amazing but in translation, is this a sunni prayer, referring to shia prayer when saying there is no God but God? sunni is allah only and shia includes the Imams also, so Is that why they specify only one god? only Mohammed?
@vryundy There is only one God.... that is the most basic belief in Islam, that is why it is said. This is the call to pray, which is heard 5 times a day in a Muslim country regardless of Sunni or Shia. Mohammed is not God. He is a messenger and Prophet.
@JiasJewels There is only one God and it isn't yours! You are all in the service of the beast Satan. May you all go to him soon. Filthy unwashed dammed people of the Devil. You are 100% evil ! The world will be rid of you soon. Mohammad was a con man your all so stupid and ignorant. This new year will be your last. Rot in hell blood soaked infidels!
Allahu akbar!!! I took my shahada at the masjid on October 22, 2010 and I will never turn back,. I love Islam and everything it stands for....this video is beautiful and i thank you for posting it
@Bravesfan4500 I converted to Islam because the more I studied it....the more I saw the truth in Islam, the peace, and the beauty. A few months into my study of the religion, I saw a muslim pray, in person, for the first time. That is what made me make my final decision. There are absolutely no contradictions, no flaws whatsoever in the Qur'an and there is more peace in Islam than in any other faith. Send me a private message if you want to learn more. I would be happy to help in any way i can
A-rabs this practice which they claim is islam is nothing but arab culturalism but if you don't know you don't know what ever they wont to say they along with the other two segments that make up the abrahamic triad all give praise to "Amen Ra" at the end of their prayers its not an Arabic word or in the Qu'ran for those zellots grinding thier teeth as soon as you read a surah you add it, as son as you finish dua you add it but you do not know the history you were told you did not reserch crazy!!
@Mrzeroplusone Yikes! Ever heard of of commas, periods, semicolons, or exclamation marks? That is the craziest run on sentence I have ever seen in my life! I would know, I am a secretary!
@aminaormuminah isn't it great to have a free hand and a free mind make your own rules in this free world it's how you don't end up being indoctrinated. A perfect example is the original Qu'ran had no grammer that was added mush later so what does that tell a person with a free mind? Even the great Allah use to just go with the flow I guess he needed a secretary too:
@aminaormuminah thank you for your comment & just incase you missed it I spoke not of your Allah but of those who added grammar to a text that originally had no grammar in it unless you have no knowledge of Quranic history or Islamic history, if you believe in your trusted Hadiths then you will know that muhammad said three generations after him the people would no longer be of him meaning those in the so called middle east who think they own Islam and that true islam would come from the west.
@Mrzeroplusone No, you did insult Allah by saying "He needed a secretary too." Allah needs no one. I am a revert from the U.S., and all your so called intelligent ramblings are giving me a headache, once again because of your lack of punctuation. The only person you impress is yourself.
@aminaormuminah The fact that you even refer to yourself as a revert tells me some one is teaching you how to think and stealing your mind I suggest you study history an those who write the books your reading its that kind of mental entrapment thats make people think they can blow people up & gain access to heaven & get 70 virgin for what I don't know & wine that wont let you get drunk, women can have the same but they only whisper about that one - what is a taklihumma as the Imam. Salaams
@aminaormuminah hears an easy one if someone is telling you that fasting is about knowing what it must feel like to be hungry so that you can have empathy for less well off well you have a long way to go, the core of the teaching is about the self most people have know idea what that even means, they think its about how many rakas they do exactly on time or how many book they read. Again I did not insult your god you speak of gramma yet you understand me, Qu'ran had no gramma that is a FACT!!
@pulman7 Zoroaster is a religion of persian origin and eastern islam has many customs that were taken directly from this religion dress code, circumambulation, seven angels, but please dont listen to me study the history and bare in mind it was at least 1000 years before islam. the main thing to understand is that the feminine principal was removed from the abrahamic triad and made a masculine theology which is why religion is in the state its in. No books fell from the sky NONE!
@pulman7 no thanks i only deal with primary sources for real history that can be proven by science and a free mind, 1400 years ago was just yesterday, i suppose adams children had relations with each other did they the story does not even make common sense but each to there own i told you to study zoroaster and this was your response? best of luck to you
Incorrect. ZoroastrianISM is the religion. Zoroaster, or Zarathushtra as he is called in Persian, is the Prophet who preached it. Yes, Islam and Zoroastrianism do share many qualities, but that's because Zarathushtra was most likely the prophet sent to the Persians. There were 124,000 Prophets. I believe that Zarathushtra was one of them.
@shanc1193 Well you may think that but you are going to need to sight some primary source and references to back that up - Zoroaster did not promote towheed in any shape or form and was the first to discribe a devil as you have it believed by many today, 124,000 prophets? come on stop that you cannot prove a single one, not one only stories passed from the jews to the christians and so on where are the artifacts of these phrophets around the globe and there teachings its all I ask not stories?
@Mrzeroplusone Alright. While I go find my sources, you can thumb through a grammar/spelling book. Deal? LOL, you haven't been citing ANY primary sources to prove YOUR points, so why should I?
According to Zarathushtra, Ahura Mazda is the ONE God. Even though modern day Zoroastrians also worship Yazatas as angels, this could have come into the religion later on (similar to Sufi saint worship). "Yazatas" can also simply be concepts or aspects of God.
@Mrzeroplusone Zoroaster's statement that they are worthy of worship is probably not literal. Next, Zarathushtra believed in free will and rejected monasticism (both are aspects of Islamic belief). He believed in a malevolent Ahriman (comparable, like you said, to the “devil”). He believed that good would triumph over evil when a Saoshyant (comparable to the Islamic concept of the Mahdi) would come to Earth. I don’t see any issues here.
@Mrzeroplusone According to the Zoroastrian “Zadspram,” the world arose in battles between elements, similar to the Islamic idea that the universe arose as the result of ‘the big bang.’ Zoroastrianism and Islam both believe in a Paradise and a Hell. “Sirat,” the Islamic bridge over Hell, is also mentioned in Zoroastrian scripture as “Chinvat.” Zoroastrians believe in a Judgment day. They also offer 5 daily prayers and prohibit the worship of idols.
@Mrzeroplusone From your point of view, Zoroastrianism influenced other religions; from my point of view, the religions are all similar because they come from the same place. Go anywhere, and I promise you’ll find “artifacts” attributed to the Prophets (PBUT). Did these things REALLY belong to them? Eh. Who knows? Anyway, of course I can’t PROVE them to you. That’s why it’s called “faith,” buddy.
@aminaormuminah most people believe things if they are told it often enough or if they have been told it their whole life, they take on faith that which they have neither questioned or researched ask yourself why Islam in the east equates to politics an Islam in africa equates to spirituality how quickly they forget that the first place the muslims went to for safety when they were being killed was in East Africa & want to turn around later an call people kuffar its ok when it suits
I just love to hear a Muslim Brother call for prayer! No disrespect to anyone of this BELIEF, because i am not! I Pray this right now, that all leaders of all beliefs, LEAD your Believers to the ONE AND ONLY "GOD", whatever he go by to you! Strive for "GOD" the way you strive for that money, or that house, or and even for your family. There is so much to be learned from "OUR CREATOR", AND EACH OTHER! PLEASE, EVERYONE, Time is short! YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD, NOW YOUR RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS!
Muslim religion is a bloody religion , violence is in their blood .The founder of this religion established it by cutting head of those who did not accept his filthy ideology .His morality was corrupted ,by taking a five year old child has his wife later taking his daughter-n-law has his wife .shame Muslims
A challenge to all muslim brothers and sisters sura 18 : 94-100 dhul qarnain /alexander built a wall of iron and copper to protect a tribe from yajuj and majuj wall will be destroyed on judgement day That means the wall should still be here show me the wall of iron and copper if pyramids are still here, then where is the wall It was a mythical story from a book Alexander romance muahmmad heard it in Syria It proves that Koran is the word of Muhammad not gods THINK CRITICALLY.
The book Iranians in the Qur'an and Traditions by Ali Abtahi mentions that a wall with characteristics mentioned in the verses of the Qur'an exists in the Dariel passage in the Caucasus mountains, and that there is even a stream nearby which is called "Saeres" by the locals. According to this source, local Armenians called this wall "Behag Gurai" (meaning "The passage of Cyrus").
before you go any further, google, " alexander romance", and read about that barrier in derbent, russia. it is located at the end of caucassian moutain at the shores of black sea.
read the whole article, you will understand what i am trying to explain.
@zulfitareen I understand, but there is much we need to learn and this is not the correct forum for any true scholar to raise his or her awareness. You suggested your book. I have suggested my book. We are at a impasse. Peace (Salaam)
@zulfitareen The Quran is the word of Allah not Muhammad,because this latter was a illiterate, how do you believe that an illiterate describes the stages of pregnancy since 14 centry? look to the sourate 22 verse 5
Try having to listen to this shit at 5am every fucking morning! muslims have absolutely no goddam respect or consideration for the peace and tranquillity of of others people! Stop living in the stone age and praying to an invisible fucking sky daddy you noisy cunts! This is a perfect example of religious conditioning, or should I say brainwashing!
I'm quite happy for you to go live your barbaric ways with your pretend god, just don't push your shit onto everyone else, or is that too difficult for your weak-minded intellect to understand?
again you show such IMMATURITY - 'you' who calls victims of wife beating THE PERPETRATOR and who totally supports such vile treatment of woment 'for your allah' calls others who are not weak/immoral/brainwashed/backwardly ignorant like you 'filthy turds'
first prove an allah before you keep dribbling your mindless garbage showing how gullible you are..remember MILLIONS of desperates have tried, NOT ONE has come up with single shred of ANYTHING to support allah or creationism theory LOL
'Filthy turds', hmm, I think you have the wrong context here. It should be something like this: I was just wondering, how much of a sexually oppressed chauvinistic moron do you have to be, to truly believe that when you die, a paradisical Disneyland complete with 40 virgins is waiting to welcome you! Besides, what do the women get when they die? Probably raped by all you filthy turds instead.
