That's strange... still, your wish is my command. If you google 'voxengo boogex' it should come up - I can't write web addresses in comments any more so I'll pm you....
This tutorial is awesome. Definitely. Thank you very much for that. It´s helpful for all people trying to understand how to mix their own records. Thank you again.
@Tombking2 That's one reason I stayed away from saying 'use this eq setting and this impulse" - even if you copied mine exactly it wouldn't sound the same because you would use a different guitar, different pickups, different compressor etc. it all has an effect. The only thing I can say is that finding a great guitar tone is never easy, just keep trying different things until you find something that works for you. Also, remember one dry muddy guitar might sound great if layered with another.
Good stuff, good review, very helpful, though i wish you could have gotten to hear the music, sound tests, how it sounds when you play around with settings, it would help even more
loads of great info, good tips and suggest loads more....food for thought. your opinion on acoustic guitars would be really appreciated.... found these erratic...cheers.
@Bsonsyrup Thanks dude, but you know what, I've not tried recording acoustic guitars for years because I also had a load of trouble and just moved over to using clean electric instead. I know a proper acoustic sounds a lot better, so if you really want to use one, treat it like vocals from start to finish with EQ/comp + mic set up. Good playing technique is also much more important than with electric, it often gets overlooked. Don't layer acoustic either unless it's 1 steel and 1 nylon.
you know if you really wanted to make your guitar rig sound..you know real, all you have to do is output a USB soundcard or the soundcard into a real guitar amp, then record everything from a decent microphone.. do not ever use it directly it will sound like poo what ever preset or how good it sounds, it just never sounds good..been using guitar rig for about 3-4 years now, i learned this the hard way
@kragle2008 I fully understand that real kit will sound better, I used to use it myself. However I had to sell it and VST is all I have now. Lots of people can't afford or haven't got space for decent real kit, so I made this video to help people who only have VSTs to rely on their sound. But you're right, it will never be quite as good as the real thing, although impulses have done a lot to bring them near the standard.
@Jamesmsv Yeah they are great, to be honest technology has improved so much over the years, VST wise.. synths like atmosphere or omnisphere power syths, they are incredible :) guitar rig 4 is still my favorite sound without even using an amp or microphone, but im always on the lookout for better more natural sounds! Very nice tutorial btw, the stereo balance is certainly useful information in any aspects of music. Even breakcore lol
@kragle2008 Line 6 has made really good progress with virtual amp modelling. Recording live instrument with proper cabinets and amp heads is definitely better though, considering you know what you're doing as a lot of people can mess it up very easily. Pod Farm is a really good amp modelling software... pretty realistic.
@drumgroovy i shall have a look for them programs :) thank you, more realistic the better really if your gonna record from a microphone or pop mic, i love the sound you can get out of it too.. i dont know how but it some how takes the digital sound away and its alot more analog and can experiment with the axis where the mic is :) i hope people do this method more often, its like the ultimate guitar pedal effects module hehe
How about making a detailed video on how you go about blending 3 different distorted sounds to get 1 great one? I've tried that in the past (long long time ago) with no success. The one amp panned hard left and hard right played seperately always sounded best to me. Maybe you could show some examples and comparisons of one guitar vs. 3 blended and some detailed techniques of how you go about doing it?
@darkstonecastle That's not a bad idea. I have 2 more episodes to do in the Beginner's Guide series (Vocals, final mix), then I was looking for another subject to cover. Everyone seems to want more on guitars so this would be a good place to start.
@darkstonecastle If the 3 sounds are simply 3 different mixes fed from one track it's gonna be a bit hard because you'll be dealing with phase cancellations as you move them around the audio spectrum. The source track is too in sync it'll phase out too much. But having three different takes to 3 different mixes can get a bit messy too. I would try 2 tracks instead. 1 to mix A, 2 to mix B. By mix I don't mean different EQ mixes but different stomps, guitars, etc. Just a suggestion
@AaronVernonFOP Yes it does - I'm not at my DAW so working from memory, but if you open EZ and click on the 'Mixer' button at the bottom, it brings up a virtual mixing desk with a channel for each instrument. There is a pan slider for each channel, although the toms export to Cubase as a single stereo track they have their own channel in the EZ mixer for individual panning. Wtih cymbals though I'm afraid you're stuck with the single 'Overhead' stereo track so can't adjust that.
@AaronVernonFOP Just thought - there is an option in EZ to appear in your DAW as either a single stereo track or 8 individual tracks for each main instrument so make sure you have that option selected or you won't be able to pan anything yourself.
@Jamesmsv oh alright. yea i noticed they can be panned in the ez drummer mixer, but like you said its good to pan crashes and tomes all around the whole system right? how would i pan a single drum all the around?
@AaronVernonFOP If I understand you correctly, then I think EZ drummer will do what you want, I'll send you a private message as video comments have a word restriction limit!
GREAT video!!! Does anyone know where to get a copy of the Voxengo Boogex vst. The link above seems to be dead, and Google didn't help. =(
fuseunison 1 month ago
That's strange... still, your wish is my command. If you google 'voxengo boogex' it should come up - I can't write web addresses in comments any more so I'll pm you....
Jamesmsv 1 month ago
This tutorial is awesome. Definitely. Thank you very much for that. It´s helpful for all people trying to understand how to mix their own records. Thank you again.
TJVOLTAGE 1 month ago in playlist A Beginner's Guide to Mixing Metal at Home
I was soooooo disappointed off the guitar sound, after all the playing around, when i heard it, it sounded so dry and muddy in my ears
Tombking2 2 months ago
@Tombking2 That's one reason I stayed away from saying 'use this eq setting and this impulse" - even if you copied mine exactly it wouldn't sound the same because you would use a different guitar, different pickups, different compressor etc. it all has an effect. The only thing I can say is that finding a great guitar tone is never easy, just keep trying different things until you find something that works for you. Also, remember one dry muddy guitar might sound great if layered with another.
