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  • * Meningitis vaccines now pushed onto 9-month-old toddlers

    Wednesday, September 14, 2011 by: PF Louis~ Why we've won the war on vaccine info - Rick Perry's ties to HPV vaccines hurt him in the polls. Mike Adams, NaturalNews*cm~

  • Google: 'Charred shrink wrap in Merck vaccines/ WSJ ' 

  • Google: 'Gates Foundation partner forces vaccines on Malawian children at gunpoint, arrests parents. NaturalNews*cm

  • Google: The Tragedy Of Vaccination-Dr Rima Replies to The Vaccine Pushing, Child-Destroying Tragedy of 'Standard Medicine.' Healthfreedomusa*org

  • Google: FDA Approves Virus Spray For Meat.'

  • Google: Syringe Of Death.

  • Google: FDA Approves Drugs With No Scientific Data.

  • New research links mercury to autism -- yet again:

    wwwdotnaturalnewsdotcom/031678­_mercury_autismdothtml

  • For an interesting article Google: 'Guatemalans to sue US government for secretly infecting them with syphilis.'

  • why would be get vaccines when virisus is wat makes us evolve, if the cave man had vaccines we'd still look like cave man..

  • Fantastic logic........ They don't endanger anyone else...... Except those who have not yet gotten the vaccine, and the vaccines are not 100% effective.......

  • thats the most basic common sense way of looking at it! You make alot of sense...If i'm not vaccinated anbd you ARE, then you dont need to worry do ya!! ha ha!!

  • Thanks for the comment. They love their excuses when vaccinated folks get the disease, they rollout the coincidence theory when folks get sick post vaccination. Cheers

  • Wrong. Look this up. Viruses mutate and adapt. Having a large pool of unvaccinated persons gives them room to freely move about the population and bide their time while they develop new stragegies. That's how having a some people not get vaccinated hurts those who do.

  • If this is the case then unless every single person on the planet is vaccinated the system of vaccination will fail.

  • I didn't say fail. It will just be less efficient. Nor does coverage have to 100%. I believe the percentage is 95%, I'd have to look it up. That there are parts of the world where people are not getting vaccinated is a shame and reason not count any disease as extinct just yet.

  • "I believe the percentage is 95%"

    The key words there are 'I'believe'.

    In fact, the protection rate from vaccines is ZERO. Get this; VACCINES DO NOT PREVENT DISEASES. Again: VACCINES DO NOT PREVENT DISEASES. And again: VACCINES DO NOT PREVENT DISEASES. End of story. If you don't believe it, look up the graphs on 'health sentinel'.

  • Repeat it some more times and they're still lies. How many cases of polio, small pox and measles do we have in the US today compared to years ago? The reason; vaccines.

  • "The reason; vaccines."

    That's a belief, or a myth; it's not a fact. Google 'health sentinel' and click on 'graphs.' Also, watch my 5-part youtube presentation 'Vaccination: Miracle or Mayhem?'

  • Yeah, fun little anti-vacc. site with doctored graphs and cherry picked data. I've seen this all before with young earth creationists. At least their lies didn't lead directly to peoples death.

    How is it that mortality was dropping without vaccines? Were the viruses suddenly just giving up?

  • "doctored graphs"

    Get the government statistics, trn them into graph format and you will get exactly these graphs. You can actually get graphs like these from CDC and JAMA.

    "cherry picked data"

    That's a bit rich! The medical-pharmaceutical mafia has been running a brutal but profitable racket for the past 200 years, based on the cherry-picked lie that Jenner''s barbaric vaccine prevented smallpox.

  • Contd.

    "Did viruses suddenly give up?"

    It's not the mould that makes an apple go rotten. As an apple gets overripe, the fructose undergoes changes which enables fungi and bacteria to proliferate and assist in the breakdown of the tissues. Microorganisms are not the direct CAUSE of disease, but the RESULT of it.

  • Contd.

    If viruses REALLY caused the flu, EVERYONE coming into contact with the virus would get sick, This is not the case. Only people whose imune system is in a lowered condition will get the flu.

  • Contd 2

    Likewise, diseases or epidemics come and go, depending on certain conditions. Typically, TB e.g. appears in poor living conditions.

    Vaccinations had and have virtually NOTHING to to with it; if anything, they have a negative effect. The plague has almost disappeared, without a vaccine ever being used, as has typhoid fever, at least in developed nations. Explain that!

  • That's baloney. Otherwise healthy people get the flu all the time. Some even target younger, healthier types.

    We have years of scientific evidence of viruses and the role they play in many diseases.

  • You are truly nutty. Fungi and bacteria can cause non ripe fruits and vegetables to go bad. Germ theory is well established. With this nutty idea of yours you have placed yourself amongst the flate earthers and anti-evolutionists.

