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  • 43 whores and prostitutes disliked this video!

  • Us Pentecostal women are modest like this. Thumbs up for all my Apostolic pentecostal women:)

  • i personaly don't like these fashions but i know that Christian women can dress modestly and be Christian and still be fashionable thank God i'm a boy I could pretty much dress any how and still cut the mark

  • THESE WOMEN LOOKED BEAUTIFUL! NOT LIKE THESE AMERICAN FASHIONS FOR WOMEN WHO LOOK LIKE PROSTITUTES ALL THE TIME AND LOOK LIKE THERE ALWAYS SELLING! IT'S JUST DEGRADING TO THE WOMEN TO LOOK LIKE A PROSTITUTE BECAUSE IF SHE DOES NOT RESPECT HERSELF NOBODY ELSE WILL EITHER! THAT'S WHY MEN ONLY HAVE SEX WITH THEM AND LEAVE THEM BECAUSE THEY DRESS LIKE THAT'S THE ONLY THING THERE GOOD FOR! AND MEN DO NOT WANT TO MARRY PROSTITUTES THEY WANT TO MARRY A WOMAN WHO WILL BE THE MOTHER OF THERE CHILDREN!

  • @xavierz71 yep well said brah, but will u admit that Muslims got it right in that area. Cmon don't be hypocritical, though they go over board at times but they got the whole dress modest thing right. As a man i think Christian women can still dress sassy and beautiful and fashionable and still be modest.

  • Love it.

  • This is actually an Eastern Orthodox fashion show. I think some of these are nice :) I don't think they're 'extreme'..

  • @MarysLittleFlower The lady who was wearing the jean dress was actually pretty (the dress) but I didn't like the rest

  • i like.

  • This is a Pentecostal fashion show put together with...is that Muslim music?

  • @sweet161402 no its Eastern music

  • I see most christian women the opposite of modesty. this is a joke.

  • I don't like how almost outfit includes head scarves. Can we say oppressive male society?

  • Why are there no modest pants shown? A woman can't always wear skirts or dresses. Horseback riding, lab work, outdoor work, and exercising all necessitate pants.

  • @OstaraWolf No they dont.

  • @nagaempress They definitely do.. You can't horse ride in a skirt! Unless we go back to side-saddle (no thanks). I am a christian and I always dress modestly doesn't mean I have to dress like my grandmother!!

  • I like how this idea of modesty is free from forcing or ruling out scarves on womens´ heads.

  • Love your video!

  • Thats an Arabic song!!!!!!!!!!

  • They look lovely! I wish there was more of this for inspiration. It's taking me years to make my wardrobe more modest.

  • If anyone believes this to be extreme, something is seriously wrong. There are VERY implicit guidelines for the dress of a woman who follows Christ. If you have a problem with this, you don't follow Christ. Lean not unto your own understanding, and follow the book if you are to be saved.

  • (1 Peter 3:3). (1 Peter 3:4-6), (1 Timothy 2:9), (Deuteronomy 22:5), (Leviticus 6:10), (Ezekiel 44:16-18), and (Exodus 28:40-42), (Isaiah 3:16-23), (1 Timothy 2:9), (Jeremiah 4:30), (1Corinthians 11:5-6, 15)

    Hope these are a blessing to someone. I don't respond to insults or foul language, so don't bother wasting your time.

  • Now they realised they need to be respectable like the Muslim women do , but now i want to let them know that they need to wash same as the Muslim do , don't just wipe with paper its disgusting ,be hygienic ...

  • the clothes are beautiful.......

  • @missyouhoo hi hope u r ok hope this is helpfull PLEASE READ THE HOLY BIBLE  1ST Corinthians 11- 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. 6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.

    ALL CHRISTIANS SHOULD READ WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS AND FOLLOW THE TEXT

  • @19bbm All the books ask for modesty and a sign of modesty is covering your hair which is considered an adornment. The orthdox jews do this & muslims christians are the only ones who do not follow this rule. In addition if all christians read the bible and follow the text we would still be spitting on wounds since that heals them. In addition to "No child of an incestuous union may be admitted into the community of the Lord, nor any descendent of his even to the tenth generation. Deut 23:3

  • @missyouhoo That would make it so hard to proselytize in this day & age

  • @missyouhoo lol christians nuns cover their head ! muslim wear hijab ! Jews r the ones who crucified jesus according to the bible as u r a Jew it is always impossible to debate if the jews followed their tawrah they would not be in israel the messiah will take them Matthew 10 5These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel peace

  • @19bbm I'm not a hebrew or a jew or whatever the flavor of the day is actually I'm a non-religious person was raised Baptist....3hr+ every sunday services until scienticfic resaon came in 6th grade & tried the church again but read the bible where it nearly turned me into a atheist.