Oh by the way Mr Grand.. err Dragon? I'm from the UK, a place where you salacious parasites breed like feral rats that infest our culture with your vile, dogmatic, hate-fuelled beliefs and intolerant ignorance! Islam is nothing more than a virus, polluting its foul germs across Europe with the intention of eradicating the freedom and liberalism our forefathers bitterly died for in the second world-war. Just remember what happened to the Nazi's when they tried it you fuckers!
I suppose being such a devoted (read brainwashed) follower of Islam, you also support Sharia law. A law that still convicts women who have been gang raped, then condemns them to death by stoning, because the Qu'ran interprets this as committing adultery. Please do not try to justify this sick and vile 'religion' and dictate its so-called peaceful ways when such monstrous acts of atrocity are commonplace in strict Islamic nations and remain an integral part of Sharia Islamic law.
During the time of the Prophet (saw) punishment was inflicted on the rapist on the solitary evidence of the woman who was raped by him. Wa'il ibn Hujr reports of an incident when a woman was raped. Later, when some people came by, she identified and accused the man of raping her. They seized him and brought him to Allah's messenger, who said to the woman, "Go away, for Allâh has forgiven you," but of the man who had raped her, he said, "Stone him to death." (Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud)
stop your GARBAGE...your own dirty prick mohammed was a rapist...he took, kept, raped slaves and told his men it was also their RIGHT TO DO SO
you're pitiful...a very DIRTY DIRTY and ignorant little 'scared wimp of your mythical allah'
go stick your ass in the air...I had you absolutely TIED UP IN KNOTS making an idiot of yourself as you tried to defend the known errors in your man made koran LOL
In 2007, there were 248,300 victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault! That is in the land of Liberty and freedom LMAO
Every 2 minutes, someone in the U.S. is sexually assaulted!!
1 out of every 6 American women have been the victims of an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime (14.8% completed rape; 2.8% attempted rape).
In India females are FREE to report Rape but the fact is MOST cases of rape are NOT reported even in America. Most women choose not to report Rape for their own safety and dignity. In our Ummah a female like in the time of the prophet would be able to FREELY report Rape and the perpetrator would be prosecuted.
Again you disregard everything I mentioned like a immature Old granny ^_^
Islamic law designates ownership rights to each part of ones body, and a RIGHT to corresponding compensation for ANY harm done unlawfully to any of those parts.
Islamic law calls this the LAW OF JIRAH (wounds). Harm to a sexual organ, therefore, entitles the person harmed to appropriate financial compensation under classical Islamic jirah jurisprudence. Each school of Islamic law has held that where a woman is harmed through sexual intercourse, she is entitled to financial compensation!!
islam CAUSES millions of young girls to be harmed through sexual intercourse....and islamic leaders teach that sodomy with an infant is quite ok but if you harm them ...etc.....can you imagine a religion quite so repulsive as this that they fail to comprehend that AN ADULT ERECT DICK OR FINGER WILL ALWAYS HARM/DAMAGE AN INFANT
and here you are , yet again, blithely dribbling away trying to EXCUSE/RATIONALISE such filth to innocents
I think you should report that to a scientists! It may stop the dramatic premeditated murder rates in America! LOL
Oh and can you prove me that islamic scholars teach that Sodomy is okay? Isn't sodomy to do with homosexuality? Kinda like how priests rape little Boys?!
Again you confuse our modern realities with the realities of the past. To be honest I wouldn't expect such a incompetent old granny such as your self to understand LOL
You say Islam causes young girls to be harmed? LOL
Marital Rape
The Quran is very clear that the basis of a marital relationship is love and affection between the spouses, not power or control. Rape is unacceptable in such a relationship!
Sûrah ar Rum 30.21
Sûrah al Baqarah 2.187
Sûrah al Nisa 4.19
Read and LEARN. This is how you make constructive arguments you silly old Granny. Instead of stringing together insults I dissect your points and make tangible honest responses
Islamic law, with its radical introduction of a womans right to own property as a fundamental right, employs a gender-egalitarian attitude in this area of jurisprudence. In fact, there is a hadith specifically directed to transforming the early Muslim population out of this patriarchal attitude of male financial compensation for female sexual activity. (Abu Daud 1990, 3: Bk. 33, No. 4430; Bukhâri 1985, 8:Bk. 81, Nos. 815, 821, 826).
Early Islam thus established that there should be no tolerance of the attitude that a womans sexual activity is something to be bartered, pawned, gossiped about, or owned by the men in her life. Personal responsibility of every human being for their own actions is a fundamental principle in Islamic thought.
Marital Rape
The Quran is very clear that the basis of a marital relationship is love and affection between the spouses, not power or control. Rape is unacceptable in such a relationship
kid...let me TEACH you these facts also, in addition to WHAT IVE HAD TO EDUCATE you on re embryology
rape is sexual intercourse without informed consent...dont tell us koran is clear when males have the RIGHT TO DEMAND sex - you dont have a clue whats just been being discussed in Afghanistan do you lol
your ignorance/PITIFUL EXCUSES for the filth of islam show what a DIRTY AND WEAK wimp you are - time and time again
The crime of rape is classified not as a subcategory of zina (consensual adultery), but rather as a separate crime of violence under "hiraba".
This classification is logical, as the "taking" is of the victims property (the rape victims sexual autonomy) by force.
In Islam, sexual autonomy and pleasure is a fundamental right for both and taking by force someones right to control the sexual activity of ones body is thus a form of "hiraba"
I HAVE to TEACH and clarify my comments since you are too evidently keen on distorting and manipulating anything I give you regarding Islam.
Islamic legal responses to rape are not limited to a criminal prosecution for hiraba. Islamic jurisprudence also provides an avenue for civil redress for a rape survivor in its law of "jirah" (wounds).
Islamic law designates ownership rights to each part of ones body, and a right to corresponding compensation for any harm done unlawfully!
Although I am perfectly aware of the references I am also aware that YOU are in fact oblivious to them. In any case I shall refute this regurgitated myth
In a marriage abusive or forced sexual activity cannot be justified by abusing ANY Prophetic tradition. It is important to not confuse the issue of mutual rights that a couple has on each other with the misguided, distorted and misogynist assumption that women become a husband's property.
An often misquoted and abused hadith that is used to tyrannize women is that women cannot and should not say no to their husband when he approaches them. Women are advised not to turn away from their husbands HOWEVER this hadith is not quoted with the complementary one that advises men of the same consideration towards the RIGHTS of Women and their needs!
Men are advised that meeting the needs of their wives takes precedence!!
Narrated Abdullah bin Amr bin Al-As: "Prophet Muhammad (saw) said, O Abdullah! I have been informed that you fast all the day and stand in prayer all night? I said, Yes, O Allah's Apostle! He said, Do not do that! Observe the fast sometimes and also leave them at other times, stand up for the prayer at night and also sleep at night. Your body has a right over you and YOUR WIFE has a right over you. (Bukhâri)
re english..you couldnt comprehend & MISQUOTED what I said....I said forbidding of drinking water in earth's hottest driest temps (meaning countries) its not only idiot but downright DANGEROUS
of course if you had ANY INTELLECT you would know such is an irrefutable fact...the human body MUST HAVE WATER in such circumstances
re northern regions and ramadam...evidently YOU CANT PICK UP why I would say its proof of NO all knowing allah - but you are remarkably ignorant/backward
You imbecile I QUOTED to you the REQUIREMENTS of fasting. The fact that requirements are neccesitated and mentioned means that Allah is PERFECTLY aware that certain areas do NOT meat these requirements.
When the opportunity of Ramadaan does not arrive, and the month of Ramadaan is not seen at all, then there is NO obligation to fast. The same applies to Prayers (Salaat) at such places because Allaah (SWT) says,
Verily, the prayer is enjoined on the believers at FIXED hours. [Glorious Quraan 4:103]
So, when these hours are not found, no prayer is prescribed. The condition is attached at the end of the verses.
but there IS sunrise and sunset in those areas LOL
you cant answer can you as to why we know your concept of an allah wasnt ALL KNOWING at all....let alone the deceit that he/she is 'merciful' or anything like it
and I ask WHY your allah didnt know about the brain re yawning, or the lifelong harm wife beating causes....or about human rights or that women would RISE UP lol
first prove an allh before you keep dribbling childish junk like 'allah is perfectly aware'...WHAT allah LOL
"So whoever of you SIGHTS (the crescent on the first night of) the month (of Ramadan i.e. is present at his home), he must observe Suam (fasts) that month, [Glorious Quraan 2:185]
Thus, when the opportunity of Ramadaan does NOT arrive, and the month of Ramadaan is not SEEN at all, then there is NO obligation to fast.
So in layman terms (for your sake), Fasting is NOT prescribed upon these people since they unable to fulfil the requirements base don their circumstances!!!
"And among His wonders is this: He creates for you mates out of your own kind, so that your might incline towards then, and He engenders love and tenderness between you: in this, behold, there are messages indeed for people who think!
Sûrah al Baqarah 2.187
"... They are as a garment for you, and you are as a garment for them."
Like any typical ignoramus bigoted polemic you attempt to string together a degree of intolerable and hideous crimes and then associate it with Islam. One of these is Incest.
LET IS BE CLEAR that Incest & Child Abuse is NOT permitted at all. The Quran clearly outlines those with whom marriage is not permitted, we can extrapolate from it that any sexual relation with these would be unacceptable.
