Truly amazing - this Shermer turd states his premise that the more educated and intelligent a person is, the less likely they are to believe in God; Jackson points out that Einstein, Pascal, and Newton all believed in God - and the next thing you know Shermer's acting like that's beside the point...'it doesn't matter how many smart people believe it.' Really?. Pretty sure that was supposed to be your point, dumbass.
I'm a woman. I've never believed in a god. I didn't have parents that forced any religion on me. We stopped going to church when I was seven years old because the churches were segregated by "race." I was very happy to not go to church. I never liked it. I would like to have faith in a higher power, by I can't force what I don't have. I'm faithless. I do believe that people can be psychic.
Victoria, Please read a book other than the Bible. You'll really be amazed at the knowlege that's out there. Religion is on pretty shakey ground these days and continues to stretch the bounds of credibility. Good luck.
@scoves9484 And I happen to listen to him because I agree with most of what he's saying. not because he said it, but because I already shared his beliefs.
@scoves9484 Just because most americans don't agree with him doesn't mean he was wrong, his statement was unpopular but he was saying that demonizing terrorists and painting a black/white picture of us v/s them is just as bad. Also, in some cases, the people need to be dragged along regardless of what they believe they need, and as for the constitution, well, it once contained the right to own slaves, you can't consider it a perfect flawless document.
@scoves9484 He did not "praise" the hijackers or call them heroes, you need to look at what he actually said, the exact quote is "“We have been the cowards, lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That’s cowardly. Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it’s not cowardly.”
And he has at numerous points on his show condemned terrorism and terrorists.
@scoves9484 Do you know a different Bill Maher than the one featured in this video? Because the one I know has always condemned the 9/11 attacks and he personally threw 9/11 "truthers" out of his show. And as for 'self-hating", he seems to be pretty happy to me.
Don't have 2 b Scholar 2 win this debate as is evidenced by the defeat of so-called scholar MS & his arrogant friends
Neville sat it out, while VJ only honest person among those who did participate, defeated her opposition's blather w simple truth as she saw it.
I saw this show when it aired & part left out was where BM accused Christians of arrogance @ which VJ pointed out he was arrogant, a fact he couldn't deny. Talk about deer in headlights. He was speechless & had 2 laugh @ own hypocrisy.
@cugamer Thank goodness you said that last line. As a tree sloth, I was feeling very slighted. I love how Julia Sweeney can't hold back the laughter after Jackson made that comment about bible college.
The truth is that there is not enough evidence for evolution...Scientists have been searching for the missing link to try and end the debate...remember piltdown man found in the early 1900's. The hoax went on for nearly 50 years or so...The little secret is that even in the universities scientists clash on evolution as gene sequences don't jump species......not in a thousand, million, or billion years!.....Also Victoria Jackson is very smart.....and a Christian....the rest is an act!
@fullblastman Not enough evidence for evolution? Missing link? We have fossils for hundreds of intermediate species that eventually lead to us. There's a reason why every member of every respectable scientific organization knows evolution to be a provable theory, and that every time creationism or ID has been brought up as possible theory to teach to our students it has been stuck down. Science is truth, and science points to evolution. Take it from someone who could very well be a biology major
@Kaimosae Einstein was a Deist. He affirmed his belief in "Spinoza's God" and said that "God does not play dice" -- which is very different from believing in an omnipotent desert psychopath.
So that's where that came from. But yeah, it has no argumentative value.
Atheists are kinda morons too. Let's not just bash all Abrahamic religions. Atheists believe they know what happens when you die, when really, know one knows. I think atheists should back their beliefs up.
@earwaxhalo Most atheists won't say we "know" there is no god just that there simply isn't any evidence to suggest that there is one. Since the religious aren't just claiming that there is a god but they are also claiming that they have devine permission to tell me what to do it is the believer that had better produce some damn good evidence to back up such an outragious claim.
@SockbatReplica, bullshit. Atheists will say that because there is no scientific evidence, then there mustn't be a god. Religious people say there's a god due to blind faith. Atheists belittle other people. They say that since you believe in a god, you must be dumb or suffering from a mental disorder. Both sides are fucking douche bags.