  • @missyouhoo open your heart and mind do not be Prejudice read THE HOLY QURAN and once finished judge for yourself which is the word of GOD there are many scientific proofs in The Quran on Human Embryonic Development:Quran, 23:12-14 look up Professor Emeritus Keith L. Moore In 1981, during the Seventh Medical Conference in saudi also Quran on Mountains Origin of the Universe on the Cerebrum on read yourself dont need to listen or follow any group Once you read the whole quran u judge

  • @19bbm Remeber what is in quran can be founf in torah and bible but God is one and one day we will all stand before him but until then lets just live.

  • No offense but this makes me glad I am a heathen.

  • These clothes allow a woman to still appear feminine but it accentuates inner and outer beauty. I love it.

  • These styles honor God in that they keep men from lusting after the wrong things. It is the lust of the body that is fleeting. A modest woman is extremely attractive to a man who wants a long term relationship (marriage) with a quality woman.

    I pray that more women of God consider styles like this one. It also makes intimacy better in that the body is truly only revealed to the spouse. That makes it spiritual, mental, and sensual.

  • @Beamovement True!

  • There are a lot of stupid people on these social networking sites. I don't like the styles, but I do like the fact that they wish to cover up. I believe the women with the lowest self esteems feel the need to be half naked all the time. I've also found since I've been covering up, men have this weird need to "unwrap me." (Fyi I don't label myself as anything when it comes to religion.) I wear headwraps not only because of my faith, but my ancestory. But to each his/her own.

  • I still see boobs sticking out - clearly, they need to wear clothes over their clothes!

  • Most religious views and strict rulesets seem ridiculous to me. But... i can appreciate that these women are at least practicing what they preach.

    That said... hot ladies out there please dress up so I can see more than just your ankles... k thanks.

  • I don't like head coverings either. Why does my freedom need to be restricted like that? Besides, long hair isn't always 'sexy' to a guy, osmetimes it shows personality and makes the guy more interested in who you are rather than being tempted sexually.

  • I'm sorry but you just can't expect me to dress like that!! seriously what if it's stinking hot outside, am I expected to roast like a chook??

  • Too many head coverings.

  • Their showing too much leg.

  • You can't win. We will defeat you because we value life and you do not. You will run out of zealots before we run out patriots willing to stand against you. My son is taught to shoot and taught that freedom is more important than any religion. You can't destroy hope and faith with your lies about Muhammad. We will win.

  • the outfits made them look fat lol!

  • @jennabug121 you think they look fat? I thought they were very lovely...classy :)

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  • @63theophilus .....they look like they're wearing sacks!

  • @jennabug121 really pretty sacks then!

  • @63theophilus for potatoes I guess

  • Just goes to show that everything is relative. I'd be told to leave if I showed up at my congregation in almost every one of these outlandishly worldy and sensual outfits!

  • Where can you purchase these clothes?? Would love to know :) Thank you!

  • Christian Arabic music?

  • Men are not supposed to cover their hair when praying: to do so is an offense to the LORD God. 1 Corinthians 11:1-9.

  • I'm a Christian, saved by the Grace of God, I live to please Him everyday as much as I can, but this is not gonna happen, these outfits are outrageous. Don't take your culture and say it's Christian. There is a difference please.

  • @2010muah ... but you are supposed to dress modestly and cover your hair,no matter which culture you belong to,especially when you pray,even men are supposed to cover their hair when they pray.Remember even b4 there was culture there was Yahweh and his commandments. Modesty is beauty.

  • @DarriusisGr8 Yahweh and is commands? Sorry, but cultures were there long before Yahweh gave any commandments beside chopping off half of someone's penis.

  • @Slove.. No problem slo intz wend , Yahwehs commandments r eternal, and by the way we dont chop our penis,we circumcise our foreskin,if u dont know what is foreskin and what is penis then go back to school. It is apparent that in ur place ur penis is the size of our foreskin.