Al Hasan reports: If somebody commits illegal intercourse with his sister, his punishment is the same as for any other person who commits such a crime. (Bukhâri Vol. 8 pp 526)
This is a AUTHENTIC narration that clearly prohibits incest
your koran is WHY incest is so RAMPANT and way of life in your ummah...and always has been
so why doesnt it say 'fathers with daughters'
child abuse IS PERMITTED...children are married off without possibly being able to give INFORMED consent
mutlilation with the pagan ritual of circumcision is abuse, as are the sects who CUT their children...and certainly children BEATEN for not praying properly IS ABUSE
but then you think wife beating wonderful DIRTY BOY
I KNOW whats beyond you...the mental capacity to THINK for yourself
how many rape victims would have 4 witnesses or even 1?
dont LIE...rape is rampant in your ummah, as is incest/abuse/sexual deviance and the CAUSE is islam...unhealthy unnatural repression will always have unhealthy outcome, as it SHOWS it does
and YOU SUPPORT CRIME against women..you glorify DOMESTIC ABUSE/WIFE BEATING
Did you even read what I gave you??!! A rape victim does NOT need 4 witnesses. 4witnesses are required for adultery or fornication which is a different matter. Adultery is a mutual act... rape is a enforced infringement of ones body without consent. These two are different matter entirely.
In fact Empirical evidence suggests that MOST rapists in American are White and close relatives! So beware!
52% are white (U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Statistics.)
Islamic legal scholars interpret rape as a crime in the category of Hiraba. In Fiqh-us-Sunnah, hiraba is described as: a single person or group of people causing public disruption, killing, forcibly taking property or money, attacking or raping women (hatk al arad), killing cattle, or disrupting agriculture.
According to Islâm, a woman has to be respected and protected under all circumstances, whether she belongs to your own nation or to the nation of an enemy, whether she follows your religion or belongs to some other religion or has no religion at all. A Muslim cannot outrage her under any circumstances. All promiscuous relationships have been forbidden to him, irrespective of the status or position of the woman, whether the woman is a willing or an unwilling partner to the act.
The words of the Holy Qurân in this respect are: "Do not approach (the bounds of) adultery" (17:32). Heavy punishment has been prescribed for this crime, and the order has not been qualified by any conditions. Since the violation of chastity of a woman is forbidden in Islam, a Muslim who perpetrates this crime cannot escape punishment. (Maudoodi)
Once Again I humiliate you feeble desperate attempt to attack the religion of Islam without your hopeless array of insults and degrading rhetoric
Im LAUGHING that you would think your childish dribble re the FILTH DIRTY IMMORAL islam 'would ever humiliate' me
you make a pitiful IDIOT of yourself day after day trying to EXCUSE/GLORIFY the human misery/harm it causes and POSTING BRAINWASHED JUNK re embryology showing your ignorance AND the proof that youve been so LIED TO
why do you think people with values/morals know islam as UTTERLY EVIL AND REPULSIVE and the human misery is VISIBLE for all to see - except to those who lack ethics
Its okay little feeble Granny, I am sure someone will look after you in your Old age home once your children neglect you in chase of their aspirations.
you're desperation is visible with SO MANY immature posts lol
Im laughing that you refer to my children and neglect...yet again SHOWING your stupidity and ignorance
re children, if I was you I would be thoroughly ashamed/embarrassed to admit that your parents loved a pedo/rapist/liar/thief/sicko/taker of slaves/MURDERER of innocent more than they loved you even...what a sad thought
The Quran has, in various ways and in different contexts; impressed on men that THEY must observe the LIMTS set by God (Hudûd Allah) in respect to women and must not encroach upon their rights in either marriage or divorce. In all situations it is the men who are reminded, corrected and reprimanded, over and over again, to be generous to women and to be kind, compassionate and just!
Sûrah an Nâs 4.119
'O you who believe! You are forbidden to inherit women against their will...'
idiot..prove an allah before you dribble your immature junk
dont LIE...wife beating (which you support) & ADULT women required to obey/subjugate & obtain male CONSENT re every facet of their life is NOTHING AT ALL akin to KIND/COMPASSIONATE/JUST
you lack the mental capacity to grasp what such words even mean...these women are denied the right to even choose whether to be muslim or not, or leave the cult
you THINK enforced inequality just LOL..you are just DUMB
I feel compelled to teach you more. In general males are given a degree of sustained advantage over women due to their NATURAL INHERENT strength. That degree of advantage necessitates RESPONSIBILITY which is why the Quran constantly reminds us of the innevitable demand of responsibility, accountability and answerability to those who negelct their position by subjugating and suppressing others.
You lack the mental capacity to grasp what such words even mean... you sure do
youve already EXPOSED and many times the immorality of islam and the cause of women being so harmed/oppressed DUE TO islam giving males rights over them ...but your excuses for islam doing this are downright COMICAL
I ask you again HOW COME your allah didnt know about northern regions...or the brain re the comical junk taught re yawning LOL
why do you think homosexuality is such a way of life in ummah...per capita so much higher than west
There are numerous verses about the rights of children to respect and dignity. The same holds true for respect and the rights given to women.
Sûrah an Nûr 24.33
'... And do not, in order to gain some of the fleeting pleasures of this worldly life, coerce your slave women into whoredom if they are desirous of marriage, and if anyone should coerce them, then, verily, after they have been compelled (to submit in their helplessness), God will be much forgiving, a dispenser of grace (to them).
During the time of the Prophet (saw) punishment was inflicted on the rapist on the solitary evidence of the woman who was raped by him. Wa'il ibn Hujr reports of an incident when a woman was raped. Later, when some people came by, she identified and accused the man of raping her. They seized him and brought him to Allah's messenger, who said to the woman, "Go away, for Allâh has forgiven you," but of the man who had raped her, he said, "Stone him to death." (Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud)
During the time when Umar (raa) was the Khalifah, a woman accused his son Abu Shahmah of raping her; she brought the infant borne of this incident with her to the mosque and publicly spoke about what had happened. Umar (raa) asked his son who acknowledged committing the crime and was duly punished right there and then. There was no punishment given to the woman. (Rauf)
So for you to say that the rapists is victimised and subjugated under Islamic law is baseless and totally FALSE
Islamic legal scholars interpret rape as a crime in the category of "Hiraba".
In Fiqh-us-Sunnah, hiraba is described as: a single person or group of people causing public disruption, killing, forcibly taking property or money, attacking OR raping women (hatk al arad), killing cattle, or disrupting agriculture.
These are the Juristic verdicts from prominent TRADITIONAL Muslim scholars. So activities which disrupt society and rape are clearly FORBIDDEN contrary to your perceptions
The famous jurist, Ibn Hazm, defining a hiraba offender as:
One who puts people in fear on the road, whether or not with a weapon, at night or day, in urban areas or in open spaces, in the palace of a caliph or a mosque, with or without accomplices, in the desert or in the village, in a large or small city, with one or more people making people fear that theyll be killed, or have money taken, or be raped (hatk al arad) whether the attackers are one or many."
Rape as hiraba is a violent crime that uses sexual intercourse as a weapon. The focus in a hiraba prosecution is the accused rapist and his intent and physical actions, and not second-guessing the consent of the rape victim. Hiraba does not require four witnesses to prove the offense, circumstantial evidence, medical data and expert testimony form the evidence used to prosecute such crimes.
LEARN that this applies for BOTH the genders. Don't be scared to LEARN the TRUTH
dribbling your 'brainwashed' wishes doesnt negate/excuse the FACT that your own prick mohammed WAS A RAPIST
muslim women report they'd never dare report rape as WE SEE JUST THIS WEEK what happens to rape victims - how FILTHY, how sick eh!
islam SHOWS that it has NO REGARD for females or rights...and if you were smarter you would KNOW what the effects of of unnatural unhealthy repression and forbidding of normal m/f contact...we SEE THE RESULTS in ummah with obscene levels of sexual crime
We see the results of Female sexualisation consumerism and exploitation in America which is the so called Land of liberty... need I remind you of ALL those horrenous statistics! In a land that promotes liberty without acknowledging its consequences is BOUND to fall under such decadence! In a land that frowns upon restraint and limits people are BOUND to get assaulted! This is why 1 out of every 6 American women are RAPED and SEXUALLY ASSAULTED
They ARE NOT accepted you idiot. Acts of CRIME occurs in a ANARCHICAL society where Governance no longer yield power. Why don't you interpret invents according to its Socio/historical CONTEXT.
Iraq - WAR
Afghanistan -30 years OF WAR
Pakistan - WAR
Bosnia - WAR
What happens in YOUR society occurs DURING governance! LOL
Each school of Islamic law has held that where a woman is harmed through sexual intercourse (some include marital intercourse), she is entitled to financial compensation for the harm.
Further, where this intercourse was without the consent of the woman, the perpetrator must pay the woman both the basic compensation for the harm, as well as an additional amount based on the diyya (financial compensation for murder, akin to a wrongful death payment).
The crime of rape is classified not as a subcategory of zina (consensual adultery), but rather as a separate crime of violence under hiraba. This classification is logical, as the "taking" is of the victims property (the rape victims sexual autonomy) by force. In Islam, sexual autonomy and pleasure is a fundamental right for both women and men (Ghazâlî); taking by force someones right to control the sexual activity of ones body is thus a form of hiraba.
Hiraba does not require four witnesses to prove the offense, circumstantial evidence, medical data and expert testimony form the evidence used to prosecute such crimes.
Islamic legal responses to rape are not limited to a criminal prosecution for hiraba. Islamic jurisprudence also provides an avenue for civil redress for a rape survivor in its law of "jirah" (wounds).
That is a absolute lie yet again. All you do is distort facts.
IN FACT you don't even sigh evidence or references! What I have said is extensively documented in Juristic text books of Islam!! I just sighted several TRADITIONAL scholarly opinions YET you have the nerve to say I am lying!
Aisha.. yeah, and if that wasn't a direct example of pedophilia then I don't know what is, lol.
Mrdragon, please justify to us why a Sudanese journalist working for the UN, was arrested at a cafe in Khartoum by Public Order Police, was charged and is facing trail with a sentence of 40 lashes... for wearing trousers!?
