Added: 3 years ago
From: chingonraza
Views: 19,298
Sort by time | Sort by thread (beta)

Link to this comment:

Share to:
see all

All Comments (30)

Sign In or Sign Up now to post a comment!
  • BJJ is a copycat of this.

  • @holidayrap if bjj is a copy cat then why did Kimura ask Helio to come teach in Japan after beating Helio. It would make no sense to have a brazilian teaching tradiional jj or judo, night and day

  • @MMALibrary Who knows. Maybe because Kimura wanted someone Helio's size to show that judo techniques can still be effective. But what I do know is that BJJ gets way too much credit for grappling.

    BJJ continues to borrow/use/steal..whatever way you put it )techniques from other arts. NOTHING WRONG with that..but give credit where credit is due.

  • @holidayrap Every bjj practitioner I know acknowledges Judo as the original art. In my school, we have pictures of both Helio Gracie and Jigoro Kano that we bow to before and after class. You can not, however, deny that the Brazilians molded ne-waza into a more solid art form.

  • @newazason Ya I can agree on the Brazilians remarkable contribution to grappling in general particularly the Gracies. But in 50 years people are going to be looking back and realizing how much the AMERICANS have further refined the art by perfecting counters, take down defenses. Hopefully there wont be a new name for it like " American grappling" or something.

    Which brings me back to my original point of having the respect to give credit where its due. Props to your school for doing so.

  • @holidayrap American grappling has been around for a long time. In fact, it is THE original American martial art. It evolved into what we know as pro wrestling today. Before it turned into a theatre act, it was called catch-as-catch-can. Yet, it's still a different art altogether. The gracies borrowed from this art, as well as sambo and judo, to create a more well rounded grappling focused system. Known as Gracie Jiu Jitsu, or bjj today.

  • @newazason I don't know if you got my point and the rest is open to debate...which i don't want to get in to. So, I'll let you have the last word on that.

  • @newazason Catch Wrestling was developed in England and assimilated techniques from Japanese Jujitsu and was introduced to America from Imigrants etc and then continued to evolve

  • These should still be allowed, who agrees?

  • epic side control escape at 1:09

  • Comment removed

  • @downstreamlife  yes it was and before he did a similar one at around :30. Only one leglock at the end and it was brutal.

  • @downstreamlife Word! That escape was the shit. I am totally trying this in class.

  • @downstreamlife Hell yes. I saw this and was like DAMN, I have to learn that ****!!!!

  • AWSOME! Thank you VERY much! :-)

  • ok guys just to make the point clearer.

    JUDO HAS LEGLOCKS-BUT WE DONT USE THEM IN COMPS.

    ONLY AT DAN GRADING LEVEL.

    AGAIN WE HAVE THEM WE DONT USE THEM

    THANK YOU

  • @judopathoftruth

    While what you are saying is the truth, most Judo schools I know got rid of Leg Locks all together. Just because they are taught in Judo and not used in competitions, doesn't mean they will be taught in all Judo dojos. I actually think MOST dojos won't even teach them.

  • @tearo The only Judo school that teaches them is Gokor's, and that is only because they are also a sambo, submission grappling, and mma gym.

  • @SakoYo Gokor is a beast. He's scares me.

    I pracitced sambo btw.

  • @tearo I train with Alberto Crane, a BJJ black belt who trained with Gokor, and that guy is a monster with leglocks as well, and he's passed on to some of his students. I have to constantly protect my legs during the no-gi classes.

  • You must be pretty good with leg locks yourself then! Or at least, going to be good wit leg locks.

    I once trained with someone who is really skilled with compression leg locks. The most painful ones, and got my knee injured badly.

  • @tearo I'm alright with leglocks, I know how to defend against them and I do get them on people from time to time, but leglocks aren't my go-to-moves when I'm grappling.

  • thank you for sharing. Do you know if they teach some of these techniques still or are these illegal techniques?

  • the leg locks are illegal in competition, but are still taught. I think only black belts learn them, but I might be wrong.

    great video

  • I have seen some of them (leg locks) in proffesional wrestling.

  • theyre not in the kodokan syllabus but individual instructors might teach them somewhere.You dont learn them at black belt or any other belt.

  • Hard to say these days. I'd say go to a Sambo club those guys know how to incorporate leglocks with traditional Judo newaza.

  • Aos professores de artes marciais: Admirem e lutem para que esta época de respeito aos valores e origem volte para era atual...

  • Glad to share

  • good footage 5 stars thanks for sharing

Loading...
0 / 00Unsaved Playlist Return to active list
    1. Your queue is empty. Add videos to your queue using this button:
      or sign in to load a different list.
    Loading...Loading...Saving...
    • Clear all videos from this list
    • Learn more