Jamesmsv 2 months ago
Good stuff, good review, very helpful, though i wish you could have gotten to hear the music, sound tests, how it sounds when you play around with settings, it would help even more
Tombking2 2 months ago
loads of great info, good tips and suggest loads more....food for thought. your opinion on acoustic guitars would be really appreciated.... found these erratic...cheers.
Bsonsyrup 3 months ago
@Bsonsyrup Thanks dude, but you know what, I've not tried recording acoustic guitars for years because I also had a load of trouble and just moved over to using clean electric instead. I know a proper acoustic sounds a lot better, so if you really want to use one, treat it like vocals from start to finish with EQ/comp + mic set up. Good playing technique is also much more important than with electric, it often gets overlooked. Don't layer acoustic either unless it's 1 steel and 1 nylon.
Jamesmsv 3 months ago
Massive, massive help. I had used the impulses before but never combined my actual amp with them. Sounds brutal :D
flobbie12345 3 months ago
please add russian subtitles ;))))
lewkee1c 3 months ago
not the best voice to listen to for 15mins but ty
s3177000 3 months ago
you know if you really wanted to make your guitar rig sound..you know real, all you have to do is output a USB soundcard or the soundcard into a real guitar amp, then record everything from a decent microphone.. do not ever use it directly it will sound like poo what ever preset or how good it sounds, it just never sounds good..been using guitar rig for about 3-4 years now, i learned this the hard way
kragle2008 3 months ago
@kragle2008 I fully understand that real kit will sound better, I used to use it myself. However I had to sell it and VST is all I have now. Lots of people can't afford or haven't got space for decent real kit, so I made this video to help people who only have VSTs to rely on their sound. But you're right, it will never be quite as good as the real thing, although impulses have done a lot to bring them near the standard.
Jamesmsv 3 months ago
@Jamesmsv Yeah they are great, to be honest technology has improved so much over the years, VST wise.. synths like atmosphere or omnisphere power syths, they are incredible :) guitar rig 4 is still my favorite sound without even using an amp or microphone, but im always on the lookout for better more natural sounds! Very nice tutorial btw, the stereo balance is certainly useful information in any aspects of music. Even breakcore lol
kragle2008 3 months ago
@kragle2008 Line 6 has made really good progress with virtual amp modelling. Recording live instrument with proper cabinets and amp heads is definitely better though, considering you know what you're doing as a lot of people can mess it up very easily. Pod Farm is a really good amp modelling software... pretty realistic.
drumgroovy 3 months ago
@drumgroovy i shall have a look for them programs :) thank you, more realistic the better really if your gonna record from a microphone or pop mic, i love the sound you can get out of it too.. i dont know how but it some how takes the digital sound away and its alot more analog and can experiment with the axis where the mic is :) i hope people do this method more often, its like the ultimate guitar pedal effects module hehe
kragle2008 3 months ago
How about making a detailed video on how you go about blending 3 different distorted sounds to get 1 great one? I've tried that in the past (long long time ago) with no success. The one amp panned hard left and hard right played seperately always sounded best to me. Maybe you could show some examples and comparisons of one guitar vs. 3 blended and some detailed techniques of how you go about doing it?
darkstonecastle 4 months ago
@darkstonecastle That's not a bad idea. I have 2 more episodes to do in the Beginner's Guide series (Vocals, final mix), then I was looking for another subject to cover. Everyone seems to want more on guitars so this would be a good place to start.
Jamesmsv 4 months ago 4
@darkstonecastle If the 3 sounds are simply 3 different mixes fed from one track it's gonna be a bit hard because you'll be dealing with phase cancellations as you move them around the audio spectrum. The source track is too in sync it'll phase out too much. But having three different takes to 3 different mixes can get a bit messy too. I would try 2 tracks instead. 1 to mix A, 2 to mix B. By mix I don't mean different EQ mixes but different stomps, guitars, etc. Just a suggestion
makisunn 3 months ago
Excellent tutorial!
I've mostly only dealt with dance music and this has been extremely helpful in swapping over to metal
Thank you!
Ockeroid 4 months ago
@Ockeroid No problem dude, metal mixing is a very different beast to other types - good luck!
Jamesmsv 4 months ago
thank you soo much!! your videos are really helpful!!
lealeexx 5 months ago
Does ez drummer automatically pan the drums at all? if not how can i do so?
AaronVernonFOP 5 months ago
@AaronVernonFOP Yes it does - I'm not at my DAW so working from memory, but if you open EZ and click on the 'Mixer' button at the bottom, it brings up a virtual mixing desk with a channel for each instrument. There is a pan slider for each channel, although the toms export to Cubase as a single stereo track they have their own channel in the EZ mixer for individual panning. Wtih cymbals though I'm afraid you're stuck with the single 'Overhead' stereo track so can't adjust that.
Jamesmsv 5 months ago
@AaronVernonFOP Just thought - there is an option in EZ to appear in your DAW as either a single stereo track or 8 individual tracks for each main instrument so make sure you have that option selected or you won't be able to pan anything yourself.
Jamesmsv 5 months ago
@Jamesmsv oh alright. yea i noticed they can be panned in the ez drummer mixer, but like you said its good to pan crashes and tomes all around the whole system right? how would i pan a single drum all the around?
AaronVernonFOP 5 months ago
@AaronVernonFOP If I understand you correctly, then I think EZ drummer will do what you want, I'll send you a private message as video comments have a word restriction limit!
Jamesmsv 5 months ago
Pretty good, hope you'll have some tips for EQing, that's a typical pain in the ass with guitar tones :)
MarkArandjus 5 months ago
yay !
killik0r 5 months ago