@maxcommunist Okay, I live in the U.S. and I want to apologize for this gothkid2 guy. You're being very logical and I get it. Most Americans, in my opinion, actually will listen to a point an respectfully reply with sources and facts to back their opinion. This dude is a polarized media bitch so don't take him seriously.
@CommunisTnT it isn't capitalism ruining things, it's the controlling powers abusing people through the possibilites of capitalism. ever wondered why all forms fail? there are bad people in those chairs.
Oh man, they're so right. Everbody should fight for their rights - like the Tunisian [or Egyptian [ the people in Cairo. :]
I know, it's hard, many people die, but they will win, I'm very sure, and than I thinks, it's better, to lost some people - okay, that's sad for the family- but it's better than to live in in state terror or injustus, right? (:
you mean that in each country with public healthcare, being all-but-2 civilized countries in the world, poor people got to wait for poor people? well what the hell are you talking about? I'd say it would be quite the opposite, although praktical, it happens in both. but private first. those pay the most money, and that's what counts in America.
ALL things in my post are opinions unless mentioned different.
PS. the good thing of obama was his public healthcare idea. rule above counts here.
Wow, your politics are awful and you music is awful. To those who think these guys are "cool". read our Constitution and Declaration of Independence. Than read the lousy Communist Manifesto and the Soviet Constitution. Tell me which is better. By the way that little about right to a job isn't a right to a job it is giving the government the right to force you to work wherever they choose to put you. Wake up and smell the coffee.
@Missy757Sinny Communism being wrong isn't an opinion. Read some history. Read what the commies do when they come into power. Read what they do to the people that help them get into power. Look up the word purge.
@ThePackers123 I still think it's an opinion 'cuz even though I think that religion isn't a good think, some people thinks that religion is great thing.
@Missy757Sinny Read about how Lenin starved the Ukrainians. Read how they took everything that the peasants used to farm including their seeds and stored food and if they tried to hide some so they could eat they were shot. People resorted to cannibalism and Lenin didn't care. Read how they have to get rid of 20 percent of the population to implement it. It isn't an opinion that communism is bad it is the truth.
@ThePackers123 I never mentioned class at all. I just said suck Bill O'Reilly's dick, but I guess your already doing that =D
OHH BTW there hasn't been a true communist state in the world, every nation that has claimed to be communist has actually been totalitarian =D
Of course Communism is inapplicable to modern day society because it would only work if everyone started from zero =D. BTW this country was founded by protest, rebellion, and insurrection.
@JBizzle93 " OHH BTW there hasn't been a true communist state in the world, every nation that has claimed to be communist has actually been totalitarian " That is what they say to cover the fact that Communism is totalitarian. That is what it is. You have no rights in a communist system. The government is God in a communist system. Read the communist manifesto and the Chinese an dSoviet constitution and tell me how great communism is. It is just a modern, brutal form of feudalism.
@JBizzle93 I have my own opinions. I grew up when we still realized the threat of communism in this country. I grew up when we were taught the truth about communism in schools not that it was just another form of government. I do not blame the younger people. You know what you were taught. But now it is time for you to do independent research on what communism is and what they have done to humanity. America gave the gift of freedom to the world. You should be proud of that.
@ThePackers123 Let me correct a few point here, first of all: You read the communist manifesto, it is not what you seem to think it is, it's a beacon of hope for the Proletariat. We've already established that the Chinese and Soviets are/were not true communists so that would be going over old ground to bring that up again. True Communism is a Utopia, the problem is that the Bourgeois are not wiling to give up their wealth, this means it has to be taken by force and that means (continued next)
@liamb109 "Beacon of hope?" You obviously have not read it. How is it a Beacon of hope if the whole point is anti-capitalism and liberty? Marx does not like the fact that a shoemaker say can come up with a better idea and build a factory and employ 100 shoemakers to manufacture his shoes and make a profit and become rich. How dare someone from that "class" his term not mine), advance and rise above where he came from. He needs to stay and be a poor cobbler and let his commie masters rule him.
@ThePackers123 The rich will not give up their wealth? Why should they? Who are the commies to take someones wealth from them that they or their family have earned. And what do they do to them when they will not give up their wealth? They kill them and then they take their wealth. By the way, you know what they do to the clowns that help them get into power? They purge them. That means they kill them. Then they intimidate the masses to do as they say. Some Utopia. Do your research.
@ThePackers123 Do your own research, you speak of purging as if Lenin, Stalin or Mao were ever really communists, the problem is Us. When a human takes power equality will never occur because they have a taste for power and will never give it up, therefore we will be stuck in what Marx called "A dictatorship of the proletariat" the stage before communism. I am certainly no communist, i realised a long time ago that that will never work.
@ThePackers123 I hate to come back to this again but Castro was never a Communist. He was a nationalist in socialist clothing. You'd know this if you understood Cuba. The meaning of Communism is a "Sociopolitical movement that aims for a stateless and classless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production" Now tell me, did those tyrants countries have states? I assume you understand the meaning of the word state? All of those dictatorships featured a ruling class too.
@liamb109 B.S., he is a commie, is buddy Che Guevara who slaughtered black Cubans for being black was a commie, Stalin was a commie, Lenin who starved 15 million Ukrainians was a commie, Trotsky who also murdered was a commie, Mau who murdered 30 million of his own people was a commie, see the theme here. Communists end up being tyrants because being a commie is contrary to being a human. It is also anti U.S. Constitution therefore it is actually treason.
@ThePackers123 You Americans change the definition of the Constitution to suit your purpose time and time again, did you know that you are actually only allowed to buy guns when in a group of a size that could be regarded as a militia? Che was a Communist, his aims were true Communism, his buddy Castro however, was not. His views were mainly nationalistic, You're actually anti-tyrant, your understanding of Communism is that they are the same, they are not.
@liamb109 What do you know about the constitution, what do you know about freedom and liberty? Name one Commie country that wasn't a dictatorship. Read about the scumbag murdering pig named Che. A piece of shit coward that begged for his life and turned his compatriots in. Coward, murdering commie piece of garbage Che the worthless scum. As are all Commies.
@ThePackers123The Paris Commune was the closest that we've ever had to actual Communism, it was not a dictatorship, however they wasted time with Magnanimity and so were unable to destroy the Enemy. Che did not beg for his life, his final words according to a source were "I know you've come to kill me. Shoot, coward! You are only going to kill a man!" Not exactly a beg for life now is it? Also, CIA had to recruit the Butcher of Lyon to capture Che, he was a war criminal and the real scum, a Nazi
@liamb109 Read what the Paris communes did to people who didn't want to commune and my point is made. By the way read what really happened to Che'. He begged for his life and gave up his compatriots. That last line was a bunch of leftist Hollywood B.S. Read about the soldiers that didn't even have to torture the coward before he spilled the beans on all his comrades. Sniveling little racist, bigoted, Commie coward is what Che' was. A real brave revolutionary was George Washington. Viva G.W.
@liamb109 Hey genius, everyone at the time was part of the militia therefore the 2nd amendment applies to the people.
A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Wow that is really hard to understand. Oh wait no it isn't , it is really easy to understand., " the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." I know what communism/socialism is. I don't need you to "teach" me.
Mao, Lenin and Stalin cannot then be regarded as Communists as they did not return power to the Proletariat after it was seized as there was still Classes after their revolutions. This means that it was stuck as an Autocracy, or as Marx called it a "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" The stage before Communism, this shows that no country has ever reached True Communism. South America might have had Che been successful, alas he was killed by the CIA/US troops as I'm sure you know.
@liamb109 No they were Bolivian not CIA/USA troops. It is absurd that you do not consider Mao, Lenin and Stalin communists. Oh I know why because they were brutal murderers and dictators. Oh and so is communism.
@FireCannon27 Well, the reason the commies say that Mao, Lenin, and Stalin aren't commies is because it is documented how many people these communists killed. See, if they admit that the murdering commies, Mao,Stalin and Lenin are commies ten it would be harder to convince young impressionable adults to embrace the ideology of communism which is tyranny. They were communists and they were murderers. So was Che Guevara a murderer. So was Castro. Pol Pot, Ho chi Min etc. and all were murderers.