  • I got graphs from the CDC (in the same google search). They call you a liar.

    Amazing that you accept CDC as a reliable source as long as you think it backs up your position.

  • You wrote: "doctored graphs and cherry picked data."

    That is exactly how I see the CDC agenda with insiders who have vested interests in vaccine sales. It is a multi billion dollar industry, imagine if that industry is threatened by those who have a choice to get vaccinated or not rather than cornered by mandatory vaccines which is really about cornering for money.

  • "You wrote: "doctored graphs and cherry picked data." That is exactly how I see the CDC agenda with insiders who have vested interests in vaccine sales"

    Yet all the data that the anit-vaccine movement uses comes from this supposed evil cabal. GIGO. Do you suppose the Geier's don't have a financial stake in the anti-vac movement?

    Next you'll be saying the agricultural industry is falsifying data for the FDA to hide the truth of the breatharians.

  • I'm not saying that, either. I'm saying, I don't trust everybody just on the guise of what they say no matter what side they are on. Take into consideration that US pharmaceutical companies are notorious around the world for cornering people into only buying their product over a less toxic and more promising product. That's pretty simple to understand.

  • "the system of vaccination will fail"

    Vaccines are actually very effective in achieving the purpose they are given for:

    1. Making us sick.

    2. Reducing our and our children's intelligence.

    3. Impairing our and our children's immune systems.

    The psychopaths who are pushing this insanity are motivated by these three factors:

    1. Fun

    2. Profits

    3. Population control and reduction

  • 6 lies in one post. No evidence for any of the loony claims.

  • "6 lies in one post. No evidence for any of the loony claims."

    Google and read "Dr A Kalokerinos interview', 'Dr. Mark Randall interview' (but avoid abridged Nexus version) and 'Uganda polo vaccine deaths'.

  • The plural of anecdote is not evidence. Putting Dr. in front of someone's name doesn't change that.

  • @davidnightingale Wrong. If enough of the population is vaccinated, then the phenomena of "herd immunity" can occur which reduces the risk of those who were not vaccinated.

  • "That's how having a some people not get vaccinated hurts those who do."

    You've got his wrong as well. It's the vaccinated whose vaccine viruses bide their time while developing new stragegies to infect unvaccinated people. .

  • That's an absolutely nutty idea. Why not claim that there are bugs in our entire food supply that burrow into our brains to make us zombies. Makes about as much sense and there is about as much evidence.

  • "That's an absolutely nutty idea"

    No, it's a fact. Vaccines contain contaminants from the tissue cultures the vaccine virus is grown on, such as reverse transcriptase from bird flu virus from the chick embryos the measles component of the MMR vaccine is grown on, and monkey viruses from the monkey kdneys the polio virus is grown on. Vaccines are absolute filt and should not ever be injected into a human being (or an animal, for that matter).

  • *GASP!* You mean there are foreign particles in the vaccines! Kid, you really don't want to know where your food comes from if this gets your panties in a twist. No viruses have been introduced into the populace through vaccines.

  • " you really don't want to know where your food comes from if this gets your panties in a twist"

    Listen, dummy: food is not INJECTED into babies! Don't you have brain to think with?

    Also, millions of people were vaccinated with polio vaccine the combined medical brains didn't realise was contaminated with dozens of monkey viruses, including carcinogenic SV 40, due to the fact that the polio virus had been cultured on monkey kidneys,

  • Food is injected into babies every day. It's called eating..

    There is a chance that there is a link between sv40 and cancer. Only fools and people with an agenda will assume it's proven. That there is even a chance is why changes were made in the vaccine.

    But then, you'd rather let babies die.

  • k, first rule here: read a book about vaccines. second rule: after understanding the principles think third rule: use facts to support claims! now: if you really want to know how this works go to a university say "i really would like to know how i can test vaccination", if you are nice they will SHOW to you how effective is a vaccine, antibiotic, anything

  • I read this book amongst others: Are They Really Safe and Effective? Neil Z Miller ISBN 978-188121730-5 I have been to universtiy, and am qualified in applied biology. Cheers mate.

  • p.s. The info I've read on the HPV vaccine suggests it increases the chances of cancer by 44.6% if they already have the virus. It only protects against a few of the strains. It contains polysorbate 80 which has caused infertility in mice, it contains sodium borate= roach poison. After getting the vaccines girls have died and many others adversly affected.

  • Also Autism does not seem to be a problem in communities that don't use vaccines, but it has increased dramatically in the rest of the population. Vaccines have increased. Also there is a link with the number of flu vaccines and the chances of getting dementia. The vaccines contain a neurotoxin called mercury.

