The collective weight of scientific evidence has found homeopathy to be no more effective than a placebo.[2][3][4][5][6]
^ a b c d e Ernst, E. (2002), "A systematic review of systematic reviews of homeopathy", British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology 54 (6): 577–82, doi:10.1046/j.1365-2125.2002.01699.x, PMC 1874503, PMID 12492603
^ a b c d e f UK Parliamentary Committee Science and Technology Committee - "Evidence Check 2: Homeopathy"
The collective weight of scientific evidence has found homeopathy to be no more effective than a placebo.[2][3][4][5][6]
^ a b c d Altunc, U.; Pittler, M. H.; Ernst, E. (2007), "Homeopathy for Childhood and Adolescence Ailments: Systematic Review of Randomized Clinical Trials", Mayo Clinic Proceedings 82 (1): 69–75, doi:10.4065/82.1.69, PMID 17285788, "However, homeopathy is not totally devoid of risks… it may delay effective treatment or diagnosis"
The collective weight of scientific evidence has found homeopathy to be no more effective than a placebo.[2][3][4][5][6]
^ a b c d e Ernst, E. (2002), "A systematic review of systematic reviews of homeopathy", British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology 54 (6): 577–82, doi:10.1046/j.1365-2125.2002.01699.x, PMC 1874503, PMID 12492603
^ a b c d e f UK Parliamentary Committee Science and Technology Committee - "Evidence Check 2: Homeopathy"
He is giving such a clear explanation. It is such shame that most people here are rubbishing everything he has to say... Saying that it has been "scientifically disproven" is not correct. Rather than just making such a simple (and very damaging statement) follow this man's advice, and look up the authoritative references he has listed
I think Dr. Bhatia is an authority whose opinion matters but I'm not saying that there is room for abuse with homeopathic which may be a reason to protest and make people aware - maybe Bhatia is missing the point.
In 1989 there was a double blind, placebo-controlled study done on 487 influenza patients who had been referred by 149 different doctors. Over half who were given the homeopathic remedy called oscilloccoccinum recovered from the flu within 48 hours. The Lancet was not only impressed with the results but by how well the study was conducted. The study was published in the British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology in 1989.
Research data is available in The Lancet Linde, K. et al. (1997). "Are the clinical effects of homeopathy placebo effect? A meta-analysis of placebo-controlled trials." Lancet vol. 350 pp. 834-843. The trend of the studies is that homeopathy is effective above placebo and requires further study.
1:13 "Somebody has to tell them that homeopathy doesn't work..." THERE!! STOP!! That's all you needed to say. You were correct at that point, the rest of the video is unnecessary.
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Arsenic concentrations in drinking water were normal but arsenic concentrations in samples of the homeopathic medications were elevated-See Clinical Toxicology
@greasegunx Distilled water had been through the same preparation procedure as the homeopathic antidote by Indian scientists and was found not to work for liver toxicity induced by arsenic in mice;whereas the homeopathic antidote (based on arsenic oxide) reduced the liver toxicity.
Thanks for this video. I'm severely allergic to antibiotics, so my Cambridge graduated GP,who is also trained to prescribe homeopathic remedies, prescribed me with these safer alternatives. I've also saved an abscessed tooth using homeopathy, along with many other ailments and have successfully treated my son's asthma. I'm now using homeopathy on my pets and researching how homeopathy is used on plants.
Thanks for this video. I'm severely allergic to antibiotics, so my Cambridge graduated GP,who is also trained to prescribe homeopathic remedies, prescribed me with these safer alternatives. I've also saved an abscessed tooth using homeopathy, along with many other ailments and have successfully treated my son's asthma. I'm now using homeopathy on my pets and researching how homeopathy is used on plants.
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Thanks for this video. I'm severely allergic to antibiotics, so my Cambridge graduated GP,who is also trained to prescribe homeopathic remedies, prescribed me with these safer alternatives. I've also saved an abscessed tooth using homeopathy, along with many other ailments and have successfully treated my son's asthma. I'm now using homeopathy on my pets and researching how homeopathy is used on plants.
@Amygdala100 allergic to every kind of antibiotics? homeopathy doesn't work, it's been proven over and over again, i'm afraid you're a "victim" of the placebo effect.
@Nydracommander Blinkered opinions will only result in fewer freedoms for the masses. You are one who is a” victim” of propaganda. Thanks to my “conventional” doctor, who has liberated me; I will continue to use the medicine of heads of state, royalty and world elite people. I’ve illuminated myself with the “accurate knowledge,” above and beyond your mumbo jumbo.
@Amygdala100 it's not an opinion, it's scientifically proven homeopathy doesn't work. freedom has nothing to do with it, it's about what is true and what isn't. homeopathy is mumbo jumbo and any sincere person who is educated in medicine knows and comfirms this. yes placebo's can lighten symptoms, but they do not resolve the underlying cause. thanks for trying though
@Nydracommander Mr Echo of propaganda, it’s well known that many “conventional” drugs don’t treat the root causes of illness, that’s where homeopathy has succeeded, when these drugs have failed. Animals and plants have no expectations of medicines; they do not display the placebo effect. Humans anticipate the healing but plants and animals don't.
@Amygdala100 i suggest you look into placebo effect. it is well known that plavebo also works on children, animals etc. it's a common misconception that it doesn't. there's an overly clear and undenyable consensus about homeopathy: studies have shown that it does not work. benefits gained were at most equal to the placebo control group in every major study. homeopathy never cuers the root of the problem. actual medicine has drugs that can treat symptoms and roots.
@Nydracommander Different effects can be created in animals by differential handling, and handling can result in animals healing more quickly or more slowly, depending on the amount of stress placed on the animal -- but that is not a "placebo" effect, it is an environmental effect and a stress effect (positive or negative).
@Amygdala100 again, i suggest you look up what placebo effect means. It includes the different treatment, emotions and handling of sick animals, and the same principle applies to humans/children. placebo is a non-specific benefit effect. but here's the catch: normal drugs and treatment also invoke an important placebo effect, ON TOP of the normal effect they produce. Hundreds of studies have shown that homeopathy only offers placebo effects, and is thus the same as giving an inert substance.
@Nydracommander Placebo effect doesn't work on plants and animals;whereas homeopathy does and I've researched enough to see the clinical trials where placebo verses homeopathy. Statistically, homeopathy works better than placebo! Therefore, homeopathy is not "placebo." Research the work being done with plants.Plants do not respond to placebo effects although, they respond to homeopathy.
@Amygdala100 why do you make me repeat myself? placebo does work on animals and plants. Also: meta-analyses of well performed, large scale homeopathy studies have shown no difference between homeopathy and placebo. On top of that, homeopathy working would violate fundamental laws of chemistry and one of the basic principles of medicine: dose dependant effects. if homeopathy did actually work, it would be widely used in hospitals. But it doesn't work, i'm sorry if you really believed in it.
@Nydracommander Don't lie; it's been officially reported that within the UK alone 70% of patients have been made well through homeopathic medicine. Patient satisfaction discredits your comments. We don't need the petrolchemical industry to rule us with their toxic druggery and money greed, whilst heads of state and royalty are recipients of the best medicine in the world.
@Amygdala100 'don't lie" uhmm..excuse me? i suggest you stop lying and inventing numbers. "70% of patients..." That's an outright lie. I suggest you consult the us national library of medicine (pubmed). i can't post articles, youtube cencors those links. why should i lie? i'm just stating what science has concluded. homeopathy does nothing more then placebo, it's proposed mechanisms contradict everything we know about chemistry and physics. that's just the way it is, i can't help it.
@Nydracommander The Bristol Homeopathic Hospital carried out a study published in November 2005 of 6500 patients receiving homeopathic treatment. There was an overall improvement in health of 70% of them. Research this it was published in the mainstream media here in the UK!!
@Amygdala100 i've looked into that "study" and is was horribly flawed in the most basics of scientific study: no randomization, no placebogroup, no baseline comparison. a recent review in the Lancet (one of the most prestigious scientific journals) of 110 homeopathy trials, showed that homeopathy is nothing more than placebo. i suggest you look it up on pubmed: "Are the clinical effects of homoeopathy placebo effects? Comparative study of placebo-controlled trials of homoeopathy and allopathy."
@Nydracommander 70% PATIENT SATISFACTION RATE, where the difficult to heal cases-individuals who have first sought conventional help-placebos wouldn’t help- when conventional drugs were used unsuccessfully; referrals to the Bristol Homeopathic Hospital are the chronic and complicated cases- they could no longer be helped by conventional drugs, so their GP’s refer these patients to other qualified doctors working within an NHS homeopathic setting-homeopathy is a success for the chronically ill!
@Nydracommander 70% PATIENT SATISFACTION RATE, where the difficult to heal cases-individuals who have first sought conventional help-placebos wouldn’t help- when conventional drugs were used unsuccessfully; referrals to the Bristol Homeopathic Hospital are the chronic and complicated cases- they could no longer be helped by conventional drugs, so their GP’s refer these patients to other qualified doctors working within an NHS homeopathic setting-homeopathy is a success for the chronically ill!
the whole point of placebo is fooling the pacient-so he wouldn't know if it is real med or sugar pill, therefore exploring the extent and power of pacient's suggestion.
