You all are focusing too much on our detainment center at Guantanamo Bay, you're forgetting that the CIA had actual torture facilities in places like Bulgaria and Egypt, etc. During the Cold War the CIA trained countries like: Honduras, Chile, etc., how to torture people.
You got sent to Guantanamo AFTER they got through with hooking your nuts up to car batteries and beating you senseless day after day.
And the NDAA law now says that Americans can be sent to these same torture facilities.
"So you would cut down the law to get at the devil? And when the last law was cut down and the devil turns around on you where would you hide , all those laws made flat. Do you realy think you could stand upright when the wind blows then? Yes ! I give the devil the benefit of the law for my own safety sake ! "
Sir Thomas Moore, High Lord Chancellor of England -Executed 1535
When we allow the law to permitt torture we do far more harm than the terrorist could have dreamed for!
@tehubernessofuber Hitler would be proud to see that we've got our own concentration camp. Sounds fun doesn't it. To be tortured without trial simply because you're arab and have a beard. We offered cash rewards for poor tribes in the middle east for possible terrorists. The people they offered the rewards to are the kind that would give someone their mother if put in that situation.
Recently an innocent man who was tortured for 6 years in Gitmo was released. Hundreds of the prisoners have been innocent. 21 children have been imprisoned being as young as 13. Cut the shitty offensive jokes. There is no excuse for this. The founding fathers would be sick and Hitler would be proud.
@johnnyboy2537 Hitler would be offended that this is what passes for 'evil' nowadays. Did you not pay attention to ANYTHING he said? You wanna compare us to Hitler? Fine. Hitler murdered thousands of innocent people without giving it a second thought. Were we actually like HITLER, everyone IN Gitmo would already be dead, and half of anyone who said anything we were doing was wrong would be in there as well.
Chinese water torture relies on something that is incosequential in small doses but done enough it cna be worse than lots of seemingly worse things. Saying the enemey does worse things is also not a defense.
@rhemirs your just a little stupid huh.You couldn't get what he was saying it would be a cake walk if all they wanted to do was laugh at you naked.Dose that make it easy for you i know it hurts your brain to think
@skaterockerstar Yes of course NAvy seals to through it. If yor family is on a plane that ha a bomb would you be willing to water board a terrorist for that information
So since they are torturing us, we must lower our standards to torture them? And btw, you have no idea the anguish going through water boarding so how can you make light of it?
The most epic thing is that water-boarding revealed the identity of the courier who eventually led US intel forces to Bin Laden............OMG IT WORKS?
@SovereignStatesman hes not making light of it...hes being sarcastic because its ridiculous...did you hear the forms of "torture" we are using? but the one time a soldier uses waterboarding and is now not in the military (dishonorable discharge) everybody hangs on that one issue. i mean playing childrens music is now torture? man...thats terrible maybe we should blow em up like the terrorists are doing to us...idiot...
However, I don't support the war on terror anymore because it's not a war. It's another Vietnam quagmire police state. It only took 4 years to defeat the Axis Powers of Europe and Asia during WW2.
Do you want to know another country that used water boarding? The Nazis. So that should say something about how "harmless" it is. Along with that Japanese soldiers were executed for using water boarding against Americans at the following WWII because it's seen as a war crime to torture.
Also you can't justify by actions like torture because someone else does it worse. Saddam Hussein could have justified his atrocities the same way by saying "hey I'm not that bad look at what Hitler did".
@Amblue33 Ok....What about the experimental bone transplants the Nazis did? Without any pain killers btw. Water boarding really isn't that bad and it really isn't that wrong. It kinda sucks but then again so does having your head cut off with a knife on TV or did you forget about that? They are terrorist if "torturing" them with these elevated techniques means us preventing a guy from blowing himself up along with civilians I am all for it. Once again TERRORIST Geneva convention doesn't apply.
You could use that same argument to justify anything. Saddam Hussein could say "hey I'm not that bad look at what Hitler did". The US shouldn't be slightly better than the Nazis or terrorist groups. Water boarding isn't that bad? According to who? You, some guy who has never been water boarded or even knows what it is? The Geneva convention applies to everyone not just uniformed soldiers, I suggest you read it Article IV of the Geneva conventions.
@Amblue33 The terrorist lost their rights the day they killed thousands of innocent people in a surprise attack. I am sorry but water boarding is not dangerous the U.S. navy seals are water boarded as part of their training. We are not fighting another army or country and if they do not obey the Geneva conventions at all why should we treat them better than our own prisoners. Get over yourself we are all human and innocent lives are at stake.
Except the problem with that statement is that as many as 90% of the people we detain in Afghanistan are innocent civilians. What do you think the innocent Afghan who we just tortured is going to do when he sees terrorists placing an IED down the road for Coalition forces? Do you think he's going to go back to the people who just tortured him or keep his mouth shut? Seals signed up for that training, are aware it's training, and only experience a very limited version.
@Amblue33 The people who were water boarded were high ranking terrorist or well known terrorist sympathizer not random people they pulled off the streets in Afghanistan. The torture tactics were used to prevent large scale terrorist attacks, find weapon stashes, find high ranking terrorist, etc. There were also very strict rules when water boarding and were troops are tortured more than the terrorist as part of their training. Remember Guantanamo bay has a small population of terrorist.
“We were talking about torture in general not just waterboarding. 108 prisoners have died in American custody, most of them violently.
Along with that a classified number have been killed in CIA custody like Mandadel al-Jamdi who was basically killed by being crucified by a CIA interrogator and Abdul Wali who was beaten to death by a CIA contractor. That's only a few of the people we know about.”
@Amblue33 K....But you failed to mention that 108 have died out of about 65,000 people who have been taken into custody in Iraq and Afghanistan this includes natural causes, self defense, etc. There were probably a few that were killed inappropriately but I don't really see how a 0.1% fatality rate is so bad especially in a war scenario. This is a war there will be deaths, and the actual number is probably very close to that.
Of those 65,000 the vast majority were innocent civilians who had nothing to do with terrorism and of the 108 killed were most due to violent means. Along with that the number of prisoners killed under US custody is much higher if we include those killed during the Dasht-i-Leili massacre in which 250-3000 Taliban prisoners were killed. I'm sure you wouldn't be spouting off about "how this is war there will be deaths" if you were directly affected either.
@Amblue33 Yes most were civilians that is why they were released. It is a war on terror/we are fighting an enemy that hides among civilians. When something suspicious happens you don't take chances. Once again 108 deaths is a very small amount and how many of them killed each other? How many tried to attack a guard? How many died of natural causes? Over 8 years only 108 dead prisoners out of 65,000 is probably a world record. Afghanistan's Abdul Rashid Dostum was in charge of the prisoners.
Again most of those deaths were violent, not "natural cases". Where does it say in the Geneva Convention that we're allowed to torture to death around 13 prisoners every year? The US signed and ratified the conventions and is thus is supposed to follow them. Yeah your right, an ally of the US killed several thousand prisoners alongside US special forces who watched. I guess Saddam is off the hook as well because he didn't directly kill civilians either, just his generals.
@Amblue33 Ok but who said those people were torchured? What if they attacked the guards?
The Geniva Convension was signed at a time of standard war between countries. How do you suppose we deal wih terrorist?
Sadam was higher ranking than his generals, where the soliders were lower ranking than the commander big difference. The U.S. troops had nothing they could do legally because overregulation makes doing the right thing incredibly difficult.
Maybe it wasn't all torture but either way prisoners shouldn't be being killed while under our control except under circumstances of self-defense. The Geneva Conventions apply to all wars not just when it's convenient. Insurgencies existed long before the conventions and the countries that signed them knew that. Over regulation? Have you ever served in the military? I served in Iraq and giving the excuse that something is over regulated doesn't justify war crimes.
@Amblue33 But there is almost no evidence saying that any of the deaths were not in self defense. The reality is that the fraction of fatalities is so small that foul play shouldn't even be an issue.
Correct but what war are we currently fighting? We don't have a nation to defeat and the people we are fighting have no problems killing innocent people.
Many (not all) soldiers fear prosecution so they simple ignore war crimes instead of stopping them. They don't want to but they do.
US forces have so much control the detainees through the use of guards, cells, restraints, and cameras that the idea that that close to 100 were killed in self-defense isn't even worth arguing about. It doesn't matter that we're not fighting a standing army, we're occupying their country and fighting insurgents like dozens of other countries have done in the past. Nothing is new about this concept except for the weapons used.
@Amblue33 There is something new about it, India didn't blow up civilians in England, nor did the South Africans, etc. We are in the middle east with the goal of them leading themselves and protecting ourselves. For the most part our soldiers do a wonderful job bringing food and other supplies to the people of the region while simultaneously supporting a democracy. It is not perfect but reform takes time and dedication.