  • "does not seem to be a problem"? what about measles coming back? wanna see polio and smallpox 2 coming back? u don't even know what autism is, you have biology education, not medical david... there is a link? where? give the pumed link i'll read it. Mercury exists naturally in the human body at an average 20 ppb, limit 100 ppb, flu vaccine has a max 5 ppb. do the math.

  • According to mercola the majority have 25 micrograms of mercury.

  • nice...you keep giving quite the support for what you say...let's see: Joseph Mercola - osteopathic physician, "received two warnings from the FDA for marketing nutritional products in a manner which violated ..."please david, use credible sources, want one? PUBMED, don't like it? want one to give you the value of mercury in a vaccine? sure:call any medical, biochemistry or research lab, they will give it to you. limit of mercury in any vaccine does not go above 5ppb, want it in microg?w8 i give

  • "limit of mercury in any vaccine does not go above 5ppb"

    You would have had to multiply this with the number of mercury-containing vaccines children wer given, to arrive at a correct total. But tou would have to have mathematical skills to figure this out, obviously not a forte of Mickey Mouse vaccine (pseudo-)scientists.

  • so i give you this: average normal mercury levels in the human body (we actually need mercury to survive): 20ppb

    Plus 5ppb that last for a couple of hours to day = no harm. That's one of the reasons that vaccines are not all given at the same time. But you have clearly no skills to figure out how to understand this. btw, to know the quantity of mercury, to know what is neurotoxicity you need to understand science.

  • "know what is neurotoxicity you need to understand science"

    Not really. Just common sense. In 1977, ten babies in a Toronto hospital were killed when an antiseptic containing Thiomersal - THE SAME STUFF THAT WAS THEN ADDED TO INREASING NUMBERS OF CHILDHOOD VACCINES - was dabbed on their umbilical cords.

    You may call it science. To me it's Mengele-style experimentation.

  • again the damn story: ANTISEPTIC IS DIFFERENT FROM VACCINES! and give the link for the first story about the case and you'll see how that is just a pile of lies.

    You may call it science. a thing you are using when it fits your delusion. and you keep not giving you paper about how vaccines can damage anyone. just case reports of bogus stories, from conspiracy places....

  • when are you going to give that well explained paper that shows clearly that you might be right? where is that nice paper that shows how vaccines were damaging and how? nothing? ofc not... you just keep being misinformed...

  • OK. Yazbak, F.E. "Autism: Is there a vaccine connection? Part I. Vaccination after delivery." 1999. Part I

    Yazbak, F.E. "Autism: Is there a vaccine connection? Part II. Vaccination around pregnancy." 1999. Part II

    Yazbak, F.E. "Autism: Is there a vaccine connection? Part III. Vaccination around pregnancy, the sequel." 2000. Part III

  • "The Autism Epidemic: Is the NIH and CDC Response Adequate?" Government Reform Committee Hearing, Washington, DC. (April 18, 2002.)

  • Contd.

    There are plenty more papers at 'thinktwice', under 'studies'.

    Enjoy!

  • yes, and also at the end of that page the disclaimer that keeps telling that you should look for oficial information at cdc and fda is still there... have you noticed the studies simply stop at 2001 and most are from before 1995?... maybe they found they were wrong? don't you think it's strange they stopped puting papers there? better, don't you think it's strange they put papers whose conclusion is that vaccines actually do not correlate to harm? you must read more than the title...

  • "papers whose conclusion is that vaccines actually do not correlate to harm?"

    Just as, to cover themselves, alternative medicine books and sites have to put a disclaimer such as 'this information is not to be taken as medical advice. Please refer to your physician for health advice" , so even medical papers which find vaccine-related harm often end with this:

    "The authors conclude that these findings are not proof of correlation and that further studies are needed".

  • lol, you actually just read your "alternative medicine stuff"....

    do you really think a special court of law to judge such a subject would consider only those studies? please.... check the notes of the courts, who was there, and what studies were used. You'll find that many will say: "with very strong correlation, vaccines are not related to autism", just have to check the rule of the court.

    If you you want ofc, as you only pick what fits your mind...

  • the disclaimer are put in alternative medicine because when they are tested vs placebo they show the same effect, that is = to no effect. That's why you need the medical advice, to actually solve any serioushealth problem.

    people are simply fooled by people like mercola so easily...

    and you found NO paper finding correlation for harm! that's why the further studies appeal. you just like to mess the logic, don't you? No proof of correlation = paper that find no vaccine-related harm

  • "No proof of correlation = paper that find no vaccine-related harm"

    Right. Just like the death certificates of children killed by vaccines which state "SIDS" as the cause of death. Anything to maintain the "Vaccines are safe and effective" myth.