@angomako you should really look these things up for yourself if you have such questions. Google and wikipedia are right there. There are many factors i can't all list here, look them up. in summary, placebo in animals and plants is due to how the handler treats the animal differently because it is sick. reporter bias is also present. placebo is a very general term and refers to any beneficial effect that occurs when any treatment is given, even if the treatment doesn't work.
The knee-jerk shunning of contemporary Homeopathy doesn't make faith-based ancient Allopathy medicine any more powerful or provable in the correct treatment and cure of chronic diseases.
My beliefs based on faith in Allopathy have been destroyed by the logic of Homeopathy:
In the late 1920's when many people thought that Homeopathy remedies had mystical effects, Nobel Laureate scientist Prof. Hans Von Euler conducted scientific tests to ascertain if Homeopathy had a scientific base.
One of the best testimonies of the efficacy of Homeopathy is the book:
"HOMEOPATHY CURES WHERE ALLOPATHY FAILS" written by an Allopathy medical doctor & surgeon.
In it he details many patients of chronic diseases who were getting worse with Allopathy drugs but were CURED once they switched to Homeopathy remedies.
Many of these patients were Allopathy doctors themselves.
There's no such thing as homeopathic "medicine," because it neither treats nor cures anything. It's quackery. There is no such thing as water memory, the Law of Similars is rubbish, and quacks ALWAYS claim that "you're doing it wrong" when you prove that their quackery is just that.
Clutching at straws, and short ones at that. Shows the studies that have been properly blinded, structured and had solid science, and that were repeated. False positives happen all the time in science.
Modern physics and other scientific diciplines have already transcended the age of "supermaterialism" and proved long, long ago that the decisive thing in this world is information and not what we call "the matter".
Instead of arguing and wasting time why don't you all study the books on Homoeopathy and read the testimonies of all those top Homoeopaths who were once top allopaths M.Ds before their conversion to Homoeopathy.
No one is pushing Homoeopathy down your throat by force.
Comments on the fly: Your example of a diabetic is giving the patient measurable quantities of a substance. Homeopathy has no measurable quantity of active ingredient. Also are you saying that glass of arsenic will only kill you if you are susceptible? If its individualised why is their generic remedies available? Just because its been around for 200yrs doesn't mean it works. Is slavery good because it was around for 1000s of years? What a hide - homeopaths charge $50 for 2cents worth of water.
Like so many alt-med crooks, this guy is just pulling this bullshit out of his arse. Never ceased to amaze me how much the proponents make shit up as they go along, and all the idiotic followers nod sagely.
Why don't you look at the records for cancer treatment at Banerji Clinic? They treat 1,200 cancer patients PER DAY with 70% benefit. They treat patients from all over the world including children who are too frail for chemical treatment. Isn't it nice to know these children can be treated and live? Didn't you know that per Dr. Roses, VP, GSK, conv cancer treatment is only effective in 25% -- yes, 25% -- of cases AND that's proven by their own records. Read The Independent, 12/8/03.
Pediatric oncologists from Columbia U visited Banerji and stated that they were impressed with the quality of life (i.e., freedom from symptoms and progress toward recovery) in children treated with homeopathy alone as compared to the same in children treated with surgery, radiation and chemo. In case you question this, pls bear in mind that Columbia is one of the most respected, prestigious US institutions. Their docs are among the most competent to judge.
Google 'Gloria Sam' to read how a curable case of eczema caused the death of 9mth old Gloria. Her homeopath father refused "conventional treatments" using homeopathy only as she wasted away, her hair turned white (she was on Indian descent) & her eyes melted from infection. Her parents are now in jail for this crime - using homeopathy is a death sentence.
"Do you earn an income from h......". Don't be ridiculous! My working life is composed of many years with IBM as a financial analyst. I'm retired now and studying art. I leave the study and practice of medicine to those who have an interest in it and aptitude for it.
P.S. Atheists like to make judgments about medicine based on their religion (and atheism is its own brand of religion). My point of view is that religion has nothing to do with medicine. Does that clarify things for you?
How do you explain tapwater ? It is effectively a homeopathic remedy with countless active ingredients. So we drink the cure for almost all illnesses every day - and i dont have to pay a charlatan for the privilege...
Find out how homeopathics are made and the science behind it. Then you won't be confused about "tap water". Next thing you'll be going on about a container 35 million times the size of earth...........
@den151redbank there is no science about making homeopathic 'cures'. Just be sure you have a bible handy to hit a bottle of water on. Simple dilution is not science.
@den151redbank Boots get money from gullible people. They have a nice safety net in that it is unlikely anyone will be poisoned by sugar or water.I dont think all 65 million 'Brits' buy sugar pills or water from Boots homeopathic range.
So Boots has NOT stopped selling homeopathics. Twice as many Brits use h. today as did 5 yrs ago. Why is this? Maybe because it works?
You haven't given your scientific or medical credentials or discussed your own work upon which you base your OPINIONS. Why not?
Why don't you read the work of Nobel Prize winners like Luc Montagnier and the work of renowned scientists like Roy, Tiller, Bell, Conte, LaVergne, and Berliocchi. I think it carries more weight than your uninformed opinions.
Also the added bonus for Boots is that unlike real medicine they don't have to spend all that time & money researching & testing homeopathy. Homeopathy is the medical equivalent of the emperors new clothes.
a person who is compaign against homoepathy they a BROKER of gaint phamaceutical company. they have been given huge bribe to speak against homoeopathy.they don,t know abt homoeopathy.wat they speak.pls this is my hible request to u people that come to india and first qualified the entrance examination to studay homoeopathy and do studay 5and 1/2 yrs then speak my DEAR USELESS COMPAIGNER.
Number of Nobel Laureate Scientists(Prof.Hans Euler Chemistry 1930, Prof. Brian D.Josephson Physics 1973 & Prof. Luc Montagnier Physiology/Medicine 2009) who have proven the efficacy of high dilutions: 3
Number of (Nobel Laureate) flat-earth-PSEUDOscientists-wi th-a-hidden-agenda who have disproven the efficacy of high dilutions: NIL
Where are all these bloody papers that you are talking about??Where is the research??
If you have proved anything at all, why you haven't earned the nobel prize for physics proving the memory of water??
Science my friend is something you will never understand, however science is large enough to have allowed even people like you to survive and talk all this nonsence against it..
Having made your point that a Homeopathic remedy is only a trigger to a person that is in perceptible state, what exactly is the trigger in the preparation. Since there is nothing in it, I fail to understand what exactly is the compound that triggers the improvement in the patient ?
A Quick web search of any homoeopathic remedy usually comes up with about 30 ailments that are supposedly treated by one of these "remedies" a lot of which are so vague that it would be hard to NOT have at least a couple of the complaints. so logically most people would be suseptable to almost all "remedies" IF they actually worked.
but as they are just shook up water evaporated on a sugar pill no one was effected by their "overdose" just as no one is effected by the reccomended dose.
I just couldn't finish it- sometimes an argument is just so badly put, and with nothing but poor anecdotal biased evidence that trying to debate the obvious truth is pointless, this guy will believe any old shit as long as it's based on the supernatural. And that was one of the most boring non-arguements for mystical bullshit I've ever heard.
Science is about observing phenomena and then hypothesising explanations for how the phenomena works.
Homeopathy and its proponents already have their explanations (some of which contradict each other) and are desperately looking for the effect - 200 years later...
This is the exact opposite of science, it's sympathetic magic and it's amazing that in the 21st century, we're still arguing about it...
Susceptible??? Dr Quack do you mean stupid enough to hand over money for nothing. I have problems sleeping and participated in the 10 23 overdose. I overdosed on sleeping medication so I would have been very susceptible. Zero effect. Why?
@devchugani - In the interests of truth etc - please cite your source i.e. where we can read a proper account of this alleged cure. Just claiming it don't make it so. This perhaps is the difference between medicine and things like homeopathy. Medicine can PROVE cures work.
@nsheikhani "Lack of knowledge or understanding of any science does not falsify the existence or efficacy of the discipline" - no, but decades of double blined scientific trials proves homeopathy doesn't work.
Of course he did, that's why it was published in a scientific journal, or written about in newspapers ... I believe homeopathy might help with colds and so on BUT never never take it for serious illnesses like leukemia, cancer and aids its just BS and endangers people's lives
Thank you for giving your ignorant, uneducated opinion. Why don't you do some homework? You'd find out that homeopathy alone regresses brain tumor by 100%. And at very little cost to the patient. Given the rate of cancer today, the chances are very good that YOU will someday soon want the same for yourself.
@den151redbank dont you realise that if your claim was true then the number of patients in the world with brain tumours who would clamour for homeopathy is enormous. No genuine medicines would be used at all. WHy is this not the case ?
*sighs* I think @den151redbank will not be convinced otherwise, and it's a lost battle. Let's just hope he does not convince guillible people :( although stating it "shrinks brain tumors" probably won't , cause no one is that silly....