The only reason these people are attacking us is because we're occupying their countries. We would be doing the same thing here if they invaded and occupied the US. I actually had similar views to you before I deployed. The majority of Iraqis I met though told me things had been better under Saddam. They didn't have to worry about suicide bombers or errant guided bombs killing them. We can claim to be there for the most noble reasons but actions speak louder than words.
@Amblue33 I support all or nothing strategies. I don't like how we had 100k people in Iraq. I believe if we are going to prevent terrorist from entering a country we should have at least doubled that because if we can prevent militants and arms from entering the country we will maintain control. Or we could target the people funding the terrorist AKA Iran. I don't support the Afgan war.
Our intentions our good and they would still be attacking us, we were not in Iraq before they attacked us.
Invading Iraq has increased terrorism sevenfold. We were not in Iraq before "they" attacked us? Are you unaware of the US support for Saddam during the 1980s? The Gulf War which killed over 100,000 Iraqis among them 2,300 civilians? The sanctions which killed 800,000 Iraqis, most of them children? Or the constant bombing of their country during the 1990s? The 1991 uprisings which we initially supported that resulted in the deaths of 180,000 civilians?
@Amblue33 I was aware that the U.S. attacked Iraq in the 90s but I am also aware that Iraq attacked and looted it's neighbor Kuwait. Many of the civilians involved were traveling or station with soldiers.... The uprisings were the results of Saddam killing his own people as we watched from the sidelines. As for the Iran Iraq war in the 80s we were supporting the lesser of the 2 evils.
We are the peacekeepers of the world. Just as Britain was, the Romans were, etc.
The US provided Saddam with the chemical weapons that he used on his people during the late 1980s and it wasn't even a question of supporting the "lesser of two evils", the US provided Iran weapons covertly during the Iran-Contra affair. I'm not in favor the US being like Britain who put Boer civilians in concentration camps or the Romans who slaughtered whole villages, I'd rather the US be concerned about helping it's people rather than waging unnecessary wars.
@Amblue33 Uh how exactly did we provide Iraq with chemical weapons? The Iran Iraq war lasted into the late 80s. Look at the countries that Britain controlled, India. United States, Canada, Australia, South Africa (compared to the rest of Africa), etc. Most have become successful countries and were much worse before. Same goes for the early Romans, they were very successful in bringing unity but both countries fell when they adopted more socialized attitudes.
Reagan and Bush both authorized providing Iraq with intelligence and logistical support, and okayed the sale of dual use items — those with military and civilian applications — that included chemicals and germs, even anthrax and bubonic plague
You forgot to mention Nigeria, the Gold Coast, Cameroons, Sudan, Kenya, Uganda, Zanzibar, Burma, Sri Lanka, Papa New Guinea, Iraq, Egypt, Sierra Leone, Yemen, UAE, and Oman just to name a few. They were also under British rule.
Reagan and Bush both authorized providing Iraq with intelligence and logistical support, "
And that, in turn was because Iraq was the enemy of Iran, which seized US hostages in response to the US appointment of the Shah.
Intervention is a quagmire with no bottom; that's why the Founders held a policy of "peace and free trade with all nations, binding entanglements with none."
But the corporate juggernauts who think we should put our foot in every one of them-- FOLLOW THE MONEY.
If you think that war is bad for a country then look at a few points in history - Revolution brought unity to the country, 1812 brought unity to the country and the U.S. was recognized on a global scale, WW1 industrialized the country U.S. became a super power and brought great wealth to the country, WW2 reinforced WW1 standing and brought even more economic wealth. N. Korea vs S. Korea which is better off? Vietnam was pointless. As long as there are evil people & conflict there will be war.
Where did I ever say that wars were never necessary? I'm not in favor of pointless wars like Iraq and Afghanistan which get thousands upon thousands of people killed especially considering they weren't necessary in the first place. The Taliban offered to extradite OBL prior to the US bombing them and Saddam Hussein offered hold elections and allow US troops to search for banned weapons to prevent a war. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Actually there's never BEEN a necessary war in US history.
There was also never a CIVIL war in US history, it was a war of OLIGARCHY over the sovereign states.
After that, the US became an empire, and its many wars were to expand globally under the pretense of "spreading democracy...." just like every empire claims benevolence.
WW1 started because the Reconstruction barons BANKRUPTED the US economy, and the new military-industrial complex wanted to sell WEAPONS overseas.
@SovereignStatesman If you think that there has been a necessary war in the history of the US, then you don't believe that the US needed to exist. We needed to fight a war to earn the right to exist as our own nation. Funny you talk about the constitution, but without fighting a war against our oppressors in england, there would be NO Constitution. Any "statesman" would understand a simple concept as self defense. Its childish to think that countries will exist without war.
"We needed to fight a war to earn the right to exist as our own nation."
You just sunk your own battleship; the US NEVER existed as a nation, since the 1783 Treaty of Paris recognizes each of the states to be free, sovereign and independent unto ITSELF-- not collectively.
And that was a war of REBELLION, not national defense-- you can't defend nations that doesn't even exist yet.
After that, the US started every major war it got into, starting in 1812.
@SovereignStatesman Never existed? wtf are you talking about? Carolina and the south tried to secede because of what you said here and what happened? Civil War and now its illegal to secede. the US is a nation WITH free, sovereign and independant states that can make their own laws etc. Doesnt mean we arent a nation. and we have started every major war? not true...did we start WWII? no we were one of the last countries to join. Did we start the war in afghanistan? no 9/11...
@SovereignStatesman really? your telling me im wrong? you must not have taken ANY history lessons and not follow the news man. WTF do you mean we "OFFICIALLY" didnt start WWII? We werent even a world power until after words. People like you who think america is stupid and has started every war are just anarchist freaks that dont know whats going on. You didnt even give any evidence that i was wrong. you just said i have my head up my ass. oh your so smart Mr. awesomeness.STFU
@Zigz15 "you must not have taken ANY history lessons and not follow the news man."
Yeah. writing something doesn't make it TRUE, dummy!
"We werent even a world power until after words"
"After words" ROTLFMAO
Read about how it REALLY HAPPENED. FDR made secret attacks and unilateral treaties against Germany AND Japan, which BEGGED for peace before Pearl Harbor but FDR wouldn't listen; he also made secret alliances with Britain to back them if they declared war on Germany.
@SovereignStatesman omg i made typo i must have no clue what im talking about.
all your doing is quoting me and saying ROTLFMAO which btw way is not spelled right so you just lost at your own game.
Sure what your saying is kind of true...Japan did not beg for mercy. not even close. the only reason we got involved with them is because of Pearl Harbor. before that barely anything ever went on between us. your so frustrating to fight against because the 500 character limit...
A basic grammatical error is not a "typo," it's a display of ignorance.
>"Japan did not beg for mercy. not even close"
FACT: In August 1941, Prime Minister Prince Konoye offered to meet President Roosevelt in Washington to negotiate in an effort to prevent war. Roosevelt rejected Konoye's offer.
1. it is a typo...ive been up for about 2 days now and im tired get over it you did it to
2. that information is from an obscure website that i bet 99% of people have never heard of and is from a .com and therefore not reliable
3. under the impression that it is true, however, it does not state specifics of the peace offering...the japanese probably asked for something in return.
@Zigz15 " it is a typo.." Saying "after words" instead of "afterwards" is NOT a typo, it is a display of illiteracy. "..ive been up for about 2 days now" The REASON for your stupidity, doesn't change the FACT of it LOL "hat information is from an obscure website that i bet 99% of people have never heard of and is from a .com and therefore not reliable" Even if it's TRUE... wow you're an abject moron. "It does not state specifics of the peace offering." SO? "dont say duh" DUH!
@SovereignStatesman its a typo...the fact that i have a masters in education and literature says it is. so fuck you. so what if the specifics of the peace offering was give Hawaii to us and we wont attack you? would you have taken that offer? NO dont be so fucking immature about it dude. debate me like a man not like a 2 year old with a major disability. youve only given me one reason why im wrong and it was illegitimate then you just keep harping on the fact i had a typo
Sorry I can't respond, since you said that you "wont be reading or responding to it since it will waste my precious time" therefore you didn't write anything ROTFLMAO
@SovereignStatesman asshole. you dont know everything. in fact you seem like someone who reads one obscure website and believes what he says
5. feel free to reply. however i wont be reading or responding to it since it will waste my precious time. But since you are probably sitting in your mamas basement you can satisfy yourself anyway you wish. Good day kind sir.
"you seem like someone who reads one obscure website and believes what he says"
Or who checks the FACTS, unlike you who believes everything you HEAR, drinks the kool-aid and then screams like a castrated lapdog against everyone who counters it.... yep, you got your story and you're stickin' to it!
"i wont be reading or responding to it since"
Yeah yeah, since you're an illiterate dumbass. Your "grammar" alone proves that.
