Michael Parenti -- Spanish American War 1/3

[Strefanasha]

filthy greedy god damned hypocrites, further proof that the american govt has always hated democracy.

I grow tired of their arrogance and bottomless hypocrisy

Who the hell do they think they are?

[Sgtnickrage]

video sucks

[98bigbutt]

People has to remember that the US dreams of making an empire really began when it was part of the 13 colonies by wanting to go west of the colonies that the British forbade them to go. Also in the last paragraph of the Declaration of Independence it said that the American Indians were savages and to be extinguished.

[MultiSmartass1]

@98bigbutt Yes, but the Spanish-American War made America a defacto imperial power.

No matter how much lust there was for empire prior to 1898, the US was not an imprial power.

This war made the US "one of the boys" in the Club of Empire on scale nearly equal to Britain, France, Germany.

This should be seen as the war that changed everything.

By the way, Anglo-Saxon Caucasian Americans don't just think Indians are the only savages.

They have felt that way about blacks and now mexicans.

[98bigbutt]

@MultiSmartass1,America became an empire through economic and planting military bases throughout the world.

[MultiSmartass1]

@98bigbutt No, the US became an empire because of the Spanish-American war.

That established the US bona fides as an imperial power.

Next time, read some history before commenting on it.

[98bigbutt]

@MultiSmartass1,Actually the US became an empire before the Spanish-American War beginning with the Louisiana Purchase. Which began the Westward Expansion.

[MultiSmartass1]

@98bigbutt The purchase of Louisiana was just that-a purchase.

Notice the words invasion or conquest are not linked to it.

France sold their possession for several million dollars-it was a transaction, plain and simple and it did not establish the US as an imperial power any more than the Mexican-American War did.

Us became an empire when it expanded beyond its continental borders.

[jack48945]

@MultiSmartass1 @98bigbutt Actually, one could never classify the United States as an empire for one simple, yet largely overlooked, reason. And that reason is the definition of the word empire. The definition of empire is a group of peoples or nations ruled over by an emperor, empress, or other powerful sovereign. As this has never been the case for the USA, it can't be classified as an empire in both today's time and past times. We did enter a time of imperialism, though, I don't deny that

[MultiSmartass1]

@jack48945 That's a nearly reasonable point except that it takes having an empire before you can have an emperor or empress. You cant have an Emperor with no empire to rule over. You need one before the other.

So in the case of the US, America did have an empire-just not an emperor to rule over it in a classical sense.

Also, entering a time of imperialism means nothing.

[jack48945]

@MultiSmartass1 Actually it is the other way around, an empire is not born until a sovereign oversees it. As an emperor doesn't always need an empire. A prime example of this is Japan, it possess an Emperor yet it's land-size is only at best the size of a kingdom.  So an emperor can exist without an empire, but an empire cannot without a sovereign ruler.

My apologies, I figured since you were speaking of the American "Empire" that you were speaking of the Age of Imperialism. Never mind then.

[MultiSmartass1]

@jack48945 Yes, the Japanese had an Empire of sorts during World War Two. Also, Japan was intitially a collection of feudal territoires ruled over by Lords so Japan itself was an Empire and thus the reason why they had an Emperor.

[jack48945]

@MultiSmartass1 I wasn't referring to the past, I was referring to the present. They still have an emperor, even though they're a democracy. Their emperor is like the queen of England, a figurehead with no real power. I am sure we can both agree that Japan is not an empire anymore. And we should also be able to agree that Japan still has an emperor, since that is absolute fact. So then, that means an emperor can exist without an empire. But not vice-versa, do to empire's definition.

[MultiSmartass1]

@jack48945 Again, my point still stands. Also, the Emperor has not had any real power in Japan for centuries. The Power was wielded by the defacto ruler-The Shogun- who essentially ruled over Japan. So your point about the Emperor is irrelevent in this context.

[98bigbutt]

@jack48945,The American Empire isn't a traditional empire like those of the past but it's a sneaky,economic one.

[bmiranda58]

@MultiSmartass1 Well I would argue that the French didn't bother in purchasing that land from the natives they just took it. Therefore the selling of that land is illegitimate as France had no right to sell land that wasn't their land. Also the idea of Manifest Destiny is an one as it states that it is US right to move westward with no regard for the natives already inhabiting those lands is crap, why was it so accepted that the US had a right to those lands.

[bmiranda58]

@MultiSmartass1 Well the French didn't bother in purchasing that land from the natives they just took it. Therefore I would argue that the selling of that land is illegitimate as France had no right to sell land that wasn't their land. Also the US didn't automatically have right to the continental borders they took it.

[DuffmanIRL]

The woman stops talking at 3:05

[Ingleseeuu]

Love the announcer's voice. Sieg heil, baby.

[agricola]

the US never sold spain any weapons at the time. there was no international arms corperations in the US. arms produced in this nation were strictly produced for the armed forces/police of this nation. there was as yet, no arms exporting sector in the US in the 1890s. the spanish army used mausers bought from germany. hole poked in the credibility of this bullshit right there.