Where is the evience for this? Can you provide the doctors name, the patients name, some independant sources who can verify the patient actually had HIV with test results. Also test results post cure are required. Sorry but your say so is not evidence of anything.
Dr. Hannemann faced a similar situation when he introduced homeopathy to the world. The detractors were there then and the detractors are here today. Homeopathy has not only survived but grown in stature. Lack of knowledge or understanding of any science does not falsify the existence or efficacy of the discipline.
Homeopathy is based on a false belief that like cures like. This means that something that causes a headache is given to "cure" a headache. This is a false premise. Homeopathy denies germ theory as it is based on balancing humors. This is a false premise. At the time when Hannemann lived it was no more effective than other contemporary treatments but was a lot less harmful. But this was when people thought bad smells cause disease. Human lifespans have doubled since modern medicine developed.
What are the chances that all three hundred of the skeptics that overdose on homeopathic medicine aren't "susceptible" to it?
Whatsmore, if you can't determine who is and isn't susceptible to the "medicine" prior to taking it, then you can't show that it's any more effective than a placebo.
If You you really want to know if Homeopathy works go & study the subject. Homeopathy is a science & an art. I agree Homeopathic Medicine should NOT be sold over the counter, it has to be prescribed by a fully trained Practitioner. How many people have taken Antibiotics with no result? & many other drugs? If I were you i would be demonstrating about the mass over prescribing of chemical drugs not Homeopathics.
Of course, Samuel Hahnemann himself would be turning in his grave at the thought of homeopathy being sold in high street chemist shops. I'm sure you know that he said homoeopathic medicines can "never be dispensed by the apothecary without injury to the public."
No true homeopath would sanction the selling of homeopathic remedies by a chain store.
The presenter is missing the point of the demonstration, which is to embarrass Boots into being honest. Boots is stocking homeopathic remedies as if they were proper remedies and defends its decision to do so on the grounds of 'customer choice'. But Boots does not tell customers that the remedies contain no active ingredients and therefore depend on the faith of the consumer that they will work.
If I'd known there was nothing in them, I'd never have bought any.
Proof of the pudding is in the eating ,so chose what you want to do, you have freedom to chose but since the homoeopathic practitioners have the experiance in this medical sceince so please take precautions please read a few homoeopathic books and then proceed to exoeriment but have the necessary antidotes ready in case there is a reaction .
effects at concentrations below Avogadros number and repeated emphasis that some cures work for only specific people in specific circumstances is precisely the evidence we need to show homeopathy does not work. great job 'doctor'. You try to say diabetics are susceptible to sugar .. sugar is not a cure for diabetes. Yoiu are trying to discuss cures. Non sequitur. Own goal. You do not understand. If remedies do not work on the principle of quantity then why have different concentrations. 0/10 doc
I have been using homeopathy for four years. I have been healed of a stomach ulcer in 7 weeks. Before that, I was a bit cynical and thought it might be a placebo so I tried it on my cats and also on my baby grand daughter who eventually was healed of febrile convulsions. No it is not a placebo. It really works. In my family we have used homeopathy to heal ailments from the common cold, through swine flu all the way to cysts and depression.
that is truly tragic. in 7 weeks it'd fix itself up on its own. you had a clear-up of an ulcer during the time you started taking homeopathetics. just how does that prove that it is the homeopathy that made it go away?
I have been cured by homeopathy and so has my mother and my cat. That is why I became a homeopath. I think it is ok to be a skeptic but why are these people so violently opposed to homeopathy? There is so much hate here. I feel so sad about it.
The skeptics are two types of people. The first are people paid by big pharma to criticize homeopathy to the public. The second are atheists. The atheists campaign against homeopathy because it works on energy. This offends them because they think that if energy meds work it proves there is human spirit -- God. That's what this is all about. It's not about medicine at all. Just a bunch of people trying to protect their financial interests and their belief systems.
The use of homeopathy is growing every year around the world. Here in the US it's growing because Americans recognize and dislike the fact that conventional treatment leaves them with additional and more serious diseases than they had before treatment. Smart, young doctors here are turning to natural medicine like homeopathy because the best healing for their patients.
Idiotic arguments there. The list of logical fallacies in your comment is dense, presumably denser than your head.
1) ad populi - the growing market is no signifier of quality or efficacy
2) false dichotomy - the word conventional means nothing in this context, as it could just as easily apply to the alt med world given its current level of popularity
3) undisclosed premise - that all science based medicine creates serious side-effects. that is just a pure and simple lie
4) strawman - that natural is in opposition to science based medicine. strychnine, botulism toxin and cyanide are all "natural" too. A huge proportion of the "conventional" medicine uses the active ingredients found in plants.
You need to be 'suspectible' to placebos for them to work too. But not real medicine. Funny that. And the point you're missing: 10:23 is an awareness campaign: not a scientific proof. People have already disproven homeopathy's efficacy scientifically.
If they want to cause themselves to experience a proving, then do it right. Not take only one dose, because no matter how many pills they they take then it is still one dose!
I have used Homeopathy and found it to be amazingly effective. C potencies for acute symptoms and LM potencies for chronic symptoms have given me the best results. I've also experienced proof that taking a remedy that does not match my symptoms has absolutely NO effect, whereas the improvement when taking the remedy that matches the symptoms has been AMAZINGLY FAST and EFFECT.
"I've also experienced proof that taking a remedy that does not match my symptoms has absolutely NO effect, whereas the improvement when taking the remedy that matches the symptoms has been AMAZINGLY FAST and EFFECT. "
And of course you knew that before, didn't you? Placebo, wink wink.
Well a placebo is merely a sugar pill - nothing else - I took a remedy (made with a substance, not just sugar) it was one that did not match my symptoms and because of that it had no effect. I have cured food allergies completely through using the LM potencies - the ones whose symptoms matched my own. As for colds/flus - C potencies I have found to be the best solution, and LM potencies for chronic ailments such as food allergies.
Homeopathy ( like treating like) works. FULL STOP! If it is not treating symptoms that appear in the remedy's symptom picture, then of course it won't work. QED.
There is no point whatsoever in taking remedies randomly. The whole point is that the right remedy will work and the wrong one won't.
I have a distant cousin who is a vet homeopath on a farm.
@SueHom1 I think you're using "QED" in a specific way here. Normally it means you've just proven your argument - "this I have shown." What you've done here is you've set out what you believe and you've not shown anything.
Dr Bhatia gives a very convoluted talk here, using the word "susceptible" a lot. What he is basically saying is that it is a placebo. I don't think he understands his own words.
When he uses the word susceptible, he is using it in a very specific way. In other words you do not know what you are talking about and you have not listened properly or attentively to what he said. Homeopathy can work for acute illness and for chronic states. Arnica 200 given to an 11 year old child I know after she was knocked down by a bus. She told me next time I saw her that it was amazing and asked me what was in it! Two doses, pm and am, then she needed no more and felt fine.
But of course that would not be a randomised double blind trial. Many trials have been conducted that prove the efficacy of homoeopathy beyond placebo.
Hardnosed farmers often swear by homoeopathy, finding that hepar sulph given in drinking water considerably lowers the incidence of mastitis in cattle. Trials have been conducted where one half of a herd is given nothing in drinking water and the other group gets the medicine. The differences in mastitis levels are remarkable.
Aurum is a major depression remedy. If you take it when you are not depressed you may well lose the will to live. Be careful before making rash promises.
If you are going to test a remedy, go to a homeopath next time you feel unwell or have an accident. Then you will be given a remedy in the most appropriate potency for yourself and in the safest quantity. Don't risk your health!
Thankyou for expressing so clearly why this attention seeking plot is nothing other than silly nonsense.
For those of you who do not know any better, Dr Bhatia is a highly respected Indian Doctor who practices homoeopathy. When India gained her independence from Britain in 1947, he founding fathers had the foresight to recognise homoeopathy which is widely practiced. It is effective and inexpensive. Our loss is India's gain.
The only people who would respect "Dr" Bhatia is proponents of homeopathy.
In case you have some idiotic idea that he has just "blown the skeptics out of the water" he has given a self-contradictory, unsubstantiated and incomprehensible tirade about how special homeopathy is without have a shred of evidence to support his argument.
A heckler? Not really. I'm a leukaemia survivor who cares about health info. I've researched homeopathy extensively & find it extremely contradictory & unsupported by evidence. As for accusing me of taking away rights to choose. That's nonsense. Look at my posts on this very video. I say: "Nothing in 10:23 campaign takes away anyones freedom to choose. .... If someone wants to take ultra-diluted arsenic knowing what it is, & what it isn't that's fine."
If someone wants to take a 1000-..onth of a molecule of the Berlin Wall to treat feelings of isolation after they have the information, of course that's their right & choice."
So your accusation is false. Don't worry, I'll accept an apology graciously.
Homoeopathy is proved by Allopathic doctors mostly M.Ds. And a homoeopath even cured a case of H I V with a single dose free of charge can allopathy do that? And by taking homoeopathic medicines just like that will do harm only so be careful.