@earwaxhalo Yes because agnosticism is too evasive. Even though we cannot prove that there is no god if you honestly don't believe there is then you should atleast have the guts to tell someone you are an atheist. Would you rather we just condesend to believers instead? As if that were any less disrespecful.
@2112murphy "I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know his thoughts. The rest are details." (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, 2000 p.202)
@2112murphy Uh, yes he did. And I'm so sick of angry atheists. lol Not really. Actually, Einstein was no atheist. He was no Christian either. He did suspect that there was a higher intellegence responsible for the creation of the universe. Just not the church version of a creator. Do your homework. I did.
Man, Victoria Jackson really looks like (and probably is) a moron. Shermer and Sweeney keep making good points backed up by evidence, and this idiot just whines, whines, whines.
"The bible was written over 1600 years by 40 different authors and still has the same message, it must be a miracle!"
Yes, in the same way 40 people in the same office building xeroxing the same document over the course of 1600 hours and the document still staying the same constitutes a miracle.
@TaNgLeD2121 I saw a little further in this clip or the second one, and while I still respect her to a degree, and I dont think shes dumb, I take back the level of praise i gave her before
She thinks Jesus is a great philosopher
Putting aside that hes possibly not real, none of the bible is written by him, its all second and third hand accounts, wannabes and all writing about what his beliefs supposedly were, and then assuming its all really his beliefs, they arent even among the better ones
@waltermh111 i respect your view, but mine is that we have proven evolution and abeogenises too be true, we can prove the big bang occurred and that everything including life came about through random chance................... that being said,....i have yet to find a theory that proves where the elements came from, or what put time in motion,...... i think its wrong to say "god did it just because we dont know though.... we once thought the earth was flat....
victoria jackson does not belong in this debate. i can not respect your opinion if you defend every point by stating "god said..." or quoting some random verse from the bible. i don't believe in the bible, why would you think using it as a source is going to change my mind?? you may as well say "the tooth fairy said..."
Julia Sweeney especially, can be heard laughing often at the nutty Ms Jackson.
I know how Sweeney feels cause if I were there, I would be laughing too, though I am still grinning now, because the poor Ms Jackson seems so out of touch with reality, but trying so hard to feel sane, lol
It ends up Shermer has accomplished a lot in the way of ... bicycle equipment. Eat your heart out Isaac Newton!
madmaxkarma 9 hours ago
Truly amazing - this Shermer turd states his premise that the more educated and intelligent a person is, the less likely they are to believe in God; Jackson points out that Einstein, Pascal, and Newton all believed in God - and the next thing you know Shermer's acting like that's beside the point...'it doesn't matter how many smart people believe it.' Really?. Pretty sure that was supposed to be your point, dumbass.
madmaxkarma 10 hours ago
pussies lol
jct09100 3 months ago
there was a problem with my post... hahahaaaa i know media is controlled.. i guess you tube is just another puppet.. cowards!
jct09100 3 months ago
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Dam this broad is so dumb. They don't even take her serious.
theocdogking 3 months ago
FUCK ME that stupid lady with that voice and the shit that comes out of her mind... i want to kill myself after listening to that bitch
MrLuiS3rd 4 months ago
I'm a woman. I've never believed in a god. I didn't have parents that forced any religion on me. We stopped going to church when I was seven years old because the churches were segregated by "race." I was very happy to not go to church. I never liked it. I would like to have faith in a higher power, by I can't force what I don't have. I'm faithless. I do believe that people can be psychic.
elizabethfaraone 4 months ago
Victoria, Please read a book other than the Bible. You'll really be amazed at the knowlege that's out there. Religion is on pretty shakey ground these days and continues to stretch the bounds of credibility. Good luck.
beanie928 5 months ago
@scoves9484 And I happen to listen to him because I agree with most of what he's saying. not because he said it, but because I already shared his beliefs.
Jezsar12 8 months ago
@scoves9484 Just because most americans don't agree with him doesn't mean he was wrong, his statement was unpopular but he was saying that demonizing terrorists and painting a black/white picture of us v/s them is just as bad. Also, in some cases, the people need to be dragged along regardless of what they believe they need, and as for the constitution, well, it once contained the right to own slaves, you can't consider it a perfect flawless document.