The reason why we say that they weren't communists is because they were STATE-CAPITALISTIC FASCISTS. you'd know that if you had a basic knowledge of political ideologies.
Ho Chi Minh, Castro, Lenin and Che is the ones in your comment that I think is actually Communists.
There is a BIG difference between Communism and Fascism, and if you knew anything about politics, you'd know that the USSR, China, the eastern block were in fact fascist dictatorships.
@maxcommunist No, that is what your professors, commissars tell you to believe. They can never let you believe that the were commies because then no one would follow such a murderous ideology. All were communist.
"Ho Chi Minh, Castro, Lenin and Che is the ones in your comment that I think is actually Communists." and all of these were murderers.
Haha! What professors and commissars do you refer to? Our country's media is very rightwing, and so is our education system. Why would an education system in a capitalist country promote communism?
They were not communists, everyone who has a basic knowledge about political ideologies knows that. They were fascist state-capitalists.
Murderers? Yes, people were killed by their actions, but they were better than the ones they were fighting against...
@maxcommunist Right Wing? Like Bill Ayers. He is a professor. You are trying to say that the majority of college professors aren't commie sympathizers. You are either a liar or a useful idiot.
Haha, yes, the majority of college professors is INDEED not communists. Where did you get that from? and do you have any statistics proving this? Liar. I haven't met a single teacher that were communist yet. (As for Bill, I have no idea who that is).
They buy things yes, but not exactly the people in the third world. The ones doing the consumtion is we in the western world, whilst they starve.
No, you are wrong. I do make donations to charity!
...What good is a job when you don't earn enough to even get a roof over your family's heads and food on the table like millions on the world? And why fire them when they want their democratic right to join labor unions?
Well, ATLEAST i have a source. perhaps sending a link of that interview would be a could idea to prove that you ain't lying?
I don't care what Stalin says about national socialism. Stalin was a FASCIST, he was not a communist.
@maxcommunist How many businesses are no more because the workers went Union and bankrupted the company. Unions are terrible. They were more honest when they were run by the mob. At least the commies didn't control them then.
How many people is dead now because of anti-union attacks? What is more important to you, profits or lives?
Unions are terrible?
" (4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.". -Article 23, Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
So I take it that by opposing people the right to form and join unions that you oppose Human rights? You, with other words, who claims to support "liberty" and "freedom" oppose basic human rights!
"In political jargon, the term useful idiot was used to describe Soviet sympathizers in Western countries. The implication is that though the person in question naïvely thinks themselves an ally of the Soviets or other ideologies, they are actually held in contempt by them, and were being cynically used. " Look up what all the commies thought about people like you.
@maxcommunist USSR = communism. Communism very similar to communism. Both socialist but slightly different. Read what the commie Stalin said about the similarities.
@maxcommunist Communis and National socialism very similar. Read what Stalin said about that. Stalin the communist that lived in the communist nation of the Soviet Union.
Do you think that smaller countries opinions matter less than other countries opinions? Do you think that foreigners(non-americans) opinions is less worth than americans opinions?
Communism is not a brutal ideology, nowhere in Marx or Engels books is there ever mentioned that "millions needs to be purged" etc. Communism is about bringing power to the people. Power over the economy, the factories etc.
Capitalism on the other hand creates third world poverty, and today 26+ millions of people dies each year due to starvation.
@maxcommunist They actually say that 20 percent of the population has to be eliminated. How does capitalism cause poverty? How does it cause people to starve. The nations with starving people get aid sent to them so they can feed themselves. And who sends the aid. You guessed it. The USA. When there is a calamity and people are starving aid is sent and whosends it? That capitalist country America. You need to do your research.
It's all about profit, the corporations that doesn't create enough profit gets killed by the economical competition by other corporations that created more profits.
And, to get more profits, they cut down on expenses, such as the worker's salaries. That's why most big corporations such as Microsoft, Nike, etc use workers in the third world to do much of the work producing the wares...
@maxcommunist And what do people do with their profit? They buy things. Which means people have to make things for them to buy which means they have a job or a business. You bitch a lot about business. How many things have you donated to a school to help them out. How many uniforms have you bought for kids in sports that can not afford them? How many things have you sponsored? I bet none. It is easier to bitch. And you bitch because you are jealous because you couldn't run a business.
untrue. all murders, but I'd call only lenin a communist, and Castra may get the title of socialist. the United Nations declared him hero of equalty, so what can I say? by the way, you forgot some non-communistic murders: Johnson, Bush, a handfull of CEOs from insurance companies, and so on.
@FireCannon27 Oh if the United Nations said it then it must be true. Are you serious? Castro is a murderer. Your hatred for the U.S. clouds your judgment and reason.
I didn't deny a single killer did I? I even went to some lengts admitting I would (notice: I) call one of them a communist. and if you prefer the judgement of your president above the one from a bunch of people from half of the nations of the world (a guess: I got honesty no idea how much countries are in), then do so. but I'd like to remind you that the UN is more objectieve against castro than your president is, and even you can't deny that. I will continue in the next post.
@FireCannon27 Don't talk to me about our President. We will be voting him out in under two years. I could care diddly squat what the U.N. thinks about anything. It is a useless organization whose whole goal is to dismantle sovereignty and Liberty and capitalism. Of coarse our Pres. wouldn't object to Castro. Castro is one of his heroes. (my opinion) and that should frighten the free world.
all your past presidents talked bad about cuba (the ones after cuba became communist, not the oldest ones), so i expect the next one not to be any different. in my opinion, obama is a ideot capitalist, who got demonized for the only good idea I ever heared in a president election in my damn life. I would be jealous of America? If my picks were Cuba and America, it would be America, to shoot some CEO guys and flee to Cuba. want to hear a thing america is best at? murder.
@FireCannon27 You just said that you would want to come to the U,S. and murder peole than you said that the only thing we were good at is murder. Hmmm. Look at who the majority of murderers are. Leftists.
yes, my judgement is clouded. I admit I don't like america, because A. it opposed socialism, B. it's one of the 2 civilized countries that don't have public healthcare, C. it has filming police violence as a crime, D. attacks whatever country they want, for ideot excuses (yeah, we got nukes, but we don't want them to have them as they're bad). but, america has countless good points, so they're not by defenition a bad country. first line.
@FireCannon27 Ya, public health care where people have to wait years for procedures unless you are rich. If health care is so great in socialist countries why do their rich and famous, and their leaders come to America to get operations? Oops! Just another thing that America is best at. And that is your real problem. My mom who is from England always told me that jealousy was a wasted emotion and I agree. I pity you. There is no room in my life for jealousy. One day you will realize that.
Where did you pull that out from? Never mind, I don't think i want to know...
Their leaders go to America to get operation? Say ONE time when Castro, Guevara, Chavéz, Lula, Lenin etc visited an American hospital?
Jealousy? Dude, i'm not jealous for the US, I feel BAD for american working class. They don't even have public healthcare (which we have here in Sweden, AND a better quality than american). There is wider class gaps, more crime etc...
@maxcommunist Where did I get that from? Look up where World Leaders go to get operations. I said World Leaders not Terrorist Leaders like Chavez, Castro, Guevara etc.
The fact that you claim that Chavéz, Castro and Guevara were terrorists is laughable. If we should talk about terrorists, shouldn't we talk about the Contras in Nicaragua? The dictatorship in Uruguay? Batista? Videla? Pinochet? All of them were US-Backed dictators with the blood of thousands of innocents on their hands.
Around 20.000 Cubans is thought to have died because of the Batistan dictatorship, as comparision, some hundreds were executed after the revolution...
@maxcommunist The Contras were not terrorists. They were reclaiming there country from the Commie terrorists, the Sandinista's. Look up how they murdered a ABC reporter in the streets. I am sure it is on youtube. I do not remember the Contras murdering any reporters.
