferable woman begins talking.

[tpr007]

Deepak Chopra: "The moon is a ceaselessly flowing quantum soup."

I then punch him in the face. In my dream. A quantum soup of a dream. Cock

[wownov83]

The moderator is an absolute tool....

[WowThisWasntTaken]

That woman is SO FUCKING STUPID!!!!!

[millrice]

thumbs up if you skipped jean's talk

[thescorpionking2020]

deepak is retarded

[itsonelouder1]

save your sanity, skip the daft old bint

[iowntwocats]

Where did they find this crazy bitch lololol

omggg she says the most meaningless shit.

[chokweet]

"...saying it louder and relentlessly is not going to make it true." haha, for the lulz. Sam said it best, Deepak's ego just gets louder and louder.

[esc0barrr]

Deepak just keeps gettin shut up over and over