I find it interesting that when a Doctor issues a prescription, they also issue a list of foods and supplements not to take.
Look at blood thinners like coumadin, when the script is issued one is told to avoid garlic,onions and gingo. WHY? The Doctors answer, "Because they thin the blood also."
What's herbal medicine got to do with homeopathy? Homeopathy is the ultra-dilution & succussion of ingredients that cause a similar symptom you are trying to remedy. Well those are the 'principles' anyway.
Since there is no molecule of active ingredient in a homeopathic 'remedy' to what does your talk of garlic matter?
A lot. Herbal remedies are often given homoeopathically and below the limit of Avogadro's number. Some years ago I took hypericum, the herbal remedy St John's Wort, but in a potency where molecules are present. I had sliced between too fingers and the wound was dirty. The hospital told me it was too late to stitch and made me another appointment since they expected the wound to quickly become septic. When they examined it four days later, there was no wound- it had healed almost without scar.
Ta for the response Kevin, but forgive me for not being too impressed by an anecdote of a finger slice healing in 4 days. If you had 2 identical slices, and treated each with a cream (one without the hp) -you were bling to which was which- and one sealed dramatically faster- then there's a *starting* point of research.
Regardless of Avogardo's number there's a BIG problems with homeopathy's like curing like 'principle'. Ironically to it is entirely symptom-focussed rather than underlying causes,
You might have been had you seen the wound. The doctors who had expected to see a highly infected wound were also.
I do find it rather sad that the many people who have anecdotal evidence that homoeopathy does work are ignored. Fortunately the public at large are rather more open minded.
Yet somehow these remarkable effects don't appear in random controlled double blind trials. Do you think it is close-minded to submit interesting anecdotes to scientific testing? Do you think it's close minded not to accept them if they fail the tests? Not accepting anecdote on faith is not close-minded, it's sensible. I'm yet to be convinced of ghosts despite the huge number of 'open minded' accounts. Human beings have a remarkable knack of noticing patterns that aren't there.
Homoeopathic methodology does not lend itself to randomised double blind trials because each remedy is tailored to each individual, but evidently you know this. There have been rdb trials that prove a statistical effect over and above placebo. Hayfever has been shown to respond to mixed pollens homoeopathically prepared and applied.
My terminal cancer responded extremely well to natrum carb 10m. Homoeopathy was central to my recovery though I don't expect you to be convinced by anything I say.
The collective weight of scientific evidence has found homeopathy to be no more effective than a placebo.[2][3][4][5][6]
^ a b "Issues surrounding homeopathy", National Health Service, retrieved 2011-09-11
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The collective weight of scientific evidence has found homeopathy to be no more effective than a placebo.[2][3][4][5][6]
^ a b c d e Ernst, E. (2002), "A systematic review of systematic reviews of homeopathy", British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology 54 (6): 577–82, doi:10.1046/j.1365-2125.2002.01699.x, PMC 1874503, PMID 12492603
^ a b c d e f UK Parliamentary Committee Science and Technology Committee - "Evidence Check 2: Homeopathy"
psychobackpacker 1 month ago
The collective weight of scientific evidence has found homeopathy to be no more effective than a placebo.[2][3][4][5][6]
^ a b c d Altunc, U.; Pittler, M. H.; Ernst, E. (2007), "Homeopathy for Childhood and Adolescence Ailments: Systematic Review of Randomized Clinical Trials", Mayo Clinic Proceedings 82 (1): 69–75, doi:10.4065/82.1.69, PMID 17285788, "However, homeopathy is not totally devoid of risks… it may delay effective treatment or diagnosis"
psychobackpacker 1 month ago
The collective weight of scientific evidence has found homeopathy to be no more effective than a placebo.[2][3][4][5][6]
^ a b c d e Ernst, E. (2002), "A systematic review of systematic reviews of homeopathy", British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology 54 (6): 577–82, doi:10.1046/j.1365-2125.2002.01699.x, PMC 1874503, PMID 12492603
^ a b c d e f UK Parliamentary Committee Science and Technology Committee - "Evidence Check 2: Homeopathy"
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flootisboy65 2 months ago
He is giving such a clear explanation. It is such shame that most people here are rubbishing everything he has to say... Saying that it has been "scientifically disproven" is not correct. Rather than just making such a simple (and very damaging statement) follow this man's advice, and look up the authoritative references he has listed
abhishgva1 9 months ago
I think Dr. Bhatia is an authority whose opinion matters but I'm not saying that there is room for abuse with homeopathic which may be a reason to protest and make people aware - maybe Bhatia is missing the point.
jnpatch 1 year ago
I strongly support homeopathic "medicine". It is one of the few ways we have available to cleanse the gene pool of the genes for stupidity.
BlueAvantiGuy 1 year ago
In 1989 there was a double blind, placebo-controlled study done on 487 influenza patients who had been referred by 149 different doctors. Over half who were given the homeopathic remedy called oscilloccoccinum recovered from the flu within 48 hours. The Lancet was not only impressed with the results but by how well the study was conducted. The study was published in the British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology in 1989.
Amygdala100 1 year ago
26th 2010-the British government empathically backed the people’s choice to seek homeopathy on the NHS
Amygdala100 1 year ago
2010-the British government empathically backed the people’s choice to seek homeopathy on the NHS
heatherashio101 1 year ago
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Amygdala100 1 year ago
Research data is available in The Lancet Linde, K. et al. (1997). "Are the clinical effects of homeopathy placebo effect? A meta-analysis of placebo-controlled trials." Lancet vol. 350 pp. 834-843. The trend of the studies is that homeopathy is effective above placebo and requires further study.
Amygdala100 1 year ago
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1:13 "Somebody has to tell them that homeopathy doesn't work..." THERE!! STOP!! That's all you needed to say. You were correct at that point, the rest of the video is unnecessary.
cjeam9199 1 year ago 31
very nice explanation!
TheAcquistocialis 1 year ago
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Arsenic concentrations in drinking water were normal but arsenic concentrations in samples of the homeopathic medications were elevated-See Clinical Toxicology
2003, Vol. 41, No. 7, Pages 963-967
Amygdala100 1 year ago
@greasegunx Distilled water had been through the same preparation procedure as the homeopathic antidote by Indian scientists and was found not to work for liver toxicity induced by arsenic in mice;whereas the homeopathic antidote (based on arsenic oxide) reduced the liver toxicity.
Amygdala100 1 year ago
thought that this can not be
farmaciaitalia 1 year ago
Thanks for this video. I'm severely allergic to antibiotics, so my Cambridge graduated GP,who is also trained to prescribe homeopathic remedies, prescribed me with these safer alternatives. I've also saved an abscessed tooth using homeopathy, along with many other ailments and have successfully treated my son's asthma. I'm now using homeopathy on my pets and researching how homeopathy is used on plants.
Amygdala100 1 year ago
Thanks for this video. I'm severely allergic to antibiotics, so my Cambridge graduated GP,who is also trained to prescribe homeopathic remedies, prescribed me with these safer alternatives. I've also saved an abscessed tooth using homeopathy, along with many other ailments and have successfully treated my son's asthma. I'm now using homeopathy on my pets and researching how homeopathy is used on plants.
Amygdala100 1 year ago
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Thanks for this video. I'm severely allergic to antibiotics, so my Cambridge graduated GP,who is also trained to prescribe homeopathic remedies, prescribed me with these safer alternatives. I've also saved an abscessed tooth using homeopathy, along with many other ailments and have successfully treated my son's asthma. I'm now using homeopathy on my pets and researching how homeopathy is used on plants.
Amygdala100 1 year ago
@Amygdala100 allergic to every kind of antibiotics? homeopathy doesn't work, it's been proven over and over again, i'm afraid you're a "victim" of the placebo effect.
Nydracommander 1 year ago 12
@Nydracommander Blinkered opinions will only result in fewer freedoms for the masses. You are one who is a” victim” of propaganda. Thanks to my “conventional” doctor, who has liberated me; I will continue to use the medicine of heads of state, royalty and world elite people. I’ve illuminated myself with the “accurate knowledge,” above and beyond your mumbo jumbo.
Amygdala100 1 year ago 11
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@Amygdala100 it's not an opinion, it's scientifically proven homeopathy doesn't work. freedom has nothing to do with it, it's about what is true and what isn't. homeopathy is mumbo jumbo and any sincere person who is educated in medicine knows and comfirms this. yes placebo's can lighten symptoms, but they do not resolve the underlying cause. thanks for trying though
Nydracommander 1 year ago 17
@Nydracommander Mr Echo of propaganda, it’s well known that many “conventional” drugs don’t treat the root causes of illness, that’s where homeopathy has succeeded, when these drugs have failed. Animals and plants have no expectations of medicines; they do not display the placebo effect. Humans anticipate the healing but plants and animals don't.