@ThePackers123 cXontras were indeed terrorists "Americas Watch-which became part of Human Rights Watch accused the Contras of: -Targeting health care clinics and health care workers for assassination. -Kidnapping civilians. -Torturing civilians. -Executing civilians, including children, who were captured in combat. -Raping women. -Indiscriminately attacking civilians and civilian houses. -Seizing civilian property. -Burning civilian houses in captured towns. Source: Americas Watch Committee
@maxcommunist Propaganda spread by the Sandinista s. They could because the Commie bastards murdered so many of the free press that they could report what they wanted/
No, it wasen't propaganda. The Americas Watch-which became part of Human Rights Watch, was the ones who said this. Are they "Commie liars" as well?
"I dont care two shits about the stupid UN. I care about the USA"
So basicly you don't care about the rest of the world, just your country? You don't want us to have our opinions, but the USA should have one? Why the hell should the USA be a world-police anyhow? The days for American Imperialism is soon over.
@maxcommunist You got it you tiny little swede. Be careful what you wish for. The last thing your tiny little country wants is to not have the US there to protect the West. Oh we don't protect the West? Sure we don't. It is our Navy that keeps the sea lanes free and our country that has been protecting Europe for 70 years. And you act like we are the selfish ones. You are the spoiled brats that do not realize or care all that has been done for you. You useful idiot puke.
Haha, I'M a spoiled brat? I am the one supporting global distributation of wealth, to END world poverty and starvation. You are the one supporting Capitalism, a system that leads to the death of above 20 millions annually.
The Illuminati is just a hoax, like the lizardmen theory or the free-masons. Conspiracy theories like that is just out to distract us from the current capitalist world order.
@maxcommunist Better standard of living, are you kidding me? You really believe that? That isn't what the Swedes that move here say. They say thank God they are fortunate enough to live here.
Sweden reaches 9.50 on a 1.00-10.00 index of Democracy made by the Economist. The USA reaches 8.18.
Sweden has 3.3 doctors per 1,000 people. USA has 2,3.
Sweden has 8.5% unemployment, the US has 9,3%.
A report of 2007-2008 showed the 19th countries with highest Human Development Index, Sweden topped it at rank 1, and the US got rank 17. The US is alone of the developing countries without an universal healthcare system.
You can look all these facts up, they are correct.
@maxcommunist That's why when a swede makes it they move here. Our unemployment rate is high at the moment not because of anything other then electing socialists pretending to be Americans. That have been trying to take us down from the inside but we are on to them and will vote the rest of them out in the next election and soon things will be back to normal in our great country. We have alot greater are to take over and we have millions of illegals sapping our resources. All soon to change.
Is it hard for you to get it? Swedes is not moving to America in large numbers, that was one hundred years ago!
If you decide to continue to claim that, atleast write down some sources on it!.
Obama is far from a socialist, he is a capitalist. If he were a socialist, he would had nationalized the banks and the industry, and destroyed the class system. He has not.
A socialist would wipe out unemployment as it is a creation by capitalism...
@maxcommunist Wikipedia, wow that is a great source. There is an interview with one of the Bolivian soldiers where he tells how he begged for his life and turned his compatriots in. The soldiers were disgusted by him. They thought he would be a brave revolutionary but instead he was a coward. Some hero Che the murdering, bigoted, racist scum Guevara is.
You shouldn't be worried about the illegal immigrants. You should be worried about the capitalist system. That is the reason to the regular financial crashes. That is what is creating unemployment. If it weren't for unemployment, people wouldn't be as desperate to get a job and due to this be willing to work for lower wages to get one.
They also wouldn't accept removing from them the democratic right to organise in trade unions.
As I said, how the hell could I be brainwashed by communist propaganda whilst living in a capitalist society? I'd rather think it is your american rightwing media that has brainwashed you.
Batista's dictatorship killed above 20,000 people. Che's "purge" had around 150-200 executions. The american and french imperialism in Vietnam killed millions.
Haha, who says that? Marx and Engels? How about writing the exact quote?
Respond to this video... On blacks, immigrants and indigents:
"...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born." Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people
On the purpose of birth control:
The purpose in promoting birth control was "to create a race of thoroughbreds," she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)
I do not know who Margaret Sanger is, and I do not know why you are writing down her quotes.
Tell me, if a twelve year old child would get raped, pregnant, and due to her poor conditions perhaps not be able to survive the birth, would you choose to get rid of the fetus, which may or may not be able to feel pain
(Scientists is agreed that this is impossible to tell) or let the fetus live and perhaps kill both the baby and it's mother?
...Because they are not paid nearly enough as a worker in the western world. They are actually paid in near-slavery wages. That's why their work hours is so high. That's why they ban such democratic rights as the right of workers to unite in labor unions, and actually kill many people associates with labor unions.
(Like in Colombia, where thousands of labor union-people has been murdered for the past decades).
@maxcommunist You are a useful idiot trying to spread commie propaganda. You know what is neat though. All I have to say for everyone reading these posts is look up how Lenin starved 15 million Ukrainians. Look up how many people Stalin killed. Look up how closely related national socialism and communism were. Look up how Che murdered people then died a coward. Look up how many people Mao killed. Look all that up and see how maxcommunist is a liar and is trying to sway peoples opinion. Liar!
I'm NOT a liar. Stalin and Mao were brutal swines, millions died by them.
You should look up yourself how Che died, and not on your usual right-wing websites.
National socialism and communism is two TOTALLY different ideologies, why do you think the first ones in the concentration camps were communists?
Millions died after the soviet civil war of starvation, but it wasen't LENIN who brought in the starvation on purpose. What are you, daft? It was due to the chaos in the USSR.
@maxcommunist Really? read what Stalin says about Natinal Socialism. It was competing with communism and was a very similar ideology and Stalin wanted it to be quashed because he wanted soviet socialism to prevail. Not what I said what Stalin said look it up.
What i have to say to people reading this is: Look how thepackers123 is avoiding my questions. Look how he doesn't answer them. Look how he does not use ANY sources. Look how he changes the subjects.
@maxcommunist I am not answering questions? I am telling people they should do their own research and come up with their own opinion. I am confident when they read the true history of the murdering ideology of communism they will not like it. Your lies will hold no weight. See Commies hate people doing their own research because you can not brainwash an informed citizenry. That is why you go after the pressand brainwash the children.
No, you are NOT answering questions, this is like the fourth time i've asked a simple question, and you HAVE not answered it. I'm stupid? You are the one incapable of answering a very simple question:
"If a ten year old girl is raped, and gets pregnant, and is too weak to make it through the birth, shouldn't she have the choice to be saved, and do an abortion? Do you want to force such a terrible experience, and perhaps death on a CHILD?"
Capitalism needs unemployment to survive because with a high unemployment, people will be willing to work for lower wages, just to get jobs. They'll also avoid labor unions, because they can be fired just for joining one. They want to keep their jobs.
Yes, the western world does send out foreign aid, but this merely a drip in the ocean. USA sends out 0,2% off their national income in foreign aid. Not nearly enough to combat world hunger...
@maxcommunist How would capitalism need high unemployment to survive you ignorant person. If people are unemployed they do not have the money to purchase products which would create more unemployment which would mean less people able to purchase products thus creating more supply than demand which would create more unemployment. How on God's green Earth would unemployment help capitalism you brainwashed gullible useful idiot? High unemployment is needed for socialism.
It needs high unemployment, not total unemployment. A lot of people still have jobs and is able to consume products to keep the gears rolling.
The main reason to financial crisis is because there is too many products and not enough people buying them. This is because the people do not have enough cash to buy those wares. Then there's a crash, and this cycle continues.
HOW is unemployment needed for socialism? EXPLAIN exactly how.
Is it right that the USA should spend $685.1 billion on their military whilst only spending $26.9 billion on foreign aid? Isn't it more important to SAVE than to TAKE lives? After all, terrorism needs poverty to survive...
Also, under Capitalism, it is far easier for corporations to rob the third world of their natural resources whilst their government is in imbalance, this is why the USA continues their Imperialism in Latin America...
Why? Hah, perhaps to save millions of lives? Do you not feel anything at the fact that 26 MILLIONS dies each year due to starvation?!
I do not know, and I don't care. Neither one of those states were/are Communist, they were/are state-capitalist fascist dictatorships.