Also, why The Syariah High Court sentenced a model to a large fine and six whippings after she pleaded guilty to consuming an alcoholic drink in public...
That is not pedophilia since pedophilia was none existent if we were to apply our living standards1400 years ago unless you had sex with a girl below the age of 7 since the Roman Empire ordained marital consent as young as 7... In fact the Common Law was perfectly happy with marital consent at ages of 10-12.
Islam came along and raised that age to 9 1400 years ago WITH parental consent and dowry (as a male obligation towards the wife)
Circumstances change but the conditions and prerequisites to marriatal relationships are STILL applicable and practical to this day!
In Islam a female must pass the age of puberty and have the ability to give INFORMED CONSENT before and marriage contract can be authorised. Also Parental Consent is Highly recommended in Islam.
You idiot there are TWO distinguished prerequisites.
No1) Naturally Mature(puberty)
AND
No2) Being able to give INFORMED consent
You continually humiliate your self.
Aisha (ra) was NOT prepubescent when she consummated the marriage and girls back then were very ABLE to given informed consent. LEARN and ACKNOWLEDGE shifts in society . Stop being so closed minded
Don't lie to me with your gibberish. I am a Muslim and I know very well that Aisha (ra) was NOT prepubescent at the time of her consummation. She was 9 (or even HIGHER since the ages or disputed) which she HER SELF attested. Again YOU are judging based on OUR PRESENT mentality and circumstances.
Legal Age of Consent is NOT 18 where I live you silly person. In the UK people can have sex at the age of 16. Teenage pregnancy is becoming a common thing amongst underclass districts.
I dont care whether you're muslim or hindu...what on earth do you mean with such ignorant junk as 'girls back then were able to give INFORMED consent' LOL
youre saying a child now wasnt a child then...yet SHOULD KNOW that average age of ONSET of puberty was far later then than today - now you didnt know that FACT did you
you're one of the dummies who believes nonsense like 'girls mature faster in hot climates' etc LOL
Don't you know (DUMB atheist) that conditions after the industrial (18th century) ERA CHANGED development in mental maturity... LIVING conditions changed and SHIFTED which means people did NOT HAVE to get married at such young ages any more.
Psychological maturity has been delayed in OUR Modern Times, & the age of marriage has been raised in 17 Muslim countries due to Shari'a laws (and NOT secular laws)
Islam is the best ♥
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the recitator is hfz. Aziz Alili
mulamustafa14 4 months ago
the recitator is hfz. Aziz Alili
mulamustafa14 4 months ago
I would like to visit Bosnia.... so beautiful Azan
bigNur1 5 months ago
amazing but in translation, is this a sunni prayer, referring to shia prayer when saying there is no God but God? sunni is allah only and shia includes the Imams also, so Is that why they specify only one god? only Mohammed?
vryundy 5 months ago
@vryundy There is only one God.... that is the most basic belief in Islam, that is why it is said. This is the call to pray, which is heard 5 times a day in a Muslim country regardless of Sunni or Shia. Mohammed is not God. He is a messenger and Prophet.
JiasJewels 3 months ago
@JiasJewels There is only one God and it isn't yours! You are all in the service of the beast Satan. May you all go to him soon. Filthy unwashed dammed people of the Devil. You are 100% evil ! The world will be rid of you soon. Mohammad was a con man your all so stupid and ignorant. This new year will be your last. Rot in hell blood soaked infidels!
CherylTheJew 2 months ago
So beautiful
kirpaangad 6 months ago
Very beautiful. thank you for this. I love the caller's voice!
hookedontheoldstuff 8 months ago
so beautiful!!!!!!
jwoodard621 9 months ago
As a Christian who has served overseas in Iraq and Afghanistan I come back and listen to the call to prayer just because of the beauty of it.
afleausa 9 months ago 4
This ezan is a bosnian ezan!
mulamustafa14 1 year ago
@mulamustafa14
He's Arabian but in Bosnia. Fool
KatiushaVN4 10 months ago
Awesome, although I'd consider adding some reverb and a guitar solo.
lichad3 1 year ago
Love and blessings to all.
Americanluvunit 1 year ago
Beautiful !
Blessings on you, my friend !!
karthikeyanp1 1 year ago
Allahu akbar!!! I took my shahada at the masjid on October 22, 2010 and I will never turn back,. I love Islam and everything it stands for....this video is beautiful and i thank you for posting it
emorygal 1 year ago 13
@emorygal Alhamdulillah. :) Jazakallah for your comment. :)
Just out of curiosity... Do you happen to go to Emory?
I'm going to apply to Emory next year, insha'Allah. :) Although, I'd like to attend a northern university, so it isn't my first choice.
shanc1193 1 year ago
@shanc1193 i go to emory in virginia....
emorygal 1 year ago
@emorygal SubhanAllaah. May Allaah strengthen you.
ThoseWhoSubmit 1 year ago
@ThoseWhoSubmit thank you so much for the encouragement :)
emorygal 1 year ago
@emorygal Why did you convert to Islam? I am asking because I am studying Islam and it seems very interesting.
Bravesfan4500 7 months ago
@Bravesfan4500 I converted to Islam because the more I studied it....the more I saw the truth in Islam, the peace, and the beauty. A few months into my study of the religion, I saw a muslim pray, in person, for the first time. That is what made me make my final decision. There are absolutely no contradictions, no flaws whatsoever in the Qur'an and there is more peace in Islam than in any other faith. Send me a private message if you want to learn more. I would be happy to help in any way i can
emorygal 7 months ago
if i start to bash 30000 islamic nerds are going to bash me back
tasto124 1 year ago
@tasto124
Haha. Excellent point. So why start, then?
shanc1193 1 year ago
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It should be that, " I testify that there is no God but Allah.".
SoloPersian 1 year ago
its supposed to be "There is no God but Allah."
SoloPersian 1 year ago
A-rabs this practice which they claim is islam is nothing but arab culturalism but if you don't know you don't know what ever they wont to say they along with the other two segments that make up the abrahamic triad all give praise to "Amen Ra" at the end of their prayers its not an Arabic word or in the Qu'ran for those zellots grinding thier teeth as soon as you read a surah you add it, as son as you finish dua you add it but you do not know the history you were told you did not reserch crazy!!
Mrzeroplusone 1 year ago
@Mrzeroplusone Yikes! Ever heard of of commas, periods, semicolons, or exclamation marks? That is the craziest run on sentence I have ever seen in my life! I would know, I am a secretary!
aminaormuminah 1 year ago
@aminaormuminah isn't it great to have a free hand and a free mind make your own rules in this free world it's how you don't end up being indoctrinated. A perfect example is the original Qu'ran had no grammer that was added mush later so what does that tell a person with a free mind? Even the great Allah use to just go with the flow I guess he needed a secretary too:
Mrzeroplusone 1 year ago
@Mrzeroplusone Astafirighlla!!! How dare you speak of Allah (subhanahu wa T'ala) in such a manner!!!
aminaormuminah 1 year ago
@aminaormuminah thank you for your comment & just incase you missed it I spoke not of your Allah but of those who added grammar to a text that originally had no grammar in it unless you have no knowledge of Quranic history or Islamic history, if you believe in your trusted Hadiths then you will know that muhammad said three generations after him the people would no longer be of him meaning those in the so called middle east who think they own Islam and that true islam would come from the west.
Mrzeroplusone 1 year ago
@Mrzeroplusone No, you did insult Allah by saying "He needed a secretary too." Allah needs no one. I am a revert from the U.S., and all your so called intelligent ramblings are giving me a headache, once again because of your lack of punctuation. The only person you impress is yourself.
aminaormuminah 1 year ago
@aminaormuminah The fact that you even refer to yourself as a revert tells me some one is teaching you how to think and stealing your mind I suggest you study history an those who write the books your reading its that kind of mental entrapment thats make people think they can blow people up & gain access to heaven & get 70 virgin for what I don't know & wine that wont let you get drunk, women can have the same but they only whisper about that one - what is a taklihumma as the Imam. Salaams
Mrzeroplusone 1 year ago
@aminaormuminah hears an easy one if someone is telling you that fasting is about knowing what it must feel like to be hungry so that you can have empathy for less well off well you have a long way to go, the core of the teaching is about the self most people have know idea what that even means, they think its about how many rakas they do exactly on time or how many book they read. Again I did not insult your god you speak of gramma yet you understand me, Qu'ran had no gramma that is a FACT!!
Mrzeroplusone 1 year ago
@Mrzeroplusone where u get ur info from couz there is more than billion Muslem dont know that !!! lol
pulman7 1 year ago
@pulman7 there are more bhuddists so what does that prove, you need to go study zoroaster then come back and tell me about islam
Mrzeroplusone 1 year ago
@Mrzeroplusone there is more bhuddists in some country in east Asia
they r more by breath !
but Islam in every city in the world .
what mean zoroaster ?
pulman7 1 year ago
@pulman7 Zoroaster is a religion of persian origin and eastern islam has many customs that were taken directly from this religion dress code, circumambulation, seven angels, but please dont listen to me study the history and bare in mind it was at least 1000 years before islam. the main thing to understand is that the feminine principal was removed from the abrahamic triad and made a masculine theology which is why religion is in the state its in. No books fell from the sky NONE!
