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  • divide the countryy yes!

  • Communities are fighting the tax fraud by Atlanta city government officials by seceding from Atlanta and forming their own townships. Like Sandy Springs. That prevents the officials from using taxes to build city parks and name them after themselves! Perhaps secession should take a different approach: formally dissolving the state, e.g., Georgia, as a legal entity, and forming two or more states from what had been one.

  • I'm a proud Texan and a proud American. They're right. Telling a state or group that they cannot secede is equivalent to slavery. If no state is aloud to secede, then the federal government can basically reach communism and no one can do anything but have to follow the oppressive laws. It would not be good for this country to break up, but if the government keeps getting more powerful, I think it would be best if Texas and other states seceded.

  • Our Union was brought together like a marriage, formally and with mutual consent. Certain states wanted a divorce, but without mutual consent and no formal agreement. The other states felt their marriage could not be dissolved unilaterally and at any time that suited those wanting the divorce. So they fought to save the marriage..

  • @SSArcher11 Yea, pointing a gun at your spouse is a great way to save a marriage.

  • @colosusjokers old post but is military subjugation (what was done to half the country) a "marriage?" Not saying to attempt further to leave, but the marriage analogy just doesn't work. Half country tried to get away, it has unified and different idea about life, governance, and so on; it's much more northern euro toned than the north, and even with a willfull influx of northern immigrants ("new south" or "sunbelt" the yankee south, their arrival just creates the inner city they left

  • @westchesterny @westchesterny I was being sarcastic to SSArcher when I posted that. I guess I didn't do a very good job of it.

  • I, support Secession ..

    So that makes me a Patriot ..

    Don't like it ..

    Stick it ..

  • You Wanna Know About Slavery- Watch What The Fed Will Do If States try to Succeed...will see WHO BELIEVES IN SLAVERY.

    It would not be the successors. They would be chased. Like old days, Feds with Dogs. Shotguns and all.

  • THERE IS NO UNION TODAY! What American Union?

    Really Where is the Representation.

    overseas- Maybe Walmart can tell me where The Unity is?

    Its not in the south or the north.

    TREASON AGAINST WHAT ZEEBOE??? A GLOBAL WORLD?

    FUCK YOU!!!

    SUCCEEDING FROM GLOBALISM-- IS UNITY TO AMERICA.

    If That is not an option Then Succeed From America's PHONY LEADERS PERIOD. THAT IS LAND OF THE FREE.

  • Secession is illegal and to support it is treason.

  • We are not represented today by the Senate or Congress they take there own sides as to what they feel is right for there own interest not in the interest of what the people want.

    Big Goverment - New Federal Gas Tax Comming $ 0.15 added hope you love it for those who want Big Goverment.

    Secession now !.

    No More Medicaid !.

  • @donjuandonjuan No more YEC Hovindism, No more DOMA, no more fundies...we can tax the Christian Right into oblivion! HUZZAH!

  • @biancademonet go right on ahead and tax the churches don't bother me one bit.

  • uhhh this is stupid. America broke away from Britian because we were not represented nor were we governing ourselves properly. Now we are all fairly represented and we rule our own country.

    States rights is plenty respected currently, as long as thoes states follow the constitution , so States Rights is just a made up problem by stupid people.

    America is not a Christian Nation, Jefferson was not a Christian and neither was Franklin.

  • @MrIekaum EXACTLY. Contrary to Dominionist Newspeak, we are a Secular Constitutional Republic based on the democratic traditions of the Greeks, English, Romans, and Norsemen. Nowhere in the US Constitution are God, Jesus, or the Bible mentioned. Even in the Declaration, the JudaeoChristian God is NEVER specificly mentioned. / Thus my motto in response to wannabe theocratic tyrants: Sic Semper Mors Theocratis et Tyrannis!

  • Secession NOW !

    Debate it Later ....

  • so all of these patiotic i beleive in gvod and the poeple who founded this countrynow want to seceed from the usbecasue they do not want to be a us citizen anymnore. they want to all own guns, they want segregation, theywant slavery,all of the poeple other then white to leave, and they want al.l the jobs and money to go to them. i think its great let thel qmm seceed. frankly who the hell needs them? . we can keep them out from america and secure our borders against them.

  • They seceeded from England because they were being ruled over by ANOTHER NATION. North and South are one nation, we are from the same country yah fucking idiot.

    This people are morons.

  • @mrceebees14 we were one nation too you fucking moron. american colonies were apart of the british empire.

