#Muslima: Islam is more than strange - it is bullshit - HERE IS THE PROOF
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#QURAN 3:151We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.
#Fight against people until they say there is no God but Allah", abrogated an earlier tradition. Abu Dawud vol.2 no.3188 p.908
#Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us.Tabari IX:69
the cup cars are the ones porsche races in the american le mans series,,,don't think they're street legal,...and usually do a pretty good job of kicking ferrari's ass ...incredible cars!
I love all three porsches but would't the turbo have problems in a real competitive race because of turbo lag? I assume that turbo-lag would make it very hard to compete once the track is full of cars trying to beat each other. Just by itself in a track, the turbo might lap it quicker, but not with 40 other cars, turbo-lag would make the car unpredictable, not to mention the thermal bomb the turbo has on its rear and maybe even reliability, which makes the GT a better choice on the track.
turbos don't effect racing negatively since you are always in the power band. turbos suck for autocross or street where you can't always have the revs high. If turbos kick in at 4,000 rpm, and you shift to keep the rpm's from 5,000 to 7500, you get what i'm saying? preference is another story though.
@viasevenvai The problem with turbos is that their power band is so narrow as you've just alluded to. And even on the track it's difficult to keep the power exactly in range...You don't want to take a corner at 5000rpm because half way through the exit you are going to have to change... so in that sense turbos are at a disadvantage to an NA engine (assuming all else is equal, like power)
@2007TypeR i appreciate your comment after 8 months but i don't think you have a point. not all turbos give you a narrow band of power. most transmissions, especially close ratio ones will only drop your rpms by about 1,500rpms. Also, in a corner you won't be accelerating until after the apex, so the idea of shifting mid corner doesn't even matter. Basically I'm just defending the idea that a turbo is inferior on the track. It's fine especially if you have the gearing and the traction :)
Well generally we have classes of racing so you tend only to be racing with other turbo cars. My view is that if everything else is equal in terms of car that a NA engine is preferably to a turbo engine of equal power. So you'd rather than a NA 500hp engine than a turbo'd engine developing the same power.
Turbo's aren't inferior but i fundamentally believe that NA is better to drive.
@AmemiyaRx8 no you are absolutely right. Porsche isn't some car with an aftermarket turbo kit. They specifically design their cars with turbo systems that have such little lag that they don't have a disadvantage like a normal turbo setup.
yeah the temp isnt good and the roads aernt grippy but still you can get a better launch than that... the cayman especially not so much the GT3 cup both look like vette food to me ...
yeah that was definately a really shitty launch. a professional race car should get off faster than that. it was probably because it was a noob driver.
the guy with the gt3 is so stupid...did u see how he accelerated when the race started? fuckin' idiot...and if it wasn't for the TC he could do a burnout without breaks with all that hp.
Actually the GT3 Cups sound is some of the most beautiful engine sounds you will ever hear... BUT, this what you hear here is redlining and RPM limiter without TC.
Fuck any body who didn't like the video or the event it was for fun dam you fuckin youtuber's have no fucksense on humor or nothing it was a special event that why people came out.
Yes this video ROCKS why easy this is my CUZ racing in the Race Car Paul Miller Car), NO LIE People and they went to shut down 11th street NYC. Byrce Miller is great racer and a great Go Kart Racer as well and what he drives on the side is a BMW M3.
these drivers suck! the moron must not know that redlining means shift cuz ur pistons are shutting off! lucky he doesnt have some american muscle car or he'd be running those pistons through the engine.
Bryce Miller, driver of the cup car, was 3rd place in the points standings in the Rolex Grand Am series. Have you ever tried to get traction in a Cup car on cold slicks, in NYC roads, on a 35 degree day? I think not.
@Garage419 Mister 419, as you say, on a 35 degree day? people are wearing jackets there is no way that its 35c, and also these drivers do suck, a fwd driver could get better traction
can't complain.. and its true what he said, this roads are full of potholes.. too bad that i wasn't there for that. i went to the show yesterday which was the last day.. good stuff there though.
ever been inside a Cup car with no sound dampening, carbon doors, and straight cut gearing, while driving on a public street full of potholes? That's what they sound like.