It makes me feel good to see progressives and libertarians coming together in this forum to reject this guy's selective argument. I disagree with a lot of libertarianism, but at least I understand they have a sense of rational and humanity.
@FutureMarineDevilDog If what we did to our seals was even remotely comparable to what we did to alleged terrorists you might have a point. Do a little research before shooting your mouth off and looking like a dumb ass.
@insdel2004 ok so where do u find this information, oh wait i think i know, its some crazed left media bullshit isnt it. have you even thought of what the other side does to our soldiers. just because you dont agree with me does not make me a dumb ass
@FutureMarineDevilDog I'm not going to do your research for you. Look it up yourself. Also it doesn't matter "what the other side does to our soldiers" two wrongs don't make a right.
This is a playground for people who want to argue like assholes. They are going to use ad hominem attacks, or say "I bet you LIKE dead Americans" and stupid bullshit like that. They don't want to actually make a point, they just want to make you mad. There are some people that respect human life. Just because we don't want people tortured in OUR defense, doesn't mean we like abortion. It doesn't mean we hate America. It doesn't mean we support Obama. How about we talk like ADULTS!?!?
@VitalemRecords I think the torture issue is a tough one, considering almost every prominent nation around the globe uses one form of "interigation" or another to extract information. Not to indicate that you are a Obama supporter, but the President himself has continued to use the secret prisons and torture methods he condemed during his campaign, which in many cases has led to some very prominent terrorist figures being brought to justice or executed. It's not a pretty world out there.
@commonsenseforUSA The proof is the video that I commented on. The guy cherry picks information in order to make blanket statements. He depicts sleep deprivation as someone politely waking someone up. His logic isn't true. He would be perfect for Faux News. The guy is being so misleading and ignorant, I can only surmise that he's mocking people that have this opinion.
Who in their right mind would defend actions when they don't even know what really happened, and what they DO read - distort
@ben62860 I wouldn't even call what we do them torture. It's more like... Slight discomfort. But of course I bet the idea of a muslim beheading an american photographer and filming it was a-ok in your book huh?
@Nightsblood192 wooooooow these are dangerous people, dangerous my ass. these are ordinary combatants who were picked up from Afghanistan for comfort only, to provide a psychological comfort for the American people, some of them were picked up from here... say what? well they sympathizers, next time when something outrageous happens the GOV will put you behind bars because your head is big:)
911 was an inside job. The guys in guantanimo are innocent... that's why everyone that has been tried in a court of law has been released. It's been proven that torture does not extract confessions. The info gathered at the Nuremberg trials were gathered by not using torture... dumb-da-dumb-dumb-dumb.
Waterboarding is pretty hairy. You have to be a seal to handle it. Granted its no cigarette to the eye, but you, Steven Crowder, would not be able to handle it.
just gonna say this. the regan DOJ is the only DOJ to call waterboarding torture, so yes legally speaking we do torture people and our soldiers. but our soldiers need the training aska navy seal. look for mancow gettinging WB he doesnt even make it 10 seconds.
What we do is torture? I would hate to know what people think of what Samolians did to our dead soldiers in the early 1990's. Or what they think of that 27 second video of the terrorists hacking off the head of a U.S. official with a knife. He wasn't even a military official! When that 27 second video was released to the public people got over the U.S. ass for taking pictures of our soldiers smiling as they take care of the dead enemy combatates.
@luckyStrike89ru What is it with you conservatives ? Quality doesn't matter if it comes from a conservative ?
I saw fifth graders who were better actors. Or look around at YT, there are masses of Comedians who are much better (who don't get paid for it and/or won't be featured on Fox..)
Another thing is that if you're trying to do political comedy, you should know a little bit about politics, history, society, etc. Crowder clearly doesn't.
@mullsen He has more intellectual background in one pubic hair than you have in that entire louse-infested crotch afro. Who gives a shit about his acting talents? It's an internet comedy video - not Schindler's List; and he's a comedian - not an actor.
Liberal trolls never seem to have anything intelligent or relevant to say. Typical.
well u sure practice ur freedom of speech. i watch all ur videos and all i can see is that u are lack of knowledge on the stuff u been talking and u so self centered on ur own ideology. my advise is try to go out and do some REAL research. maybe u'll see whats really happening in this world, rather than stay in ur comfort zone n show how stupid u are. join peace core u might learn something.
haha, your an idiot, all kinds of torture was happening at gitmo and anyone who agrees with innefective methods such as torture should have to experience it.
you know whats funny about this video is not its content, its how it didnt mention rendition programs and the fact that people in abughraib where mostly not even political disidants to begin with..
its not torture thats the issue. the real issue is the remarkable willingness to waste perfectly innocent and untrialed peoples lifes, on this "annoying" BULLSHIT.
if i force you even in a 5 star hotel, away from your life and your plans and loved ones for just 1 year. youd be super pissed. asswipe.
There's no such thing as Muslim terrorists because if you are a terrorist YOU CAN NOT BE MUSLIM...and if you are a Muslim YOU CAN NOT BE A TERRORIST...
Quran 005:032
...That if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people
But how do you know what is REALLY going on at Guantanamo? Prove that it isn't torture and that ALL the detainees are actually terrorists. It seems so simple why hasn't Obama done it yet? I thought he was a liberal?
fuck this video, and fuck this faggot host, fuck his faggot friend for letting him pat and put his mouth on his stomach, fuck this whole comment and fuck every other commentor on this video, fuck youtube for recommending this to me
A. If you play the same song over and over 24 hrs a day , no matter how silly the song , you can cause psychological damage makes a cute , silly joke but it's not the song it's the repetitive nature , idiot
B. Seals know they won't die being water boarded so comparing that to a guy having it done 40 , 50 times and w/ Beatings who knows he could die is absurd.
C. Majority of people at Guantanamo were picked up for bounty and are innocent .
Steven I love your videos but unfortunately the way to ending violence is not treating your enemy as they treat you. That simply escalates problems. I know people ask: "Why should we treat them nicely if they don't treat us the same?" and the answer is that we are the better country. We want all of this violence to end, so we must demonstrate peace and do as we say.
@SuperSkateboarder10 No, get out with that bullshit. Crowder's awesome. And yes, I can read Arabic, though I'm not the best with the formal seeing as I'm more used to my dialect. You forgot to connect the last two words, by the way. And you made the third and fourth words one long word. You might want to work on that.
LOL He actually made me laugh for the first time about Islamic evil, violent, hatefilled, stupid garabge. Thanks... Death to America, what a bunch of idiots Islamic people are, as if America was even around to cause any of their problems, in the scheme of things, America just showed up a short while a go you imbred, Islamic pigs...
How could you really think that can't mess around to get information out of Islamic terrorists, they don't mind killing us by cuts (slowly). These men have no compassion for any of the people they kill. Do you think that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has any compassion or grief for what he planned on 9/11/2001. Please respond, I would like to know your thoughts.
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you should beware what they say. The ones who is in guantanamo haven't been through the law system and people honestly don't know if someone is tortered but haven't comitted any crime...
@TheLordObamessiah I Don't hate america, i have never used drugs. I AM NOT A PARASITE. I do not support violence at all, and i do in some ways like some of the communist ideolegy. Most of the americans i meet is actually really nice. And then there is the other's wich really ruins it all for the other people.
and you know what some people don't like U.S.A because of your statement's. You have no proof that iam a "terrorist" or a "american hating person". And it is completely ignorance too.
LOL! auritone just goes on and on about how America is at fault for all the bad things in the world, even centuries before the United States existed, and how the Muslims are all peace loving people who do good and have been harassed by the evil U.S., and how America and Israel are the only true terrorists.
These liberals have such a burning hatred for America and a great love for criminals, communists, terrorists and other perverted, dishonest, immoral vermin!
Way to generalize. We arent Communists, dishonest (well there are dishonest people on both sides, but its more apparent on the right-wing) and we arent "immoral" whatever you mean by that. This is really all I hear from the right wingers when they describe the left wing. Just slander to get people to agree with you. By scaring them into your way of thinking
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Fuck america...bunch of the biggest hypocrities on the planet....drone attacks in pakistan, illegal invasion of iraq, aghanistan, libya....WTF maan...do we need nazis...when we have americans
@majesticmaniac Lol, you're obviously brainwashed. It's wasn't illegal to invade Iraq, NATO was with us and the UN voted to invade Iraq. BTW, We have no soldiers on the ground in Libya and France is in charge of military operations but I agree we shouldn't be there but we have to support our allies like they did us in Iraq and Afghanistan. To have peace you gotta fight for it. Get your head out of your ass.