  • and you keep trying to make the science fit your delusion. to you pick SIDS, you are picking a science based medical term. so you accepting medicine here?

    why not assume that you making the misinformation you keep posting, the lack of study, the lack of research in proving you right from your part, as the one who is producing myths, that actually harm innocent children. Like the ones in england?

  • "you pick SIDS, you are picking a science based medical term. so you accepting medicine here"

    I'm just quoting what's put on the death certificates of children murdered by the vaccination mafia. "So sorry about your child's death, I know your child died just after we injected it with poison, but we've got a very nice medical term to put on it's death certificate, called "Sudden Infant Death Syndrome".

  • Contd.

    In spite of millions of dollars we've extorted from you gullible public for research, we still haven't been able to figure out what causes these mysterious deaths of babies just after we've jabbed them with neurotoxins". (crocodile tears)

  • yes, the causes exist, and are explained. You can go check it at a medical book... if it fits your delusion ofc. i don't want to disturb you Vax...

    AND YOU KEEP NOT giving your data.

  • crazy talk alarm from you Vax

  • The special court set up by the U.S. Court of Federal Claims ruled that neither a preservative used in vaccines nor the vaccines themselves could be linked to autism., february 2009

  • "The special court set up by the U.S. Court of Federal Claims ruled that neither a preservative used in vaccines nor the vaccines themselves could be linked to autism., february 2009 "

    ____________________________

    "The outcome of a trial by "kangaroo court" is essentially determined in advance, ... either by going through the motions of manipulated procedure or by allowing no defense at all." Wikipedia

  • lol, the first part was not from the wiki, the second was, but making way to please your "conspiracy" mind. So now all justice courts are not neutral... you definetly becoming more crazy... you found the notes? there was a defense, no maipulation of procedures, it even picked some cases from before. And more than 5000 pleas to come... let's see if you go there and finaly show your bogus "evidence"... none? ofc not....

  • "lol, the first part was not from the wiki"

    What "first part" are you talking about?

  • was talking about the special court case that you copy posted from me and tryed to relate to the kangaroo courts. which is a plain fact lie. more about wakefield: "rates of inoculation fell from 92% (very slightly below measles herd immunity) to below 80% after the publication of Wakefield's study, and that confirmed cases of measles in England and Wales have risen from 56 in 1998 to 1348 in 2008, with two child fatalities"

  • "And more than 5000 pleas to come.."

    Right, If a link had been admitted it would have opened the floodgates to compensation claims by parents whose children became autistic as a result of vaccination - not only in the USA, but other countries as well. Not to speak of the irreparable damage to parents' confidence in health authorites and their criminal vaccination programmes. So the vedict was a foregone conclusion.

  • so you just assume the decision was already done...even with you not looking to the trial notes? you really are a denyer of reality, aren't you?

    So please tell, what would make you feel that a fair trial could be done? just make it. One where both parts bring their papers and explain their views, and try to make their point true. wait... it was done already... and more to come all over the world

    And they will be fair. Unless you«re there to alter the conclusion Vax... (i call you Vax now)

  • "so you just assume the decision was already done...even with you not looking to the trial notes? you really are a denyer of reality, aren't you?"

    On the contrary, I'm a realist. It's so fng obvious.

  • lol--- the logical fallacy of "not looking the notes therefore being right nevertheless" is a miss for you...

    A realist would have looked into reality. And would experiment and show how he can be right. Has you keep not producing evidence for your claims = lunatic. you have what's called in psychiatric terms: "magical thought"

  • Yazbak stands in opposition to the scientific consensus (you forgot the recent trial around the subjct btw) However, the theory that MMR causes autism has led to a drop in vaccination rates. After vaccination rates dropped in northern Nigeria in the early 2000s due to religious and political objections, the number of measles cases rose significantly, and hundreds of children died."

    a yazbak is resigned MD, known to don't send his papers for peer-review....

  • "yazbak is known to not send his papers for peer-review...."

    Very wise, to judge by the treatment Wakefield is getting for taking the trouble of alerting the authorities of his suspcio of an MMR-autism link.

  • LOL, wakefield is getting sued for lying in the paper... he even already presented himself and stated his paper was wrong! you just keep going for your "conspiracy" that fits your mind don't you? let me clarefy you: Wakefield changed and misreported results in his research, creating the appearance of a possible link with autism, he faces currently many lawsuits...

  • "he faces currently many lawsuits.."

    In my eyes, he's a modern Galileo Galilei. Like Galilei, he probably recanted because he didn't relish the thought of being (figuratively speaking) burnt at the stake by a vindictive vaccine establishment which doesn't relish having its criminal activities exposed.

  • lolol...so you discard all the evidence (even videos) of him making his paper a fraud and full of bias and mistakes?