Amygdala100 1 year ago
@Amygdala100 i suggest you look into placebo effect. it is well known that plavebo also works on children, animals etc. it's a common misconception that it doesn't. there's an overly clear and undenyable consensus about homeopathy: studies have shown that it does not work. benefits gained were at most equal to the placebo control group in every major study. homeopathy never cuers the root of the problem. actual medicine has drugs that can treat symptoms and roots.
Nydracommander 1 year ago
@Nydracommander Different effects can be created in animals by differential handling, and handling can result in animals healing more quickly or more slowly, depending on the amount of stress placed on the animal -- but that is not a "placebo" effect, it is an environmental effect and a stress effect (positive or negative).
Amygdala100 1 year ago
@Amygdala100 again, i suggest you look up what placebo effect means. It includes the different treatment, emotions and handling of sick animals, and the same principle applies to humans/children. placebo is a non-specific benefit effect. but here's the catch: normal drugs and treatment also invoke an important placebo effect, ON TOP of the normal effect they produce. Hundreds of studies have shown that homeopathy only offers placebo effects, and is thus the same as giving an inert substance.
Nydracommander 1 year ago 11
@Nydracommander Placebo effect doesn't work on plants and animals;whereas homeopathy does and I've researched enough to see the clinical trials where placebo verses homeopathy. Statistically, homeopathy works better than placebo! Therefore, homeopathy is not "placebo." Research the work being done with plants.Plants do not respond to placebo effects although, they respond to homeopathy.
Amygdala100 1 year ago
@Amygdala100 why do you make me repeat myself? placebo does work on animals and plants. Also: meta-analyses of well performed, large scale homeopathy studies have shown no difference between homeopathy and placebo. On top of that, homeopathy working would violate fundamental laws of chemistry and one of the basic principles of medicine: dose dependant effects. if homeopathy did actually work, it would be widely used in hospitals. But it doesn't work, i'm sorry if you really believed in it.
Nydracommander 1 year ago 4
@Nydracommander Don't lie; it's been officially reported that within the UK alone 70% of patients have been made well through homeopathic medicine. Patient satisfaction discredits your comments. We don't need the petrolchemical industry to rule us with their toxic druggery and money greed, whilst heads of state and royalty are recipients of the best medicine in the world.
Amygdala100 1 year ago
@Amygdala100 'don't lie" uhmm..excuse me? i suggest you stop lying and inventing numbers. "70% of patients..." That's an outright lie. I suggest you consult the us national library of medicine (pubmed). i can't post articles, youtube cencors those links. why should i lie? i'm just stating what science has concluded. homeopathy does nothing more then placebo, it's proposed mechanisms contradict everything we know about chemistry and physics. that's just the way it is, i can't help it.
Nydracommander 1 year ago 6
@Nydracommander The Bristol Homeopathic Hospital carried out a study published in November 2005 of 6500 patients receiving homeopathic treatment. There was an overall improvement in health of 70% of them. Research this it was published in the mainstream media here in the UK!!
Amygdala100 1 year ago
@Amygdala100 i've looked into that "study" and is was horribly flawed in the most basics of scientific study: no randomization, no placebogroup, no baseline comparison. a recent review in the Lancet (one of the most prestigious scientific journals) of 110 homeopathy trials, showed that homeopathy is nothing more than placebo. i suggest you look it up on pubmed: "Are the clinical effects of homoeopathy placebo effects? Comparative study of placebo-controlled trials of homoeopathy and allopathy."
Nydracommander 1 year ago
@Nydracommander 70% PATIENT SATISFACTION RATE, where the difficult to heal cases-individuals who have first sought conventional help-placebos wouldn’t help- when conventional drugs were used unsuccessfully; referrals to the Bristol Homeopathic Hospital are the chronic and complicated cases- they could no longer be helped by conventional drugs, so their GP’s refer these patients to other qualified doctors working within an NHS homeopathic setting-homeopathy is a success for the chronically ill!
Amygdala100 1 year ago 3
@Nydracommander 70% PATIENT SATISFACTION RATE, where the difficult to heal cases-individuals who have first sought conventional help-placebos wouldn’t help- when conventional drugs were used unsuccessfully; referrals to the Bristol Homeopathic Hospital are the chronic and complicated cases- they could no longer be helped by conventional drugs, so their GP’s refer these patients to other qualified doctors working within an NHS homeopathic setting-homeopathy is a success for the chronically ill!
Amygdala100 1 year ago 5
@Nydracommander
how can placebo work on plants and animals?
the whole point of placebo is fooling the pacient-so he wouldn't know if it is real med or sugar pill, therefore exploring the extent and power of pacient's suggestion.
How can this work on-animals or plants???
angomako 1 year ago 7
@angomako you should really look these things up for yourself if you have such questions. Google and wikipedia are right there. There are many factors i can't all list here, look them up. in summary, placebo in animals and plants is due to how the handler treats the animal differently because it is sick. reporter bias is also present. placebo is a very general term and refers to any beneficial effect that occurs when any treatment is given, even if the treatment doesn't work.
Nydracommander 1 year ago
Homeopathy unanswered questions:
- what's the basis of the original ingredient?
- is there an expiry date?
- does sterilization clear water's memory?
- anything else that clears water's memory?
- is it possible for water to remember something bad and harmful?
- is water from the tap safe, because it might have remembered all kinds of bad things?
- is water in the lake and oceans safe because it might have remembered something bad and harmful?
I'm waiting...
antibunker 1 year ago 4
The knee-jerk shunning of contemporary Homeopathy doesn't make faith-based ancient Allopathy medicine any more powerful or provable in the correct treatment and cure of chronic diseases.
My beliefs based on faith in Allopathy have been destroyed by the logic of Homeopathy:
TREAT THE PATIENT NOT THE DISEASE.
mohanaturo 1 year ago
5 META ANALYSES showing positive results on Homeopathy:
1. Cucherat et al 2000* 16 Hi-Quality studies - POSITIVE.
2. Linde& Melchart 1998* 32 Hi-Quality studies - POSITIVE.
3. Linde et al 1997* 89 studies - POSITIVE.
4. Boissel et al 1996 15 Hi-Qt studies - POSITIVE.
5. Kleijnen et al 1991 105 studies - POSITIVE.
mohanaturo 1 year ago
"....I will simply state that on this basis we now understand how quantities of
one millionth of a gram and less of a poison may be sufficient to paralyse or
annihilate an organism; the quantity of the catalysts required to be inactivated
in the poisoning of an organ is not greater than the quantity of poison used.
There is therefore nothing mystical in the homeopathic doses".
H A N S V O N E U L E R
Nobel Lecture, May 23rd 1930
mohanaturo 2 years ago
Cherry Picking.
antibunker 1 year ago
In the late 1920's when many people thought that Homeopathy remedies had mystical effects, Nobel Laureate scientist Prof. Hans Von Euler conducted scientific tests to ascertain if Homeopathy had a scientific base.
mohanaturo 2 years ago
"To the best of my knowledge, there remains no refutations of Homeopathy that remain valid......"
Brian Josephson
Nobel Laureate Scientist
(Physics - 1973)
mohanaturo 2 years ago
One of the best testimonies of the efficacy of Homeopathy is the book:
"HOMEOPATHY CURES WHERE ALLOPATHY FAILS" written by an Allopathy medical doctor & surgeon.
In it he details many patients of chronic diseases who were getting worse with Allopathy drugs but were CURED once they switched to Homeopathy remedies.
Many of these patients were Allopathy doctors themselves.
IMO, the book should be titled:
"HOMEOPATHY CURES ALLOPATHY DOCTORS"!! LOL!!!
mohanaturo 2 years ago
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Your effort is good Doctor but 10 23 group seems unable to understand how homeopathy work.
billinghs 2 years ago
But they *do* know how it "works". Just like every other placebo.
greasegunx 2 years ago
Dear "greasegunx",
you better learn how to behave properly and how to communicate in an acceptable way, otherwise nobody will take you seriously anyway.
MrsGanesha2009 2 years ago
Nice to see the grandstanding there, but can you please first start making some factual statements rather than babbling nonsense?
greasegunx 2 years ago
There's no such thing as homeopathic "medicine," because it neither treats nor cures anything. It's quackery. There is no such thing as water memory, the Law of Similars is rubbish, and quacks ALWAYS claim that "you're doing it wrong" when you prove that their quackery is just that.
lawyerly 2 years ago
That's because they're about maintaining a belief system, rather than genuinely trying to find facts.
The diametric opposite to what science is about.
greasegunx 2 years ago
3 Nobel Laureate scientists have done studies on high dilutions( similar to Homeopathic) and have proven their effects.
1. Hans Von Euler -
Nobel Laureate Chemistry 1929
2. Brian David Josephson -
Nobel Laureate Physics 1973
3. Luc Montagnier -
Nobel Laureate Physiology & Medicine 2009
mohanaturo 2 years ago
Clutching at straws, and short ones at that. Shows the studies that have been properly blinded, structured and had solid science, and that were repeated. False positives happen all the time in science.
Sad sad sad how you cling on to a dream.
greasegunx 2 years ago
PS: Nobel laureate does not make the studies better or worse. It's a red herring.
greasegunx 2 years ago
Modern physics and other scientific diciplines have already transcended the age of "supermaterialism" and proved long, long ago that the decisive thing in this world is information and not what we call "the matter".