Mrzeroplusone 1 year ago
@Mrzeroplusone of you want study the real history from Adam until Tomorrow
study Islam !
this info in Quran 1440 years ago !
watch?v=9frgs8lUNac
pulman7 1 year ago
@pulman7 no thanks i only deal with primary sources for real history that can be proven by science and a free mind, 1400 years ago was just yesterday, i suppose adams children had relations with each other did they the story does not even make common sense but each to there own i told you to study zoroaster and this was your response? best of luck to you
Mrzeroplusone 1 year ago
@Mrzeroplusone if you mean books made by Mason and Illuminati who is rule most media and books you read now !
sorry to say there is no luck in that
and i dont under stand 1400 years ago its like yesterday ?
do you have book talk about History and this book over 1400 years ago ?!
did you believe in dainsours yet ?:))
Good luck any way !
pulman7 1 year ago
@Mrzeroplusone
Incorrect. ZoroastrianISM is the religion. Zoroaster, or Zarathushtra as he is called in Persian, is the Prophet who preached it. Yes, Islam and Zoroastrianism do share many qualities, but that's because Zarathushtra was most likely the prophet sent to the Persians. There were 124,000 Prophets. I believe that Zarathushtra was one of them.
shanc1193 1 year ago
@shanc1193 Well you may think that but you are going to need to sight some primary source and references to back that up - Zoroaster did not promote towheed in any shape or form and was the first to discribe a devil as you have it believed by many today, 124,000 prophets? come on stop that you cannot prove a single one, not one only stories passed from the jews to the christians and so on where are the artifacts of these phrophets around the globe and there teachings its all I ask not stories?
Mrzeroplusone 1 year ago
@Mrzeroplusone Alright. While I go find my sources, you can thumb through a grammar/spelling book. Deal? LOL, you haven't been citing ANY primary sources to prove YOUR points, so why should I?
According to Zarathushtra, Ahura Mazda is the ONE God. Even though modern day Zoroastrians also worship Yazatas as angels, this could have come into the religion later on (similar to Sufi saint worship). "Yazatas" can also simply be concepts or aspects of God.
shanc1193 1 year ago
@Mrzeroplusone Zoroaster's statement that they are worthy of worship is probably not literal. Next, Zarathushtra believed in free will and rejected monasticism (both are aspects of Islamic belief). He believed in a malevolent Ahriman (comparable, like you said, to the “devil”). He believed that good would triumph over evil when a Saoshyant (comparable to the Islamic concept of the Mahdi) would come to Earth. I don’t see any issues here.
shanc1193 1 year ago
@Mrzeroplusone According to the Zoroastrian “Zadspram,” the world arose in battles between elements, similar to the Islamic idea that the universe arose as the result of ‘the big bang.’ Zoroastrianism and Islam both believe in a Paradise and a Hell. “Sirat,” the Islamic bridge over Hell, is also mentioned in Zoroastrian scripture as “Chinvat.” Zoroastrians believe in a Judgment day. They also offer 5 daily prayers and prohibit the worship of idols.
shanc1193 1 year ago
@Mrzeroplusone From your point of view, Zoroastrianism influenced other religions; from my point of view, the religions are all similar because they come from the same place. Go anywhere, and I promise you’ll find “artifacts” attributed to the Prophets (PBUT). Did these things REALLY belong to them? Eh. Who knows? Anyway, of course I can’t PROVE them to you. That’s why it’s called “faith,” buddy.
shanc1193 1 year ago
@aminaormuminah most people believe things if they are told it often enough or if they have been told it their whole life, they take on faith that which they have neither questioned or researched ask yourself why Islam in the east equates to politics an Islam in africa equates to spirituality how quickly they forget that the first place the muslims went to for safety when they were being killed was in East Africa & want to turn around later an call people kuffar its ok when it suits
Mrzeroplusone 1 year ago
I wish my brothers and sisters with Ramadan
Akucha1000 1 year ago
I just love to hear a Muslim Brother call for prayer! No disrespect to anyone of this BELIEF, because i am not! I Pray this right now, that all leaders of all beliefs, LEAD your Believers to the ONE AND ONLY "GOD", whatever he go by to you! Strive for "GOD" the way you strive for that money, or that house, or and even for your family. There is so much to be learned from "OUR CREATOR", AND EACH OTHER! PLEASE, EVERYONE, Time is short! YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD, NOW YOUR RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS!
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I testify there is no God but God and Jesus is his son.
I confess Jesus is lord
rrmfg 1 year ago
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Muslim religion is a bloody religion , violence is in their blood .The founder of this religion established it by cutting head of those who did not accept his filthy ideology .His morality was corrupted ,by taking a five year old child has his wife later taking his daughter-n-law has his wife .shame Muslims
hallo200hello 1 year ago
woah Re lesson! :-O
Tris4l1fe 1 year ago
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I shit in Allahs mouth
unitedstatesdale 2 years ago
@unitedstatesdale FUCKING BIN LADEN! BIN LADEN'S MY HERO!
Tris4l1fe 1 year ago
zulfitareen 2 years ago
@zulfitareen @zulfitareen I accept your challenge.
The book Iranians in the Qur'an and Traditions by Ali Abtahi mentions that a wall with characteristics mentioned in the verses of the Qur'an exists in the Dariel passage in the Caucasus mountains, and that there is even a stream nearby which is called "Saeres" by the locals. According to this source, local Armenians called this wall "Behag Gurai" (meaning "The passage of Cyrus").
hammadhaider 1 year ago
@hammadhaider nice try.
before you go any further, google, " alexander romance", and read about that barrier in derbent, russia. it is located at the end of caucassian moutain at the shores of black sea.
read the whole article, you will understand what i am trying to explain.
zulfitareen 1 year ago
@zulfitareen Peace (Salaam)
hammadhaider 1 year ago
@hammadhaider
i am trying to raise awareness against religion.
people are actually dying, believing they will get 72 virgins.
zulfitareen 1 year ago
@zulfitareen I understand, but there is much we need to learn and this is not the correct forum for any true scholar to raise his or her awareness. You suggested your book. I have suggested my book. We are at a impasse. Peace (Salaam)
hammadhaider 1 year ago
@zulfitareen poeple will not get 72 virgins only Martyr
xxxx407 1 year ago
@zulfitareen The Quran is the word of Allah not Muhammad,because this latter was a illiterate, how do you believe that an illiterate describes the stages of pregnancy since 14 centry? look to the sourate 22 verse 5
xxxx407 1 year ago
this is very nice but i think no matter what language you speak God's name is Allah,
there is no God but Allah.
replenishJ 2 years ago
Thank you for translation, well done, mashaAllah
ElegantByNature 2 years ago
Bosnian Adhan is the best:)Selam alejkum to all my brothers and sisters!Your bosnian brother
Musliman20 2 years ago
Alhamdulillah!
conrad234 2 years ago 6
Allahu ak bar
beautiful voice mashallah May Allah(swt) send peace and blessing upon our beloved prophets amin
May Allah(swt) also send peace and blessing upon his Ummah inshallah amin
ps. Assalamu Alaykum to my beloved sisters and brothers around the world
Islamisourwayoflife 2 years ago 7
Beautiful, Video Actually Love The Du'a and, The Prayer Mash'Allah May There Be Peace Upon All Muslims, and The World That God has Given Us...!!!
linarw23 2 years ago
truly beautiful. i want play prince of persia now
Cockoblock 2 years ago
selam aleykum brothers from
KOSOVA-UK
MASHALLAH
ALLAH IS 1 the
ONLY 1 ALLAH Bless everybody
PEACE
MrBallist 2 years ago
Mashallah
OmarChannel 2 years ago
Try having to listen to this shit at 5am every fucking morning! muslims have absolutely no goddam respect or consideration for the peace and tranquillity of of others people! Stop living in the stone age and praying to an invisible fucking sky daddy you noisy cunts! This is a perfect example of religious conditioning, or should I say brainwashing!
polarsequence 2 years ago
you burn with your godless brothers for this words i hope
edigoktoni 2 years ago
I'm quite happy for you to go live your barbaric ways with your pretend god, just don't push your shit onto everyone else, or is that too difficult for your weak-minded intellect to understand?
polarsequence 2 years ago
Where do you live?
In the UK and the States we don't make the call for prayer out loud for the morning prayer.
Whilst you filthy turds are sleeping most faithful sane minded people go and worship their creator.
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
again you show such IMMATURITY - 'you' who calls victims of wife beating THE PERPETRATOR and who totally supports such vile treatment of woment 'for your allah' calls others who are not weak/immoral/brainwashed/backwardly ignorant like you 'filthy turds'
first prove an allah before you keep dribbling your mindless garbage showing how gullible you are..remember MILLIONS of desperates have tried, NOT ONE has come up with single shred of ANYTHING to support allah or creationism theory LOL
proudfemale 2 years ago
lol
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
'Filthy turds', hmm, I think you have the wrong context here. It should be something like this: I was just wondering, how much of a sexually oppressed chauvinistic moron do you have to be, to truly believe that when you die, a paradisical Disneyland complete with 40 virgins is waiting to welcome you! Besides, what do the women get when they die? Probably raped by all you filthy turds instead.
polarsequence 2 years ago
70 to be correct ^_^
don't be jealous
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
Oh by the way Mr Grand.. err Dragon? I'm from the UK, a place where you salacious parasites breed like feral rats that infest our culture with your vile, dogmatic, hate-fuelled beliefs and intolerant ignorance! Islam is nothing more than a virus, polluting its foul germs across Europe with the intention of eradicating the freedom and liberalism our forefathers bitterly died for in the second world-war. Just remember what happened to the Nazi's when they tried it you fuckers!
polarsequence 2 years ago
We infest your culture? By blowing bombs in you tube stations? WOW
The irony
I guess Obama being a sympathetic to Muslims is also infesting America with Islam and its "vile dogmatic hate fuelled beliefs" LMO
Ignorance!
Muslims have Virus? Like Swine Flue? Do Muslims eat Pork?! WOW
We want to eradicate freedom! Which is why more and more White Women convert to Islam in Latin American and the States! WOW
The second World War was governed by Zionism.