@orangeblood307 Actually, I think we have ground troops in Libya. You never know the truth with this government. But otherwise, you're right, to an extent. I'm no fan of the wars, and I don't think the war was constitutional (I'm a Ron Paul fan, so you know where i"m coming from). Otherwise, I have to give you some credit for keeping a civil response, unlike mine. Haha
@rhinnawi95 Yeah, I love Ron Paul but I was in favor of invading Iraq a decade ago but my views on that have changed since. I wouldn't doubt that we have troops on the ground in Libya, if so, Obama should be impeached for lying every chance he gets.
@failurbanik These people see America as responsible for all the bad in the world for all of human history & they see terrorists as "freedom fighters". The fact that the terrorists would kill them for their ultra-liberal views, that terrorists deliberately target innocent men, women & children, etc., doesn't matter to them. But in going after the terrorists, using extremely expensive weapons, designed to be very accurate to avoid harming innocents, they'll scream murder!
NDAA = American citizens getting renditioned to torture sites.
When you get there, tell us how fun it is getting slapped in the face and beaten with rubber tubes.
lazer1million 1 day ago
You all are focusing too much on our detainment center at Guantanamo Bay, you're forgetting that the CIA had actual torture facilities in places like Bulgaria and Egypt, etc. During the Cold War the CIA trained countries like: Honduras, Chile, etc., how to torture people.
You got sent to Guantanamo AFTER they got through with hooking your nuts up to car batteries and beating you senseless day after day.
And the NDAA law now says that Americans can be sent to these same torture facilities.
lazer1million 1 day ago
1. Terrorists are far worse then torture.
2. If there's information we need and they don't give it up willingly then torture is all that's left.
So America get over it. Torture is okay when were using it to protect us. If you wanna die then go to iraq and Iran. If not stop your complaining.
iamwhoiamthatsalliam 4 days ago
"So you would cut down the law to get at the devil? And when the last law was cut down and the devil turns around on you where would you hide , all those laws made flat. Do you realy think you could stand upright when the wind blows then? Yes ! I give the devil the benefit of the law for my own safety sake ! "
Sir Thomas Moore, High Lord Chancellor of England -Executed 1535
When we allow the law to permitt torture we do far more harm than the terrorist could have dreamed for!
MrMaxTruth 1 week ago
@tehubernessofuber Hitler would be proud to see that we've got our own concentration camp. Sounds fun doesn't it. To be tortured without trial simply because you're arab and have a beard. We offered cash rewards for poor tribes in the middle east for possible terrorists. The people they offered the rewards to are the kind that would give someone their mother if put in that situation.
johnnyboy2537 1 week ago
@2:50 lol @ unibrow
weseyedwalk 1 week ago
hahahaha good one, fuck the leftists and their kind, anywhere anytime
Schwyndfst 2 weeks ago
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MetalBru01 2 weeks ago
Recently an innocent man who was tortured for 6 years in Gitmo was released. Hundreds of the prisoners have been innocent. 21 children have been imprisoned being as young as 13. Cut the shitty offensive jokes. There is no excuse for this. The founding fathers would be sick and Hitler would be proud.
johnnyboy2537 2 weeks ago
@johnnyboy2537 Hitler would be offended that this is what passes for 'evil' nowadays. Did you not pay attention to ANYTHING he said? You wanna compare us to Hitler? Fine. Hitler murdered thousands of innocent people without giving it a second thought. Were we actually like HITLER, everyone IN Gitmo would already be dead, and half of anyone who said anything we were doing was wrong would be in there as well.
tehubernessofuber 1 week ago
Chinese water torture relies on something that is incosequential in small doses but done enough it cna be worse than lots of seemingly worse things. Saying the enemey does worse things is also not a defense.
DRDFOX 2 weeks ago
i like the fact that there is people like you defending their believes
but you really don't know what are you talking about
i love 24 too but that's a tv show not real life
rhemirs 3 weeks ago
so let me get this straight
if terrorists captured you and get you naked and take pictures you'll be thanking god
i'm not an expert but i think you need some professional help
rhemirs 3 weeks ago
@rhemirs your just a little stupid huh.You couldn't get what he was saying it would be a cake walk if all they wanted to do was laugh at you naked.Dose that make it easy for you i know it hurts your brain to think
ugotcatfish 2 weeks ago
@rhemirs you missed "if I got off that easy"
dadinky 2 weeks ago
funny video thanks
rhemirs 3 weeks ago
and if you could talk to us about how president arafat died i'll really appreciate it
rhemirs 3 weeks ago
love your videos
please if you could talk to us about abou gharib that will be great thanks
rhemirs 3 weeks ago
@skaterockerstar Yes of course NAvy seals to through it. If yor family is on a plane that ha a bomb would you be willing to water board a terrorist for that information
lilpeaceacrap 3 weeks ago
So since they are torturing us, we must lower our standards to torture them? And btw, you have no idea the anguish going through water boarding so how can you make light of it?
skaterockerstar 4 weeks ago
The most epic thing is that water-boarding revealed the identity of the courier who eventually led US intel forces to Bin Laden............OMG IT WORKS?
KillaGorilla13 1 month ago
@KillaGorilla13
You believe we assassinated Bin Laden in Pakistan? Do you also believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus as well?
Are you a man-child who watches 24 reruns and wants to cut off childrens toes because they might tell you some information?
Or are you just some sick loser, who's never even see combat (Like I did in Iraq.) and who talks all day about how tough they are?
This shit isn't funny, and the governemnt is fucking lying. But lil nazis like you eat it up
lazer1million 1 day ago
WOW, let's make light and fun of our government TORTURING people!
HA HA!
I guess waterboarding isn't torture because W-Chimp said so!
SovereignStatesman 1 month ago
@SovereignStatesman hes not making light of it...hes being sarcastic because its ridiculous...did you hear the forms of "torture" we are using? but the one time a soldier uses waterboarding and is now not in the military (dishonorable discharge) everybody hangs on that one issue. i mean playing childrens music is now torture? man...thats terrible maybe we should blow em up like the terrorists are doing to us...idiot...
Zigz15 1 month ago
What about the waterboarding, freezing people to death, and other tortures?
Apparently the US government thinks that it they do it outside the US, the Constitution doesn't apply.
Obviously the government has run amuck and has become the final judge of its own powers.
What the military does to others today, the cops to do US tomorrow!
SovereignStatesman 1 month ago
Right on bro!!
However, I don't support the war on terror anymore because it's not a war. It's another Vietnam quagmire police state. It only took 4 years to defeat the Axis Powers of Europe and Asia during WW2.
Let's get the job done and come home already!
eweutuberider 1 month ago
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eweutuberider 1 month ago
Geez, this guys argumentation is really weak:
1) If I got caught be these terrorists...
2) Navy Seals do it too (yeah genius, with consent it's not torture)
3) Liberals are stupid
This guy probably thinks he's smart. Douche!
blammblamm 1 month ago
guys who gives a fuck enjoy the video
ThatGuyWhoDosentcamp 2 months ago
Do you want to know another country that used water boarding? The Nazis. So that should say something about how "harmless" it is. Along with that Japanese soldiers were executed for using water boarding against Americans at the following WWII because it's seen as a war crime to torture.
Also you can't justify by actions like torture because someone else does it worse. Saddam Hussein could have justified his atrocities the same way by saying "hey I'm not that bad look at what Hitler did".
Amblue33 2 months ago
@Amblue33 Ok....What about the experimental bone transplants the Nazis did? Without any pain killers btw. Water boarding really isn't that bad and it really isn't that wrong. It kinda sucks but then again so does having your head cut off with a knife on TV or did you forget about that? They are terrorist if "torturing" them with these elevated techniques means us preventing a guy from blowing himself up along with civilians I am all for it. Once again TERRORIST Geneva convention doesn't apply.
StupidCommentsMademe 2 months ago 2
@StupidCommentsMademe
You could use that same argument to justify anything. Saddam Hussein could say "hey I'm not that bad look at what Hitler did". The US shouldn't be slightly better than the Nazis or terrorist groups. Water boarding isn't that bad? According to who? You, some guy who has never been water boarded or even knows what it is? The Geneva convention applies to everyone not just uniformed soldiers, I suggest you read it Article IV of the Geneva conventions.
Amblue33 2 months ago
@Amblue33 The terrorist lost their rights the day they killed thousands of innocent people in a surprise attack. I am sorry but water boarding is not dangerous the U.S. navy seals are water boarded as part of their training. We are not fighting another army or country and if they do not obey the Geneva conventions at all why should we treat them better than our own prisoners. Get over yourself we are all human and innocent lives are at stake.
StupidCommentsMademe 2 months ago
@StupidCommentsMademe
Except the problem with that statement is that as many as 90% of the people we detain in Afghanistan are innocent civilians. What do you think the innocent Afghan who we just tortured is going to do when he sees terrorists placing an IED down the road for Coalition forces? Do you think he's going to go back to the people who just tortured him or keep his mouth shut? Seals signed up for that training, are aware it's training, and only experience a very limited version.