  • what a bunch of nuts.  secessionists are unAmerican.

  • @warblerab let em go who needs em then we can surround them with an electic fence and shoot em for crossing the borders hahaha. its perfectg. we can corral all of the racist ef turds in one place lol. then we give em all guns, lock the gate, and wait and see what happens since they dont want any \government let em govern themselves we can all watch and eat popcorn from the fenceline bring a comfortable chair and a jacket and binoculars

  • @TrollsParade Thats odd logic. I never saw a fenceline stop a projectile. But I would be interesting in watching the spectacle of your viewership play out. Interesting.

  • @warblerab thats how you got to be american you dumbnut. WE seceeded from the british empire. not being allowed to succeed is SLAVERY.

  • Fuck state and local government.

  • were asking the feds if they agree? lets wait for theyr permission..............lets not do anything unless the feds say we can.......................hmmm­mmmhmmmmmhmmmmmmm..........let­s ask the feds if they need more money.......maybe they need more power, lets ask them that...........hmmmyhmmmhmmmm.­.........

  • the first state to Secede from this mess that the our err. the bankers politicians has created i will be the first to apply for citizenship.

    god bless Secessionists Conventions

  • There are some who advocate violence against those who want to secede. How often should it be said: The WILL OF THE PEOPLE is paramount to the politician-especially ones that are sneaky ommunists at heart. They would even try to coax the military to shed blood of civilians and call civilians `traitors'. These snakes are now been exposed for what they really are: communists at heart but publically telling everyone they are freedom people. Let the people decide on whether they want to secede or no

  • My family descendants was from Georgia poor as they were fought against the Union different men died on that battle field. Nullification is inevitable. Yes, Texas will get alot of there military base back got Mexican, Blacks, Orients heck they are willing to die for Texas. Melora72 don't forget 1 Texas Ranger can stop 100 people from a riot.

  • There is a lot of mililtary in Texas. Would it stay in Texas or remain with the Union? That would put a BIG dent in the Texas population. Then when Mexico attacks you, you'll only have state troops to defend you. They will definately teach creationism in schools. Will we build a wall around Texas to control their entry into theh US? It does bring up a lot of what if scenarios.

  • Texas has it's own military. We also have Militia's

    to mention a few. Our Texas borders will be guarded securely. So, when the titanic starts to go down the only people that will be let cross into Texas will be native Texans. Hey dragon, your right about one Texas Ranger holding his own..but not quite 100. LOL!

  • Didn't they use these same DAMMNN ARGUMENTS TO SUPPORT SLAVAERY!! STATES RIGHTS???? The state is apart of the federal government. If they sucede it will be the biggest BLOOD BATH THAT YOU HAVE EVER SEEN!

  • I'm proud that this convention was held in my home state. DISSOLVE THE UNION!

  • I hope and pray that Larry Kilgore wins, but A majority of Texans have been warped to be like the rest of the democratic liberals in america. Austin is overrun with the hipster culture. It's really sad, such oppertunity for the future of Texas.

  • i believe in the union, and wish no state to secede. however, i believe it should be the right of each state to secede as it sees fit. the way i see it, if the republic is incorporated into a north american union - including but not limited to, mexico and canada - this would be a valuable intsrument to disprupt such an unconstituional union.

  • Free Missouri !!!

    Deo Vindice

  • Free Tennessee and Dixie!

    Deo Vindice!(God Will Vindicate!)

  • Independence Now!

    Death before slavery!

  • "Independence Now!

    Death before slavery! "

    I like the way over the last eight years conservatives basically told democrates to suck it up, Bush was President and Republicans at least for awhile were in control. The vote in the last election went against them this time. You motto should be:

    "If we don't get our way, we quit."

    Sounds like a bunch of spoiled brats.

  • Why do people think if there is another secession there will be slavery? Only a retard would do something like that. Slavery is a cultural morre that no developed country would use.

  • And I say good riddance to the toothless banjo brandishing gun gushing racist fucks. Oh, and remember to give back all the federal dollars you enthusiastically accepted to build federal highways and hospitals with. Federal government is bad? INDEED! Try defending yourself against China or Russia with that pussified whiny twang "Don't mess with Texas." Well, I kicked someones ass from texas and then shit all over him. Big fucking talk from little dicked, southern secessionists doesn't scare me!

  • Toothless, Banjo brandishing, what century are you in? These are just a bunch of folks who are exchanging ideas, no state is leaving the union!! And Federal $ come from the taxpayers including the taxpayers in those states!! so the hospitals and highways are paid for by the taxpayers in those states! And who cares about some bullshit fight you had with someone from Texas!! just proves that you are the biggest DUMBASS of all!!!