Fucking idiots standing on the side there. Exactly how the stupid get weeded out of the population. Then people call me cruel when I say they deserve it after the accident happens. (which it has a few times lately)
Thy olde story: city boy's small office ridden testicles covered up by the big, screaming loud, fast, red german automobile. Just imagine how small the stick is to come up with pathetic show like that. They couldn't even afford to shut down a real street, just 11th avenue, driving their cars over a bridge out of sight. Get real drivers with real nuts, the cars appear to have potential.
The Cayman is designed for turning fast lap times on a road course, not doing donuts. Mid engined cars with super sticky tires, driven by people who don't own them aren't ideal cars for spinning tires in circles. What is impressive is that a street car that doesn't look like much crossed the finish line just 2 feet behind a stripped Cup car on slicks.
This is insane! I love it but I was scared for the people standing on the sidelines. I don't know how they got permission to do that! But man it's cool.
PERFECT....
ZurriyetBlogs 7 months ago
lol these drivers crap cant even do a controlled donut
TheDerrenBrown 11 months ago
they got stuff like this in NYC?? when???
LaffterMatters 1 year ago
wtf l2drive
Snake1337h4x0r 1 year ago
What music is that?
SRAMEK 1 year ago
#Muslima: Islam is more than strange - it is bullshit - HERE IS THE PROOF
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#QURAN 3:151We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.
#Fight against people until they say there is no God but Allah", abrogated an earlier tradition. Abu Dawud vol.2 no.3188 p.908
#Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us.Tabari IX:69
miladmeah 1 year ago
that cayman is hot
carl206rc 2 years ago
the cup cars are the ones porsche races in the american le mans series,,,don't think they're street legal,...and usually do a pretty good job of kicking ferrari's ass ...incredible cars!
webkinzfreak221 2 years ago
cant do doughnuts?
Aaron3636 2 years ago 2
@Aaron3636 They are probably running super grippy slicks that are warmed up... kinda hard to keep those thing spinning they are so grippy.
2007TypeR 1 year ago
what a completely pointless exercise
1983youknowsit 2 years ago 5
I love all three porsches but would't the turbo have problems in a real competitive race because of turbo lag? I assume that turbo-lag would make it very hard to compete once the track is full of cars trying to beat each other. Just by itself in a track, the turbo might lap it quicker, but not with 40 other cars, turbo-lag would make the car unpredictable, not to mention the thermal bomb the turbo has on its rear and maybe even reliability, which makes the GT a better choice on the track.
vortechporsche 2 years ago
turbos don't effect racing negatively since you are always in the power band. turbos suck for autocross or street where you can't always have the revs high. If turbos kick in at 4,000 rpm, and you shift to keep the rpm's from 5,000 to 7500, you get what i'm saying? preference is another story though.
viasevenvai 2 years ago
@viasevenvai The problem with turbos is that their power band is so narrow as you've just alluded to. And even on the track it's difficult to keep the power exactly in range...You don't want to take a corner at 5000rpm because half way through the exit you are going to have to change... so in that sense turbos are at a disadvantage to an NA engine (assuming all else is equal, like power)
2007TypeR 1 year ago
@2007TypeR i appreciate your comment after 8 months but i don't think you have a point. not all turbos give you a narrow band of power. most transmissions, especially close ratio ones will only drop your rpms by about 1,500rpms. Also, in a corner you won't be accelerating until after the apex, so the idea of shifting mid corner doesn't even matter. Basically I'm just defending the idea that a turbo is inferior on the track. It's fine especially if you have the gearing and the traction :)
viasevenvai 1 year ago
Well generally we have classes of racing so you tend only to be racing with other turbo cars. My view is that if everything else is equal in terms of car that a NA engine is preferably to a turbo engine of equal power. So you'd rather than a NA 500hp engine than a turbo'd engine developing the same power.