Jezsar12 8 months ago
@scoves9484 He did not "praise" the hijackers or call them heroes, you need to look at what he actually said, the exact quote is "“We have been the cowards, lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That’s cowardly. Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it’s not cowardly.”
And he has at numerous points on his show condemned terrorism and terrorists.
Jezsar12 8 months ago
@scoves9484 Do you know a different Bill Maher than the one featured in this video? Because the one I know has always condemned the 9/11 attacks and he personally threw 9/11 "truthers" out of his show. And as for 'self-hating", he seems to be pretty happy to me.
Jezsar12 8 months ago
I love Julia Sweeney. I had such a crush on her in the 90's. Smart too..
soopahsoopah 8 months ago
So Victoria Jackson was always pretty stupid.
MaryJesusJoseph 8 months ago
I wish that I was older when this show was on. I was 16 and thought this show was just some boring political show. It is pretty entertaining.
Chaoitcme 10 months ago 2
"All the guys in the Bible are men." God, Vicky really was born with half a brain.
ATrivialGirl 11 months ago
Is the big black guy, is he the bouncer? Like "Steve" from Jerry Springer?
alueshen 11 months ago
@alueshen It's Aaron Neville he is a famous singer. His duet with Linda Rondstadt "Don't know much" is pretty famous
coolerthanyou1992 11 months ago
@coolerthanyou1992 I was being funny, but thx :p
alueshen 11 months ago
Stupid piggy slut.
jabajabajaba12345678 1 year ago
Don't have 2 b Scholar 2 win this debate as is evidenced by the defeat of so-called scholar MS & his arrogant friends
Neville sat it out, while VJ only honest person among those who did participate, defeated her opposition's blather w simple truth as she saw it.
I saw this show when it aired & part left out was where BM accused Christians of arrogance @ which VJ pointed out he was arrogant, a fact he couldn't deny. Talk about deer in headlights. He was speechless & had 2 laugh @ own hypocrisy.
BuskrChuk 1 year ago
Aron Neville is not amused
friendlycakeasaurus 1 year ago 2
yikes what is that sound coming out of that ladys mouth
cdphatty 1 year ago
Julia Sweeney is soo turned on by Shermer ,,i Think she wet herself..
ai1888 1 year ago
Putting Victoria Jackson in a debate with Michael Shermer is like putting a brain damaged tree sloth in a debate with Michael Shermer.
Apologies to any tree sloths who may be reading.
cugamer 1 year ago 11
@cugamer lmao
StewNWT 11 months ago
@cugamer Thank goodness you said that last line. As a tree sloth, I was feeling very slighted. I love how Julia Sweeney can't hold back the laughter after Jackson made that comment about bible college.
max86max 2 weeks ago
the blonde girl with the long hair is painfully stupid
louiscfc93 1 year ago
That black guy sure has a lot to say ...
theFriendlyHughes 1 year ago
I never would have guessed that Jackson was going to turn out so strange. I loved that mid 90s class of SNL
MEpianist 1 year ago
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fucking authors how do they work
fucking miracles
FTWINZOR 1 year ago
That woman is trying to sound dumb, right? It's sounds like she's doing an act.. In this particular discussion maybe she should have dropped it.
NorkelFjols 1 year ago
VJ: "I don't think women believe more than men do. I think that's not true."
Since "I think" means "I believe" here, her statement is self-undermining.
ThomasJAckerman 1 year ago
Julia Sweney is so bright and well spoken, I just love her. However I did hate Pat.
1diesel1 1 year ago
Interesting but the blonde needs to gtfo!
stickywickedy 1 year ago
Wow what a dumbass blonde, who was that?
annata12 1 year ago
The truth is that there is not enough evidence for evolution...Scientists have been searching for the missing link to try and end the debate...remember piltdown man found in the early 1900's. The hoax went on for nearly 50 years or so...The little secret is that even in the universities scientists clash on evolution as gene sequences don't jump species......not in a thousand, million, or billion years!.....Also Victoria Jackson is very smart.....and a Christian....the rest is an act!