Ignorance! LMAO
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
I suppose being such a devoted (read brainwashed) follower of Islam, you also support Sharia law. A law that still convicts women who have been gang raped, then condemns them to death by stoning, because the Qu'ran interprets this as committing adultery. Please do not try to justify this sick and vile 'religion' and dictate its so-called peaceful ways when such monstrous acts of atrocity are commonplace in strict Islamic nations and remain an integral part of Sharia Islamic law.
polarsequence 2 years ago
During the time of the Prophet (saw) punishment was inflicted on the rapist on the solitary evidence of the woman who was raped by him. Wa'il ibn Hujr reports of an incident when a woman was raped. Later, when some people came by, she identified and accused the man of raping her. They seized him and brought him to Allah's messenger, who said to the woman, "Go away, for Allâh has forgiven you," but of the man who had raped her, he said, "Stone him to death." (Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud)
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
stop your GARBAGE...your own dirty prick mohammed was a rapist...he took, kept, raped slaves and told his men it was also their RIGHT TO DO SO
you're pitiful...a very DIRTY DIRTY and ignorant little 'scared wimp of your mythical allah'
go stick your ass in the air...I had you absolutely TIED UP IN KNOTS making an idiot of yourself as you tried to defend the known errors in your man made koran LOL
proudfemale 2 years ago
In 2007, there were 248,300 victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault! That is in the land of Liberty and freedom LMAO
Every 2 minutes, someone in the U.S. is sexually assaulted!!
1 out of every 6 American women have been the victims of an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime (14.8% completed rape; 2.8% attempted rape).
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
and WHAT are the rape stats in Pakistan/India eh
in the west victims are freely able to report rape, get help...not so in your ummah where your leaders report its RAMPANT also, and a way of life
your own dirty prick mohammed RAPED...so why do you think muslims think such is therefore quite ok - they even USE islam as their defence in court
remember the Skilaf case in Australia....how DISGUSTING eh
proudfemale 2 years ago
In India females are FREE to report Rape but the fact is MOST cases of rape are NOT reported even in America. Most women choose not to report Rape for their own safety and dignity. In our Ummah a female like in the time of the prophet would be able to FREELY report Rape and the perpetrator would be prosecuted.
Again you disregard everything I mentioned like a immature Old granny ^_^
I can gather your frustration. Keep it up
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
Islamic law designates ownership rights to each part of ones body, and a RIGHT to corresponding compensation for ANY harm done unlawfully to any of those parts.
Islamic law calls this the LAW OF JIRAH (wounds). Harm to a sexual organ, therefore, entitles the person harmed to appropriate financial compensation under classical Islamic jirah jurisprudence. Each school of Islamic law has held that where a woman is harmed through sexual intercourse, she is entitled to financial compensation!!
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
your FILTH/IMMORALITY knows no bounds
islam CAUSES millions of young girls to be harmed through sexual intercourse....and islamic leaders teach that sodomy with an infant is quite ok but if you harm them ...etc.....can you imagine a religion quite so repulsive as this that they fail to comprehend that AN ADULT ERECT DICK OR FINGER WILL ALWAYS HARM/DAMAGE AN INFANT
and here you are , yet again, blithely dribbling away trying to EXCUSE/RATIONALISE such filth to innocents
proudfemale 2 years ago
Sexual intercourse causes harm? WOW
I think you should report that to a scientists! It may stop the dramatic premeditated murder rates in America! LOL
Oh and can you prove me that islamic scholars teach that Sodomy is okay? Isn't sodomy to do with homosexuality? Kinda like how priests rape little Boys?!
Again you confuse our modern realities with the realities of the past. To be honest I wouldn't expect such a incompetent old granny such as your self to understand LOL
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
You say Islam causes young girls to be harmed? LOL
Marital Rape
The Quran is very clear that the basis of a marital relationship is love and affection between the spouses, not power or control. Rape is unacceptable in such a relationship!
Sûrah ar Rum 30.21
Sûrah al Baqarah 2.187
Sûrah al Nisa 4.19
Read and LEARN. This is how you make constructive arguments you silly old Granny. Instead of stringing together insults I dissect your points and make tangible honest responses
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
indeed...islam is the provable cause of HIDEOUS LEVELS OF HARM to innocents
you 'waste' your pitiful breath quoting the man made comic book of myths/deceit/hate/sex/barbarity to me you fool....it HAS NO CREDIBILITY
dont continue to LIE....males being given RIGHTS over females, females forced to obey/subjugate to them is ALL ABOUT POWER AND CONTROL
you're so very backward ...lacking any intellect and common sense
love & affection you say ? LOL
and for the other 3 wives too>
proudfemale 2 years ago
Islamic law, with its radical introduction of a womans right to own property as a fundamental right, employs a gender-egalitarian attitude in this area of jurisprudence. In fact, there is a hadith specifically directed to transforming the early Muslim population out of this patriarchal attitude of male financial compensation for female sexual activity. (Abu Daud 1990, 3: Bk. 33, No. 4430; Bukhâri 1985, 8:Bk. 81, Nos. 815, 821, 826).
READ AND LEARN
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
Early Islam thus established that there should be no tolerance of the attitude that a womans sexual activity is something to be bartered, pawned, gossiped about, or owned by the men in her life. Personal responsibility of every human being for their own actions is a fundamental principle in Islamic thought.
Marital Rape
The Quran is very clear that the basis of a marital relationship is love and affection between the spouses, not power or control. Rape is unacceptable in such a relationship
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
kid...let me TEACH you these facts also, in addition to WHAT IVE HAD TO EDUCATE you on re embryology
rape is sexual intercourse without informed consent...dont tell us koran is clear when males have the RIGHT TO DEMAND sex - you dont have a clue whats just been being discussed in Afghanistan do you lol
your ignorance/PITIFUL EXCUSES for the filth of islam show what a DIRTY AND WEAK wimp you are - time and time again
proudfemale 2 years ago
You cant even manage to spell correctly never mind teach! Try forming a coherent sentence...I dare you LOL
Was I suppose to interpret your insults as meaningful? LMAO
Let me correct you Old granny -
Rape is sexual intercourse or sexual ASSAULT without penetration. You cant even define things properly! You are a lost cause.. sheesh
Oh and If you haven't already realise WOMEN ALSO have a right to sexual pleasure from their husbands since this is a MUTUAL RIGHT
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
Old deluded Granny let me TEACH you the facts,
The crime of rape is classified not as a subcategory of zina (consensual adultery), but rather as a separate crime of violence under "hiraba".
This classification is logical, as the "taking" is of the victims property (the rape victims sexual autonomy) by force.
In Islam, sexual autonomy and pleasure is a fundamental right for both and taking by force someones right to control the sexual activity of ones body is thus a form of "hiraba"
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
listen DIRTY DELUDED 'kid' ....the likes of you who is a 'weak submissive backward scared boy' doesnt teach me anything...understand?
I KNOW ISLAM and you continue to show you know nothing of human rights, morals, values
re pleasure...explain WHY muslims sit in silent acquiescence when your imams demand fgm be inflicted on girls...and 100+ mill.girls so affected
-wives have to supply sex on demand (& re recent islamic law being upheld)
you wouldnt have a CLUE about adult women LOL
proudfemale 2 years ago
I HAVE to TEACH and clarify my comments since you are too evidently keen on distorting and manipulating anything I give you regarding Islam.
Islamic legal responses to rape are not limited to a criminal prosecution for hiraba. Islamic jurisprudence also provides an avenue for civil redress for a rape survivor in its law of "jirah" (wounds).
Islamic law designates ownership rights to each part of ones body, and a right to corresponding compensation for any harm done unlawfully!
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
You say Males have a right to demand sex??!
Although I am perfectly aware of the references I am also aware that YOU are in fact oblivious to them. In any case I shall refute this regurgitated myth
In a marriage abusive or forced sexual activity cannot be justified by abusing ANY Prophetic tradition. It is important to not confuse the issue of mutual rights that a couple has on each other with the misguided, distorted and misogynist assumption that women become a husband's property.
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
An often misquoted and abused hadith that is used to tyrannize women is that women cannot and should not say no to their husband when he approaches them. Women are advised not to turn away from their husbands HOWEVER this hadith is not quoted with the complementary one that advises men of the same consideration towards the RIGHTS of Women and their needs!
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
Men are advised that meeting the needs of their wives takes precedence!!
Narrated Abdullah bin Amr bin Al-As: "Prophet Muhammad (saw) said, O Abdullah! I have been informed that you fast all the day and stand in prayer all night? I said, Yes, O Allah's Apostle! He said, Do not do that! Observe the fast sometimes and also leave them at other times, stand up for the prayer at night and also sleep at night. Your body has a right over you and YOUR WIFE has a right over you. (Bukhâri)
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
fasting, like circumcision,is a PAGAN ritual
HOW COME your allah obviously didnt know about northern regions re this nonsense post of yours
sadly, as always with the filth/sickness of islam, people have been KILLED for not complying with this pagan ritual
not only is it idiotic to be forbidden to drink water in earth's hottest driest temps, but downright dangerous
TELL ME WHY your allah didnt know about northern regions re the 'rules'
LOL - lets have yet another laugh
prove allah
proudfemale 2 years ago
Northern regions???!!
SPEAK ENGLISH, make sense when you want to make a point!
Can you say that again but thins time PROPERLY
You cant even formulate a coherent sentence never mind debating with me! LOL
"not only is it idiotic to be forbidden to drink water in earth's hottest driest temps, but downright dangerous"
WHAT??? LOL
Can you show me where Islam tells the people to drink water from the earth's "hottest driest temps"
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
re english..you couldnt comprehend & MISQUOTED what I said....I said forbidding of drinking water in earth's hottest driest temps (meaning countries) its not only idiot but downright DANGEROUS
of course if you had ANY INTELLECT you would know such is an irrefutable fact...the human body MUST HAVE WATER in such circumstances
re northern regions and ramadam...evidently YOU CANT PICK UP why I would say its proof of NO all knowing allah - but you are remarkably ignorant/backward
proudfemale 2 years ago
Honestly where do you get these ridiculous accusations from? Can YOU for once actually SHOW me where Islam says that??