  • Oh, mountainmuscle your homo-erotic moniker gives you away. FACT Texas pays the fewest taxes, but gets the biggest government hand outs in the union. Looks like you. . .failed again. Why don't you start a seccessionist movement and shoot some people so we can justify hanging you with the other right wing vermin. You republitards just never learn. Stop wiping your asses all over our flag retard and serve our country instead of dividing it. What was your excuse by the way of not serving?cowardess?

  • So now you have something against homosexuals as well! Man youve got issues! You said my homoerotic moniker gives me away--gives what away? Your ramblings give you away!! and whats this bizzare beef you have with Texas. I have never been there and have no plans to do so but I guess you had a bad experience there. What makes you think I did not serve my country?? You assume too much!!

  • You're soooooooooo angry. The angry angry right as you are so aptly named. Look at all the exclamation marks in your rabid frothing at the mouth posts that only serve to expose your cult of insanity.

  • I apologize for the exclamation points!!!!!! I get carried away!!!!!! sometimes!!!!!!  my rabid frothing!!! LOL you are hilarious!!! thanks for making me laugh!!!!

  • I believe divided we are weak, united we are strong. But america is founded in power to the people. This administration is attacking our constitutional right to bear arms, and the federal reserve is robbing our spending power. They are playing with fire in the wrong season.

  • A reporter said on tv that if someone breaks into your home, that's their way of making a living and you can't kill someone for trying to live. That's bullshit, I would fuck up someone if they broke in.

  • The Central Government has become a Tyranny. I believe that Secession is the answer to saving the Constitution.

  • Already the talking heads are becoming nervous about state secession. Of course they're trying to promote One Big World Government, and this will be difficult if the states declare sovereignty. The Federal government has been extorting money from the citizens for too long. Just think if that money could stay within the state economy? It's time to reduce D.C. to what it was initially supposed to be.

  • I wish people would organize for secession as they did for the tea party.

  • I believe once they see their federal taxes gradually skyrocket over the years, and as more false, hysterical "reports" emanate from Washington concerning "right wing extremists", we'll see more states clamoring for secession. Blue states may not, for they're big believers in a strong central government.

  • I am all for secession.

    Most  Americans probably don't understand that it is their right under the Constitution to secede...of course, the 'sheeple' don't understand what's in the Constitution and this very act is likely improbable.

    Say goodbye to the sinking USS America, say hello to the USSA!

    Here comes "change we can believe in"!

  • I remember hearing a Russian professor on some TV panel make claims that what happened in Soviet Union will undoubtedly happen in the US as well. Everyone else laughed and belittled him. Uh-oh.

  • Ask the Romans, a great civilization is not destroyed from without, until it is demoralized and it has destroyed itself from within. Once upon a time there was a country that honored God in its schools and Court Houses, and God blessed our country. America was a bright shining light on a hill.

  • No greenberg31, this country has denied freedom to almost all of the non-white population, has been protestant(which seceded from the catholic church) and the rich families have always been over the workers. Just ask an african american over 60 how god shined on them before the civil rights movement. God has nothing to do with it. Just dumb ignorance. You really think you could survive as a state without federal resources? Just read any book on the confederacy. Point, match

  • @Greenberg31 The false teachings of YEC Hovindism have no place in our schools. FYI our laws are based not on a poorly translated Bronze Age book, but on 2500 years of Greco-Roman, English, & Viking democratic tradition. Fundies have openly come out saying that democracy is the ENEMY of God. I respond to this, quoting our founding fathers....I am EVER the enemy of ALL forms of tyranny over the hearts & minds of man. FYI, THIS INCLUDES THEOCRACY! EPIC FAIL!

  • @Greenberg31 - It shined on native born, straight white educated Christian men. Not anyone else. Everyone else suffered.

  • @Greenberg31 CHRISTIANITY, sir! Christianity had a lot to do with weakening of the Empire. Transferring legal affairs to the Episcopal Church. during the reign of Constantine christianity was placed above all religions; he not only supported the cause but he put it under the protection of government.