[agricola]

never thought id see a more fractured view of history than amy goodman's, but damn if this isnt it.

[XxxSakura101]

LOL @ the intro.

That made it lose all credibility right off the bat xD

I hate troll videos, you tube had a BIG problem with them.

[MopDMTBARTL]

The Vatican-Pope-Jesuits-illuminat­i-NAZIS-CFR run the world. they have all the judges, attorneys, doctors, major corporations, etc. all in their back pocket. bought & paid for, etc. our country is no longer free -we live in tyranny! truth an obscure thing, Oppression & lie is the norm. Were all slaves- our masters, the elite, r at least 50 years ahead of us in knowledge, technology, info., secrets & r using all of it against us!

Go here:

truthknowledge. com

Spread it! Time is running out!

[UnoRaza]

None of this would be possible without the vast wealth provided by the concept of central banking.

This is a very old concept whose intrinsic capabilities for "evil" were well known 2000 years ago.

One point of proof is contained in one of our religious books, other cultures, alien to humanity at large, make no mention of this fact.

"Give me control over a countries money supply and I care not who makes the laws." ... as shortly thereafter I'll have the money 2 control them.

[RPenta]

Just because their were pretexts for the Spanish American War, the entry of US into WW1, the orchestration of the attack on Pearl Harbor, the phoney Gulf of Tonkin incident, the incubator baby killing myths of the First Gulf War, the framing of Lee Harvey Oswald as the lone nut assassin of JFK, there is no reason to believe 911 was orchestrated by the US government to justify the "War on Terror".

Iron Rule of American history, media and politics--the past is not connected to the present.

[Laranzava]

More neo communist propaganda.

[slaballinmytrunk]

"More neo communist propaganda."

WTF.That's it? That's your only counterargument? Did you even watch the video?

[DocStrange0123]

are you just stupid or just willfully ignorant? Neocommunist? this was in 1898... where does the "neo" comes in "Einstein"?

[Laranzava]

Ever heard of sarcasm? Retard.

[DocStrange0123]

ever heard of "DocStrange0123 is not a clairvoyant, speacially with such a short comment that could be taken literally or not because there's not enought information to tell if it's a sarcsm or if it's not"? Smartass

[Laranzava]

If you had payed attention to the person i was communicating with you might have gotten it and the moral of this story: STFU.

[DocStrange0123]

If you think that I take automatically for granted that an extreme short comment such as the one you made is a reply to someone, instead of saying "More Neo Comunism Propaganda (sarcasm)" you are wrong I don't take it for granted. If in the first place you explained that to me I would make a full apology for my misunderstandig+calling you ignorant/stupid, instead of that you just add "Retard", ok, fine, let's play rough then. considering to STFU... result: I don't fucking want to. bye

[davelyng]

If Castro is so great then why don't people move there.

[slaballinmytrunk]

Who said Castro is great? Wtf are you talking about? What video did you watch?

[dilbertgeg]

Wasn't this like a century before Castro was born?

Secondly, i know of an American fellow who did move to Cuba. He was the "All-American boy", patriot, college grad, hired by the US Govt, by CIA, cleared security.

His conscience about torture and murder, plus influence of fiance led him to QUIT and expose CIA. He relocated around the world to stay free of our "land of freedom", but the CIA had claws everywhere.

Finally his last choice to stay free was Cuba. His name was Philip Agee.

[NamVetBuck]

Cuba , eh? A traitor deserves to be exiled there !

[canaan1967]

What?

[CapitanFiro]

poor spanish :( stupids wars

[donttrustany1]

poor Spanish? you have got to be fucking joking.

[PlasticJesus341]

Its so hard to listen to Parenti with the distracting video

[PlasticJesus341]

haha will do

[dilbertgeg]

Clips from the video Fourth World War.

This is how some describe the war of ordinary people vs. elites.

[DaHonestAbe]

I know what you mean. Turn your screen off, that sort of helps.

[canaan1967]

I know. I thought I had ADD or something :-) Glad that Suryu uploaded it though.

[erby1kabogey]

Great post by the way even though it pisses me the hell off!

[erby1kabogey]

Good thing Americans are so dumbed down about things like history to even know or much less even care cuz maybe they'd be compelled to do something about it!

[westphalianprinz]

The Spanish American War showed that the US would engage as a neocolonial power. That this country would rule by proxy all the nations under its control. After World War II, the US demanded that all the European powers turn over their empires to US proxy rule in the guise of given these countries their freedom (exception of Indochina-- of course). The Cold War scam then gave the US government a "security" reason to engage in Empire building. The Cold War was nothing more than that.

[Ingleseeuu]

@westphalianprinz Sieg heil, dude. Your Nazi comments rock! "...UNDER the guise of GIVING these countries..." I think the US simply filled the gap left by Herr Hitler, my friend. Germany could not destroy the the Jewish bolsheviks....haha. Dumb ass, learn to spell.

[98bigbutt]

@westphalianprinz,What I hate more is that the US supports dictators in those countries and letting these dictators killing their own people so the US could make $ by building corporations or Military bases on those lands.