  • @DarriusisGr8 We'll I still do not agree with you. I do not necessarily have to dress in those kind of outfits to be MODEST. Being Modest has a lot to do with the environment in which you live and maybe thats been modest where you are but please do not force you own beliefs or convictions on others. If the Holy Spirit doesn't convict me, then you are in no place to.

  • @201. U are right,modesty is not just about covering urself up like a tent.it is also behaving in a certain dignified n mannerly way.If you just go by the environment u live in, then there is no need for a biblical definition for morality n modesty,becoz what is moral in my place may not be moral in urs.Ultimately morality is decided by the creator...And all i said was dress modestly,not dress like the girls in this video. pray4 the real holy spirit 2 guide u(holy spirit(sophia) is a she).

  • @2010muah Do you feel condemned by watching this video? I don't think the message was one of condemnation, or any implication that You had to dress this way. But, what if you found out that your clothing was not pleasing to the Lord...would you be willing to dress more modestly for Him? When you say "this is not gonna happen," what do you really mean?

  • And the music here is ............ what, exactly? Sounds vaguely Middle Eastern. Just sayin'.

  • @trayra1 The music is actually Egyptian. But while we are at it maybe its to single out the close similarities between some Fundamentalist "Christians" and the Muslim extremists i.e The Taliban.

  • Yes, also an oppressive system. No disagreement from me there. I have friends trapped in such a system right now. Horrible. They don't dress like this, but they do dress ...... oddly.

  • @NativeNewYorkGuy ...uh, you mean the "Christian" terroroists, suicide bombers or airline hijackers? Where do these people exist? I guess I have missed those news stories.....

  • There is a video titled, "Ladies, What Do Your Clothes Say About You? (Modesty Part I)" that you can check out that answers alot of issues addressing Christian attire.

  • Modesty is not a particular fashion. It's a lifestyle. It includes behavior, character and clothes. Although, this video looks more like muslim fashion to me.

  • @2DelaineBlackstone the Indian sounding music doesn't help, but with few changes i might wear some of these

  • @2DelaineBlackstone Actually (I'm not any faith but have read many books including the bible cover 2 cover) all women were asked to be modest and cover their heads especially in places of worhship.

  • @missyouhoo Hi. The point I was making is that you don't have to adopt a "muslim" style to accomplish this. Amish ladies don't look muslim. I am not knocking it, just saying you don't have to look like a Muslim no more than you have to look like a Puritan with buckles on your shoes. Women should be modest and not be a hypocrite with it. Don't cover from head to toe to go to the mall, then show it all at the beach. Modesty is a beautiful thing.

  • @missyouhoo Where does it say that? I have read it too and the only mention of head covering I can think of is 1 Cor. 11:5 where it says a woman ought to have her head covered when she prays or prophesies. It does not say when she is in a place of worship. It is not the place, but the activity. Also, not all women are asked to be modest, only Christian women (those who pray or prophesy in the name of Christ)

  • @2DelaineBlackstone Why do you say that? Because of the head coverings? Women in most cultures of the world have always covered their heads. Women only stopped wearing head coverings in this country less than 100 years ago. Most properly dressed women still wore hats until the 40's.

  • @63theophilus my point is that in modern times how many Christian women do you know that wear a head covering?

  • @jennabug121 I showed my mom this video and she was like, "are you kidding me they look like poor girls!" lol

  • @63theophilus There is nothing wrong with them. Women in this country, or shall I say this culture wore scarves and hats. Not as much fabric, though. I don't have to adopt a muslim look just for the sake of covering my head. I like hats myself. You may like scarves, Fine. I don't personally know any christian woman that reflects this image. But you can post a pic if you have one. Mother Theresa maybe?

  • @2DelaineBlackstone go to any church and look at the nuns. Why do you think they cover their hair?

  • @qualityrkc And why are you asking me this? Please look at all of my postings and we'll try it again from there.

  • I am Christian and I don't wear anything near this! In the summer I wear shorts and a tanktop! This is crazy modesty! If God made us beautiful what is so wrong about showing you hair and your arms and your legs!? Weren't Adam and Eve naked lol!?