    Galileo had his views placed for review with no fear. He was proven right.

    wakefield, was judged and proven wrong

    just pick up the latest lancet piece about him.

    You saying stuff don't make them truth Vax... keep searching that paper please. I am still waiting for your evidence.

  • "Galileo had his views placed for review with no fear."

    Wrong - again!!!

    Galileo was ordered to stand trial on suspicion of heresy in 1633. The sentence of the Inquisition was in three essential parts:

  • Contd:

    Galileo was found "vehemently suspect of heresy", namely of having held the opinions that the Sun lies motionless at the centre of the universe, that the Earth is not at its centre and moves, and that one may hold and defend an opinion as probable after it has been declared contrary to Holy Scripture. He was required to "abjure, curse and detest" those opinions.

    He was ordered imprisoned; the sentence was later commuted to house arrest. (Wikipedia)

  • so you comparing a justice court, that gives equality to both defendant parties to a religious court.... you really show how insane you are....

  • so...now we speaking heresy... very reasonable....

  • 25 micrograms of mercury = 2,5 ppb that is quite low....when you can get till 100ppb for any signs of toxicity (the body has 20ppb average). and also your body naturally removes the excess.

  • 25 micrograms this is a weight not a concentration. They are not getting one litre of vaccine! Nor is their body one litre, however I think I get what you are trying to say. Unfortunalty folks don't just get one vaccine. Also childrens bodies are smaller and subjected to increasing numbers of shots. The HPV comes in 3. True with the right chelating agents your body can remove toxic heavy metals. Obviously this will be affected by diet. Many thanks for the comments.

  • omg....you really don't know how to do math or anything about chemistry.... so: 25 micrograms in what? and a young child bodie is more than 1L in water btw. the HPV vax can be given to anyone who had not yet have sexual intercourse."Obviously this will be affected by diet" ....hate this diet arguments.... YOUR DIET HAVE 0 influence in anything if you have a diverse diet! so no influence on how an healthy body can remove the levels of mercury or anything else. AND NO HEAVY METALS are being given!

  • The 25 micrograms is the amount in the vaccine. Its like the amount of sodium in a jar of pickles. If you think diet has no influence then sorry mate.

  • lol, diet influences = 0 in anything if you comply with the wheel of food (you learn it at basic school, and dozens of trials have been done provind this). You can't compare sodium to mercury... (btw you need sodium and have a high and low limit for toxicity also). 25 micrograms IS 2,5 ppb, and i'll post it again for you: limit 100ppb, average (that we have naturally of mercury) 20ppb, plus 2.5 ppb for a couple of days...says all= no harm done.

  • Cheers for the reply, I was using the sodium as a comparison, for weight purposes only. On the jar they may say 1g per 100g which is weight measurement rather than concentration. Ref you diet remarks, there are studies that show certain diets benefit cancer patients. You can find plenty of examles of this.

  • yes...when people HAVE a methabolic problem they need special diet (and many other types of patients). But speaking about the regular kind of people taking vaccines...nothing to do with diets! and when they say weight, they also say how much water is there, so very easy to find out concentration. np for the reply, any time to enlighten someone who keeps discarding simple biochemistry and medical science principles.

  • "someone who keeps discarding simple biochemistry and medical science principles"

    Well according to your scientific principles, injecting aluminium, mercury, formaldehyde, MSG, foreign protein and contaminants into babies is good for their health. To anyone with a thinking brain (and that obviously excludes vaccine scientists), this is clearly insanity of the criminal kind.

  • uhm...what is insanity is discarding this very simple concept: toxicity depends on dose. In no 1 vaccine the dose of any those elements in the vaccines are above the limit of the human body. and are eliminated in order for normal levels to be restored in a ffew hours to days, naturally. "obviously excludes vaccine scientists", why? you can check how safe are vaccines yourself, and still you have not given the link to a paper supporting your views.

  • "you can check how safe are vaccines yourself"

    That's exactly what I've done, and I have found them to be not only unsafe, but extremely harmful and even deadly.

    " you have not given the link to a paper supporting your views"

    Try 'thinktwice', then click on 'studies'.

  • "I have found them to be not only unsafe" - but where? how can you say this with not 1 single piece of evidence? where are your experimentations showing that in "1000 people tested this vaccines did something bad"?

  • "how can you say this with not 1 single piece of evidence?"

    I keep repeating myself for your benefit. Watch my youtube video 'Vaccinatio: Miracle or Mayhem? Part 2' or look up thinktwice' and click on the 'personal stories'. "Vaccine horror stories' would actually be a better description.