Amblue33 2 months ago
@Amblue33 The people who were water boarded were high ranking terrorist or well known terrorist sympathizer not random people they pulled off the streets in Afghanistan. The torture tactics were used to prevent large scale terrorist attacks, find weapon stashes, find high ranking terrorist, etc. There were also very strict rules when water boarding and were troops are tortured more than the terrorist as part of their training. Remember Guantanamo bay has a small population of terrorist.
StupidCommentsMademe 2 months ago
@StupidCommentsMademe
“We were talking about torture in general not just waterboarding. 108 prisoners have died in American custody, most of them violently.
Along with that a classified number have been killed in CIA custody like Mandadel al-Jamdi who was basically killed by being crucified by a CIA interrogator and Abdul Wali who was beaten to death by a CIA contractor. That's only a few of the people we know about.”
Amblue33 2 months ago
@Amblue33 K....But you failed to mention that 108 have died out of about 65,000 people who have been taken into custody in Iraq and Afghanistan this includes natural causes, self defense, etc. There were probably a few that were killed inappropriately but I don't really see how a 0.1% fatality rate is so bad especially in a war scenario. This is a war there will be deaths, and the actual number is probably very close to that.
StupidCommentsMademe 2 months ago
@StupidCommentsMademe
Of those 65,000 the vast majority were innocent civilians who had nothing to do with terrorism and of the 108 killed were most due to violent means. Along with that the number of prisoners killed under US custody is much higher if we include those killed during the Dasht-i-Leili massacre in which 250-3000 Taliban prisoners were killed. I'm sure you wouldn't be spouting off about "how this is war there will be deaths" if you were directly affected either.
Amblue33 2 months ago
@Amblue33 Yes most were civilians that is why they were released. It is a war on terror/we are fighting an enemy that hides among civilians. When something suspicious happens you don't take chances. Once again 108 deaths is a very small amount and how many of them killed each other? How many tried to attack a guard? How many died of natural causes? Over 8 years only 108 dead prisoners out of 65,000 is probably a world record. Afghanistan's Abdul Rashid Dostum was in charge of the prisoners.
StupidCommentsMademe 2 months ago
@StupidCommentsMademe
Again most of those deaths were violent, not "natural cases". Where does it say in the Geneva Convention that we're allowed to torture to death around 13 prisoners every year? The US signed and ratified the conventions and is thus is supposed to follow them. Yeah your right, an ally of the US killed several thousand prisoners alongside US special forces who watched. I guess Saddam is off the hook as well because he didn't directly kill civilians either, just his generals.
Amblue33 2 months ago
@Amblue33 Ok but who said those people were torchured? What if they attacked the guards?
The Geniva Convension was signed at a time of standard war between countries. How do you suppose we deal wih terrorist?
Sadam was higher ranking than his generals, where the soliders were lower ranking than the commander big difference. The U.S. troops had nothing they could do legally because overregulation makes doing the right thing incredibly difficult.
StupidCommentsMademe 2 months ago
@StupidCommentsMademe
Maybe it wasn't all torture but either way prisoners shouldn't be being killed while under our control except under circumstances of self-defense. The Geneva Conventions apply to all wars not just when it's convenient. Insurgencies existed long before the conventions and the countries that signed them knew that. Over regulation? Have you ever served in the military? I served in Iraq and giving the excuse that something is over regulated doesn't justify war crimes.
Amblue33 2 months ago
@Amblue33 But there is almost no evidence saying that any of the deaths were not in self defense. The reality is that the fraction of fatalities is so small that foul play shouldn't even be an issue.
Correct but what war are we currently fighting? We don't have a nation to defeat and the people we are fighting have no problems killing innocent people.
Many (not all) soldiers fear prosecution so they simple ignore war crimes instead of stopping them. They don't want to but they do.
StupidCommentsMademe 2 months ago
@StupidCommentsMademe
US forces have so much control the detainees through the use of guards, cells, restraints, and cameras that the idea that that close to 100 were killed in self-defense isn't even worth arguing about. It doesn't matter that we're not fighting a standing army, we're occupying their country and fighting insurgents like dozens of other countries have done in the past. Nothing is new about this concept except for the weapons used.
Amblue33 2 months ago
@Amblue33 There is something new about it, India didn't blow up civilians in England, nor did the South Africans, etc. We are in the middle east with the goal of them leading themselves and protecting ourselves. For the most part our soldiers do a wonderful job bringing food and other supplies to the people of the region while simultaneously supporting a democracy. It is not perfect but reform takes time and dedication.
StupidCommentsMademe 2 months ago
@StupidCommentsMademe
The only reason these people are attacking us is because we're occupying their countries. We would be doing the same thing here if they invaded and occupied the US. I actually had similar views to you before I deployed. The majority of Iraqis I met though told me things had been better under Saddam. They didn't have to worry about suicide bombers or errant guided bombs killing them. We can claim to be there for the most noble reasons but actions speak louder than words.
Amblue33 2 months ago
@Amblue33 I support all or nothing strategies. I don't like how we had 100k people in Iraq. I believe if we are going to prevent terrorist from entering a country we should have at least doubled that because if we can prevent militants and arms from entering the country we will maintain control. Or we could target the people funding the terrorist AKA Iran. I don't support the Afgan war.
Our intentions our good and they would still be attacking us, we were not in Iraq before they attacked us.
StupidCommentsMademe 2 months ago
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Amblue33 2 months ago
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Invading Iraq has increased terrorism sevenfold. We were not in Iraq before "they" attacked us? Are you unaware of the US support for Saddam during the 1980s? The Gulf War which killed over 100,000 Iraqis among them 2,300 civilians? The sanctions which killed 800,000 Iraqis, most of them children? Or the constant bombing of their country during the 1990s? The 1991 uprisings which we initially supported that resulted in the deaths of 180,000 civilians?
Amblue33 2 months ago
@Amblue33 I was aware that the U.S. attacked Iraq in the 90s but I am also aware that Iraq attacked and looted it's neighbor Kuwait. Many of the civilians involved were traveling or station with soldiers.... The uprisings were the results of Saddam killing his own people as we watched from the sidelines. As for the Iran Iraq war in the 80s we were supporting the lesser of the 2 evils.
We are the peacekeepers of the world. Just as Britain was, the Romans were, etc.
Would you prefer Nazi's?
StupidCommentsMademe 2 months ago
@StupidCommentsMademe
The US provided Saddam with the chemical weapons that he used on his people during the late 1980s and it wasn't even a question of supporting the "lesser of two evils", the US provided Iran weapons covertly during the Iran-Contra affair. I'm not in favor the US being like Britain who put Boer civilians in concentration camps or the Romans who slaughtered whole villages, I'd rather the US be concerned about helping it's people rather than waging unnecessary wars.
Amblue33 2 months ago
@Amblue33 Uh how exactly did we provide Iraq with chemical weapons? The Iran Iraq war lasted into the late 80s. Look at the countries that Britain controlled, India. United States, Canada, Australia, South Africa (compared to the rest of Africa), etc. Most have become successful countries and were much worse before. Same goes for the early Romans, they were very successful in bringing unity but both countries fell when they adopted more socialized attitudes.
StupidCommentsMademe 2 months ago
@StupidCommentsMademe
Reagan and Bush both authorized providing Iraq with intelligence and logistical support, and okayed the sale of dual use items — those with military and civilian applications — that included chemicals and germs, even anthrax and bubonic plague
You forgot to mention Nigeria, the Gold Coast, Cameroons, Sudan, Kenya, Uganda, Zanzibar, Burma, Sri Lanka, Papa New Guinea, Iraq, Egypt, Sierra Leone, Yemen, UAE, and Oman just to name a few. They were also under British rule.
Amblue33 2 months ago
@Amblue33
Reagan and Bush both authorized providing Iraq with intelligence and logistical support, "
And that, in turn was because Iraq was the enemy of Iran, which seized US hostages in response to the US appointment of the Shah.
Intervention is a quagmire with no bottom; that's why the Founders held a policy of "peace and free trade with all nations, binding entanglements with none."
But the corporate juggernauts who think we should put our foot in every one of them-- FOLLOW THE MONEY.
SovereignStatesman 1 month ago
@SovereignStatesman And yet, Jefferson, a founder himself, led the first war against islamic terrorism during the first barbary war...
darkdaej 1 month ago
@darkdaej
I'm sure you think you have a point there, but it's on your head.
SovereignStatesman 1 month ago
If you think that war is bad for a country then look at a few points in history - Revolution brought unity to the country, 1812 brought unity to the country and the U.S. was recognized on a global scale, WW1 industrialized the country U.S. became a super power and brought great wealth to the country, WW2 reinforced WW1 standing and brought even more economic wealth. N. Korea vs S. Korea which is better off? Vietnam was pointless. As long as there are evil people & conflict there will be war.