So how can these 10 23 people bother us at all?!
MrsGanesha2009 2 years ago
What the fuck are you talking about dude? Clearly you've got no idea.
greasegunx 2 years ago
Instead of arguing and wasting time why don't you all study the books on Homoeopathy and read the testimonies of all those top Homoeopaths who were once top allopaths M.Ds before their conversion to Homoeopathy.
No one is pushing Homoeopathy down your throat by force.
devchugani 2 years ago
You're pushing it down people's throat buddy! You and your fellow homeopaths are selling water and claiming it cures cancer!
Fuck, does that have no significance to you?
greasegunx 2 years ago
I've never heard such pathetic bullshit.
nasalhazel1 2 years ago
Comments on the fly: Your example of a diabetic is giving the patient measurable quantities of a substance. Homeopathy has no measurable quantity of active ingredient. Also are you saying that glass of arsenic will only kill you if you are susceptible? If its individualised why is their generic remedies available? Just because its been around for 200yrs doesn't mean it works. Is slavery good because it was around for 1000s of years? What a hide - homeopaths charge $50 for 2cents worth of water.
mddawson1 2 years ago
Thank you so much, greasegunx!
If you are our opponent
we - homeopaths - can not dream for a better favour!
Keep writing, my friend.
homeohelp 2 years ago
sad delusional fool. I am not the "opponent' of homeopathy per se, but bullshit and peddling.
keep believing whatever you want.
greasegunx 2 years ago
just try not to kill too many people while you're revelling in your reverie.
greasegunx 2 years ago
Dangerous outdated quackery. The skeptics are not ever again going to let you get away with it.
skepticzonepodcast 2 years ago
Like so many alt-med crooks, this guy is just pulling this bullshit out of his arse. Never ceased to amaze me how much the proponents make shit up as they go along, and all the idiotic followers nod sagely.
greasegunx 2 years ago
Homeopathic dilutions are made by shaking it a bit and banging it on a strip of leather with horse hair. There is no science behind this.
There was no reason ever to think homeopathy might work, no reason to think it could work and no reason to think it does work.
Ashamanic 2 years ago
den151redbank. Do you earn an income from homoeopathy - directly or indirectly?
Remember when you answer this question, that God is watching and you will be judged.
SkepRob 2 years ago
Why don't you look at the records for cancer treatment at Banerji Clinic? They treat 1,200 cancer patients PER DAY with 70% benefit. They treat patients from all over the world including children who are too frail for chemical treatment. Isn't it nice to know these children can be treated and live? Didn't you know that per Dr. Roses, VP, GSK, conv cancer treatment is only effective in 25% -- yes, 25% -- of cases AND that's proven by their own records. Read The Independent, 12/8/03.
den151redbank 2 years ago
Pediatric oncologists from Columbia U visited Banerji and stated that they were impressed with the quality of life (i.e., freedom from symptoms and progress toward recovery) in children treated with homeopathy alone as compared to the same in children treated with surgery, radiation and chemo. In case you question this, pls bear in mind that Columbia is one of the most respected, prestigious US institutions. Their docs are among the most competent to judge.
den151redbank 2 years ago
Google 'Gloria Sam' to read how a curable case of eczema caused the death of 9mth old Gloria. Her homeopath father refused "conventional treatments" using homeopathy only as she wasted away, her hair turned white (she was on Indian descent) & her eyes melted from infection. Her parents are now in jail for this crime - using homeopathy is a death sentence.
mddawson1 2 years ago
"Do you earn an income from h......". Don't be ridiculous! My working life is composed of many years with IBM as a financial analyst. I'm retired now and studying art. I leave the study and practice of medicine to those who have an interest in it and aptitude for it.
P.S. Atheists like to make judgments about medicine based on their religion (and atheism is its own brand of religion). My point of view is that religion has nothing to do with medicine. Does that clarify things for you?
den151redbank 2 years ago
Why didn't Boots stop selling homeopathics to the other 65 million Brits?
den151redbank 2 years ago
How do you explain tapwater ? It is effectively a homeopathic remedy with countless active ingredients. So we drink the cure for almost all illnesses every day - and i dont have to pay a charlatan for the privilege...
skulptor 2 years ago
Find out how homeopathics are made and the science behind it. Then you won't be confused about "tap water". Next thing you'll be going on about a container 35 million times the size of earth...........
den151redbank 2 years ago
@den151redbank there is no science about making homeopathic 'cures'. Just be sure you have a bible handy to hit a bottle of water on. Simple dilution is not science.
skulptor 2 years ago
Same question to you: Why didn't Boots stop selling homeopathics to the other 65 million Brits?
den151redbank 2 years ago
@den151redbank Boots get money from gullible people. They have a nice safety net in that it is unlikely anyone will be poisoned by sugar or water.I dont think all 65 million 'Brits' buy sugar pills or water from Boots homeopathic range.
skulptor 2 years ago 2
So Boots has NOT stopped selling homeopathics. Twice as many Brits use h. today as did 5 yrs ago. Why is this? Maybe because it works?
You haven't given your scientific or medical credentials or discussed your own work upon which you base your OPINIONS. Why not?
Why don't you read the work of Nobel Prize winners like Luc Montagnier and the work of renowned scientists like Roy, Tiller, Bell, Conte, LaVergne, and Berliocchi. I think it carries more weight than your uninformed opinions.
den151redbank 2 years ago
Also the added bonus for Boots is that unlike real medicine they don't have to spend all that time & money researching & testing homeopathy. Homeopathy is the medical equivalent of the emperors new clothes.
mddawson1 2 years ago
a person who is compaign against homoepathy they a BROKER of gaint phamaceutical company. they have been given huge bribe to speak against homoeopathy.they don,t know abt homoeopathy.wat they speak.pls this is my hible request to u people that come to india and first qualified the entrance examination to studay homoeopathy and do studay 5and 1/2 yrs then speak my DEAR USELESS COMPAIGNER.
drjunaidalam1 2 years ago
Number of Nobel Laureate Scientists(Prof.Hans Euler Chemistry 1930, Prof. Brian D.Josephson Physics 1973 & Prof. Luc Montagnier Physiology/Medicine 2009) who have proven the efficacy of high dilutions: 3
Number of (Nobel Laureate) flat-earth-PSEUDOscientists-wi th-a-hidden-agenda who have disproven the efficacy of high dilutions: NIL
So the score is:
Homeopathy: 3
Flat-earth-PSEUDOscientists: NIL
mohanaturo 2 years ago
Where are all these bloody papers that you are talking about??Where is the research??
If you have proved anything at all, why you haven't earned the nobel prize for physics proving the memory of water??
Science my friend is something you will never understand, however science is large enough to have allowed even people like you to survive and talk all this nonsence against it..
anginara 2 years ago 2
Having made your point that a Homeopathic remedy is only a trigger to a person that is in perceptible state, what exactly is the trigger in the preparation. Since there is nothing in it, I fail to understand what exactly is the compound that triggers the improvement in the patient ?
plumdrix 2 years ago 2
A Quick web search of any homoeopathic remedy usually comes up with about 30 ailments that are supposedly treated by one of these "remedies" a lot of which are so vague that it would be hard to NOT have at least a couple of the complaints. so logically most people would be suseptable to almost all "remedies" IF they actually worked.
but as they are just shook up water evaporated on a sugar pill no one was effected by their "overdose" just as no one is effected by the reccomended dose.
voidthatbinds 2 years ago
I just couldn't finish it- sometimes an argument is just so badly put, and with nothing but poor anecdotal biased evidence that trying to debate the obvious truth is pointless, this guy will believe any old shit as long as it's based on the supernatural. And that was one of the most boring non-arguements for mystical bullshit I've ever heard.
boozenfags 2 years ago
Science is about observing phenomena and then hypothesising explanations for how the phenomena works.
Homeopathy and its proponents already have their explanations (some of which contradict each other) and are desperately looking for the effect - 200 years later...
This is the exact opposite of science, it's sympathetic magic and it's amazing that in the 21st century, we're still arguing about it...
vbloke 2 years ago 2
Is it in the Indian mentality to be self-deluded amidst mystical, obscure ramblings?
cherylwens 2 years ago
I'm the London 10:23 organiser, and I'm Indian, and I can safely say no! :-)
Cx
Carmenego 2 years ago
Susceptible??? Dr Quack do you mean stupid enough to hand over money for nothing. I have problems sleeping and participated in the 10 23 overdose. I overdosed on sleeping medication so I would have been very susceptible. Zero effect. Why?
SkepRob 2 years ago
this guy is just pathetic with his laughable bullshit
szoregi 2 years ago
why dont u read some books and Homoeopaths have good head and heart .What they dont have is big mouth.
devchugani 2 years ago
Yes Sir ,
A Homoeopath with over fifty years experiance cured a case of HIV with a single dose freeof any charges.
devchugani 2 years ago
@devchugani - In the interests of truth etc - please cite your source i.e. where we can read a proper account of this alleged cure. Just claiming it don't make it so. This perhaps is the difference between medicine and things like homeopathy. Medicine can PROVE cures work.