Turbo's aren't inferior but i fundamentally believe that NA is better to drive.
2007TypeR 1 year ago
@2007TypeR yeah i vote NA too, but I got sold into the idea that the turbo engine is cheaper to tune.
viasevenvai 1 year ago
man, the GT2 has 2 turbos, no turbo lag at all.
one kicks in at low RPM, the other at higher RPM, so there.
i have absolutely no idea why GT2s aren't used for racing alongside GT3s
sirtristan01 2 years ago
porsche has its unique turbo system and i believe there's almost no turbo lag in 911 turbo at least 997s...
sorry If i'm wrong
AmemiyaRX8 2 years ago
@AmemiyaRx8 no you are absolutely right. Porsche isn't some car with an aftermarket turbo kit. They specifically design their cars with turbo systems that have such little lag that they don't have a disadvantage like a normal turbo setup.
CommanderB9488 1 year ago
Beautiful cars! Anyone who hates it is most likely Narrow/closed minded moron who can't count above or below 8 cylinders!
supersayin1 2 years ago 2
dumb as fuk
Drkadrk 2 years ago
this is just dumb
clockmeatsandwich 2 years ago
is gt3 rs better or 911 turbo or cayman ?????????????????/plzz reply plzzzzzzzzzz reply??
united4ever786 2 years ago
I believe it's whatever you prefer.
The cayman T is a (heavily) tuned up streetcar, the gt3 is a purposebuilt racer.
Rumour has it the cayman is the best porsche out there at the moment, IF you put in an LSD.
RJW14 2 years ago
better than cayman.. but not than turbo
GtrEvo 2 years ago
gtr3 is the best one. the gtr3 is for racing. the rurbo is also good and the cayman is the little brother of the cayman angt gtr3
1341348fg 2 years ago
track after track the gt3 is SLOWER than a 911 turbo. so theres your answer all wheel drive and a gob more hp will do that for ya.
nannygoat415 2 years ago
kinda the wrong question, askin which is the best between gt3, 911 turbo, and cayman. the gt2 beets them all.
kdawghomie 2 years ago
the gt3 rs is the fastest of those three cars
knop42 2 years ago
This video is stupid, fucking guidos.
tokyosmash 2 years ago
not very good on the clutch 1 of em
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45604560 3 years ago
I`ve never thought that the GT3 Cup 997 is such a monster !
PorscheBulgaria 3 years ago
stupid cayman
Drkadrk 3 years ago
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Andrewsfireworks 3 years ago
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leligre 3 years ago
ok those guys musta been outa the crowd and paid to do something like that... cos they had no idea what they were doing. it made my skin crawl eeeeww
banditss 3 years ago
You dont know what your talking about... do you.
Cold Temps and shitty roads. A decent launch a car like that is near impossible.
Chaser350Z 3 years ago
yeah the temp isnt good and the roads aernt grippy but still you can get a better launch than that... the cayman especially not so much the GT3 cup both look like vette food to me ...
DaBluedude100 3 years ago
vette food??? A GT3 Cup car would bend a vette over.
Chaser350Z 3 years ago 3
not in this race...
DaBluedude100 3 years ago
The vette would have troubles putting all the power down as well, but indeed.
Useless heating/tearing up of the tires, and very sloppy clutchwork.
RJW14 2 years ago
It's always good to see good videos...
Igetpaiddaily 3 years ago
he is in gumball to
tyrepikke 3 years ago
nice
Roman658 3 years ago
i have never seen such a stupid way of comparing these two track cars...what did this test prove?
easynickman 3 years ago 12
@easynickman its just for fun to prove that they can tear up the car and the track!!
NLPETERNL 1 year ago
anyone else think that was a crappy launch for the cup car?
yumsalad 3 years ago
yeah that was definately a really shitty launch. a professional race car should get off faster than that. it was probably because it was a noob driver.