StupidCommentsMademe 2 months ago
@StupidCommentsMademe
Where did I ever say that wars were never necessary? I'm not in favor of pointless wars like Iraq and Afghanistan which get thousands upon thousands of people killed especially considering they weren't necessary in the first place. The Taliban offered to extradite OBL prior to the US bombing them and Saddam Hussein offered hold elections and allow US troops to search for banned weapons to prevent a war. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Amblue33 2 months ago
@Amblue33
Actually there's never BEEN a necessary war in US history.
There was also never a CIVIL war in US history, it was a war of OLIGARCHY over the sovereign states.
After that, the US became an empire, and its many wars were to expand globally under the pretense of "spreading democracy...." just like every empire claims benevolence.
WW1 started because the Reconstruction barons BANKRUPTED the US economy, and the new military-industrial complex wanted to sell WEAPONS overseas.
SovereignStatesman 1 month ago
@SovereignStatesman If you think that there has been a necessary war in the history of the US, then you don't believe that the US needed to exist. We needed to fight a war to earn the right to exist as our own nation. Funny you talk about the constitution, but without fighting a war against our oppressors in england, there would be NO Constitution. Any "statesman" would understand a simple concept as self defense. Its childish to think that countries will exist without war.
lionel200000000 1 month ago
@lionel200000000
"We needed to fight a war to earn the right to exist as our own nation."
You just sunk your own battleship; the US NEVER existed as a nation, since the 1783 Treaty of Paris recognizes each of the states to be free, sovereign and independent unto ITSELF-- not collectively.
And that was a war of REBELLION, not national defense-- you can't defend nations that doesn't even exist yet.
After that, the US started every major war it got into, starting in 1812.
SovereignStatesman 1 month ago
@SovereignStatesman Never existed? wtf are you talking about? Carolina and the south tried to secede because of what you said here and what happened? Civil War and now its illegal to secede. the US is a nation WITH free, sovereign and independant states that can make their own laws etc. Doesnt mean we arent a nation. and we have started every major war? not true...did we start WWII? no we were one of the last countries to join. Did we start the war in afghanistan? no 9/11...
Zigz15 1 month ago
@Zigz15 "and what happened? Civil War and now its illegal to secede."
Yeah dummy.... never-- just nevermind. You're obviously too STUPID to know how you just put your foot in your mouth with your head up your ass there.
"did we start WWII? no we were one of the last countries to join."
Yeah, OFFICIALLY. Again with the head-up-the-ass thing.
"Did we start the war in afghanistan? no 9/11..."
Oh yeah, the US wasn't doing ANYTHING militarily in the middle east, same as in china ROTFLMAO
SovereignStatesman 1 month ago
@SovereignStatesman really? your telling me im wrong? you must not have taken ANY history lessons and not follow the news man. WTF do you mean we "OFFICIALLY" didnt start WWII? We werent even a world power until after words. People like you who think america is stupid and has started every war are just anarchist freaks that dont know whats going on. You didnt even give any evidence that i was wrong. you just said i have my head up my ass. oh your so smart Mr. awesomeness.STFU
Zigz15 1 month ago
@Zigz15 "you must not have taken ANY history lessons and not follow the news man."
Yeah. writing something doesn't make it TRUE, dummy!
"We werent even a world power until after words"
"After words" ROTLFMAO
Read about how it REALLY HAPPENED. FDR made secret attacks and unilateral treaties against Germany AND Japan, which BEGGED for peace before Pearl Harbor but FDR wouldn't listen; he also made secret alliances with Britain to back them if they declared war on Germany.
SovereignStatesman 1 month ago
@SovereignStatesman omg i made typo i must have no clue what im talking about.
all your doing is quoting me and saying ROTLFMAO which btw way is not spelled right so you just lost at your own game.
Sure what your saying is kind of true...Japan did not beg for mercy. not even close. the only reason we got involved with them is because of Pearl Harbor. before that barely anything ever went on between us. your so frustrating to fight against because the 500 character limit...
Zigz15 1 month ago
@Zigz15
A basic grammatical error is not a "typo," it's a display of ignorance.
>"Japan did not beg for mercy. not even close"
FACT: In August 1941, Prime Minister Prince Konoye offered to meet President Roosevelt in Washington to negotiate in an effort to prevent war. Roosevelt rejected Konoye's offer.
thornwalker. com / ditch /pearl. htm (remove spaces, duh)
SovereignStatesman 1 month ago
@SovereignStatesman god your not worth arguing but here goes...
1. it is a typo...ive been up for about 2 days now and im tired get over it you did it to
2. that information is from an obscure website that i bet 99% of people have never heard of and is from a .com and therefore not reliable
3. under the impression that it is true, however, it does not state specifics of the peace offering...the japanese probably asked for something in return.
4. dont say duh you condescending
Zigz15 1 month ago
SovereignStatesman 1 month ago
@SovereignStatesman its a typo...the fact that i have a masters in education and literature says it is. so fuck you. so what if the specifics of the peace offering was give Hawaii to us and we wont attack you? would you have taken that offer? NO dont be so fucking immature about it dude. debate me like a man not like a 2 year old with a major disability. youve only given me one reason why im wrong and it was illegitimate then you just keep harping on the fact i had a typo
Zigz15 1 month ago
Sorry I can't respond, since you said that you "wont be reading or responding to it since it will waste my precious time" therefore you didn't write anything ROTFLMAO
Ask Santa for a brain moron LOL
SovereignStatesman 1 month ago
@SovereignStatesman ROTFLMAO IM ACTING LIKE YOUR AN IDIOT BECAUSE I CANT MAKE A VALID ARGUMENT LOL....sense my sarcasm?
Zigz15 1 month ago
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@Zigz15 " it is a typo.."
-Saying "after words" instead of "afterwards" is NOT a typo, it is a display of illiteracy. "..ive been up for about 2 days now"
-The REASON for your stupidity, doesn't change the FACT of it LOL
"is from a .com and therefore not reliable"
-No it's 100% fact. Again: the REASON for your stupidity, doesn't change the FACT of it.
- "It does not state specifics of the peace offering."
-It precludes neutral claims.
"dont say duh"
That's YOUR line.
SovereignStatesman 1 month ago
@SovereignStatesman asshole. you dont know everything. in fact you seem like someone who reads one obscure website and believes what he says
5. feel free to reply. however i wont be reading or responding to it since it will waste my precious time. But since you are probably sitting in your mamas basement you can satisfy yourself anyway you wish. Good day kind sir.
Zigz15 1 month ago
@Zigz15
This is hilarious LOL
"you seem like someone who reads one obscure website and believes what he says"
Or who checks the FACTS, unlike you who believes everything you HEAR, drinks the kool-aid and then screams like a castrated lapdog against everyone who counters it.... yep, you got your story and you're stickin' to it!
"i wont be reading or responding to it since"
Yeah yeah, since you're an illiterate dumbass. Your "grammar" alone proves that.
But that's a given.
SovereignStatesman 1 month ago
@StupidCommentsMademe
"Revolution brought unity to the country"
No, it CREATED the country. COMMON INTERESTS brought unity.
"1812 brought unity to the country"
Look up "Hartford Convention."
"WW1 industrialized the country"-
No, industry CAUSED it-- and COMMUNISM.
"WW2 reinforced WW1 standing" -
Yes, because WW1 CAUSED WW2.
War's ALWAYS a shit-sandwich, i.e. the powerful get the bread, everyone else eats shit
SovereignStatesman 1 month ago
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It makes me feel good to see progressives and libertarians coming together in this forum to reject this guy's selective argument. I disagree with a lot of libertarianism, but at least I understand they have a sense of rational and humanity.
DennisfromDC 2 months ago
FUCK YOU
nahudhamod 3 months ago
@nahudhamod FUCK YOU
SAOrules 3 months ago
Am I the only one who wants to help waterboard Crowder to prove that it's "not torture"?
insdel2004 3 months ago
@insdel2004 I'm with you.... sort of. I mean, torture is torture. But if he thinks it's going to be a walk in the park, maybe he should be educated?
VitalemRecords 3 months ago
@insdel2004 you know we water board our own navy seals and special forces for training right, im sure those "poor" terrorist will get over it
FutureMarineDevilDog 3 months ago
@FutureMarineDevilDog If what we did to our seals was even remotely comparable to what we did to alleged terrorists you might have a point. Do a little research before shooting your mouth off and looking like a dumb ass.
insdel2004 3 months ago
@insdel2004 ok so where do u find this information, oh wait i think i know, its some crazed left media bullshit isnt it. have you even thought of what the other side does to our soldiers. just because you dont agree with me does not make me a dumb ass
FutureMarineDevilDog 2 months ago
@FutureMarineDevilDog I'm not going to do your research for you. Look it up yourself. Also it doesn't matter "what the other side does to our soldiers" two wrongs don't make a right.
insdel2004 2 months ago
FREEDOM!!!!!