fullblastman 1 year ago
@fullblastman Not enough evidence for evolution? Missing link? We have fossils for hundreds of intermediate species that eventually lead to us. There's a reason why every member of every respectable scientific organization knows evolution to be a provable theory, and that every time creationism or ID has been brought up as possible theory to teach to our students it has been stuck down. Science is truth, and science points to evolution. Take it from someone who could very well be a biology major
Jonmad17 1 year ago
i never knew michael shermer was on this show! im so glad... hes awesome, one of my favorite people.
friendlycakeasaurus 1 year ago
I would give anything to see Scott Weiland make a fool of himself on politically incorrect.
fireplug111 1 year ago
Victoria Jackson is either:
1) Trolling
2) High on crack
3) Genuinely stupid
4) All of the above
nineinchtaint 1 year ago
"Excuse me. Well Einstein believed in god."
*looks around to find where the fuck that came from*
What kind of retort is that?
Kaimosae 1 year ago
@Kaimosae Einstein was a Deist. He affirmed his belief in "Spinoza's God" and said that "God does not play dice" -- which is very different from believing in an omnipotent desert psychopath.
So that's where that came from. But yeah, it has no argumentative value.
ThomasJAckerman 1 year ago
Wow. Is Victoria Jackson really an insipid, stupid, blithering idiot, or is that just a part of her act? I really can't tell.
jdh501 1 year ago 2
Victoria Jackson is proof that it is not good for mothers to drink during pregnancy.
deesway14 1 year ago 5
i love bill maher interviews now because it's serious and funny at the same time
FredrickUniversity 1 year ago
OMG Victoria Jackson is unspeakably stupid.
bwc3821 1 year ago 3
lol shes so dumb
and julia sweeney was nerd hot back in the day
VictorEchoNovember79 1 year ago
and jackson is stoooopid
dagrimmreepa 1 year ago
Yay to agnosticism!
dagrimmreepa 1 year ago
There may not be definitive proof of God for some people, but neither is there proof of no God.
I believe in a Higher Power. It helps me; enough said.
kenleemar 1 year ago
@kenleemar There's no proof that unicorns and leprechauns don't exist, do you believe in those as well?
brogin 1 year ago
Atheists are kinda morons too. Let's not just bash all Abrahamic religions. Atheists believe they know what happens when you die, when really, know one knows. I think atheists should back their beliefs up.
earwaxhalo 1 year ago
@earwaxhalo Most atheists won't say we "know" there is no god just that there simply isn't any evidence to suggest that there is one. Since the religious aren't just claiming that there is a god but they are also claiming that they have devine permission to tell me what to do it is the believer that had better produce some damn good evidence to back up such an outragious claim.
SockbatReplica 1 year ago 2
@SockbatReplica, bullshit. Atheists will say that because there is no scientific evidence, then there mustn't be a god. Religious people say there's a god due to blind faith. Atheists belittle other people. They say that since you believe in a god, you must be dumb or suffering from a mental disorder. Both sides are fucking douche bags.
earwaxhalo 1 year ago
@earwaxhalo Yes because agnosticism is too evasive. Even though we cannot prove that there is no god if you honestly don't believe there is then you should atleast have the guts to tell someone you are an atheist. Would you rather we just condesend to believers instead? As if that were any less disrespecful.
SockbatReplica 1 year ago
@2112murphy "I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know his thoughts. The rest are details." (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, 2000 p.202)
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@2112murphy Uh, yes he did. And I'm so sick of angry atheists. lol Not really. Actually, Einstein was no atheist. He was no Christian either. He did suspect that there was a higher intellegence responsible for the creation of the universe. Just not the church version of a creator. Do your homework. I did.
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
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Victoria is a stupid ass. I like her stuff on Saturday Night Live but she has no use in this debate whatsoever
xMetalxHeadxTravisx 1 year ago
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Victoria is a stupid ass. I like her stuff on Saturday Night Live but she has no use in this debate whatsoever
xMetalxHeadxTravisx 1 year ago
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Victoria is a stupid ass. I like her stuff on Saturday Night Live but she has no use in this debate whatsoever
xMetalxHeadxTravisx 1 year ago
Victoria is a stupid ass. I like her stuff on Saturday Night Live but she has no use in this debate whatsoever
xMetalxHeadxTravisx 1 year ago
i wish victoria would dumb down her arguments a little, they always go over my head.
jogeryjogo 1 year ago
Einstein did believe in an intelligent creator.