  • and i keep showing you how the disclaimers of thinktwice say they don't know anything about this subject and ask you to consult the cdc and fda; i keep repeating myself where is your written evidence? the experiments that prove your point? have you noticed the disclaimer in all the pages of the twice website? maybe that website should start saying in the beggining "we are bogus, but please read"

  • "disclaimers"

    Get a life and/or grow a brain. The dsiclaimers are there for legal reasons, so they can't be sued for defamation. More to the point, did you read the personal stories, or is a bit of reality too much for you to stomach?

  • yes, for them to don't be sued for stating lies...I've read the personal stories, got no evidence that vaccination was the cause for her problems.I am sorry for them ofc, but no correlation were proven.Even in one story the mother gave all the vaccines and the baby grew up all right. Can't handle is when 1 year old unvaccinated kids are the only ones with a serious pneumonia in the Intensive care; unvaccinated 13 y/o boy in england is the only one to die in the entire country because of measles.

  • "unvaccinated 13 y/o boy in england is the only one to die in the entire country because of measles"

    If the medical mafia hadn't suppressed measles by vaccinating most children, the 13-year-old who died would probably have got measles at the correct age (as a pre-schooler) and still be alive today. You can write HIS death off to medical vaccination lunacy.

  • k, end of discussion with you. i am tired of keep refering to your logical falacies and your complete lack of understanding in any science. You even have not shown any of your evidence. 1 single piece of paper that studied the effects of vaccines vs harm, made by any of your wacko groups. you just keep insulting and insulting and refering to bogus stuff; you keep using science when it fits your delusion, but deny it the moment it contradicts you. I can only pity you. try live after get tetanus

  • thinktwice disclaimers: "The Thinktwice Global Vaccine Institute is not endorsed by pharmaceutical companies, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the FDA, CDC or any other federal, state or official organization. For official information about vaccines, contact vaccine manufacturers, the FDA, CDC or World Health Organization.","the FDA and CDC -- not the Thinktwice Global Vaccine Institute -- should be consulted for the most up-to-date information" so they send me to the cdc and FDA

  • As Dr. A. Kalokerinos MD, Australia has pointed out, "The unofficial policy of the World Health Organisation... and almost all of these organisations, is one of murder and of genocide."

  • yes and given no proof to prove his point. He is also know to inject people with high doses with vitamin C. (those injections have the same persevatives that same vaccines have) all his papers have very interesting reviews (showing his bias and mistakes) no wonder he does not publishes his works in a medical journal...

    btw if you start using an MD to support your views, are you backing yours claims that you don't believe in MDs?

  • "if you start using an MD to support your views, are you backing yours claims that you don't believe in MDs?"

    There are MDs and "MDs". MDs are peope who can think for themselevs and have consequently discovered that vaccination is a fraud. "MD's" still have to emerge from the brain-washing they've been subjected to. Until they do, they are just drug-and vaccine-pushing idiots for pharma.

  • so you the authority that chooses the ones that are right and fit your views... very reasonable...

  • 1 microgram/Liter = 1 ppb (part per billion)

    25 microgram/Liter = 25 ppb (part per billion)

  • damn: go to fda, cdc, PUBMED, check the values! and how fast the human body removes the mercury!

  • "check how fast the human body removes the mercury!"

    Just as some people react to vaccines or penicillin, so some children are unable to detoxify their bodies of mercury. These children are obviously at far greater risk of neurological disorders including autism.

  • ...... no cause to autism has been found.... and you clearly can't show any correlation with vaccines. you just assuming your own lies. Another logical falacy of yours: "react to penicilin" is refered to an allergical reaction, that depends on dose, and also it means temporary allergic reactions that have no long term effects. Btw penicilin is an antibiotic, not a vaccine. now you gonna start saying that penicilin is bad... or insulin maybe?

  • "says all= no harm done".

    You kill off your few remaining brain cells with vaccins by all means. Some of us like to keep our and our children's bodies unpolluted from crap medical mafia vaccines.

  • "NO HEAVY METALS are being given in vaccines!"

    How interesting. I got this quote from Wikipedia:

    "Currently, plants or microrganisms are tentatively used to remove some heavy metals such as mercury."

  • "The vaccines contain a neurotoxin called mercury."

    ... and another called aluminium (or in America, aluminum)

    Plus neurotoxic monosodium glutamate (MSG) and foreign protein. Cheers! To your ill-health or death, babies!

  • again: toxicity depend on those. mercury only shows neurotoxicity if it goes over the 100ppb limit. because vaccines don't put you over that limit. therefore safe. same for any other thing vaccine have!

  • i know the principles of the vaccine and you can also say that the most related to the cancer are the 16, 18, 45 and 46 types. So like 80% of the cancer at the moment might be prevented for young women. and thats a lot! Polysorbate 80 is often used in ice cream and popular anti-arrhythmic amiodarone, so.... think you are lying... sodium borate use: present in some tooth bleaching, all depends on the quantity david...