It is sad that violence must be used, but, as i said, it is necessary. The capitalists won't give up their power without a fight. Che did the right thing.
@maxcommunist By the way, look up how much the U.S. helps the staving and how little the commies do. Che is a scum. A murdering, racist, bigoted scum who died a coward with his tail between his legs.
Haha, do you think that you'll convince me that Che was that by repeating it over and over with absolutly no evidence to back it up?
Helps the starving? You asked me why the US should even send out foreign aid! And your foreign aid % to your national income is low compared to other countries. The US should plant the majority of their defence budget into foreign aid, and SAVE lives instead of TAKING them.
@maxcommunist You are a lost cause. The people who read our posts are not. And they will do their own research on the murdering scum Che Guvars, who was an adulterer, racist bigot who died a coward after betraying his comrades.
Exactly WHAT does it matter if Che Guevara were an adulterer or not? Sex life does not have anything to do with a man's political life...
You are the one who continues to claim ridiocolous things, WITHOUT any sources at all, and despite the fact that I've proven your claims wrong numerous times.
You are the liar, sir. I don't hate people doing their own research. I despise people making sick claims without any evidence to back it up. Liars in my eyes.
@maxcommunist I have not been proven wrong. Everything I said about Che Guevara, the non bathing, adulterer, murdering scum commie rat that sold out his comrades before he died a cowards death is public knowledge. Just because some idiots think he looks cool on a poster or a t-shirt doesn't make him a hero. If you want to read about real heroes look up George Patton or George Washington. Sadly neutral pussy countries like Sweden do not have heroes that's why women like Victoria silvstedt move.
You still can't answer my question, is it truly that hard?
You HAVE been proven wrong by multiple quotes and arguements. You have nothing to counter me with. The reason why Che Guevara made those quotes is because he was young and uneducated, and racist bias is common in Latin America. I've been there myself and seen it. Have you?
I agree, I hate people wearing a T-shirt of him and not knowing anything about him..
@maxcommunist You must hate yourself then when you are wearing you ridiculous Che shirt because you know nothing about the murdering scum that was Che Guevara.
George Washington? A hero? Haha! The man owned multiple slaves. He was a true racist slaveowner.
Haha, yes, some of our celebrities does move to the USA, so what? It's not like it's common to leave Sweden for the US, it would probably be a very stupid thing to do, as Sweden has:
@maxcommunist Higher standard of living? Most families in the US own 2 cars with a lot owning three or more. We also own boats, houses etc. And our houses. The average size house in America is 2330 sq. feet, in Sweden less than 1000 sq ft. 1 car if lucky and probably live in an apartment.
Many Swedes will tell you that there's only one law in Sweden that matters, and that's the mythical Law of Jante, which promotes the idea that being average is the most desirable of personal qualities.
@maxcommunist You truly average. You must be a proud Swede seeings as you are so average and blah. No wonder your beautiful women move here. Sadly the average stay there.
@maxcommunist U S has the top colleges in the world. Look it up. You have to remember the US statistics get scued by the millions of illegals that sneak in our country, do drugs, kill each other etc. Not a level playing field stats vs stats.
If there's plenty of evidence then why don't you post links to them?
You've failed to answer a simple question I've asked over four times, let's try with another question. second time i'm asking this:
Do you think that smaller countries opinions matter less than other countries opinions? Do you think that foreigners(non-americans) opinions is less worth than americans opinions?
You sure do not have any arguments left to counter me with, as you continue to make personal attacks instead of using arguments, backed up with evidence. You need evidence to make such claims as you do, is that so hard to get?
Until you write any sources to those claims, you will continue to be a liar in my eyes.
You are FAR from an informed citizen. You lack basic knowledge in politics. You clearly do not know history(As you make ridicolous un-backed claims)...
If a ten year old girl is raped, and gets pregnant, and is too weak to make it through the birth, shouldn't she have the choice to be saved, and do an abortion? Do you want to force such a terrible experience, and perhaps death, on a CHILD?
Now, before you comment, please answer this question:
If a ten year old girl is raped, and gets pregnant, and is too weak to make it through the birth, shouldn't she have the choice to be saved, and do an abortion? Do you want to force such a terrible experience, and perhaps death, on a CHILD?
Cleanse races? Haha! Abortion is about giving WOMEN POWER OVER THEIR OWN BODIES. it's that simple.
Answer my question: Would you force a raped pregnant ten year old to do the birth of her baby, whilst she may be too weak to survive? And whilst the baby could die as well? Isn't it far more important to save the ten year old girl from a terrible experience and perhaps death?
anti flag has difficult clapping patterns =s
hokmahmilitia 6 days ago
nothing wrong being a capitalists.... or communists..... or socialist.... or whatever you wanna be.... its whatever..... lol....
dukeboyz100 2 weeks ago
/watch?v=HY9dwOmsHXY&feature=g-u-u&context=G26800e4FUAAAAAAAAAA
Support us! Share it!
DaMaurer279 1 month ago
what album is this song on?
blinktbs182 1 month ago
5 capitalist pigs are on the wrong page
cravensfall 2 months ago 2
@cravensfall fuck yeah
Petegrin1 1 month ago
@maxcommunist Okay, I live in the U.S. and I want to apologize for this gothkid2 guy. You're being very logical and I get it. Most Americans, in my opinion, actually will listen to a point an respectfully reply with sources and facts to back their opinion. This dude is a polarized media bitch so don't take him seriously.
TheOfficialSyndrome 2 months ago
4 dislikes........Fuck Capitalists
pyrosync60 3 months ago
usually i dont sing but this song made me sing the whole song ^^
po1pro 4 months ago in playlist Liked 2
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po1pro 5 months ago
did you draw the guy in the background at 0:24 ?
TheMrMurmaider 5 months ago 2
@TheMrMurmaider No I didn't. It's just a picture I found on the internet. But I wished i could draw like that! ^^
Missy757Sinny 5 months ago
@Missy757Sinny yeah! me too^^
TheMrMurmaider 5 months ago
@Missy757Sinny Can you remember where you found it? I'd like to have it as my wallpaper xDD
dermieper 4 months ago
@dermieper Just type dark wallpaper in google, you should find it easily. ^^
Missy757Sinny 4 months ago
@Missy757Sinny Thanks! :) Found it.^^
dermieper 4 months ago
@Missy757Sinny why would we confront washing D.C.? the elites are the ones who are truley running the show!
nerdymom2 2 weeks ago
3 capitalists saw the song
CommunisTnT 7 months ago 16
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hokmahmilitia 6 months ago
@CommunisTnT it isn't capitalism ruining things, it's the controlling powers abusing people through the possibilites of capitalism. ever wondered why all forms fail? there are bad people in those chairs.
DNP1993 1 month ago
The chorus is unbelieveably inspiring.
Beautiful song, just...beautiful.<3
JasonasSka 7 months ago
PUNK WILL NEVER DIE!
MrFreewayCA 8 months ago 30
@MrFreewayCA FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tayzXlove 6 months ago
my favourite song by anti flag
nogalsmetalica 8 months ago
Oh man, they're so right. Everbody should fight for their rights - like the Tunisian [or Egyptian [ the people in Cairo. :]
I know, it's hard, many people die, but they will win, I'm very sure, and than I thinks, it's better, to lost some people - okay, that's sad for the family- but it's better than to live in in state terror or injustus, right? (:
[ I'm sorry for mistakes. x: ]
VeilDemon 1 year ago 2
maroon 5 in the sugestion box? wtf
8ninjaguy8 1 year ago
small mistake: you mean that in each country, being all-but-2 civilized countries in the world, poor people have to wait for rich people?
FireCannon27 1 year ago
you mean that in each country with public healthcare, being all-but-2 civilized countries in the world, poor people got to wait for poor people? well what the hell are you talking about? I'd say it would be quite the opposite, although praktical, it happens in both. but private first. those pay the most money, and that's what counts in America.
ALL things in my post are opinions unless mentioned different.
PS. the good thing of obama was his public healthcare idea. rule above counts here.
FireCannon27 1 year ago
@FireCannon27 That's why when people need an operation that can afford it they get it in America.
Keep dreaming.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
My god, this is gonna be my new theme song!