Are you so morbidly obese that you cant even search the internet for some references??! LMAO
Do you like regurgitating deficient and flimsy accusations lodged at the back your supressed mind???!
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
You imbecile I QUOTED to you the REQUIREMENTS of fasting. The fact that requirements are neccesitated and mentioned means that Allah is PERFECTLY aware that certain areas do NOT meat these requirements.
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
When the opportunity of Ramadaan does not arrive, and the month of Ramadaan is not seen at all, then there is NO obligation to fast. The same applies to Prayers (Salaat) at such places because Allaah (SWT) says,
Verily, the prayer is enjoined on the believers at FIXED hours. [Glorious Quraan 4:103]
So, when these hours are not found, no prayer is prescribed. The condition is attached at the end of the verses.
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
but there IS sunrise and sunset in those areas LOL
you cant answer can you as to why we know your concept of an allah wasnt ALL KNOWING at all....let alone the deceit that he/she is 'merciful' or anything like it
and I ask WHY your allah didnt know about the brain re yawning, or the lifelong harm wife beating causes....or about human rights or that women would RISE UP lol
first prove an allh before you keep dribbling childish junk like 'allah is perfectly aware'...WHAT allah LOL
proudfemale 2 years ago
"So whoever of you SIGHTS (the crescent on the first night of) the month (of Ramadan i.e. is present at his home), he must observe Suam (fasts) that month, [Glorious Quraan 2:185]
Thus, when the opportunity of Ramadaan does NOT arrive, and the month of Ramadaan is not SEEN at all, then there is NO obligation to fast.
So in layman terms (for your sake), Fasting is NOT prescribed upon these people since they unable to fulfil the requirements base don their circumstances!!!
LEARN
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
you're quite DESPERATE
proudfemale 2 years ago
Sûrah ar Rum 30.21
"And among His wonders is this: He creates for you mates out of your own kind, so that your might incline towards then, and He engenders love and tenderness between you: in this, behold, there are messages indeed for people who think!
Sûrah al Baqarah 2.187
"... They are as a garment for you, and you are as a garment for them."
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
Like any typical ignoramus bigoted polemic you attempt to string together a degree of intolerable and hideous crimes and then associate it with Islam. One of these is Incest.
LET IS BE CLEAR that Incest & Child Abuse is NOT permitted at all. The Quran clearly outlines those with whom marriage is not permitted, we can extrapolate from it that any sexual relation with these would be unacceptable.
Sûrah an Nisa 4:23
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
Al Hasan reports: If somebody commits illegal intercourse with his sister, his punishment is the same as for any other person who commits such a crime. (Bukhâri Vol. 8 pp 526)
This is a AUTHENTIC narration that clearly prohibits incest
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
your koran is WHY incest is so RAMPANT and way of life in your ummah...and always has been
so why doesnt it say 'fathers with daughters'
child abuse IS PERMITTED...children are married off without possibly being able to give INFORMED consent
mutlilation with the pagan ritual of circumcision is abuse, as are the sects who CUT their children...and certainly children BEATEN for not praying properly IS ABUSE
but then you think wife beating wonderful DIRTY BOY
proudfemale 2 years ago
So let me remind you that Rape is rape and any victim of such a crime remains a victim and any perpetrator of such a crime is punished severally.
What happens in Pakistan is beyond me. It is a clear teaching that is a female is raped then that culprit is triad
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
I KNOW whats beyond you...the mental capacity to THINK for yourself
how many rape victims would have 4 witnesses or even 1?
dont LIE...rape is rampant in your ummah, as is incest/abuse/sexual deviance and the CAUSE is islam...unhealthy unnatural repression will always have unhealthy outcome, as it SHOWS it does
and YOU SUPPORT CRIME against women..you glorify DOMESTIC ABUSE/WIFE BEATING
youre a DISGUSING WEAK WIMP
proudfemale 2 years ago
Did you even read what I gave you??!! A rape victim does NOT need 4 witnesses. 4witnesses are required for adultery or fornication which is a different matter. Adultery is a mutual act... rape is a enforced infringement of ones body without consent. These two are different matter entirely.
In fact Empirical evidence suggests that MOST rapists in American are White and close relatives! So beware!
52% are white (U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Statistics.)
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
Islamic legal scholars interpret rape as a crime in the category of Hiraba. In Fiqh-us-Sunnah, hiraba is described as: a single person or group of people causing public disruption, killing, forcibly taking property or money, attacking or raping women (hatk al arad), killing cattle, or disrupting agriculture.
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
your dirty prick mohammed did all that
he raped, caused public disruption, KILLED, forcibly took property and money
and never forget wimp, your koran PROVES YOUVE BEEN LIED TO
you will NEVER be a real man...as it is the level of how 'disturbed/immoral/DIRTY' you are is very telling and on a par with islam..UTTERLY REPULSIVE
you are too scared to LEARN sources of whats in your man made book then try and preach to me...YOU, a dirty ignorant little wimp LOL
proudfemale 2 years ago
Our prophet never raped at all. He never caused public disruption and he never Killed unjustly.
"and never forget wimp, your koran PROVES YOUVE BEEN LIED TO"
HAHAHAHAH
where does it prove that??
A real man in Islam is a man who takes care of his responsibilities, who takes care of his wife, who protects her and his children.
Oh can you PLEASE tell me the source of the Qur'an? Remember the Golden Rule little Granny, always show proof
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
According to Islâm, a woman has to be respected and protected under all circumstances, whether she belongs to your own nation or to the nation of an enemy, whether she follows your religion or belongs to some other religion or has no religion at all. A Muslim cannot outrage her under any circumstances. All promiscuous relationships have been forbidden to him, irrespective of the status or position of the woman, whether the woman is a willing or an unwilling partner to the act.
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
The words of the Holy Qurân in this respect are: "Do not approach (the bounds of) adultery" (17:32). Heavy punishment has been prescribed for this crime, and the order has not been qualified by any conditions. Since the violation of chastity of a woman is forbidden in Islam, a Muslim who perpetrates this crime cannot escape punishment. (Maudoodi)
Once Again I humiliate you feeble desperate attempt to attack the religion of Islam without your hopeless array of insults and degrading rhetoric
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
Im LAUGHING that you would think your childish dribble re the FILTH DIRTY IMMORAL islam 'would ever humiliate' me
you make a pitiful IDIOT of yourself day after day trying to EXCUSE/GLORIFY the human misery/harm it causes and POSTING BRAINWASHED JUNK re embryology showing your ignorance AND the proof that youve been so LIED TO
why do you think people with values/morals know islam as UTTERLY EVIL AND REPULSIVE and the human misery is VISIBLE for all to see - except to those who lack ethics
proudfemale 2 years ago
I humiliated you so bad ^_^
Its okay little feeble Granny, I am sure someone will look after you in your Old age home once your children neglect you in chase of their aspirations.
Its a sad thought
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
you're desperation is visible with SO MANY immature posts lol
Im laughing that you refer to my children and neglect...yet again SHOWING your stupidity and ignorance
re children, if I was you I would be thoroughly ashamed/embarrassed to admit that your parents loved a pedo/rapist/liar/thief/sicko/taker of slaves/MURDERER of innocent more than they loved you even...what a sad thought
Im laughing at the crap youve written re fasting
proudfemale 2 years ago
The Quran has, in various ways and in different contexts; impressed on men that THEY must observe the LIMTS set by God (Hudûd Allah) in respect to women and must not encroach upon their rights in either marriage or divorce. In all situations it is the men who are reminded, corrected and reprimanded, over and over again, to be generous to women and to be kind, compassionate and just!
Sûrah an Nâs 4.119
'O you who believe! You are forbidden to inherit women against their will...'
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
idiot..prove an allah before you dribble your immature junk
dont LIE...wife beating (which you support) & ADULT women required to obey/subjugate & obtain male CONSENT re every facet of their life is NOTHING AT ALL akin to KIND/COMPASSIONATE/JUST
you lack the mental capacity to grasp what such words even mean...these women are denied the right to even choose whether to be muslim or not, or leave the cult
you THINK enforced inequality just LOL..you are just DUMB
proudfemale 2 years ago
I feel compelled to teach you more. In general males are given a degree of sustained advantage over women due to their NATURAL INHERENT strength. That degree of advantage necessitates RESPONSIBILITY which is why the Quran constantly reminds us of the innevitable demand of responsibility, accountability and answerability to those who negelct their position by subjugating and suppressing others.
You lack the mental capacity to grasp what such words even mean... you sure do
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
YOU teach me...this gets 'even funnier'
youve already EXPOSED and many times the immorality of islam and the cause of women being so harmed/oppressed DUE TO islam giving males rights over them ...but your excuses for islam doing this are downright COMICAL
I ask you again HOW COME your allah didnt know about northern regions...or the brain re the comical junk taught re yawning LOL
why do you think homosexuality is such a way of life in ummah...per capita so much higher than west
proudfemale 2 years ago
There are numerous verses about the rights of children to respect and dignity. The same holds true for respect and the rights given to women.
Sûrah an Nûr 24.33
'... And do not, in order to gain some of the fleeting pleasures of this worldly life, coerce your slave women into whoredom if they are desirous of marriage, and if anyone should coerce them, then, verily, after they have been compelled (to submit in their helplessness), God will be much forgiving, a dispenser of grace (to them).
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
During the time of the Prophet (saw) punishment was inflicted on the rapist on the solitary evidence of the woman who was raped by him. Wa'il ibn Hujr reports of an incident when a woman was raped. Later, when some people came by, she identified and accused the man of raping her. They seized him and brought him to Allah's messenger, who said to the woman, "Go away, for Allâh has forgiven you," but of the man who had raped her, he said, "Stone him to death." (Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud)
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
During the time when Umar (raa) was the Khalifah, a woman accused his son Abu Shahmah of raping her; she brought the infant borne of this incident with her to the mosque and publicly spoke about what had happened. Umar (raa) asked his son who acknowledged committing the crime and was duly punished right there and then. There was no punishment given to the woman. (Rauf)
So for you to say that the rapists is victimised and subjugated under Islamic law is baseless and totally FALSE
LEARN
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
Islamic legal scholars interpret rape as a crime in the category of "Hiraba".