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
lol, great ending to this clip, poor shermer though, a little embarassing, unless he accomplished his goal, then 3 cheers for shermers youth :)
waltermh111 1 year ago
Man, Victoria Jackson really looks like (and probably is) a moron. Shermer and Sweeney keep making good points backed up by evidence, and this idiot just whines, whines, whines.
avooslwuthoqquan 1 year ago 24
Really good clip man, cheers.
ExtremeBogom 1 year ago
In this video clip, viewers have been given the distinct privilege of witnessing Victoria Jackson when both of her neurons are firing.
protectedparody 1 year ago 2
If you promise not to pray in a school, I will promise not to think in your church.
protectedparody 1 year ago 3
lol wtf
ExtremeBogom 1 year ago
Does becoming a Born Again Christian guarantee you getting laid?! I'd convert for that!
bonangusacdc 1 year ago
That way i would be glad being in church (:
Ryosuke1208 1 year ago
there goes another man rationalising his belief with logic, lol
waltermh111 1 year ago
"A family-hating communist endorsed by the Republicans."
That made my day.
IyotenX 1 year ago
"Bible College"
Now that's FUNNY! ^.^
Nostalgicvideos 1 year ago
OMG that lady is SO dumb!
4everkeim 1 year ago 6
"The bible was written over 1600 years by 40 different authors and still has the same message, it must be a miracle!"
Yes, in the same way 40 people in the same office building xeroxing the same document over the course of 1600 hours and the document still staying the same constitutes a miracle.
texjoy86 1 year ago
lol you have one intelligent person trying to explain things to 3 idiots,....... poor micheal shermer, 5 stars for shermer
TaNgLeD2121 1 year ago
@TaNgLeD2121
You mean 2, not only has Sweeney been a vocal and well versed atheist for i believe over a decade, shes not too shabby with her intelligence either.
waltermh111 1 year ago
@waltermh111 .....your right........ i guess lol but shermer is still miles ahead.....
lol but good point tho ")
TaNgLeD2121 1 year ago
@TaNgLeD2121 I saw a little further in this clip or the second one, and while I still respect her to a degree, and I dont think shes dumb, I take back the level of praise i gave her before
She thinks Jesus is a great philosopher
Putting aside that hes possibly not real, none of the bible is written by him, its all second and third hand accounts, wannabes and all writing about what his beliefs supposedly were, and then assuming its all really his beliefs, they arent even among the better ones
waltermh111 1 year ago
@waltermh111 i respect your view, but mine is that we have proven evolution and abeogenises too be true, we can prove the big bang occurred and that everything including life came about through random chance................... that being said,....i have yet to find a theory that proves where the elements came from, or what put time in motion,...... i think its wrong to say "god did it just because we dont know though.... we once thought the earth was flat....
TaNgLeD2121 1 year ago
Wow, Victoria Jackson really proves Michael Shermer's thesis about intelligence and belief.
Julia Sweeney made some great conributions.
UppruniTegundanna 1 year ago 3
Maybe it should be retitled "Michael Shermer argues with a dumbass woman for 10 minutes."
generaleskimo 1 year ago 4
What an infantile pig.
Tx for posting this show, I can't find any torrents.
costasra 1 year ago
victoria jackson does not belong in this debate. i can not respect your opinion if you defend every point by stating "god said..." or quoting some random verse from the bible. i don't believe in the bible, why would you think using it as a source is going to change my mind?? you may as well say "the tooth fairy said..."
linzzyy 1 year ago 38
@linzzyy She was there for the laughs.
Julia Sweeney especially, can be heard laughing often at the nutty Ms Jackson.
I know how Sweeney feels cause if I were there, I would be laughing too, though I am still grinning now, because the poor Ms Jackson seems so out of touch with reality, but trying so hard to feel sane, lol
waltermh111 1 year ago
@linzzyy shes supposedly a comedian not a biologist
farerse 1 year ago
@linzzyy this victoria has such a terrible voice.. that I do not want to hear what she says anyway..
hotcat70 11 months ago