:)
Macrious 4 months ago
Ah Steven before all the fame. And when u made vids that had funny character
Urlog922 4 months ago
fuck islam muhammad was a child molester
NicolasDavid24 4 months ago
@NicolasDavid24 You're a child molester.
VitalemRecords 3 months ago
This is a playground for people who want to argue like assholes. They are going to use ad hominem attacks, or say "I bet you LIKE dead Americans" and stupid bullshit like that. They don't want to actually make a point, they just want to make you mad. There are some people that respect human life. Just because we don't want people tortured in OUR defense, doesn't mean we like abortion. It doesn't mean we hate America. It doesn't mean we support Obama. How about we talk like ADULTS!?!?
VitalemRecords 4 months ago
@VitalemRecords I think the torture issue is a tough one, considering almost every prominent nation around the globe uses one form of "interigation" or another to extract information. Not to indicate that you are a Obama supporter, but the President himself has continued to use the secret prisons and torture methods he condemed during his campaign, which in many cases has led to some very prominent terrorist figures being brought to justice or executed. It's not a pretty world out there.
saintjst7 3 months ago
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad "Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth"
so peaceful
1234REEB1234 4 months ago
WOAH, this is one of the most uninformed, slanted BS videos I have ever seen. WOAH.
VitalemRecords 4 months ago
@VitalemRecords,
Got any proof to go with that very vague, very emotional statement? He makes a coherent argument and cites documents. Can you do better?
commonsenseforUSA 4 months ago
@commonsenseforUSA The proof is the video that I commented on. The guy cherry picks information in order to make blanket statements. He depicts sleep deprivation as someone politely waking someone up. His logic isn't true. He would be perfect for Faux News. The guy is being so misleading and ignorant, I can only surmise that he's mocking people that have this opinion.
Who in their right mind would defend actions when they don't even know what really happened, and what they DO read - distort
VitalemRecords 4 months ago
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@VitalemRecords oh shut the hell up you liberal fuck tard
MPAnnarella 3 months ago
I say we take all the self-hating americans and ship them to france.
onemarktwoyou 4 months ago
The Braveheart comparison left me crying with laughter. Crowder really has a way with pointing out the absurdity of the left.
SkepticAll 4 months ago 2
Who do you work for!! Which section of the Saudi Royal family pays for your work!! both of the Bush's worked for them, I guess you do to.
bear112153 5 months ago
ya torcher it's funny???
what a lode of shit this dude is a total retard !!!!!
ben62860 5 months ago
@ben62860 I wouldn't even call what we do them torture. It's more like... Slight discomfort. But of course I bet the idea of a muslim beheading an american photographer and filming it was a-ok in your book huh?
hooplablahblahblah 5 months ago
hey u wana know the ultimate torture my friend, TAKE THERE WEED AWAY! I WOULD RANTHER BE WATERBOARDED A THOUSAND TIMES THEN LOSE ME WEEDZ!
stonerpunx 5 months ago
@Nightsblood192 wooooooow these are dangerous people, dangerous my ass. these are ordinary combatants who were picked up from Afghanistan for comfort only, to provide a psychological comfort for the American people, some of them were picked up from here... say what? well they sympathizers, next time when something outrageous happens the GOV will put you behind bars because your head is big:)
farid1965 5 months ago
if you are slaped on one cheek turn the other one too...oh yeh exactly he meant your butt cheeks
farid1965 5 months ago
911 was an inside job. The guys in guantanimo are innocent... that's why everyone that has been tried in a court of law has been released. It's been proven that torture does not extract confessions. The info gathered at the Nuremberg trials were gathered by not using torture... dumb-da-dumb-dumb-dumb.
pandoraishere333 5 months ago
Waterboarding is pretty hairy. You have to be a seal to handle it. Granted its no cigarette to the eye, but you, Steven Crowder, would not be able to handle it.
theopposer666 5 months ago
@theopposer666 You have no idea what this guy is capable of. He's more man than you'll ever be.
Supermassively 5 months ago
Keep up the good work steven!!
Fishingman1231 5 months ago
watch?v=wOStoGd5GZw
water boarding is not torture :P
vitagen84 5 months ago
just gonna say this. the regan DOJ is the only DOJ to call waterboarding torture, so yes legally speaking we do torture people and our soldiers. but our soldiers need the training aska navy seal. look for mancow gettinging WB he doesnt even make it 10 seconds.
MrSupra7 6 months ago
What we do is torture? I would hate to know what people think of what Samolians did to our dead soldiers in the early 1990's. Or what they think of that 27 second video of the terrorists hacking off the head of a U.S. official with a knife. He wasn't even a military official! When that 27 second video was released to the public people got over the U.S. ass for taking pictures of our soldiers smiling as they take care of the dead enemy combatates.
drnogood59 6 months ago
Man, this guy is so untalented.. Bad Actor and he seems to have absolutely no intellectual Background.
mullsen 6 months ago
@mullsen lol I sense a butt-hurt liberal :DD
luckyStrike89ru 6 months ago
@luckyStrike89ru What is it with you conservatives ? Quality doesn't matter if it comes from a conservative ?
I saw fifth graders who were better actors. Or look around at YT, there are masses of Comedians who are much better (who don't get paid for it and/or won't be featured on Fox..)
Another thing is that if you're trying to do political comedy, you should know a little bit about politics, history, society, etc. Crowder clearly doesn't.
mullsen 6 months ago
@mullsen He doesn't? What doesn't he know?
Supermassively 5 months ago
@mullsen He has more intellectual background in one pubic hair than you have in that entire louse-infested crotch afro. Who gives a shit about his acting talents? It's an internet comedy video - not Schindler's List; and he's a comedian - not an actor.
Liberal trolls never seem to have anything intelligent or relevant to say. Typical.
Supermassively 5 months ago
dude. what u "know" is what ur president tells u.
praveenchukka 6 months ago
well u sure practice ur freedom of speech. i watch all ur videos and all i can see is that u are lack of knowledge on the stuff u been talking and u so self centered on ur own ideology. my advise is try to go out and do some REAL research. maybe u'll see whats really happening in this world, rather than stay in ur comfort zone n show how stupid u are. join peace core u might learn something.
vitagen84 6 months ago
Way to speak the truth steven! I support you.
Fishingman1231 6 months ago
haha, your an idiot, all kinds of torture was happening at gitmo and anyone who agrees with innefective methods such as torture should have to experience it.
SUlax1017 6 months ago
you know whats funny about this video is not its content, its how it didnt mention rendition programs and the fact that people in abughraib where mostly not even political disidants to begin with..
its not torture thats the issue. the real issue is the remarkable willingness to waste perfectly innocent and untrialed peoples lifes, on this "annoying" BULLSHIT.
if i force you even in a 5 star hotel, away from your life and your plans and loved ones for just 1 year. youd be super pissed. asswipe.
islamconstitution 6 months ago
@islamconstitution
or do you just want the pretext for untrailed rounding up of people with a newly offcial pretext for torture
being part of our national policy?
see your a ridiculous idiot who dont even think of things in terms of the politics it effects..
your just a hypocreitcal hating, faking innocence, think yourself funny, ass licking cunt licking son of a bitch.
islamconstitution 6 months ago
do u no wat if u cant say good things then shut up people in guntanamobay the americans kill them and i now people who are in jail
ghaziyah139 6 months ago
Sleep deprivation is really terrible. Why don't you read a book?
Hannahdabeast 6 months ago
There's no such thing as Muslim terrorists because if you are a terrorist YOU CAN NOT BE MUSLIM...and if you are a Muslim YOU CAN NOT BE A TERRORIST...
Quran 005:032
...That if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people
ali313x 6 months ago
But how do you know what is REALLY going on at Guantanamo? Prove that it isn't torture and that ALL the detainees are actually terrorists. It seems so simple why hasn't Obama done it yet? I thought he was a liberal?
Quintapus 6 months ago
nothing but wind
Marsh1418 6 months ago
fuck this video, and fuck this faggot host, fuck his faggot friend for letting him pat and put his mouth on his stomach, fuck this whole comment and fuck every other commentor on this video, fuck youtube for recommending this to me
SargentandGreenLeaf 7 months ago
Nothing is based on Facts in this Video .
A. If you play the same song over and over 24 hrs a day , no matter how silly the song , you can cause psychological damage makes a cute , silly joke but it's not the song it's the repetitive nature , idiot
B. Seals know they won't die being water boarded so comparing that to a guy having it done 40 , 50 times and w/ Beatings who knows he could die is absurd.