PloK00nsClone 1 year ago
Wow, your politics are awful and you music is awful. To those who think these guys are "cool". read our Constitution and Declaration of Independence. Than read the lousy Communist Manifesto and the Soviet Constitution. Tell me which is better. By the way that little about right to a job isn't a right to a job it is giving the government the right to force you to work wherever they choose to put you. Wake up and smell the coffee.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123 Everybody has different opinions on different subject. It is not beacause you think different that you think the RIGHT way.
Everybody is free to believe what they want.
Missy757Sinny 1 year ago
@Missy757Sinny Communism being wrong isn't an opinion. Read some history. Read what the commies do when they come into power. Read what they do to the people that help them get into power. Look up the word purge.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123 I still think it's an opinion 'cuz even though I think that religion isn't a good think, some people thinks that religion is great thing.
Missy757Sinny 1 year ago
@Missy757Sinny Read about how Lenin starved the Ukrainians. Read how they took everything that the peasants used to farm including their seeds and stored food and if they tried to hide some so they could eat they were shot. People resorted to cannibalism and Lenin didn't care. Read how they have to get rid of 20 percent of the population to implement it. It isn't an opinion that communism is bad it is the truth.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Oh, by the way:
If you don't like the music, don't listen to it.
Missy757Sinny 1 year ago
@Missy757Sinny If you don't like the country and the principles it was founded on leave.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123 Have I ever said that??
Missy757Sinny 1 year ago
@Missy757Sinny If you believe what they are saying in this song than yes you did.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123 Go suck bill O'reilly's Dick while he's sucking the GOP's Dick
JBizzle93 1 year ago
@JBizzle93 Oh ya get into that class warfare. Why dont you read the Communist Manifesto so you know what you are backing.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123 I never mentioned class at all. I just said suck Bill O'Reilly's dick, but I guess your already doing that =D
OHH BTW there hasn't been a true communist state in the world, every nation that has claimed to be communist has actually been totalitarian =D
Of course Communism is inapplicable to modern day society because it would only work if everyone started from zero =D. BTW this country was founded by protest, rebellion, and insurrection.
JBizzle93 1 year ago
@JBizzle93 " OHH BTW there hasn't been a true communist state in the world, every nation that has claimed to be communist has actually been totalitarian " That is what they say to cover the fact that Communism is totalitarian. That is what it is. You have no rights in a communist system. The government is God in a communist system. Read the communist manifesto and the Chinese an dSoviet constitution and tell me how great communism is. It is just a modern, brutal form of feudalism.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Ok, ok we got your points...
Now, go disturb someone else, we're busy...
Listening to some good music!
Missy757Sinny 1 year ago
@ThePackers123 Umm it's not but sure, live in your world of Glenn Beck's vision.
JBizzle93 1 year ago
@JBizzle93 umm it is and I do not take my marching orders from anyone. I have hated the Commies long before Glenn Beck came on the scene.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@JBizzle93 I have my own opinions. I grew up when we still realized the threat of communism in this country. I grew up when we were taught the truth about communism in schools not that it was just another form of government. I do not blame the younger people. You know what you were taught. But now it is time for you to do independent research on what communism is and what they have done to humanity. America gave the gift of freedom to the world. You should be proud of that.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123 Let me correct a few point here, first of all: You read the communist manifesto, it is not what you seem to think it is, it's a beacon of hope for the Proletariat. We've already established that the Chinese and Soviets are/were not true communists so that would be going over old ground to bring that up again. True Communism is a Utopia, the problem is that the Bourgeois are not wiling to give up their wealth, this means it has to be taken by force and that means (continued next)
liamb109 1 year ago
@liamb109 "Beacon of hope?" You obviously have not read it. How is it a Beacon of hope if the whole point is anti-capitalism and liberty? Marx does not like the fact that a shoemaker say can come up with a better idea and build a factory and employ 100 shoemakers to manufacture his shoes and make a profit and become rich. How dare someone from that "class" his term not mine), advance and rise above where he came from. He needs to stay and be a poor cobbler and let his commie masters rule him.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123 The rich will not give up their wealth? Why should they? Who are the commies to take someones wealth from them that they or their family have earned. And what do they do to them when they will not give up their wealth? They kill them and then they take their wealth. By the way, you know what they do to the clowns that help them get into power? They purge them. That means they kill them. Then they intimidate the masses to do as they say. Some Utopia. Do your research.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123 Do your own research, you speak of purging as if Lenin, Stalin or Mao were ever really communists, the problem is Us. When a human takes power equality will never occur because they have a taste for power and will never give it up, therefore we will be stuck in what Marx called "A dictatorship of the proletariat" the stage before communism. I am certainly no communist, i realised a long time ago that that will never work.
liamb109 1 year ago
Mau, Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Chavez, Castro, Che Guvara, Brezhnev, Khrushchev all communists, all murderers period.,
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123 I hate to come back to this again but Castro was never a Communist. He was a nationalist in socialist clothing. You'd know this if you understood Cuba. The meaning of Communism is a "Sociopolitical movement that aims for a stateless and classless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production" Now tell me, did those tyrants countries have states? I assume you understand the meaning of the word state? All of those dictatorships featured a ruling class too.
liamb109 1 year ago
@liamb109 B.S., he is a commie, is buddy Che Guevara who slaughtered black Cubans for being black was a commie, Stalin was a commie, Lenin who starved 15 million Ukrainians was a commie, Trotsky who also murdered was a commie, Mau who murdered 30 million of his own people was a commie, see the theme here. Communists end up being tyrants because being a commie is contrary to being a human. It is also anti U.S. Constitution therefore it is actually treason.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123 You Americans change the definition of the Constitution to suit your purpose time and time again, did you know that you are actually only allowed to buy guns when in a group of a size that could be regarded as a militia? Che was a Communist, his aims were true Communism, his buddy Castro however, was not. His views were mainly nationalistic, You're actually anti-tyrant, your understanding of Communism is that they are the same, they are not.
liamb109 1 year ago
@liamb109 What do you know about the constitution, what do you know about freedom and liberty? Name one Commie country that wasn't a dictatorship. Read about the scumbag murdering pig named Che. A piece of shit coward that begged for his life and turned his compatriots in. Coward, murdering commie piece of garbage Che the worthless scum. As are all Commies.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123The Paris Commune was the closest that we've ever had to actual Communism, it was not a dictatorship, however they wasted time with Magnanimity and so were unable to destroy the Enemy. Che did not beg for his life, his final words according to a source were "I know you've come to kill me. Shoot, coward! You are only going to kill a man!" Not exactly a beg for life now is it? Also, CIA had to recruit the Butcher of Lyon to capture Che, he was a war criminal and the real scum, a Nazi
liamb109 1 year ago
@liamb109 Read what the Paris communes did to people who didn't want to commune and my point is made. By the way read what really happened to Che'. He begged for his life and gave up his compatriots. That last line was a bunch of leftist Hollywood B.S. Read about the soldiers that didn't even have to torture the coward before he spilled the beans on all his comrades. Sniveling little racist, bigoted, Commie coward is what Che' was. A real brave revolutionary was George Washington. Viva G.W.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@liamb109 Hey genius, everyone at the time was part of the militia therefore the 2nd amendment applies to the people.
A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Wow that is really hard to understand. Oh wait no it isn't , it is really easy to understand., " the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." I know what communism/socialism is. I don't need you to "teach" me.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Mao, Lenin and Stalin cannot then be regarded as Communists as they did not return power to the Proletariat after it was seized as there was still Classes after their revolutions. This means that it was stuck as an Autocracy, or as Marx called it a "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" The stage before Communism, this shows that no country has ever reached True Communism. South America might have had Che been successful, alas he was killed by the CIA/US troops as I'm sure you know.
liamb109 1 year ago
@liamb109 No they were Bolivian not CIA/USA troops. It is absurd that you do not consider Mao, Lenin and Stalin communists. Oh I know why because they were brutal murderers and dictators. Oh and so is communism.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
If you claim you know what Communism is, how CAN you say Mao and Stalin are? unsure about Lenin, I don't know a lot about him.
