Hmm...I'm still learning but could this have been a case of shortened brake lines? If he bought this wing second-hand, the previous owner may have caused the problem as much as this guy did by pulling so much brake - which didn't really look to be that much to me, at least not as much to cause this spin/stall.....or am I talking out of my ass?!!
i see he got a new wing... i guess your life is worth a few thousand bucks.. hands were above his shoulders until a second before the crash when he pulled a small amount of left brake and the left side stalled, if he had more altitude he would have ended up in a spin... i'm betting you bought a second hand wing to save money..?
See him pull the left brake to his ass, just before his mysterious spin? Cause and effect. Don't blame the proto-wing, they flew fine, usually, if you don't get them wet.
Good example of why you need to go with the flow, and visualize a complete flight plan.
I don't know where neutral brakes is on that wing, but the whole time the pilot was in the air, his hands were even with his shoulders. I have only flown power, and I could get away with that. But from what I hear, speed is life with un-powered paragliders. Stay off the brakes, right?
No not really, you just have to learn the stall/spin point. Most modern 1/1-2/2 gliders have quite long brake travel. You need to slow the wing down quite a bit when thermalling. Try leaving the motor at home one day, you might enjoy it.
this is the reason i never bought a paramotor. the paraglider seem so unpredictable with how they react in differ conditions. imagine if that happened at a higher altitude.
He is pulling the brakes far to much so that he is stalling the glider. Thats is like turning the steering wheel of you car 90 degrees while driving on th motorway. Well not realy unpredictable in this case...
At a higher altitude, typically the wing would recover and he would fly on. If it did fail to recover, and he had a reserve (all paragliders should) he could deploy it. Altitude is life. Your just as dead from 100 feet as 10,000 feet.
This is a joke right ??? Even if your wing was in perfect condition it wouldn't pass modern basic safety tests. I flew in the early 90's and I fly now - the wings are worlds apart.
How can you say that paraglider is old? That we will never find out. Look from the point when camera zoom in!!! His hands are half pulled down and you will see paraglider slowing down. At this point his paraglider is flying at minimum speed and the angle of the wing is the proof. At the same time he is pulling left arm down slowing it to the maximum which causing the complete stall.
The pilot is me. The glider is very old. 1993 flight design a4. The brakes were near zero level. And the wind was not strong. I think the stall was because of the paraglider was so old and about my weight. 85-114 glider. Me 120kg with glider.
He was holding brakes all the time and did not let paraglider gain the speed. Why did he pulled brakes so hard at the end (dont understand)??? He was lucky to be only few meters behind the ground. If it happened little lower he could kill himself. Real luck
The glider seems very old; eighter with porous cloth, or the trim is way to slow. (probably both)
The wing enters the stall by itself, there is no fault of the pilot. Only after the wing enters the stall, the pilot is frightened, and pulls the brakes, instead of "hands up" and pushing the speed bar, or pulling the a-risers.
But it's difficult to react in the right way at this low altitude!
So: This could't happen with a glider in proper condition!
How can you say that paraglider is old? That we will never find out. Look from the point when camera zoom in!!! His hands are half pulled down and you will see paraglider slowing down. At this point his paraglider is flying at minimum speed and the angle of the wing is the proof. At the same time he is pulling left arm down slowing it to the maximum which causing the complete stall.
Clearly not the pilot's error.
albedran2 7 months ago
he flares simple
jennyjohnstone 10 months ago
CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE THE LEFT BRAKE WAS BURRIED AT 22 TO 23 SECS.
gilessmokey 1 year ago
Yup, as others have said, old teabag. Get an instructor who'll steer you away from this kind of error and get a new wing, it's cheaper than surgery.
dorbie 2 years ago
I suppose a glider of that vintage in those colours is likely to be as porous as a tea bag. I think that can cause deep stall problems.
tommytipitcup 2 years ago
Looked like it had gone into a deep stall before he did a full stall.
I suppose a glider of that vintage in those colours is probably as porous as a tea bag by now.
Not really surprising it dose not fly well.
tommytipitcup 2 years ago 2
Hmm...I'm still learning but could this have been a case of shortened brake lines? If he bought this wing second-hand, the previous owner may have caused the problem as much as this guy did by pulling so much brake - which didn't really look to be that much to me, at least not as much to cause this spin/stall.....or am I talking out of my ass?!!
00Muttley 3 years ago
when a wings out of wack it can go wacko.
Even if it looks fine
soaringman 3 years ago
i see he got a new wing... i guess your life is worth a few thousand bucks.. hands were above his shoulders until a second before the crash when he pulled a small amount of left brake and the left side stalled, if he had more altitude he would have ended up in a spin... i'm betting you bought a second hand wing to save money..?
itripledareyaaa 3 years ago
See him pull the left brake to his ass, just before his mysterious spin? Cause and effect. Don't blame the proto-wing, they flew fine, usually, if you don't get them wet.