  • i believe all your talk is destroyed by saying you read a book of Nei Z Miller...shall i point the education of him: degree in psychology, more? ok: "strong interest in esoteric cosmology" more? ok: "working on a project..."that celestial harmonies and perfect ratios unify God and humanity". think this all about what you read. wanna help in your studies? ok: MUrray.P., medical microbiology. you sure skipped that, and i have more than biology studies.

  • What about Hugh Fudenberg, MD, the world's leading immunogeneticist and 13th most quoted biologist. If you put the following in a search engine it should bring up links, tried a link but it does not show.

    Flu Shots and Alzheimer's

  • "South Carolina medical board found Fudenberg "guilty of engaging in dishonorable, unethical, or unprofessional conduct" - think it says all about the man, he even his papers are critically reviewed by peer by not having any supporting claim to his hypothesis.

  • Try looking up Hal Huggins. Fluoride is a great example of how a toxic waste is still sold as being good for your teeth. Read the fluoride deception. It is classic to discredit the messenger to protect power and money. Look at the science that has been dubiously twisted to justify pharmacuticls as safe.

  • "Huggins had his license to practice dentistry revoked in 1996, after a panel found him guilty of gross negligence." , all said how bad is to even try to use him as support... why don't people use credible sources....of people that actually understand about the subject...like for example: Mayo Clinic website...or BMJ, or...WHO, talking about "twisted bogus" without proof = conspiracy wacko! fluoride = used in "many products associated with oral hygiene"

  • Yep your so right, we should believe big organisations. We should never question who funds them, who funds research. After all Gallileo was wrong, the sun orbits the earth, he was not credible was he? As you mentioned conspiracy, did they find the WMDs? Gulf of Tonkin, was that real or staged? Will sea levels rise 20 feet or 23 inches max? The Mandarin hotel in china, a steel building burned intensly it is still standing. Funny how 3 others fell? But hey officials would not lie to us?

  • lie, never said we shouldn't question. We should, and there are groups who do it (using scienctific evidence). "Gallileo was wrong"?!?!?! lol david...just first read about the techniques, read about physics, and remember there is always a way to explain things using reason! and you can check the facts by yourself! just go for it, and see if you find any proof of conspiracy, just don't start using bogus people in the between...think for yourself please.

  • "think for yourself please"

    That's what we are doing and why we've found out that vaccination is an organised criminal enterprise. It may be of help to you to start thinking for yourself as well, rather than take the word of corrupt institutions like the FDA, CDC, WHO etc as gospel.

  • "we've found out that vaccination is an organised criminal enterprise."- the only thing you found was a conspiracy paper that yuo wrote when you were having one of your schizophrenic attacks, maybe...

  • "you were having one of your schizophrenic attacks,"

    The only schizophrenia can see is that of pseudo-scientist quacks proclaimng that injecting assorted poisonous filth into babies prevents diseases. Watch the video and stop wasting my time.

  • so scientists that spent years studying, researching and experimenting are "pseudo" and quacks... you that have shown 1 single proof are not? I've seen no poison being injected on babies, just fda and cdc approved vaccines that all your links show me to go look for information, in the disclaimers part. i've seen the video, and i think you are wasting health programs time in fighting against diseases. you seem to approve that letting children die because of preventable diseases its fine for you..

  • conspiracy wacko talk alarm..... and i do say we should ask questions, and then go see it for yourself! study, learn, understand criticize!

  • "we should ask questions, and then go see it for yourself! study, learn, understand criticize!"

    That's exactly what we are doing, but then brain-washed morons like you come along and try to pass off the programming they have been subjected to as "science".

  • "what we are doing", if so why you show no understanding of the natural world? or why don't you produce evidence to support your claims? would you care to explain how are you proving that vaccines cause harm without science?

  • "explain how are you proving that vaccines cause harm without science?"

    Demanding scientific proof is as absurd as asking for scientific proof that cutting a chicken's head off is harmful to the chicken. The fact that mafia pseudo-science writes off vaccine-related injuries and deaths as "anecdotal evidence" is further confirmation that vaccination is a thoroughly criminal enterprise.

  • more logic falacies from you: "scientific proof that cutting a chicken's head off is harmful to the chicken" - point? science is based on observation, direct observation shows that the chiken is dead after head is cut off. where is the absurd in this? After observing that vaccines don't cause harm by observation, anyone can mply that vaccines are safe.

  • "After observing that vaccines don't cause harm"

    Don't be such an idiot. Even the so-called health authorities admit that vaccines cause injuries and deaths, hence the compensation paid to parents, in civilised countries.

  • lies again: "health authorities admit that vaccines cause injuries and deaths", yes they do. In the case you posted compensation was not given because of this. Health authorities also show that the vaccines they been using are safe. No death cases reported for decades can be put into vaccines.