  • I love the headscarves! Wonder what size and shape they are worn under the chin like that? I have just started wearing headcoverings about a month ago. Beautiful, modest clothes!!!! Love it!

  • These look exactly like women in Soviet propaganda paintings.

  • I been dressing like this for yrs and so have the other females in my family and they are actting like this is all new. WHAT EVER

  • i grew up n the pentecostal religion and YES i believe that christian women should b modest and represent christ BUT i dont follow the churches laws, rules. i follow God's convictions. everyone has their own personal convictions and it's very personal between u and God.

  • This is just so degrading to women, it made me sick to my stomach.

  • I didn't see anything very modest here; and certainly not extreme. I saw very naturally feminine women dressing very stylishly.  It reminds me of the normal fashion of the 1970's USA. I would feel absolutely beautiful and very comfortable wearing any of these styles. Love the music, btw.

  • what kind of music is that? lol

  • I don't understand why these clothes show the bodyfigure well. The other thing is why they show the calves because it could be attractive too. Why there is arabic music for the Christian Women.

  • @Bila23AMD You are an oppressive jerk!!! If the calves were covered you would complain about the ankles!!!

  • @1994wblake Thanks for the nice, new words.

  • @1994wblake Hello, please take a look Amidat's comment from 9 months ago. It comes directly from the Bible! You would be really appreciated!

  • Absolute crap. Why is it that only women "should" dress modestly?

  • @AnimalGuardian71 women are not the only ones called to dress modestly. The Bible gives different guidelines for men than women.

  • @MsJoryNagrodski - Ahh, ok :)

  • @AnimalGuardian71 Could you give me some samples from the Bible?

  • @Bila23AMD - ??Samples of what exactly from the Bible?? #1- you must be responding to somebody else perhaps? #2- I'm an atheist and have NEVER even read the Bible. I was only wondering why it seems these hideous outfits were for women only, and why wouldn't a man be "required" to be so modest as well.

  • @AnimalGuardian71 I'm a Christian and I find these outfits ugly and extreme!

  • @jennabug121 - LOL, you have a good head on your shoulder :)

  • @AnimalGuardian71 well thankyou!

  • @jennabug121 I agree!

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  • @jennabug121 do they show too little skin to please you?

  • @63theophilus no, I am ok with girls dressing modestly. But this is just going too far in my opinion, why are they covering their hair? Also I found the outfits very unflattering.

  • @jennabug121 Not all of them are covering their hair, and the ones that are are doing it in various different styles, with varrying amounts of hair exposed. Are you implying some type of legalism in their head coverings? Maybe they are doing it for style. They remind me of the lovely actress Grace Kelly who was a scarf fashion trend setter in the 50's.

  • @63theophilus What criteria do you use to determine flattering styles? Are you aiming for "sexy" as the rest of modern America seems to be doing? As Christians, shouldn't our clothing represent purity?

  • @63theophilus Way too many of the "Christian women I know confuse "pretty" with "sexy" and think they have to have form-fitting, skimpy clothing that reveals thighs and cleavage. The reasons for this are to draw men's attention to their bodies. This does not demonstrate a modest spirit which is that is pleasing to the Lord. Clothing usually choices usually show what is in the heart. :)

  • @63theophilus yea but why can't they be stylish at the same time? I don't know one Christian that dresses like that and I went to a baptist school for nine years and am a practicing Catholic. It is a very low minority of Christian women that dress like that.

  • @jennabug121 bc most chistian women arent real christians

  • @jennabug121 bc most chistian women arent real christians

  • @63theophilus Oh my gosh sew me for stating an opinion on a public website! It's my opinion that they look bad and it is my opinion that they're really extreme in the way they dress.

  • @jennabug121

    That is because you only have the Title and not the Spirit! There is a big difference and I pray to YHWH you find it some day!

  • @2smokey4u *Laughs* ok 2smokey4u, way to preach to me about having Christian spirit when you're the one judging me *Laughs again*. Sorry I have an opinion everyone :) Hey, has it ever occured to you that I actually find these clothes ugly and that I have a right to voice my opinion? :D God bless you and may you have a great day!