FireCannon27 1 year ago
@FireCannon27 Well, the reason the commies say that Mao, Lenin, and Stalin aren't commies is because it is documented how many people these communists killed. See, if they admit that the murdering commies, Mao,Stalin and Lenin are commies ten it would be harder to convince young impressionable adults to embrace the ideology of communism which is tyranny. They were communists and they were murderers. So was Che Guevara a murderer. So was Castro. Pol Pot, Ho chi Min etc. and all were murderers.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
The reason why we say that they weren't communists is because they were STATE-CAPITALISTIC FASCISTS. you'd know that if you had a basic knowledge of political ideologies.
Ho Chi Minh, Castro, Lenin and Che is the ones in your comment that I think is actually Communists.
There is a BIG difference between Communism and Fascism, and if you knew anything about politics, you'd know that the USSR, China, the eastern block were in fact fascist dictatorships.
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist No, that is what your professors, commissars tell you to believe. They can never let you believe that the were commies because then no one would follow such a murderous ideology. All were communist.
"Ho Chi Minh, Castro, Lenin and Che is the ones in your comment that I think is actually Communists." and all of these were murderers.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Haha! What professors and commissars do you refer to? Our country's media is very rightwing, and so is our education system. Why would an education system in a capitalist country promote communism?
They were not communists, everyone who has a basic knowledge about political ideologies knows that. They were fascist state-capitalists.
Murderers? Yes, people were killed by their actions, but they were better than the ones they were fighting against...
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist Right Wing? Like Bill Ayers. He is a professor. You are trying to say that the majority of college professors aren't commie sympathizers. You are either a liar or a useful idiot.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Haha, yes, the majority of college professors is INDEED not communists. Where did you get that from? and do you have any statistics proving this? Liar. I haven't met a single teacher that were communist yet. (As for Bill, I have no idea who that is).
They buy things yes, but not exactly the people in the third world. The ones doing the consumtion is we in the western world, whilst they starve.
No, you are wrong. I do make donations to charity!
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist You really must be stupid.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
...What good is a job when you don't earn enough to even get a roof over your family's heads and food on the table like millions on the world? And why fire them when they want their democratic right to join labor unions?
Well, ATLEAST i have a source. perhaps sending a link of that interview would be a could idea to prove that you ain't lying?
I don't care what Stalin says about national socialism. Stalin was a FASCIST, he was not a communist.
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist How many businesses are no more because the workers went Union and bankrupted the company. Unions are terrible. They were more honest when they were run by the mob. At least the commies didn't control them then.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
How many people is dead now because of anti-union attacks? What is more important to you, profits or lives?
Unions are terrible?
" (4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.". -Article 23, Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
So I take it that by opposing people the right to form and join unions that you oppose Human rights? You, with other words, who claims to support "liberty" and "freedom" oppose basic human rights!
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist You truly are a "useful idiot."
"In political jargon, the term useful idiot was used to describe Soviet sympathizers in Western countries. The implication is that though the person in question naïvely thinks themselves an ally of the Soviets or other ideologies, they are actually held in contempt by them, and were being cynically used. " Look up what all the commies thought about people like you.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
The USSR were not Communist. It was a fascist, state-capitalistic dictatorship.
Why should I care what fascistoid capitalists thought about me decennias ago?
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist USSR = communism. Communism very similar to communism. Both socialist but slightly different. Read what the commie Stalin said about the similarities.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
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@ThePackers123
And once again you have proven yourself unable to answer a VERY simple question! Congratulations!
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist Communis and National socialism very similar. Read what Stalin said about that. Stalin the communist that lived in the communist nation of the Soviet Union.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Do you think that smaller countries opinions matter less than other countries opinions? Do you think that foreigners(non-americans) opinions is less worth than americans opinions?
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist Do you understand sarcasm? You truly are defensive. I think that is why you are a commie. Some stupid way of rebelling.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Communism is not a brutal ideology, nowhere in Marx or Engels books is there ever mentioned that "millions needs to be purged" etc. Communism is about bringing power to the people. Power over the economy, the factories etc.
Capitalism on the other hand creates third world poverty, and today 26+ millions of people dies each year due to starvation.
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist They actually say that 20 percent of the population has to be eliminated. How does capitalism cause poverty? How does it cause people to starve. The nations with starving people get aid sent to them so they can feed themselves. And who sends the aid. You guessed it. The USA. When there is a calamity and people are starving aid is sent and whosends it? That capitalist country America. You need to do your research.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Capitalism creates poverty because:
It's all about profit, the corporations that doesn't create enough profit gets killed by the economical competition by other corporations that created more profits.
And, to get more profits, they cut down on expenses, such as the worker's salaries. That's why most big corporations such as Microsoft, Nike, etc use workers in the third world to do much of the work producing the wares...
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist And what do people do with their profit? They buy things. Which means people have to make things for them to buy which means they have a job or a business. You bitch a lot about business. How many things have you donated to a school to help them out. How many uniforms have you bought for kids in sports that can not afford them? How many things have you sponsored? I bet none. It is easier to bitch. And you bitch because you are jealous because you couldn't run a business.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
untrue. all murders, but I'd call only lenin a communist, and Castra may get the title of socialist. the United Nations declared him hero of equalty, so what can I say? by the way, you forgot some non-communistic murders: Johnson, Bush, a handfull of CEOs from insurance companies, and so on.
FireCannon27 1 year ago
@FireCannon27 Oh if the United Nations said it then it must be true. Are you serious? Castro is a murderer. Your hatred for the U.S. clouds your judgment and reason.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
I didn't deny a single killer did I? I even went to some lengts admitting I would (notice: I) call one of them a communist. and if you prefer the judgement of your president above the one from a bunch of people from half of the nations of the world (a guess: I got honesty no idea how much countries are in), then do so. but I'd like to remind you that the UN is more objectieve against castro than your president is, and even you can't deny that. I will continue in the next post.
FireCannon27 1 year ago
@FireCannon27 Don't talk to me about our President. We will be voting him out in under two years. I could care diddly squat what the U.N. thinks about anything. It is a useless organization whose whole goal is to dismantle sovereignty and Liberty and capitalism. Of coarse our Pres. wouldn't object to Castro. Castro is one of his heroes. (my opinion) and that should frighten the free world.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
all your past presidents talked bad about cuba (the ones after cuba became communist, not the oldest ones), so i expect the next one not to be any different. in my opinion, obama is a ideot capitalist, who got demonized for the only good idea I ever heared in a president election in my damn life. I would be jealous of America? If my picks were Cuba and America, it would be America, to shoot some CEO guys and flee to Cuba. want to hear a thing america is best at? murder.
FireCannon27 1 year ago
@FireCannon27 You just said that you would want to come to the U,S. and murder peole than you said that the only thing we were good at is murder. Hmmm. Look at who the majority of murderers are. Leftists.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
[continued, read the one under first]
yes, my judgement is clouded. I admit I don't like america, because A. it opposed socialism, B. it's one of the 2 civilized countries that don't have public healthcare, C. it has filming police violence as a crime, D. attacks whatever country they want, for ideot excuses (yeah, we got nukes, but we don't want them to have them as they're bad). but, america has countless good points, so they're not by defenition a bad country. first line.
FireCannon27 1 year ago
@FireCannon27 Ya, public health care where people have to wait years for procedures unless you are rich. If health care is so great in socialist countries why do their rich and famous, and their leaders come to America to get operations? Oops! Just another thing that America is best at. And that is your real problem. My mom who is from England always told me that jealousy was a wasted emotion and I agree. I pity you. There is no room in my life for jealousy. One day you will realize that.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Where did you pull that out from? Never mind, I don't think i want to know...
Their leaders go to America to get operation? Say ONE time when Castro, Guevara, Chavéz, Lula, Lenin etc visited an American hospital?
Jealousy? Dude, i'm not jealous for the US, I feel BAD for american working class. They don't even have public healthcare (which we have here in Sweden, AND a better quality than american). There is wider class gaps, more crime etc...