Bearcat909 3 years ago
I hate caymans
Defibrillator 3 years ago
why ?
alaskacity 3 years ago
the guy with the gt3 is so stupid...did u see how he accelerated when the race started? fuckin' idiot...and if it wasn't for the TC he could do a burnout without breaks with all that hp.
xxxtoxxxandxxx 3 years ago
da porsche w/ da red , -n- black drives much better than da other 1!!!
spiter22 3 years ago
you can see on the gt3 onboard cam how hard that suspension is, that car is an amazing machine
MattEvo22 3 years ago
I know it was running fine, but that GT3 Cup sounded terrible inside...
Frostbite545 3 years ago 2
Actually the GT3 Cups sound is some of the most beautiful engine sounds you will ever hear... BUT, this what you hear here is redlining and RPM limiter without TC.
xxwhatevahxx 3 years ago
What are those lights on the dash?
subisblack 3 years ago
traction control prolly
swicknire 3 years ago
shift light
CarnageR1 3 years ago 2
TDRMS Traction Control
pindrop 3 years ago
this is y I luv New York, but da driver w/ da red porsche sucks ballz!!!!!
spiter22 3 years ago
Fuck any body who didn't like the video or the event it was for fun dam you fuckin youtuber's have no fucksense on humor or nothing it was a special event that why people came out.
gblikesnikes 3 years ago 2
Yes this video ROCKS why easy this is my CUZ racing in the Race Car Paul Miller Car), NO LIE People and they went to shut down 11th street NYC. Byrce Miller is great racer and a great Go Kart Racer as well and what he drives on the side is a BMW M3.
vetec4 3 years ago
fucK!!!!!!
FlaminiaStreetKrew 3 years ago
these drivers suck! the moron must not know that redlining means shift cuz ur pistons are shutting off! lucky he doesnt have some american muscle car or he'd be running those pistons through the engine.
1kryptopro 3 years ago
Bryce Miller, driver of the cup car, was 3rd place in the points standings in the Rolex Grand Am series. Have you ever tried to get traction in a Cup car on cold slicks, in NYC roads, on a 35 degree day? I think not.
-Matt
Garage419 3 years ago 13
@Garage419 Mister 419, as you say, on a 35 degree day? people are wearing jackets there is no way that its 35c, and also these drivers do suck, a fwd driver could get better traction
Snake1337h4x0r 1 year ago
@Snake1337h4x0r 35F... 1C?
maverick223 1 year ago
@maverick223 sorry i use celius like everybody do not the american dumb system
Snake1337h4x0r 1 year ago
@maverick223
hihi
bamboali 11 months ago
@Garage419 Yeah you tell 'em :-)
MagicAyrtonforever 10 months ago
@1kryptopro - That may be the stupidest thing I've heard all week.
DaedalusZero 1 year ago
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PORSCHE PIECE OF SHIT !
GO TRUE ! GO JDM !
1xPr0jectZxVieT 3 years ago
Fuucken right.
GinoGina69 3 years ago
COOL BURNOUT'S
FASTAZHELL 3 years ago
I feel sorry for that Porsche, and laugh at its lame drivers
rusak24 3 years ago
I'm going to have to sal "LAME" on this one guys
edadrift 3 years ago
datz da worse driver ever
when da light turns on it means shift!
rompeyal 3 years ago
That is the worst driving i have ever seen when the red lights flash that means shift.
bobbyp311 3 years ago
Just not that cool...
PMAZ7 3 years ago
wow some traction issues lmao
tubegangsta 3 years ago
not likin this 2 much
RavIICE 3 years ago
can't complain.. and its true what he said, this roads are full of potholes.. too bad that i wasn't there for that. i went to the show yesterday which was the last day.. good stuff there though.
Gganstadr15 3 years ago
ur right, they sound like they r gunna fall apart and they aint going fast at all
redjokerz2 3 years ago
ever been inside a Cup car with no sound dampening, carbon doors, and straight cut gearing, while driving on a public street full of potholes? That's what they sound like.
Garage419 3 years ago 6
You are obviously a noob and have never seen a GT race.
chanrobi 3 years ago
The tuned Cayman isn't bad either...