  • @jennabug121 You might not like the style but you have to see the intension to be modest. As jesus said we have to be modest so that is the reason if you are looking for something else you r in a wrong page. God bless you

  • @4everpraisethelord I have no problem with modesty as said in other comments, I just really dont like these clothes and i think that people can still dress modestly and look fashionable and beautiful. My personal beliefs is that our bodies are beautiful. I wear what's practical (like shorts in the summer) not because I'm not modest but because I dont think I'm doing anything wrong by wearing shorts or a bakini or showing my arms, that's how I was raised. I'm a proud Christian

  • @AnimalGuardian71 I'm not atheist, but I totally agree! I hate these dresses and skirts!

  • @LovedWife1 - You too have good taste then, LOL. I don't "get" the connection between dressing like a dork AND being "Christian"?? Am I missing something here? What does a Christian dress like? If God created us in his image, then why are women supposed to cover up? Why would showing my long & shiny hair be something that's considered vain? A beautiful head of hair can be a woman's crowning glory, I guess I don't see the problem in that.

  • @AnimalGuardian71 This style has nothing to do with being Christian. This is someone's humanly-religious interpretation of modesty - taken too far for my taste. Men do respect women who dress appropriately, because it means they are not easy. But, the Bible never says that women should make themselves look ugly under a misguided misinterpretation of clothing!

  • @AnimalGuardian71 Do you think that "made in his image" means physical appearance? Why should women cover up: Because Titus 2:4 says that Christian women are to be descrete and chaste. Discretion and chastity show in a woman's clothing. If she dresses in skimpy clothes, she does not look discrete and chaste.

  • @63theophilus - I can appreciate that. However, that's only meaningful if one believes in God and the Bible. Being demure or chaste is acquired from actions, beliefs and morals, not clothing.

  • @AnimalGuardian71 You're right about chastity coming from beliefs and morals. If a woman dresses in a way that tells men "I want you to find me sexually alluring" then she shows her heart is not pure...

  • no comment :|

  • Great Amr Diab music!!!

  • Love it, specially the headcovering...!

    I am all for it as a Christian women.

    Thanks!

  • Yeah, I don't feel I have to dress modestly. I'll dress how I want and if you don't like it, don't look. Simple as that.

  • @jrod1195 that sounds priggish!

  • @IstillneedJesus89 Well, it isn't. Just the way I feel.

  • most of them kinda look like they just got out of a convent and dont know how else to dress... you can be modest without going to this extreme

  • weary grandmaish looks

  • Until the 1960s, Catholic women were required to cover their hair in church.

  • Classy looks, but what's with all the head coverings?? Seems a bit like ISLAM that way....

  • @FrankCastle1958 Christianity also obliges women to cover their heads. But most of the western world doesen't know that, especially not after French republican revolutionaries spanked a few of the altar boys.

  • Very nice. I wish more modern women would dress like this. I love how all the "feminist" types get all defensive over something like this, maybe they feel guilty. Nobody is forcing you to dress this way, so why flame on those who wish to be modest? Ask yourself, why do you feel the need to have your T&A hanging out all the time? Is this really about freedom? Or maybe just a cheap way to get attention?

  • Stylish looks! I love this

  • beautiful modesty clothes.

  • I happen to think this clothing line is very nice and modest. Despite what others are saying, I appreciate the fact that there aren't hip hugging jeans or shirts that are unnecessarily tight or showing cleavage. Thank you!

  • Well, as a young Christian woman, I did not picture any of these clothes on myself nor do I think going completely against the grain of fashion (let's be honest) equates to modesty. Wearing skinny jeans is not synonymous with impurity, this is a surefire way to alienate young girls because all I saw was, not many looks, but one.

  • @saffylew Agreed!

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  • @SloveintzWend Well I do and a lot of Christians do, God is not displeased that people want to stay warm!

  • @saffylew How could you possibly know what God is displeased off? Unless you stick to the bible, or you may have a "personal" god shaped according to your imagination and wishes, but that just as well means you have an imaginary friend.

    Are you familiar with the case of Joan of Arc? In that perfect religious society they couldn't find no heresy on her, yet she was condemned of cross-dressing(form of witchcraft). She was wearing man's clothes - trousers. For that she burned.

  • @SloveintzWend I'll disregard the childish comments about imaginary friend beings. I assume you are older than myself so I am disappointed that you came out with such drivel.