  • It's not about stopping immigration, it is about stopping ILLEGAL immigrants that come here and drain our tax dollars. They are destroying our communities with their gangs and crime. If you want to be a part of this country fine, but do it legally. Anyone helping illegal immigrants should be adjudicated for a federal crime. You can anonymously report illegal immigrants to ICE 1-866-347-2423

  • @Greenberg31

    I believe in freedom of movement, and the market should decide how many people should enter america rather than the heavy hand of government. I think it's more worthwhile attacking the idea of taxation, farm subsidies (which run mexican farmers out of business), and government handouts, welfare, etc..

  • @Greenberg31 right-wing, fascist, colonial fool! what about when you invaded america huh? or burnt former slaves? or had an illegal war with afghanistan and iraq, or dropped nuclear weapons on japan, or used illegal weapons on the vietnamese, or supported the taliban against the russians, or how about when your great nation funded the white army go stuff god up your arse where he belongs.... o yea and greetings from britain... your true sovereign, even we are majority atheist now, catch up!

  • @lsdvine what...LOL. Most of the things you mention were done by the country that the South tried very very very hard to secede from. That's exactly why the South tried to secede. Had it been able to not be militarily subjugated, then it would not even be attached to the country that did the "fascist, colonial" things you mention (most of them). And actually, the white vote was taken away and hundreds of thousands of them killed, and more. So goes war and subjugation, even now. lol!

  • @westchesterny Dont give me that shit, you know for a fact that the southern states wanted to maintain slavery and the racist strand took far longer to be overturned (is it still a racist province?) George bush himself from the south, Abrahamic religion is such a stupid stupid piece of shit.... moslems treat women like dirt, Catholics treat women like dirt, Mormons treat women like dirt. Why ?? why are guns legal yet you must not drink before 21? The south is fucked, doesnt deserve independence

  • @lsdvine A) Bush is from Connecticut, and from a family from Connecticut--don't let a cowboy hat fool you (look it up). B) Guns are legal but you can't drink til 21 so you can learn how to shoot BEFORE you get drunk obviously, get some sober practice since it's harder to shoot straight drunk C) If the south have SWORN to set up northern style sweat shops the north STILL would have killed them. There's no slavery NOW, so can they leave NOW. There's your answer: dictatorship.

  • @Greenberg31 legal or illegal this is a barbarian invasion, bro. talk about the Roman Empire. though the barbarians wanted or unwanted, entered the Empire peacefully, they didn't come to help the Romans, but to exploit it. They didn't want to become citizens of Rome but to retain their own culture within the Roman community, which made them a liability to the Roman Empire.

  • Only with the support of each county sheriffs to defend us from them will this effort have a leg too stand on. only a sheriff has constitutional authority to arrest any politician including the president. Rain in the fed. Amen.

  • Amen- Oklahoma did it.

  • I think there are new reasons every day why this would be more justified

  • Good video. Very true too. Can I join the secessionist movement? I support a FREE Georgia.

  • Okay it's time to call all those who insist on calling anyone that thinks freely a "neo-con" a neo-liberal.

  • Raise ther rebellion! We must seceed against the Union. Restore freedom

  • SOUTH CAROLINA WILL BE FIRST AGAIN;

  • woohoo the US is breaking apart. gee i wonder which state will go first, once one breaks away it'll all be chaos!

  • Why does that make you happy??

  • the end of a poem I wrote:

    The time of parliamentarians has comes to an end,

    I can hear the barbarians rising again.

    Don't listen to the propagandists,

    It's not freedom they're* opposed to,

    Civilization doesn't need a center,

    Rome falls because it's supposed to.

    *they references that 'barbarians' not the propagandists, the propagandists are indeed opposed to freedom.

    I second whohoo

  • American by Birth

    Southern by the Grace of God,

    and a Rebel by chioce.

    Stockpiling since 1865.

    We declare that the truth of the war be told now by the Yankee Congress. It should be told on National TV.We will never give up state rights...commies will die. We will resist the NWO and any tyrannical government. We will defend freedom to the end and the meaning of The Constitution and our own State constitutions.Resist the lies spread my congress and their propaganda schools.

  • I agree almost entirely with the sentiments of your post, however I don't understand the commies will die part. If you're gonna resist 'their' propaganda as it is obviously shoved down the public's through by the media and through schools then resist all of it. The fear and hatred of 'commies' is, and has been, one of the central features of 'their' propaganda. It seems you've swallowed this aspect of it hook line and sinker. Simply reflect, what is 'their' interest in having you think this?

  • Well examine the tenants of liberalism and communism. Both are horrible.

  • This government and nation owes its existence to secession. Its the peoples right and its American. Since after all thats we got to be "American" and not British.