  • science shows that there is simply to much evidence that no harm comes from vaccines. "anedoctal evidence" from people like you, that keep not presenting any correlation with harm and vaccines.

  • "there is simply to much evidence that no harm comes from vaccines"

    Well, you have presented your views, and I mine, so let's leave it up to youtube viewers who they want to believe.

  • this is not a question of "belief", it's a question about informing people for them to make the best options. Information based on evidence. Not bogus claims, like yours that always vanish in thin air, as no proof is shown.

  • "Huggins convened a conference with the assistance of a foundation called the Toxic Element Research Foundation., at which the participants unanimously signed a statement urging that amalgam fillings be banned immediately. Huggins contended that the revocation of his license was politically motivated, in retaliation for his claims that amalgam fillings caused disease." Wikipedia

    Now, here we obviously have the DENTAL MAFIA protecting THEIR mercury poisoning racket!!!

  • Colorado state judge ecommended that Huggins' ental license be revoked, citing "'deceptive yet seductive advertising' to trick chronically ill patients into thinking that the true cause of their illness was mercury." his license was subsequently revoked by the State Board of Dental Examiners for gross negligence and the use of unnecessary and unproven procedures.TIME reported the judge's conclusion that he"diagnosed 'mercury toxicity' in all his patients, including some without amalgam fillings.

  • "South Carolina medical board found Fudenberg "guilty of engaging in dishonorable, unethical, or unprofessional conduct" "

    In other words, the usual vilifying and denigrating process doctors who speak the truth about vaccines are subjected to. Wakefield is a more rcent example; there are MANY others. The medical mafia doesn't take kindly to people who expose it's deadly money-making racket.

  • Wakefield is a charlatan who's deception has been revealed. Like you, his lies kill.

  • Also what about Spanish Flu, as I understand it the troops were vaccinated before leaving the US for Spain?

  • so you think the technology for making vaccines has been the same for the last 200 years? i believe you should read a science book before keeping changing subject and clearly not revealing any knowledge about vaccines or the human body. TIP: read Murray.P, medical microbiology, more? sure: harrinson's principles in internal medicine, more? sure: PUBMED, lots of stuff there (reviewed please)

  • "so you think the technology for making vaccines has been the same for the last 200 years?"

    Manufacture may have become slightly more sophisticated since Jenner's barbaric smallpox vaccine, but on the whole, vaccines are still disgusting, damaging and a deception.

  • well, since the vaccine started crazy people like you, who no nothing about any kind of science, but use it when it fits your delusion, existed since the start. And nevertheless no study against of vaccination was made by crazy groups (maybe they did and found it troublesome to show - maybe it would make them wrong).... i find VACCINATION SAFE, and a pity that everytime it is not done, more people die.

  • Well said David.

    It never ceases to amaze me, how the simple logic of ordinary people carries truth especially when compared to the ondoctrinated money grubbing & often criminal corporations & their lackies.

  • I have just posted Part 1 & 2 of a ten-part slideshow series called 'Vaccination: Miracle or Mayhem?' on youtube videos. Part 1 is mainly about vaccine ingredients, Part 2 about vaccine-injuries.

  • "I have just posted Part 1 & 2 of a ten-part slideshow series called 'Vaccination: Miracle or Mayhem?' on youtube videos"

    I have since also uploaded 'Part 3: Are vaccines effective?', 'Part 4: Doctors speak out!' and 'Part 5: Smallpox vaccination'

  • Try reading some books - The Parents' Concise Guide to Childhood Vaccinations by Lauren Feder, M.D, The Vaccine Guide by Randall Neustaedter, OMD and Vaccination: The Issue of Our Times Edited by Peggy O'Mara - This kind of Logic has killed many babies and young children and made the Pharmeceutical Companies Billions of Dollars!!!

  • The right to not be vaccinated is increasingly under threat. People must wake up to this. Thanks for adding the books. Here's my favorite: Vaccines Are They Really Safe and Effective?

    Neil Z Miller ISBN 978-188121730-5 It's like fluoride, you try convincing people to give up their fluoride toothpaste. There are too many people who are convinced by the white coats.

  • "Try reading some books"

    Neil Miller's book is excellent. My favourite is "How to raise a healthy child" by renowned paediatrician Dr R Mendelsohn MD. This excellent Random House paperback covers virtually every health hazard parents may encounter while bringing up a child - including vaccinations!

  • Neil Miller? the psychologist with no biology based education? the one that also has a strong interest in esoteric cosmology? lol - . Dr R Mendelsohn MD already dead for 20 years? who did not see any of the last 20 years jump of medical practice? whose work was already reviewed and found not actual? lolol