C. Majority of people at Guantanamo were picked up for bounty and are innocent .
franz909 7 months ago
ASK A SEAL? Ok search "Jesse Ventura: You Give Me a Water Board, Dick Cheney and One Hour" This little sissy has no idea what he is talking about.
sividom 7 months ago
Steven I love your videos but unfortunately the way to ending violence is not treating your enemy as they treat you. That simply escalates problems. I know people ask: "Why should we treat them nicely if they don't treat us the same?" and the answer is that we are the better country. We want all of this violence to end, so we must demonstrate peace and do as we say.
N1CKF3D 7 months ago
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Love it.
"Diet?"
"Yeah"
*slurps*
"Because this doesn't taste like diet."
"It's diet!"
"Okay..." *slurps* "Oh, death to Amerika."
Shing!!!....."yeah that makes sense"
*Laughter*
"That's it?....Yeah....It's funny thing! Naked dude! OOooooo...hehe...." *SHING* "Damnit...."
tacticalrenegade 7 months ago
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tacticalrenegade 7 months ago
@SuperSkateboarder10 No, get out with that bullshit. Crowder's awesome. And yes, I can read Arabic, though I'm not the best with the formal seeing as I'm more used to my dialect. You forgot to connect the last two words, by the way. And you made the third and fourth words one long word. You might want to work on that.
rhinnawi95 7 months ago
Can't fix stupid!
farid1965 7 months ago
You're only showing a select few. Not fair and balanced at all. Have you ever thought of a job at Fox News? You would do well there.
ginad17 7 months ago
@ginad17 Well he is not using derogatory insults, and he has an audience. So I guess Crowder can rule out any work at MSNBC in the near future.
acdc30450 7 months ago
LOL He actually made me laugh for the first time about Islamic evil, violent, hatefilled, stupid garabge. Thanks... Death to America, what a bunch of idiots Islamic people are, as if America was even around to cause any of their problems, in the scheme of things, America just showed up a short while a go you imbred, Islamic pigs...
GTCism 7 months ago
Here's torture: Chinese Water Torture- Drives them insane without actually hurting them in anyway! Perfect, right?
crazyspacechick 7 months ago
Dude, you are my all time entertainment hero. Sorry, I can't call you my all time hero, my dad is still around!!! :-)
MrRljohnson77 7 months ago
Too funny! That musta been fun putting that last bit together.
Goohuman 7 months ago
How could you really think that can't mess around to get information out of Islamic terrorists, they don't mind killing us by cuts (slowly). These men have no compassion for any of the people they kill. Do you think that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has any compassion or grief for what he planned on 9/11/2001. Please respond, I would like to know your thoughts.
AgentJimenez25 7 months ago 4
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@ 1:39 isnt that like saying if i murder somebody but then feel bad about i have a higher moral standard the serial killerts
91jgphonecall 7 months ago
why did you give the gitmo dude a unibrow?
sabinal17 7 months ago
@sabinal17 Many middle easterns have unibrows. It's not an uncommon trait there.
rhinnawi95 7 months ago
@rhinnawi95 oh...thanks.
sabinal17 7 months ago
@sabinal17 Yeah, I lived in the West Bank (Israel). It's a pretty funny site.
rhinnawi95 7 months ago
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you should beware what they say. The ones who is in guantanamo haven't been through the law system and people honestly don't know if someone is tortered but haven't comitted any crime...
And also your jokes were not funny...
computerfis 7 months ago
@computerfis Says the communist, America hating, terrorist loving, drug addicted parasite!
TheLordObamessiah 7 months ago 5
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@TheLordObamessiah thank you for your constructive respond! NOT!
computerfis 7 months ago
@TheLordObamessiah I Don't hate america, i have never used drugs. I AM NOT A PARASITE. I do not support violence at all, and i do in some ways like some of the communist ideolegy. Most of the americans i meet is actually really nice. And then there is the other's wich really ruins it all for the other people.
and you know what some people don't like U.S.A because of your statement's. You have no proof that iam a "terrorist" or a "american hating person". And it is completely ignorance too.
computerfis 7 months ago
LOL! auritone just goes on and on about how America is at fault for all the bad things in the world, even centuries before the United States existed, and how the Muslims are all peace loving people who do good and have been harassed by the evil U.S., and how America and Israel are the only true terrorists.
These liberals have such a burning hatred for America and a great love for criminals, communists, terrorists and other perverted, dishonest, immoral vermin!
SICK LEFTIST VERMIN!
TheScarIetPimperneI 7 months ago 14
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@TheScarIetPimperneI I haven't written anything of the kind and you know it!
Lying gets you nothing but scorn!
It tells a lot more about you than me than you feel justified to spread lies!
Sad!
auritone 7 months ago
@TheScarIetPimperneI
Way to generalize. We arent Communists, dishonest (well there are dishonest people on both sides, but its more apparent on the right-wing) and we arent "immoral" whatever you mean by that. This is really all I hear from the right wingers when they describe the left wing. Just slander to get people to agree with you. By scaring them into your way of thinking
The92Waffles 3 months ago
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Fuck america...bunch of the biggest hypocrities on the planet....drone attacks in pakistan, illegal invasion of iraq, aghanistan, libya....WTF maan...do we need nazis...when we have americans
majesticmaniac 7 months ago
@majesticmaniac Lol, you're obviously brainwashed. It's wasn't illegal to invade Iraq, NATO was with us and the UN voted to invade Iraq. BTW, We have no soldiers on the ground in Libya and France is in charge of military operations but I agree we shouldn't be there but we have to support our allies like they did us in Iraq and Afghanistan. To have peace you gotta fight for it. Get your head out of your ass.
orangeblood307 7 months ago
@orangeblood307 Actually, I think we have ground troops in Libya. You never know the truth with this government. But otherwise, you're right, to an extent. I'm no fan of the wars, and I don't think the war was constitutional (I'm a Ron Paul fan, so you know where i"m coming from). Otherwise, I have to give you some credit for keeping a civil response, unlike mine. Haha
rhinnawi95 7 months ago
@rhinnawi95 Yeah, I love Ron Paul but I was in favor of invading Iraq a decade ago but my views on that have changed since. I wouldn't doubt that we have troops on the ground in Libya, if so, Obama should be impeached for lying every chance he gets.
orangeblood307 7 months ago
@majesticmaniac You know what? Fuck you. How about you show this great nation some respect you piece of trash.
rhinnawi95 7 months ago
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Interesting how you avoid the fact that waterboarding is SIMULATED DROWNING and is by that very definition TORTURE!
And you also miss the fact that America actually succesfully prosecuted people for waterboarding during WW2 - it was ILLEGAL!
And the reason SEALS are no longer subjected to this during training is because it broke their will and lowered moral!
Why don't you speak about that?
auritone 7 months ago
@auritone hey why dont you speak about the fact these scum fly planes into buildings
they deserve torture and PAIN
failurbanik 7 months ago 5
@failurbanik These people see America as responsible for all the bad in the world for all of human history & they see terrorists as "freedom fighters". The fact that the terrorists would kill them for their ultra-liberal views, that terrorists deliberately target innocent men, women & children, etc., doesn't matter to them. But in going after the terrorists, using extremely expensive weapons, designed to be very accurate to avoid harming innocents, they'll scream murder!
HYPOCRITICAL LIBERALS!
TheLordObamessiah 7 months ago 6
@TheLordObamessiah AGREED
failurbanik 7 months ago 4
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@failurbanik They deserve to be brought to justice!
The reason we shouldn't torture is because we are supposed to be sane and abide by the law!
They are psychotics!
But even psychotics we treat according to the law - no matter how crazy and dangerous they may be!
Also, when you torture people suspected of being terrorists you run a very high risk of torturing innocent people!
Are you okay with that?
auritone 7 months ago
@auritone because most of the people with DEATH TO AMERICA on their camels werent terroists but just crack heads
we only "torture" the ones who we know are terrorists
and if you ask me all of them are in there for a reason
failurbanik 7 months ago 9
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@failurbanik Funny how many they have released during the years then....
I personally don't care if we "only torture terrorists"!
A democratic society does not do that - especially a country in which waterboarding is ILLEGAL!
And "torture"?
You do know that waterboarding is torture right?
That's why the US has succesfully prosecuted people of doing it.
But don't take my word for it - take the word of bleeding heart, liberal John McCain (at least up to the point of his sell-out!) :)
auritone 7 months ago
@auritone oh so whats your oppion on beheading because they do it to our guys alot
if i had to kill a scum bag or two to save lives hell yes i would you you would say its wrong while they fly planes into an office
failurbanik 7 months ago 5
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@failurbanik Now you're just repeating yourself!
As I wrote:
They are psychotic!
We are not!
We adhere to the law!
They do not because they are criminal psychotics!
Your last point has nothing to do with the subject.
The people at Gitmo pose NO threat anymore because they are in custody!
Sure, if you see a person with tnt strapped to his waist, screaming while he runs towards a crowd - blow his head off - he poses an IMMEDIATE threat!
People locked up does not!
auritone 7 months ago