@nsheikhani "Lack of knowledge or understanding of any science does not falsify the existence or efficacy of the discipline" - no, but decades of double blined scientific trials proves homeopathy doesn't work.
TheCardinalFang 2 years ago 3
Of course he did, that's why it was published in a scientific journal, or written about in newspapers ... I believe homeopathy might help with colds and so on BUT never never take it for serious illnesses like leukemia, cancer and aids its just BS and endangers people's lives
babette62 2 years ago
Thank you for giving your ignorant, uneducated opinion. Why don't you do some homework? You'd find out that homeopathy alone regresses brain tumor by 100%. And at very little cost to the patient. Given the rate of cancer today, the chances are very good that YOU will someday soon want the same for yourself.
den151redbank 2 years ago
@den151redbank dont you realise that if your claim was true then the number of patients in the world with brain tumours who would clamour for homeopathy is enormous. No genuine medicines would be used at all. WHy is this not the case ?
skulptor 2 years ago
*sighs* I think @den151redbank will not be convinced otherwise, and it's a lost battle. Let's just hope he does not convince guillible people :( although stating it "shrinks brain tumors" probably won't , cause no one is that silly....
babette62 2 years ago
Perhaps the homeopathy shrank his brain as well as the tumor?
mddawson1 2 years ago
Where is the evience for this? Can you provide the doctors name, the patients name, some independant sources who can verify the patient actually had HIV with test results. Also test results post cure are required. Sorry but your say so is not evidence of anything.
mddawson1 2 years ago
Dr. Hannemann faced a similar situation when he introduced homeopathy to the world. The detractors were there then and the detractors are here today. Homeopathy has not only survived but grown in stature. Lack of knowledge or understanding of any science does not falsify the existence or efficacy of the discipline.
nsheikhani
nsheikhani 2 years ago
Homeopathy is based on a false belief that like cures like. This means that something that causes a headache is given to "cure" a headache. This is a false premise. Homeopathy denies germ theory as it is based on balancing humors. This is a false premise. At the time when Hannemann lived it was no more effective than other contemporary treatments but was a lot less harmful. But this was when people thought bad smells cause disease. Human lifespans have doubled since modern medicine developed.
mddawson1 2 years ago
What are the chances that all three hundred of the skeptics that overdose on homeopathic medicine aren't "susceptible" to it?
Whatsmore, if you can't determine who is and isn't susceptible to the "medicine" prior to taking it, then you can't show that it's any more effective than a placebo.
logician360 2 years ago 3
what a waste of time and goodwill.
there is no such thing like "homeopathic medicine".
you're talking crap.
abruemmer77 2 years ago
How dare you call yourself a doctor!?
You are nothing but a bloody charlatan! You are killing people by preventing them from getting real medicine.
Nilguiri 2 years ago 2
It doesn't work this way - it doesn't work at all.
Susceptible.. that's about right.
Grain of salt. hehehe Susceptible to a grain of salt! hahaha
I'm in a very susceptible state now! Susceptible to expressing ridicule.
Can you prove your point by drinking a cup of poison, knowing that you are not susceptible?
Cyrius01 2 years ago 2
If You you really want to know if Homeopathy works go & study the subject. Homeopathy is a science & an art. I agree Homeopathic Medicine should NOT be sold over the counter, it has to be prescribed by a fully trained Practitioner. How many people have taken Antibiotics with no result? & many other drugs? If I were you i would be demonstrating about the mass over prescribing of chemical drugs not Homeopathics.
president325 2 years ago
Of course, Samuel Hahnemann himself would be turning in his grave at the thought of homeopathy being sold in high street chemist shops. I'm sure you know that he said homoeopathic medicines can "never be dispensed by the apothecary without injury to the public."
No true homeopath would sanction the selling of homeopathic remedies by a chain store.
skepticat1 2 years ago
The presenter is missing the point of the demonstration, which is to embarrass Boots into being honest. Boots is stocking homeopathic remedies as if they were proper remedies and defends its decision to do so on the grounds of 'customer choice'. But Boots does not tell customers that the remedies contain no active ingredients and therefore depend on the faith of the consumer that they will work.
If I'd known there was nothing in them, I'd never have bought any.
skepticat1 2 years ago 2
Sorry for the typing error .
chose should read as choose and exoriment should read as experiment.
Thanks
devchugani 2 years ago
Proof of the pudding is in the eating ,so chose what you want to do, you have freedom to chose but since the homoeopathic practitioners have the experiance in this medical sceince so please take precautions please read a few homoeopathic books and then proceed to exoeriment but have the necessary antidotes ready in case there is a reaction .
devchugani 2 years ago
effects at concentrations below Avogadros number and repeated emphasis that some cures work for only specific people in specific circumstances is precisely the evidence we need to show homeopathy does not work. great job 'doctor'. You try to say diabetics are susceptible to sugar .. sugar is not a cure for diabetes. Yoiu are trying to discuss cures. Non sequitur. Own goal. You do not understand. If remedies do not work on the principle of quantity then why have different concentrations. 0/10 doc
skulptor 2 years ago
You're a little confused to say the least. It is YOU who doesn't understand. Read some books and learn.
den151redbank 2 years ago
I have been using homeopathy for four years. I have been healed of a stomach ulcer in 7 weeks. Before that, I was a bit cynical and thought it might be a placebo so I tried it on my cats and also on my baby grand daughter who eventually was healed of febrile convulsions. No it is not a placebo. It really works. In my family we have used homeopathy to heal ailments from the common cold, through swine flu all the way to cysts and depression.
MIWA058 2 years ago
that is truly tragic. in 7 weeks it'd fix itself up on its own. you had a clear-up of an ulcer during the time you started taking homeopathetics. just how does that prove that it is the homeopathy that made it go away?
greasegunx 2 years ago
You desperately need a therapy, dear!
homeohelp 2 years ago
what, a homeopathic water therapy? at 10C with nothing in it but magic-water?
greasegunx 2 years ago
I have been cured by homeopathy and so has my mother and my cat. That is why I became a homeopath. I think it is ok to be a skeptic but why are these people so violently opposed to homeopathy? There is so much hate here. I feel so sad about it.
NissenHomeopathy 2 years ago
Nissen,
The skeptics are two types of people. The first are people paid by big pharma to criticize homeopathy to the public. The second are atheists. The atheists campaign against homeopathy because it works on energy. This offends them because they think that if energy meds work it proves there is human spirit -- God. That's what this is all about. It's not about medicine at all. Just a bunch of people trying to protect their financial interests and their belief systems.
den151redbank 2 years ago
The use of homeopathy is growing every year around the world. Here in the US it's growing because Americans recognize and dislike the fact that conventional treatment leaves them with additional and more serious diseases than they had before treatment. Smart, young doctors here are turning to natural medicine like homeopathy because the best healing for their patients.
den151redbank 2 years ago
Idiotic arguments there. The list of logical fallacies in your comment is dense, presumably denser than your head.
1) ad populi - the growing market is no signifier of quality or efficacy
2) false dichotomy - the word conventional means nothing in this context, as it could just as easily apply to the alt med world given its current level of popularity
greasegunx 2 years ago
3) undisclosed premise - that all science based medicine creates serious side-effects. that is just a pure and simple lie
4) strawman - that natural is in opposition to science based medicine. strychnine, botulism toxin and cyanide are all "natural" too. A huge proportion of the "conventional" medicine uses the active ingredients found in plants.
Get educated before you start posting rubbish.
greasegunx 2 years ago
this guy is seriously disillusioned
zanderzander05 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
homeopathy is not scientific, double blind trials would expose this placebo effect with no trouble what so ever
alexkillsdie 2 years ago
So homoeopathy is magic. That is essentially what he is saying.
sheebp 2 years ago
You need to be 'suspectible' to placebos for them to work too. But not real medicine. Funny that. And the point you're missing: 10:23 is an awareness campaign: not a scientific proof. People have already disproven homeopathy's efficacy scientifically.
RushyoTakha 2 years ago
If they want to cause themselves to experience a proving, then do it right. Not take only one dose, because no matter how many pills they they take then it is still one dose!
khatun07 2 years ago 2
I have used Homeopathy and found it to be amazingly effective. C potencies for acute symptoms and LM potencies for chronic symptoms have given me the best results. I've also experienced proof that taking a remedy that does not match my symptoms has absolutely NO effect, whereas the improvement when taking the remedy that matches the symptoms has been AMAZINGLY FAST and EFFECT.
CanadianWelshSoprano 2 years ago 2
"I've also experienced proof that taking a remedy that does not match my symptoms has absolutely NO effect, whereas the improvement when taking the remedy that matches the symptoms has been AMAZINGLY FAST and EFFECT. "
And of course you knew that before, didn't you? Placebo, wink wink.