  • "We just want to be left alone." J. Davis

  • The only reason I would ever think about coming back to the States is if a "succession movement" took hold in states like Hawaii or Alaska. Other than that, I think I would have a better chance to move to Israel (another snowball's chance in hell) before ever coming back to the land of the prisons and home of the slave.

  • As Always!

    13*

  • Our corporate-government (fascist) is an opportunistic, greedy parasite with an agenda of tyranny...history does repeat itself.

    "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined." (Patrick Henry)

  • Funny that you mention Patrick Henry. Patrick Henry formally an Anti-Federalist and opposed to ratification became a Federalist and adamantly opposed State's right's to interpret the Constitution. He sided with Alexander Hamilton against Jefferson and Madison in the Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions

  • Who wants to continue as wage slaves, in a despotic Marxist police state, living on ones belly? It is better to die on your feet!

    Progressive Liberalism may sound noble, but it is nothing more than communism for capitalist America.

  • I fully agree with stronger local government and smaller Federal government! Read a book called "How I found freedom in an unfree world". It talks about about how a decentralized government is always more efficient than a central government because local people can best decide how to allocate resources.

  • "I fully agree with stronger local government and smaller Federal government! "

    *

    How about weaker local government and a smaller federal government?

    I like that idea better.

  • Second that about WDEF's journalism. This is what unbiased journalism should be. Exactly what F*XS news falsely claims...

  • It's only the Americans with brains that wanna secede from the nation and distance themselves as far as possible from our criminal dictatorship and restore the freedom that our founding forefathers sacrificed everything for. If you had a brain...you could have been one of us...but I guess you like being a slave bootlicker.

  • There are such movements in many US states, including California, Alaska, New England and elsewhere. Retarded hicks?

  • You seem not to have clue...how would you go about securing your freedom in the face of tyranny ? At some point, you, yourself, will have to make a stand against this impending

    dictatorship, unless you're one of those NeoCons...or a coward.

  • This is great! People are talking about state's rights. Thank God! Uncle Sam is getting too big for his britches.

  • Montana Costitution

    Section 1. Popular sovereignty. All political power is vested in and derived from the people. All government of right originates with the people, is founded upon their will only, and is instituted solely for the good of the whole. Section 2. Self-government. The people have the exclusive right of governing themselves as a free, sovereign, and independent state. They may alter or abolish the constitution and form of government whenever they deem it necessary.

  • what is the territori of league of the south? i am european of the basque country. the ls is only nacionalist? comunist like secesion of the league of the south?

  • We need to understand that corporate fascism and communism exist and we need to route them out!

  • It seems incredibly odd for you to group corporate fascism and communism together. I mean I understand that communism is one of the most heavily propagandized words in our culture, but the reason for that is that communist thought, as originally formulated, stands in direct opposition to corporate capitalist style fascism. I guess the propaganda campaign to undermine and confuse the meaning of the word to drive people away from its associated school of thought has worked better than I know...

  • Just a point of clarification, I do not consider myself a communist, in part because due to such propaganda I myself am somewhat unclear of all it entails and what it means to who. I consider myself a pro technology anarcho-primitivist with sympathetic views towards some anarcho-syndicalist (similar to communism under an appropriate formulation) ideas.

  • You do know that socialism voids the smart peoples will to succeed when they have to share their success with those with lower IQ's and deplorable work ethic.

  • Corporate fascism, Vulture capitalism, fascism, socialism, despotism, police states, communism, Marxism, Democracy, all work towards the same thing. A central government. And they use our tax dollars to accomplish their end game. A world government.

    A limited government under a Republic that protect the people, protect peoples rights under constitution and property, allows unlimited prosperity for both the rich, and the poor. Being that the people, or treasury, coin our own money.

  • borjagartzia,

    It appears that your command of the English language is insufficient, both to understand the video and to intelligibly comment on it in English. To try to answer your question, the territory of the League of the South is Dixie, also known as the Confederate States of America in the 1860s. The United States waged war against us after we peacefully and legally seceded. We have been an occupied nation ever since. Latest sovereignty usurpation is renewal of the Voting Rights Act.

  • UglyBonnie: Thanks for telling the truth...and stating it so clearly that the clueless that walk amongst us will be able to understand.

  • Secession is the birthright of free people. If it's not possible, then you are not free.

  • long live all america

  • is this your "Argument" against self determination?

  • GREAT truth great video and Dixie i love.

  • Thanks for real journalism on this! Great report.

  • Fight the power, Y'all!

    I'll be right there with you.

    Let's Roll.

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