In Fiqh-us-Sunnah, hiraba is described as: a single person or group of people causing public disruption, killing, forcibly taking property or money, attacking OR raping women (hatk al arad), killing cattle, or disrupting agriculture.
These are the Juristic verdicts from prominent TRADITIONAL Muslim scholars. So activities which disrupt society and rape are clearly FORBIDDEN contrary to your perceptions
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
The famous jurist, Ibn Hazm, defining a hiraba offender as:
One who puts people in fear on the road, whether or not with a weapon, at night or day, in urban areas or in open spaces, in the palace of a caliph or a mosque, with or without accomplices, in the desert or in the village, in a large or small city, with one or more people making people fear that theyll be killed, or have money taken, or be raped (hatk al arad) whether the attackers are one or many."
LEAR from sholars
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
Rape as hiraba is a violent crime that uses sexual intercourse as a weapon. The focus in a hiraba prosecution is the accused rapist and his intent and physical actions, and not second-guessing the consent of the rape victim. Hiraba does not require four witnesses to prove the offense, circumstantial evidence, medical data and expert testimony form the evidence used to prosecute such crimes.
LEARN that this applies for BOTH the genders. Don't be scared to LEARN the TRUTH
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
dribbling your 'brainwashed' wishes doesnt negate/excuse the FACT that your own prick mohammed WAS A RAPIST
muslim women report they'd never dare report rape as WE SEE JUST THIS WEEK what happens to rape victims - how FILTHY, how sick eh!
islam SHOWS that it has NO REGARD for females or rights...and if you were smarter you would KNOW what the effects of of unnatural unhealthy repression and forbidding of normal m/f contact...we SEE THE RESULTS in ummah with obscene levels of sexual crime
proudfemale 2 years ago
We see the results of Female sexualisation consumerism and exploitation in America which is the so called Land of liberty... need I remind you of ALL those horrenous statistics! In a land that promotes liberty without acknowledging its consequences is BOUND to fall under such decadence! In a land that frowns upon restraint and limits people are BOUND to get assaulted! This is why 1 out of every 6 American women are RAPED and SEXUALLY ASSAULTED
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
we see the result of islams paranoia/filth re female sexuality in islam...its obsessed/fixated with sex, genitalia, bodily functions
you dont have it in you to face truths/facts/reality....incest/rape/abuse/pedophilia are RAMPANT in your ummah...always have been
re decadence...LEARN ISLAMIC HISTORY and squirm with shame
its comical that you say 'frowns upon restraint' when things that happen in the ummah & accepted are CRIMES in the west
proudfemale 2 years ago
They ARE NOT accepted you idiot. Acts of CRIME occurs in a ANARCHICAL society where Governance no longer yield power. Why don't you interpret invents according to its Socio/historical CONTEXT.
Iraq - WAR
Afghanistan -30 years OF WAR
Pakistan - WAR
Bosnia - WAR
What happens in YOUR society occurs DURING governance! LOL
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
Each school of Islamic law has held that where a woman is harmed through sexual intercourse (some include marital intercourse), she is entitled to financial compensation for the harm.
Further, where this intercourse was without the consent of the woman, the perpetrator must pay the woman both the basic compensation for the harm, as well as an additional amount based on the diyya (financial compensation for murder, akin to a wrongful death payment).
LEARN what TRADITIONAL Islam teaches
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
The crime of rape is classified not as a subcategory of zina (consensual adultery), but rather as a separate crime of violence under hiraba. This classification is logical, as the "taking" is of the victims property (the rape victims sexual autonomy) by force. In Islam, sexual autonomy and pleasure is a fundamental right for both women and men (Ghazâlî); taking by force someones right to control the sexual activity of ones body is thus a form of hiraba.
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
Hiraba does not require four witnesses to prove the offense, circumstantial evidence, medical data and expert testimony form the evidence used to prosecute such crimes.
Islamic legal responses to rape are not limited to a criminal prosecution for hiraba. Islamic jurisprudence also provides an avenue for civil redress for a rape survivor in its law of "jirah" (wounds).
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
purleeze...explain why the majority of females prisoners in pakistani jails are rape VICTIMS
then tell us why muslim women say they dont dare report rape...as to do so means ostracisation/often kicked out of family/beating and even MURDER
learn why there is such discussion just 2 weeks ago about muslim males having the right to rape wives...rape is sex without INFORMED consent
and aisha at 8yrs9mths, & prepubescent, couldnt give INFORMED consent
proudfemale 2 years ago
That is a absolute lie yet again. All you do is distort facts.
IN FACT you don't even sigh evidence or references! What I have said is extensively documented in Juristic text books of Islam!! I just sighted several TRADITIONAL scholarly opinions YET you have the nerve to say I am lying!
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
Aisha.. yeah, and if that wasn't a direct example of pedophilia then I don't know what is, lol.
Mrdragon, please justify to us why a Sudanese journalist working for the UN, was arrested at a cafe in Khartoum by Public Order Police, was charged and is facing trail with a sentence of 40 lashes... for wearing trousers!?
Also, why The Syariah High Court sentenced a model to a large fine and six whippings after she pleaded guilty to consuming an alcoholic drink in public...
Womens' rights, uh?
polarsequence 2 years ago
That is not pedophilia since pedophilia was none existent if we were to apply our living standards1400 years ago unless you had sex with a girl below the age of 7 since the Roman Empire ordained marital consent as young as 7... In fact the Common Law was perfectly happy with marital consent at ages of 10-12.
Islam came along and raised that age to 9 1400 years ago WITH parental consent and dowry (as a male obligation towards the wife)
Women rights, uh?
Oh one more thing intoxicants is BAD
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
but islam is supposedly for ALL TIME...so did your allah get that wrong too
let's not kid ourselves 'dirty boy'
how unhealthy/abnormal would any 55+ yo male to get aroused/with an erect dick whilst fondling/thighing a small girl and sucking boys tongues
see how you SHOW YOUR IMMORALITY....you think WHIPPING is ok, but an alchoholic drink worthy of such harm
you are onE DIRTY DIRTY litlle coward
do you believe in INFORMED consent re marriage...yes or no
proudfemale 2 years ago
LOL
How old are you? For real? 12?
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
Circumstances change but the conditions and prerequisites to marriatal relationships are STILL applicable and practical to this day!
In Islam a female must pass the age of puberty and have the ability to give INFORMED CONSENT before and marriage contract can be authorised. Also Parental Consent is Highly recommended in Islam.
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
IDIOT and dirty weak boy....dont LIE to me
islam doesnt require INFORMED consent at all...you really ARE ONE VERY MISINFORMED AND DISHONEST
proudfemale 2 years ago
& of course the girls GET NO CHOICE
how immoral that muslim dirty wimps like you allow male scholars to dictate girls lives
and its HILARIOUS that you would ever think that ONSET of puberty makes a girl a fully matured adult woman or that a CHILD can give INFORMED consent
aisha was prepubescent too...your scholars now acknowledge that
proudfemale 2 years ago
You idiot there are TWO distinguished prerequisites.
No1) Naturally Mature(puberty)
AND
No2) Being able to give INFORMED consent
You continually humiliate your self.
Aisha (ra) was NOT prepubescent when she consummated the marriage and girls back then were very ABLE to given informed consent. LEARN and ACKNOWLEDGE shifts in society . Stop being so closed minded
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
dont LIE...it doesnt work with me
aisha was prepubescent...and NO CHILD, not then nor now, can give INFORMED CONSENT
she was age 6 when married...and you think she would even KNOW about adulthood or marriage
what makes you SO DUMB
your scholars say girls can marry at age 9....and many many dont give INFORMED consent
why do you think legal capacity is around age 18
what would that indicate to even a backward dirty boy like you?
proudfemale 2 years ago
Don't lie to me with your gibberish. I am a Muslim and I know very well that Aisha (ra) was NOT prepubescent at the time of her consummation. She was 9 (or even HIGHER since the ages or disputed) which she HER SELF attested. Again YOU are judging based on OUR PRESENT mentality and circumstances.
Legal Age of Consent is NOT 18 where I live you silly person. In the UK people can have sex at the age of 16. Teenage pregnancy is becoming a common thing amongst underclass districts.
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
I dont care whether you're muslim or hindu...what on earth do you mean with such ignorant junk as 'girls back then were able to give INFORMED consent' LOL
youre saying a child now wasnt a child then...yet SHOULD KNOW that average age of ONSET of puberty was far later then than today - now you didnt know that FACT did you
you're one of the dummies who believes nonsense like 'girls mature faster in hot climates' etc LOL
she WAS prepubescent
proudfemale 2 years ago
Such ignorance!!!
Don't you know (DUMB atheist) that conditions after the industrial (18th century) ERA CHANGED development in mental maturity... LIVING conditions changed and SHIFTED which means people did NOT HAVE to get married at such young ages any more.
Psychological maturity has been delayed in OUR Modern Times, & the age of marriage has been raised in 17 Muslim countries due to Shari'a laws (and NOT secular laws)
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
NONSENSE kid...you're DUMB through & through
dont you as a weak dirty muslim wimp DARE try and tell me, a health professional, that ONSET of puberty means ADULT MATURITY lol
what of the child who gets a first period at age 6 yrs due to the medical condition that brings such on
YOU are claiming such a child is a fully matured adult LOL....you really are quite deluded lol
so Im an atheist...and you presume dumb because I dont believe in myths/taught stories like you, a submissive,does!
proudfemale 2 years ago
OH!! So you are a Health Professional
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Oh and LET ME REPEAT for the so called "professional" HAHAHA
ITS NOT ONLY biologic