Johannes9126 2 years ago
Well a placebo is merely a sugar pill - nothing else - I took a remedy (made with a substance, not just sugar) it was one that did not match my symptoms and because of that it had no effect. I have cured food allergies completely through using the LM potencies - the ones whose symptoms matched my own. As for colds/flus - C potencies I have found to be the best solution, and LM potencies for chronic ailments such as food allergies.
CanadianWelshSoprano 2 years ago
@CanadianWelshSoprano
And of course you knew that it didn't match your symptoms. Afterwards. And you took another one until you got better. Yeah! Bass akwards.
Johannes9126 1 year ago
LOL In what "specific" way is he using the word "susceptible"
anivegmin 2 years ago
1. Anecdotal stories have no bearing on the discussion.
2.Please reference the peer reviewed trials or meta analyses that "prove" the efficacy of homeopathy.
3.Why would that not be a randomised double blind trial.
anivegmin 2 years ago 3
Homeopathy ( like treating like) works. FULL STOP! If it is not treating symptoms that appear in the remedy's symptom picture, then of course it won't work. QED.
There is no point whatsoever in taking remedies randomly. The whole point is that the right remedy will work and the wrong one won't.
I have a distant cousin who is a vet homeopath on a farm.
Placebo effect? Bah humbug!
SueHom1 2 years ago 3
@SueHom1 I think you're using "QED" in a specific way here. Normally it means you've just proven your argument - "this I have shown." What you've done here is you've set out what you believe and you've not shown anything.
steviesteveo1 2 years ago
Dr Bhatia gives a very convoluted talk here, using the word "susceptible" a lot. What he is basically saying is that it is a placebo. I don't think he understands his own words.
anivegmin 2 years ago
When he uses the word susceptible, he is using it in a very specific way. In other words you do not know what you are talking about and you have not listened properly or attentively to what he said. Homeopathy can work for acute illness and for chronic states. Arnica 200 given to an 11 year old child I know after she was knocked down by a bus. She told me next time I saw her that it was amazing and asked me what was in it! Two doses, pm and am, then she needed no more and felt fine.
SueHom1 2 years ago
@SueHom1 So he's using susceptible in a way that the non homoeopathy trained rest of us wouldn't understand? Isn't that a little dishonest?
steviesteveo1 2 years ago
Again ! The lie. Yes the lie that homeopathy does not lend itself to randomised controlled trials. It is simple -
1. Split trial into 2 random groups.
2. Give both groups full homeopathic consultation with individualised prescription.
3. Give first group actual individualised prescriptions. Give second group placebo (sugar pill) All double blind.
4. Analyse outcome.
5. The end.
anivegmin 2 years ago
But of course that would not be a randomised double blind trial. Many trials have been conducted that prove the efficacy of homoeopathy beyond placebo.
Hardnosed farmers often swear by homoeopathy, finding that hepar sulph given in drinking water considerably lowers the incidence of mastitis in cattle. Trials have been conducted where one half of a herd is given nothing in drinking water and the other group gets the medicine. The differences in mastitis levels are remarkable.
kevinjohnmorris 2 years ago
Aurum is a major depression remedy. If you take it when you are not depressed you may well lose the will to live. Be careful before making rash promises.
If you are going to test a remedy, go to a homeopath next time you feel unwell or have an accident. Then you will be given a remedy in the most appropriate potency for yourself and in the safest quantity. Don't risk your health!
SueHom1 2 years ago
Your comment is in direct contradiction to "Dr" Bhatia's argument, that the medicine will have no effect if you are not susceptible.
Can you idiots even get your own claims consistent?
greasegunx 2 years ago
Dear Dr Bhatia,
Thankyou for expressing so clearly why this attention seeking plot is nothing other than silly nonsense.
For those of you who do not know any better, Dr Bhatia is a highly respected Indian Doctor who practices homoeopathy. When India gained her independence from Britain in 1947, he founding fathers had the foresight to recognise homoeopathy which is widely practiced. It is effective and inexpensive. Our loss is India's gain.
kevinjohnmorris 2 years ago
The only people who would respect "Dr" Bhatia is proponents of homeopathy.
In case you have some idiotic idea that he has just "blown the skeptics out of the water" he has given a self-contradictory, unsubstantiated and incomprehensible tirade about how special homeopathy is without have a shred of evidence to support his argument.
Get educated.
greasegunx 2 years ago
This miltmerm is just a heckler who believes other people have no right to think or choose their own health care.
People who use homoeopathy proactively have benefited for two hundred years.
Homoeopathic treatment from a trained practitioner is an excellent way to preserve one's good health. It is my choice for health care for many years.
Homoeopathy heals animals who are suffering from disease.
I know; I treat my budgies homoeopathically. There is no 'placebo effect' there.
BudgieLover 2 years ago
A heckler? Not really. I'm a leukaemia survivor who cares about health info. I've researched homeopathy extensively & find it extremely contradictory & unsupported by evidence. As for accusing me of taking away rights to choose. That's nonsense. Look at my posts on this very video. I say: "Nothing in 10:23 campaign takes away anyones freedom to choose. .... If someone wants to take ultra-diluted arsenic knowing what it is, & what it isn't that's fine."
And
miltmerm 2 years ago
I also say:
"Right to choose: Absolutely.
...
If someone wants to take a 1000-..onth of a molecule of the Berlin Wall to treat feelings of isolation after they have the information, of course that's their right & choice."
So your accusation is false. Don't worry, I'll accept an apology graciously.
miltmerm 2 years ago
@BudgieLover And Boots is not a trained practitioner. They're just selling the tablets in boxes.
steviesteveo1 2 years ago
Homoeopathy is proved by Allopathic doctors mostly M.Ds. And a homoeopath even cured a case of H I V with a single dose free of charge can allopathy do that? And by taking homoeopathic medicines just like that will do harm only so be careful.
devchugani 2 years ago
Homeopathy can cure HIV in a single dose. Did you just say that? Please repeat in case you are typing or I am reading wrong.
miltmerm 2 years ago 2
@devchugani No one has cured HIV, that's why it's such a nasty disease.
steviesteveo1 2 years ago
I find it interesting that when a Doctor issues a prescription, they also issue a list of foods and supplements not to take.
Look at blood thinners like coumadin, when the script is issued one is told to avoid garlic,onions and gingo. WHY? The Doctors answer, "Because they thin the blood also."
tips4health 2 years ago
So?
miltmerm 2 years ago
So, what they're saying is natural things work too, but let me sell you some rat posion because I can charge you for it!
tips4health 2 years ago
What's herbal medicine got to do with homeopathy? Homeopathy is the ultra-dilution & succussion of ingredients that cause a similar symptom you are trying to remedy. Well those are the 'principles' anyway.
Since there is no molecule of active ingredient in a homeopathic 'remedy' to what does your talk of garlic matter?
miltmerm 2 years ago 2
A lot. Herbal remedies are often given homoeopathically and below the limit of Avogadro's number. Some years ago I took hypericum, the herbal remedy St John's Wort, but in a potency where molecules are present. I had sliced between too fingers and the wound was dirty. The hospital told me it was too late to stitch and made me another appointment since they expected the wound to quickly become septic. When they examined it four days later, there was no wound- it had healed almost without scar.
kevinjohnmorris 2 years ago
Ta for the response Kevin, but forgive me for not being too impressed by an anecdote of a finger slice healing in 4 days. If you had 2 identical slices, and treated each with a cream (one without the hp) -you were bling to which was which- and one sealed dramatically faster- then there's a *starting* point of research.
Regardless of Avogardo's number there's a BIG problems with homeopathy's like curing like 'principle'. Ironically to it is entirely symptom-focussed rather than underlying causes,
miltmerm 2 years ago
You might have been had you seen the wound. The doctors who had expected to see a highly infected wound were also.
I do find it rather sad that the many people who have anecdotal evidence that homoeopathy does work are ignored. Fortunately the public at large are rather more open minded.
kevinjohnmorris 2 years ago
Yet somehow these remarkable effects don't appear in random controlled double blind trials. Do you think it is close-minded to submit interesting anecdotes to scientific testing? Do you think it's close minded not to accept them if they fail the tests? Not accepting anecdote on faith is not close-minded, it's sensible. I'm yet to be convinced of ghosts despite the huge number of 'open minded' accounts. Human beings have a remarkable knack of noticing patterns that aren't there.
miltmerm 2 years ago 3
Homoeopathic methodology does not lend itself to randomised double blind trials because each remedy is tailored to each individual, but evidently you know this. There have been rdb trials that prove a statistical effect over and above placebo. Hayfever has been shown to respond to mixed pollens homoeopathically prepared and applied.
My terminal cancer responded extremely well to natrum carb 10m. Homoeopathy was central to my recovery though I don't expect you to be convinced by anything I say.
kevinjohnmorris 2 years ago
Now I know you're full of shit.
Can you please stop lying.
greasegunx 2 years ago
yeah yeah, blah blah "I had a papercut that I put magic water and it healed in xxxx days. It's a miracle"
greasegunx 2 years ago
All homeopaths do not use extremely high dilution rates. Many homeopaths use lower dilutions more similar to conventional medicines.
tips4health 2 years ago