    Secondly I am familiar with Joan of Arc but she does not feature in the BIBLE the book that consult for guidance not society's interpretation of it. 1Samuel 16:7 Man looks at the outward appearance but God looks at the heart. Dress code is so subjective, getting concerned with trivia evolves in2 YOUR judgment, only God can.

  • @saffylew Childish? Disappointed? Why? Are you offended? Isn't religion as a whole childish? First you have to get on the same level.

    No, she doesen't feature in the Bible, but she was condemned according to the Biblical guidance. It's not just guidance it's obligation.

    Cultures change, religions cannot.

    My judgment? The only thing I judge is the believe in subjectivity.

  • @SloveintzWend

    Pants were worn by women from the beginning, just not in western Europe.

  • @quemacha So they were worn in Eastern Europe? Still this obligation/prohibition was for the women of Levant and latter Hellenic world primarily.

  • She's showing ankle! BURN HER!!!

  • THIS IS CREEPY.

    

  • I love how every one of them includes a skirt. lol

  • what's up with the arabic song?

  • I like some of the cloths

  • some men have foot fetishes, should women not wear open shoes? some may be attracted to womens ankles, some may be attracted to womens faces & eyes...the list goes on. y r we covering ourselves up because some1 finds a part of us sexually appealing? what if men find the fact that we are covered up sexually appealing!

    sexuality is natural. y r people classing it as "impure" (only when it concerns male sexual desire, of course, coz for some reason women's isnt important).

  • who says whats modest & what isnt? some may argue these women are all dressed immodestly for showing their ankles - where is the line? & y r women always targeted when it comes to dressing "modestly", but not men? male sexual desire is always the influence, but for some reason its used against women rather than telling men that they should change the way they behave. what about my "impure" thoughts about a guy wearing above the knee shorts? y is that not an issue?

  • ana behab amr diab!!!

  • 1:16--DAWG!! 1:46--DAWG!! 2:02--I would change the fabric of that top, and make it a bit looser--but still: YES!

    2:16 LOOKS beautiful, but look how she presents herself--I wouldn't approach.

  • The look on the far right at 0:21 is FLY!!!  Far left is pretty, too. 0:32 is smooth (all three of them). I would have knocked somebody over to get to the woman at 0:44, if she at ALL acted as beautifully as she looks/dresses! 1:11 has my respect, to be sure! Let me be clear though: it's not alluring, in any way.

  • I'm atheist and kinda wish people dressed like this.

  • the sound is nice !

    

  • It is good to see more Christians dressing properly. Many modern Christians/Westerners dress almost like prostitutes.

  • I like it! Not into the head coverings...as Jesus is my covering...but I do like the modesty. This from someone who now, can't believe the bikini's and the short skirts I used to wear. And who has seen what amounts to a pseudo 'Victoria's Secret models' as role models (cleavage/butt cheeks) taken up by the young girls in the Florida town I live in....poor young boys...no wonder they can't concentrate in class.. they are male..and they would have to wear blinders not to have an erection.

  • lmfao! amr diab.

  • I appreciate the thought and meaning. But kind of defeats the purpose if we dress modestly but don't have a modest attitude. We should STILL not be trying to compete with each other or spend money if we don't NEED more clothes. Best to be neat and dress nicely and with modest clothes but not to be the best dressed modest or not :-)

  • If a woman is a Christian, she should know a woman can be dressed to kill some man's obedience to God. See the video called "What Women Want is Worship".

  • approve! Nice modern modest women apparel

  • Sexy Baaby!!! Groovy!

  • yeah girl show them ankles

  • i don't understand why it is so important for christian women to be modest? what about christian men? why is there no focus on their need for modesty? please, someone explain to me why this is?

  • @8Splendiferous8: Beause these stupid women agree with the outdated doctrine of a bronze age macho culture that was not aware of women being sexual beings who get horny just like men and enjoy oogling at handsome men (and their butts and crotch area). XD

    This is particularly ridiculous since everyone will drool over her huge knockers. As of men would mainly be attracted to nice hair..

  • @Trampadoo i dunno. i figured it was more because men didn't like to take responsibility for their actions, and felt that it was the woman's fault hen they felt lust. as if it's a stupid man's fault if you feel pride in that you're smart.

  • @8Splendiferous8: Sure it was stupid men not wanting to take responsibility for their actions and blaming women. That is why I find it desturbing when women today resurrect this symbol for a tradition of oppression.