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist Where did I get that from? Look up where World Leaders go to get operations. I said World Leaders not Terrorist Leaders like Chavez, Castro, Guevara etc.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
The fact that you claim that Chavéz, Castro and Guevara were terrorists is laughable. If we should talk about terrorists, shouldn't we talk about the Contras in Nicaragua? The dictatorship in Uruguay? Batista? Videla? Pinochet? All of them were US-Backed dictators with the blood of thousands of innocents on their hands.
Around 20.000 Cubans is thought to have died because of the Batistan dictatorship, as comparision, some hundreds were executed after the revolution...
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist The Contras were not terrorists. They were reclaiming there country from the Commie terrorists, the Sandinista's. Look up how they murdered a ABC reporter in the streets. I am sure it is on youtube. I do not remember the Contras murdering any reporters.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist Propaganda spread by the Sandinista s. They could because the Commie bastards murdered so many of the free press that they could report what they wanted/
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
No, it wasen't propaganda. The Americas Watch-which became part of Human Rights Watch, was the ones who said this. Are they "Commie liars" as well?
"I dont care two shits about the stupid UN. I care about the USA"
So basicly you don't care about the rest of the world, just your country? You don't want us to have our opinions, but the USA should have one? Why the hell should the USA be a world-police anyhow? The days for American Imperialism is soon over.
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist You got it you tiny little swede. Be careful what you wish for. The last thing your tiny little country wants is to not have the US there to protect the West. Oh we don't protect the West? Sure we don't. It is our Navy that keeps the sea lanes free and our country that has been protecting Europe for 70 years. And you act like we are the selfish ones. You are the spoiled brats that do not realize or care all that has been done for you. You useful idiot puke.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Haha, I'M a spoiled brat? I am the one supporting global distributation of wealth, to END world poverty and starvation. You are the one supporting Capitalism, a system that leads to the death of above 20 millions annually.
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist illuminati are in power
nothing u can do about it
gotthkid2 11 months ago
@gotthkid2
The Illuminati is just a hoax, like the lizardmen theory or the free-masons. Conspiracy theories like that is just out to distract us from the current capitalist world order.
maxcommunist 11 months ago
@maxcommunist looks liek you havent done your research.........idoit
gotthkid2 11 months ago
@gotthkid2
Sorry, I don't feel like going on idiotic conspiracy theorist websites. It's all a huge distraction, face it.
maxcommunist 11 months ago
@maxcommunist so u think our government loves us an isent trying to de populate us?
gotthkid2 11 months ago
@maxcommunist well why are u on an anti government song if u think the government loves us?
gotthkid2 11 months ago
@gotthkid2
Have I ever said that the government loves us? No. Stop making up things.
The capitalist world order has spread those ridiculous conspiracy theories to distract us from the real thing.
maxcommunist 11 months ago
@maxcommunist so your basically saying the governments plan IS to make us belive in it so they can get away with what their REALLY doing?
gotthkid2 11 months ago
@gotthkid2
Yup
maxcommunist 11 months ago
@ThePackers123
Sources: WHO, UN.
Where is YOURS? Liar.
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
By the way, way to go with totally abandoning discussing the standards of living in Sweden and USA, I guess the statistics were too much for you?
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Everything that has been done for you? Hah, the USA has never done anything for Sweden, except for dragging us down in various financial crisises.
maxcommunist 11 months ago
@maxcommunist Better standard of living, are you kidding me? You really believe that? That isn't what the Swedes that move here say. They say thank God they are fortunate enough to live here.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Sweden reaches 9.50 on a 1.00-10.00 index of Democracy made by the Economist. The USA reaches 8.18.
Sweden has 3.3 doctors per 1,000 people. USA has 2,3.
Sweden has 8.5% unemployment, the US has 9,3%.
A report of 2007-2008 showed the 19th countries with highest Human Development Index, Sweden topped it at rank 1, and the US got rank 17. The US is alone of the developing countries without an universal healthcare system.
You can look all these facts up, they are correct.
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist That's why when a swede makes it they move here. Our unemployment rate is high at the moment not because of anything other then electing socialists pretending to be Americans. That have been trying to take us down from the inside but we are on to them and will vote the rest of them out in the next election and soon things will be back to normal in our great country. We have alot greater are to take over and we have millions of illegals sapping our resources. All soon to change.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Is it hard for you to get it? Swedes is not moving to America in large numbers, that was one hundred years ago!
If you decide to continue to claim that, atleast write down some sources on it!.
Obama is far from a socialist, he is a capitalist. If he were a socialist, he would had nationalized the banks and the industry, and destroyed the class system. He has not.
A socialist would wipe out unemployment as it is a creation by capitalism...
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist You really are mistaken.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
You are incredibly mistaken in the ridiculous claims you make. How about backing them up with some sources?
(My Sources:
Wikipedia
Che's last words:Summary of various accounts of Che Guevara's Death at George Washington University)
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist Wikipedia, wow that is a great source. There is an interview with one of the Bolivian soldiers where he tells how he begged for his life and turned his compatriots in. The soldiers were disgusted by him. They thought he would be a brave revolutionary but instead he was a coward. Some hero Che the murdering, bigoted, racist scum Guevara is.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
You shouldn't be worried about the illegal immigrants. You should be worried about the capitalist system. That is the reason to the regular financial crashes. That is what is creating unemployment. If it weren't for unemployment, people wouldn't be as desperate to get a job and due to this be willing to work for lower wages to get one.
They also wouldn't accept removing from them the democratic right to organise in trade unions.
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist Are you really that brainwashed?
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
As I said, how the hell could I be brainwashed by communist propaganda whilst living in a capitalist society? I'd rather think it is your american rightwing media that has brainwashed you.
Batista's dictatorship killed above 20,000 people. Che's "purge" had around 150-200 executions. The american and french imperialism in Vietnam killed millions.
Haha, who says that? Marx and Engels? How about writing the exact quote?
maxcommunist 1 year ago
Respond to this video... On blacks, immigrants and indigents:
"...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born." Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people
On the purpose of birth control:
The purpose in promoting birth control was "to create a race of thoroughbreds," she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
I do not know who Margaret Sanger is, and I do not know why you are writing down her quotes.
Tell me, if a twelve year old child would get raped, pregnant, and due to her poor conditions perhaps not be able to survive the birth, would you choose to get rid of the fetus, which may or may not be able to feel pain
(Scientists is agreed that this is impossible to tell) or let the fetus live and perhaps kill both the baby and it's mother?
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist Margarette Sanger is the founder of planned parenthood. Started to cleanse races from America. That is what abortion is really about.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
...Because they are not paid nearly enough as a worker in the western world. They are actually paid in near-slavery wages. That's why their work hours is so high. That's why they ban such democratic rights as the right of workers to unite in labor unions, and actually kill many people associates with labor unions.
(Like in Colombia, where thousands of labor union-people has been murdered for the past decades).
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist You are a useful idiot trying to spread commie propaganda. You know what is neat though. All I have to say for everyone reading these posts is look up how Lenin starved 15 million Ukrainians. Look up how many people Stalin killed. Look up how closely related national socialism and communism were. Look up how Che murdered people then died a coward. Look up how many people Mao killed. Look all that up and see how maxcommunist is a liar and is trying to sway peoples opinion. Liar!
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
I'm NOT a liar. Stalin and Mao were brutal swines, millions died by them.
You should look up yourself how Che died, and not on your usual right-wing websites.
National socialism and communism is two TOTALLY different ideologies, why do you think the first ones in the concentration camps were communists?
Millions died after the soviet civil war of starvation, but it wasen't LENIN who brought in the starvation on purpose. What are you, daft? It was due to the chaos in the USSR.
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist Really? read what Stalin says about Natinal Socialism. It was competing with communism and was a very similar ideology and Stalin wanted it to be quashed because he wanted soviet socialism to prevail. Not what I said what Stalin said look it up.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
What i have to say to people reading this is: Look how thepackers123 is avoiding my questions. Look how he doesn't answer them. Look how he does not use ANY sources. Look how he changes the subjects.
I'd say he is out of arguments.
By the way, sources: Wikipedia.
