Hi Matt, the last comment you made regarding the litmus test for "power user kind of thing" did not answer the question fully if you would be in a high risk area. Our UX team ofter has questions about testing and having navigation hidden on certain pages through JS when a page loads. This would not be attempting to Spam Google or influence rankings, but to A/B test user interaction w/in our site limitations. Would this still be considered cloaking and therefore bad?
so, it seems to me that a short url service is not good either? especially if it comes with a frame? I think I may have missed something here... I need to to study this a bit more... very interesting though thank you!
@keithcarberry if the url shortener comes with frames you should stay away from it. most good url shorteners will use good redirects and pass on juice to your site. look for: Do URL shorteners pass anchor text?
Geolocation is seriously bad for users. What should be used is the settings in the browser. I have my browsers set to get pages in English. Always! I don't care about Portuguese, German, French or whatever when I am travelling. Just because I connect to the internet in a special country does not mean I speak the language. Simply a terrible user experience. The browser setting should ALWAYS override the geolocation.
What about using those plugins that serve a block of content that is different based on the different social networks a visitor might come from? Like WP-Greetbox - Has welcome messages or whatever content you want, based on the referrers.
What about serving all visitors (users and Googlebot) a very basic page, with the most relevant & essential content (for example, if a blog, just serving the article content), and then enhancing the page (and thus, the user experience) using Javascript (for example, adding navigation, links to related content, footer, etc)?
This may be a common approach in the next years, following the current trends of mobile-first, responsive design approach.
To clarify (and because there wasn't space for more characters).
Most users (those with JS enabled or a particular user agent) will get the basic page that will get some enhancents during loading/rendering time.
Other visitors (those with JS disabled, or GoogleBot) will get the basic page, with the relevant/expected content, without all the other extra elements (navigation, links to related content, etc)
@adithecool huum, then the user will be redirected again when clic on the Spanish site. Do you mean to disable the redirection if the user comes through the link and not redirected if is coming directly? it's a bit weird no?
Hi, If Googlebot crawls only from US. How can crawl a Spanish Website that redirects to the english version? In this case the Spanish Website is kind of invisible? or what?
@stanleycrox You add a link to Spanish website to the US website for Googlebot to crawl. Its an equivalent to a American user wanting to browse the Spanish website.
It's really disappointing that this video doesn't mention Google's "First Click Free" program (which requires you to check for the useragent "Googlebot") or Google's AJAX Crawling specification, which lets you return HTMLified JavaScript just for Googlebot.
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00lucky7 2 months ago in playlist Weitere Videos von GoogleWebmasterHelp
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lluqg0g1 2 months ago
Its Very Helpful
ajayspring 3 months ago
"..and everybody is happy" :-)
AreoDj 3 months ago in playlist Altri video di GoogleWebmasterHelp
Hello... very helpful, thanks
Slightly of topic;- what's the Google thinking on the use of stealth forwarding please? Sadie
JustAskSadie 3 months ago
Hi Matt, the last comment you made regarding the litmus test for "power user kind of thing" did not answer the question fully if you would be in a high risk area. Our UX team ofter has questions about testing and having navigation hidden on certain pages through JS when a page loads. This would not be attempting to Spam Google or influence rankings, but to A/B test user interaction w/in our site limitations. Would this still be considered cloaking and therefore bad?
Carebearus 3 months ago
so, it seems to me that a short url service is not good either? especially if it comes with a frame? I think I may have missed something here... I need to to study this a bit more... very interesting though thank you!
keithcarberry 4 months ago
@keithcarberry if the url shortener comes with frames you should stay away from it. most good url shorteners will use good redirects and pass on juice to your site. look for: Do URL shorteners pass anchor text?
MilagroJonathan 2 weeks ago
nothing about showing content behind paywalls/registration to crawlers. so not quite definitive :-)
fusionunlimited 4 months ago
Geolocation is seriously bad for users. What should be used is the settings in the browser. I have my browsers set to get pages in English. Always! I don't care about Portuguese, German, French or whatever when I am travelling. Just because I connect to the internet in a special country does not mean I speak the language. Simply a terrible user experience. The browser setting should ALWAYS override the geolocation.
Oceanwatcher 4 months ago 2
Круто!
MsDollarplus 4 months ago
Disseminated that he didn't talk about blocking googlebot from a JavaScript file with robots.txt
aish1108 4 months ago
Matt what about sites that use js to create a different user experience for bots vs google?
searchSB 4 months ago
What about using those plugins that serve a block of content that is different based on the different social networks a visitor might come from? Like WP-Greetbox - Has welcome messages or whatever content you want, based on the referrers.
Is that considered cloaking?
rakxzo 4 months ago
What about serving all visitors (users and Googlebot) a very basic page, with the most relevant & essential content (for example, if a blog, just serving the article content), and then enhancing the page (and thus, the user experience) using Javascript (for example, adding navigation, links to related content, footer, etc)?
This may be a common approach in the next years, following the current trends of mobile-first, responsive design approach.
lemannequin 4 months ago
To clarify (and because there wasn't space for more characters).
Most users (those with JS enabled or a particular user agent) will get the basic page that will get some enhancents during loading/rendering time.
Other visitors (those with JS disabled, or GoogleBot) will get the basic page, with the relevant/expected content, without all the other extra elements (navigation, links to related content, etc)
lemannequin 4 months ago
Is it me or Matt looks quite young in this video?
irishrecruitertube 4 months ago
It's amazing that Matt Cutts is re-pushing this the day after the distilled conference in NY.
yadion 4 months ago
OMG PORN ! NOT PORN !
CALL THE COPS !
MinotawrTV 4 months ago
@adithecool huum, then the user will be redirected again when clic on the Spanish site. Do you mean to disable the redirection if the user comes through the link and not redirected if is coming directly? it's a bit weird no?
stanleycrox 4 months ago
Very useful, though a bit too long on topic.
McBrown83 4 months ago
Hi, If Googlebot crawls only from US. How can crawl a Spanish Website that redirects to the english version? In this case the Spanish Website is kind of invisible? or what?
stanleycrox 4 months ago 3
@stanleycrox You add a link to Spanish website to the US website for Googlebot to crawl. Its an equivalent to a American user wanting to browse the Spanish website.
adithecool 4 months ago
IE7? What year was this video made?
ShawnKHall 4 months ago
It's really disappointing that this video doesn't mention Google's "First Click Free" program (which requires you to check for the useragent "Googlebot") or Google's AJAX Crawling specification, which lets you return HTMLified JavaScript just for Googlebot.
dfabulich 4 months ago
Matt swears @ 5:25
griffinsbridge 4 months ago 2