Bubba Shobert vs Scott Parker - 1988 AMA Flat Track - Part 1 of 2

[RandysRanch]

The 15 lbs was because the AMA instituted a minimum weight (just like there is in superbike racing). The restrictor plates were to make racing less expensive and to give non factory backed riders a fighting chance. Yes the changes closed the gap between the Honda and the other brands, but not intentionally. The intention was to close the gap between factory backed teams and privateers. Quit with the conspiracy theories.

[songsamsung]

@RandysRanch That's just a pack of lies!!! Harley didn't want to spend the money to make their antique engine competitive so they conspired with the AMA to nobble the Hondas. Any unbiased observer would surely see it that way. Honda showed their contempt in a typically Japanese way by packing up and leaving. Harley couldn't win so they cheated. That stinks! Boo to you and boo to Harley!

[akitaj2000]

H-D is the only brand in flat track that's represented within the AMA so H-D's best interest is top priority for the AMA. Despite the almost total lack of promotion in recent years for the most dominant machine in motorsports history. If you mentioned Scott Parker in a Harley dealership 90% of employees would respond with "Who the hell is that?".

I know the Camel Pro money isn't coming back, but a few nice photos with results and cardboard cutouts would be nice to see in EVERY store.

[mahagga]

@akitaj2000 dominat machine,you mean ONLY MACHINE.They ran everyone else off,after Hoda spent 4 years kickinh HD's arse they had to change the rules so the hardly ablesons could win all the races again.

[akitaj2000]

@mahagga No argument here. I was just saying that HD goes to great lengths to work within the AMA and run off any competition, but they cut back their factory effort due to lack of funding. What sponsor would fund something that isn't visible to 99% of the known world?

Honda would have gone MX with or without that rule, nearly every British marque was in financial ruins and xenophobia had killed any shot the other Japanese, German, & Italian brands to get a head start in the 50's-70's.

[mahagga]

@akitaj2000 Back in the 60'sand 70's when my father raced the sport was very popular,camping out at the Springfield Mile,successful races in places not in the Midwest or California,Television,newpaper coverage.The AMA killed flattrack with mismanagement,fortunately I see a resurgence now,more people are going back to the races.My Father(God bless him) was a Triumph rider and it was hilarious when he got on the subject of Harley and the AMA.

[mahagga]

@akitaj2000 and you are right,99 percent of Harley owners wouldn't know Scotty Parker if he stood in front of them.Sad but true,because flattrack is a far superior product to stock car racing or any of that motocross bs.

[mahagga]

Ricky Graham RIP,forever a legend

[Brian500R]

"the machines from milwaukee were slowly closing the performance gap on the japanese motorcycles?"

what a load of shit, yeah, they closed the gap after the hondas had been weighed down and choked out which caused the factory to pull support. way to go harley, reminds me of nhra fag bike.

[mahagga]

@Brian500R they forgot to mention the anchors the Honda's were carrying.Then JB Norris screwed Bubba out of the title cause he was a pound underweight or something.Bargeman,all of them are Harley loving schills.

[1mcysu]

dude nice ride mcysu11

[mahagga]

Harley couldn't cut it in road racing because they would be forced to up their game to the level of Ducati,Yama,Honda,etc.They failed to even make a dent in AMA Superbike even though they had Scott Russell and Pascal Picotte taking a boatload of money to ride for them.

[RR83y]

I agree it seems inappropriate to penalize the more successful brand but at the same time I had heard Honda had poured more money into research and development in one year than Harley had in their entire history. Pretty tough for others to compete with that. And also Hondas weren't available or affordable except for a few of the very best riders.

[FahQBB]

oNLY THING hARLEY HAS KEPT IS A GRUDGE IF U BEAT EM, AND FLATTRACK TO THEMSELF. i HAD NO IDEA THE HARLEY FACTORY SECRETLY OWNS THE SANCTIONING BODY THAT PUTS THE RACES ON. i LOVED BEATING EM BACK IN THE DAY WITH ANYTHING FROM A BSA MATCLESS TRIUMPH NORTON YAMAHA KAWASAKI HONDA SCHWINN,. HEY ITS A CAK CHAIN ERA AND THEY STILL PUSH PUSH RODS AND A 1934 DESIGN.FUCK EM.LOW LIFE CHEATING COCKSUCKING CUNTS.

[FahQBB]

WELL mAHYAGGA IT STARTED WAY BACK IN THE 40'S TRUST ME. CLASS WAS 500OHV/750SV no brakes AT ALL.gUESS WHO GOT HALF A MOTOR MORE? YUP.THEN IN 1975 WHEN ROBERTS BLEW EM OFF THE TRACK ON THE LAST LAP LAST 20 YARDS OF THE RACE AT INDY ON THE MILE, THEY BANNED THE FIRST AND ONLY 2 STROKE TO WIN A MILE NATIONAL EVER.tz IN A CHAMPION FRAME. dOUG KILLED HIMSELF SOON AFTER THE BAN.o'BRIAN OF hd N mOCKETT OF ama KILLED EM IF U ASK ME.

[mahagga]

the ama makes sure nobody but Harley ever wins the 1 plates ever since they nipped that Honda Graham Shobert thing in the bud.

[weimer495]

@mahagga yeap. now they wont let you run a bike less more than three years old in gnc. its all for corporations.

[mahagga]

@weimer495 at least there are several riders in the main at the Twins races not riding Harleys now.It's been 25 years since that happened.

[mahagga]

The reason Harley kept Flattrack afloat was because the AMA ran all the other brands off and they had their own series.

[Brian500R]

@mahagga

yep, and thats why the bullshit AMA never gets a single fucking penny from me. worthless bastards.

[nutz4polaris]

The reason Bubba Shobert left Flat Track racing!! They shouldn't have penalized Honda!!! Harley Davidson should of had to figure out a way to step it up!!!

[sliderman4u]

The only way Harley could win any race is by crying and changing the rules.....what a bunch of losers.

[JDoodle55]

And Harley has kept Flattrack from being a thing of the past too.

[2oldcoots]

Just have to wonder how long the Harley could have been competitive if Honda had kept on their development of the RS750 without all of the AMA BS handicapping. The Honda would probably have had to weigh 500 lbs by now with a 28 mm restrictor plate.

[Motoguzzi750]

The RS750s were a work of art no doubt about it.