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist I am not answering questions? I am telling people they should do their own research and come up with their own opinion. I am confident when they read the true history of the murdering ideology of communism they will not like it. Your lies will hold no weight. See Commies hate people doing their own research because you can not brainwash an informed citizenry. That is why you go after the pressand brainwash the children.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
No, you are NOT answering questions, this is like the fourth time i've asked a simple question, and you HAVE not answered it. I'm stupid? You are the one incapable of answering a very simple question:
"If a ten year old girl is raped, and gets pregnant, and is too weak to make it through the birth, shouldn't she have the choice to be saved, and do an abortion? Do you want to force such a terrible experience, and perhaps death on a CHILD?"
I don't see how hard it is to answer
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Capitalism needs unemployment to survive because with a high unemployment, people will be willing to work for lower wages, just to get jobs. They'll also avoid labor unions, because they can be fired just for joining one. They want to keep their jobs.
Yes, the western world does send out foreign aid, but this merely a drip in the ocean. USA sends out 0,2% off their national income in foreign aid. Not nearly enough to combat world hunger...
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist You truly are a brainwashed useful idiot or you are a comisar. Either way you are commie scum.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@maxcommunist How would capitalism need high unemployment to survive you ignorant person. If people are unemployed they do not have the money to purchase products which would create more unemployment which would mean less people able to purchase products thus creating more supply than demand which would create more unemployment. How on God's green Earth would unemployment help capitalism you brainwashed gullible useful idiot? High unemployment is needed for socialism.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
It needs high unemployment, not total unemployment. A lot of people still have jobs and is able to consume products to keep the gears rolling.
The main reason to financial crisis is because there is too many products and not enough people buying them. This is because the people do not have enough cash to buy those wares. Then there's a crash, and this cycle continues.
HOW is unemployment needed for socialism? EXPLAIN exactly how.
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Is it right that the USA should spend $685.1 billion on their military whilst only spending $26.9 billion on foreign aid? Isn't it more important to SAVE than to TAKE lives? After all, terrorism needs poverty to survive...
Also, under Capitalism, it is far easier for corporations to rob the third world of their natural resources whilst their government is in imbalance, this is why the USA continues their Imperialism in Latin America...
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist Why should we spend any money on foreign aid? How much does China spend on aid? How much did the Soviet Union spend on aid?
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Why? Hah, perhaps to save millions of lives? Do you not feel anything at the fact that 26 MILLIONS dies each year due to starvation?!
I do not know, and I don't care. Neither one of those states were/are Communist, they were/are state-capitalist fascist dictatorships.
It is sad that violence must be used, but, as i said, it is necessary. The capitalists won't give up their power without a fight. Che did the right thing.
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist By the way, look up how much the U.S. helps the staving and how little the commies do. Che is a scum. A murdering, racist, bigoted scum who died a coward with his tail between his legs.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Haha, do you think that you'll convince me that Che was that by repeating it over and over with absolutly no evidence to back it up?
Helps the starving? You asked me why the US should even send out foreign aid! And your foreign aid % to your national income is low compared to other countries. The US should plant the majority of their defence budget into foreign aid, and SAVE lives instead of TAKING them.
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist You are a lost cause. The people who read our posts are not. And they will do their own research on the murdering scum Che Guvars, who was an adulterer, racist bigot who died a coward after betraying his comrades.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Exactly WHAT does it matter if Che Guevara were an adulterer or not? Sex life does not have anything to do with a man's political life...
You are the one who continues to claim ridiocolous things, WITHOUT any sources at all, and despite the fact that I've proven your claims wrong numerous times.
You are the liar, sir. I don't hate people doing their own research. I despise people making sick claims without any evidence to back it up. Liars in my eyes.
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist I have not been proven wrong. Everything I said about Che Guevara, the non bathing, adulterer, murdering scum commie rat that sold out his comrades before he died a cowards death is public knowledge. Just because some idiots think he looks cool on a poster or a t-shirt doesn't make him a hero. If you want to read about real heroes look up George Patton or George Washington. Sadly neutral pussy countries like Sweden do not have heroes that's why women like Victoria silvstedt move.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
If you don't care then why are you answering?
You still can't answer my question, is it truly that hard?
You HAVE been proven wrong by multiple quotes and arguements. You have nothing to counter me with. The reason why Che Guevara made those quotes is because he was young and uneducated, and racist bias is common in Latin America. I've been there myself and seen it. Have you?
I agree, I hate people wearing a T-shirt of him and not knowing anything about him..
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist You must hate yourself then when you are wearing you ridiculous Che shirt because you know nothing about the murdering scum that was Che Guevara.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
George Washington? A hero? Haha! The man owned multiple slaves. He was a true racist slaveowner.
Haha, yes, some of our celebrities does move to the USA, so what? It's not like it's common to leave Sweden for the US, it would probably be a very stupid thing to do, as Sweden has:
Higher basic standards of living
A universal healthcare
Better healthcare quality
Better education quality
Than the US.
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist Higher standard of living? Most families in the US own 2 cars with a lot owning three or more. We also own boats, houses etc. And our houses. The average size house in America is 2330 sq. feet, in Sweden less than 1000 sq ft. 1 car if lucky and probably live in an apartment.
Many Swedes will tell you that there's only one law in Sweden that matters, and that's the mythical Law of Jante, which promotes the idea that being average is the most desirable of personal qualities.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
@ThePackers123
I think I know more about the Jante law than you, as a Swede. Sorry.
Facts:
Risk of dying before age of 60: US: 15,4% Sweden: 6,7%
Population below 50% of median income: US: 12,% Sweden: 6,5%.
Infant mortality rate per 1000 births: US: 6.3 Sweden: 3.2
US homelessness: 1 per 200 population. Sweden: 1 per 525.
What does the size of homes matter if more people does not even own a house in the USA than in Sweden?
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist You truly average. You must be a proud Swede seeings as you are so average and blah. No wonder your beautiful women move here. Sadly the average stay there.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@maxcommunist U S has the top colleges in the world. Look it up. You have to remember the US statistics get scued by the millions of illegals that sneak in our country, do drugs, kill each other etc. Not a level playing field stats vs stats.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@maxcommunist Plenty of evidence and the people who do their own research will see what a scum Che was.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
If there's plenty of evidence then why don't you post links to them?
You've failed to answer a simple question I've asked over four times, let's try with another question. second time i'm asking this:
Do you think that smaller countries opinions matter less than other countries opinions? Do you think that foreigners(non-americans) opinions is less worth than americans opinions?
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist If you can not be true to your spouse how can you be true to your cause or your comrades. That's right...he wasn't.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
You sure do not have any arguments left to counter me with, as you continue to make personal attacks instead of using arguments, backed up with evidence. You need evidence to make such claims as you do, is that so hard to get?
Until you write any sources to those claims, you will continue to be a liar in my eyes.
You are FAR from an informed citizen. You lack basic knowledge in politics. You clearly do not know history(As you make ridicolous un-backed claims)...
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist You are from tiny little irrelevant Sweden. What do I care what a dipshit like you believes about anything.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
Respond to this video... The US has fed more starving people in 1 year than Sweden has in 20.
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
If a ten year old girl is raped, and gets pregnant, and is too weak to make it through the birth, shouldn't she have the choice to be saved, and do an abortion? Do you want to force such a terrible experience, and perhaps death, on a CHILD?
PLEASE answer this question now.
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Now, before you comment, please answer this question:
If a ten year old girl is raped, and gets pregnant, and is too weak to make it through the birth, shouldn't she have the choice to be saved, and do an abortion? Do you want to force such a terrible experience, and perhaps death, on a CHILD?
maxcommunist 1 year ago
@maxcommunist Are you a pregnant 10 year old girl?
ThePackers123 1 year ago
@ThePackers123
Cleanse races? Haha! Abortion is about giving WOMEN POWER OVER THEIR OWN BODIES. it's that simple.
Answer my question: Would you force a raped pregnant ten year old to do the birth of her baby, whilst she may be too weak to survive? And whilst the baby could die as well? Isn't it far more important to save the ten year old girl from a terrible experience and perhaps death?
maxcommunist 1 year ago