Cre8to9 3 years ago
you cant call street racing cause i bet you theres this ambulance waiting in the corner and police accepted this race...
bmanomaniac 3 years ago
the gt sounds like shit... really...
Negroxc 3 years ago
oh does it now
armand959 3 years ago
The GT3 sounds like its gonna fall apart.
raymundoirvan 3 years ago
nice rides, cool video..love the cop car on the corner, this must have been a police agreed to sanction.
9secondsflat 3 years ago
it clearly says it in the description. read once in awhile.
diveit 3 years ago
If the GT3 Cup is monster, imagine what the RSR is like...
onoitsaWRX 3 years ago 2
hahahahhahaha cahs only!
MarinerMercury 3 years ago
boring
MauriceMalone 3 years ago
too much power, tires can't even grip
babytris24 3 years ago
not the tires, its the road
lunatic312 3 years ago
This is not live.
cntmn8td2006 3 years ago
wow you are smart, when he said live he meant at that moment. Not when you viewed it did it air live on youtube
vxe001 3 years ago
When during Saturday was this?
BELEN646 3 years ago
Fucking idiots standing on the side there. Exactly how the stupid get weeded out of the population. Then people call me cruel when I say they deserve it after the accident happens. (which it has a few times lately)
GTS4tw 3 years ago
ALMS FTW!!!!!!!!!!
MikaOwns 3 years ago
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....Yeah...rather see a Z06 smoke both of 'em. :D
enzoz4 3 years ago
Thy olde story: city boy's small office ridden testicles covered up by the big, screaming loud, fast, red german automobile. Just imagine how small the stick is to come up with pathetic show like that. They couldn't even afford to shut down a real street, just 11th avenue, driving their cars over a bridge out of sight. Get real drivers with real nuts, the cars appear to have potential.
phd007 3 years ago
LMFAO! GT3FTMFW! Even without Traction.
The Cayman guy blows. Even a baby can do donuts with an open diff! Shame really. =(
JB
JayBrizzle 3 years ago
The Cayman is designed for turning fast lap times on a road course, not doing donuts. Mid engined cars with super sticky tires, driven by people who don't own them aren't ideal cars for spinning tires in circles. What is impressive is that a street car that doesn't look like much crossed the finish line just 2 feet behind a stripped Cup car on slicks.
NewYorkMotorClub 3 years ago
Someone should grab the Cayman guy, and teach him how to do donuts.
zirconia7 3 years ago
Crapola drivers. I can change gears faster on my 10 speed.
mauri310 3 years ago
this is the frist or second day at the new york auto show at the javits
REGGIEEVERREADY 3 years ago
It was Saturday. The first official day of the show. Friday was a public "sneak preview".
yamwho74 3 years ago
The one in the Cayman sucks at doing donuts.
1STNA 3 years ago
Awesome. Makes me wish I lived in New York.
phoenixm4 3 years ago
thats cool
htelge 3 years ago
Great jacket, where did you get it?
simplybebop 3 years ago
Nice!
JXintheZ 3 years ago
That is sick. Great show.
HJW018 3 years ago
What a weird noise from the inside!
f3xpgm 3 years ago
That high pitched squealing is the noise of the gears needed for racing.
tmccman 3 years ago
It hurt my ears
gloryface 3 years ago
Holly soild undies batman!!!!
mannyzx 3 years ago
Was it legal??
gloryface 3 years ago
yes why else would the police shut down the road.
robm425 3 years ago
Good point!
gloryface 3 years ago
WOW
Best Vid ever!!!
YOu`re the best, guys!!
HummerStunner 3 years ago
Cayman GTR owns all.
golfguy11800 3 years ago
holy shit! just when i thought the show was getting dull, you guys pull this out. awesome.
kneelio321 3 years ago
it is pretty cool they got the NYPD to close down 11th ave for this.
theyourk 3 years ago
This is insane! I love it but I was scared for the people standing on the sidelines. I don't know how they got permission to do that! But man it's cool.
sysmg 3 years ago
we did indeed.
NewYorkMotorClub 3 years ago