Good example of why you need to go with the flow, and visualize a complete flight plan.
Looks like he tried to stop!
jeremysetdec 3 years ago
I remember those times when I was flying this babe :)
ParaglidingManiac 4 years ago
Ok its not a great wing but it looks like it should have recovered if he didn't pull in a lot of brake at the end.
joefaetheblock 4 years ago
Time for new wing.
SplitPhase 4 years ago
crap wing that is badly out of trim, you get what you pay for
mikefougere 4 years ago
used to have a car that did the same thing
snotmagic 4 years ago
I don't know where neutral brakes is on that wing, but the whole time the pilot was in the air, his hands were even with his shoulders. I have only flown power, and I could get away with that. But from what I hear, speed is life with un-powered paragliders. Stay off the brakes, right?
PPGdave 4 years ago
No not really, you just have to learn the stall/spin point. Most modern 1/1-2/2 gliders have quite long brake travel. You need to slow the wing down quite a bit when thermalling. Try leaving the motor at home one day, you might enjoy it.
CornishColin 4 years ago
this is the reason i never bought a paramotor. the paraglider seem so unpredictable with how they react in differ conditions. imagine if that happened at a higher altitude.
killensworth 4 years ago
He is pulling the brakes far to much so that he is stalling the glider. Thats is like turning the steering wheel of you car 90 degrees while driving on th motorway. Well not realy unpredictable in this case...
TeamColodri 4 years ago
At a higher altitude, typically the wing would recover and he would fly on. If it did fail to recover, and he had a reserve (all paragliders should) he could deploy it. Altitude is life. Your just as dead from 100 feet as 10,000 feet.
azdirtpimp 4 years ago
did the pilot survive?
razed1022 4 years ago
Yes pilot survived and living in turkey and now flying with new paraglider.
Pilot is me. in this accident if the altidude was too much, i dont know if i lived or dead.
But now there is no problem.
takyonxxx 4 years ago
lol no offence mate but no way hes injured
junaid33 4 years ago
uhhh watch the TE of wing , no brake is pulled....glider is way out of trim, lines shrink while a/b stretch back out, and 93' is ancient
cloudbase009 4 years ago
You can clearly see his hands go down, and look at the trailing edge on the left.
It looked like he was flaring a little too high.
Kippu1 4 years ago
uhhhh what, that is a very slight deflection of TE on left....thro that piece of shit in the garbage get a 2004+ for $600usd or less. Easy right!!!
youcantleaveDave 4 years ago
my edel quantum is 93, and not much different from newer wings. bit slower trim maybe but about all
rambosmurph 4 years ago
??????.........:)
cloudbase009 4 years ago
This is a joke right ??? Even if your wing was in perfect condition it wouldn't pass modern basic safety tests. I flew in the early 90's and I fly now - the wings are worlds apart.
CornishColin 4 years ago
Why does the cameraman always miss the critical shots?
N46547 4 years ago
aman dikkat...
madbandito 4 years ago
How can you say that paraglider is old? That we will never find out. Look from the point when camera zoom in!!! His hands are half pulled down and you will see paraglider slowing down. At this point his paraglider is flying at minimum speed and the angle of the wing is the proof. At the same time he is pulling left arm down slowing it to the maximum which causing the complete stall.
totaly agre
ReLeone26 4 years ago
The pilot is me. The glider is very old. 1993 flight design a4. The brakes were near zero level. And the wind was not strong. I think the stall was because of the paraglider was so old and about my weight. 85-114 glider. Me 120kg with glider.
takyonxxx 4 years ago
He was holding brakes all the time and did not let paraglider gain the speed. Why did he pulled brakes so hard at the end (dont understand)??? He was lucky to be only few meters behind the ground. If it happened little lower he could kill himself. Real luck
hexseeker 4 years ago
That's nonsense!
The glider seems very old; eighter with porous cloth, or the trim is way to slow. (probably both)
The wing enters the stall by itself, there is no fault of the pilot. Only after the wing enters the stall, the pilot is frightened, and pulls the brakes, instead of "hands up" and pushing the speed bar, or pulling the a-risers.
But it's difficult to react in the right way at this low altitude!
So: This could't happen with a glider in proper condition!
barneygumble123 4 years ago
How can you say that paraglider is old? That we will never find out. Look from the point when camera zoom in!!! His hands are half pulled down and you will see paraglider slowing down. At this point his paraglider is flying at minimum speed and the angle of the wing is the proof. At the same time he is pulling left arm down slowing it to the maximum which causing the complete stall.
hexseeker 4 years ago