jesus! i agree that the US tried to do somethings better for the peaople of Vietnam, but they also did some serious shit! and im not just talking about the bombs, agent orange or napalm. Im talking about all the wrapes and the murder on civilians, and have any of you ever heard of something called the "my lai massacre" ? but seriously i respect the young men who went to war because they wanted to do something rigth or good for the vietnamese, but the US was NOT just honorable during that war
@jayjayjokke2 well i can see that ou only know about the action in vietnam from what you read. you see the USA was not the only military personal in vietnam. and several of the VC dressed up like the USA and raided villages and killed and said they were the USA. i guess that you better start reading better books.
After all was said and done, the US carpet bombed with 1 000 pounds bombs a third world barefoot country for hundreds of billions of dollars, assassinated and napalmed these people and poisoned their rice fields with agent orange, and killed million of the vietnamese.
The US got away with it because Vietnam is a third world country who can't bring the US to justice.
The US should be made accountable, apologize and pay restitution to these people.
@gilleslibre NO the US only came to Vietnam because we were asked to help. and the US was not the only military over there fighting this cold action. why should the US apologize when we might not have done the things that you want to believe the US did. don't worry we have been sending them money every since. and we really do not owe them a single dime
I suppose that you are inspired in your answer by the response of the Japanese concerning their rape of Nanking in 1937.
Why don't you ask the Vietnamese what they think of the USA's little outing in their countryside that saw the death of 4 M of their compatriots, and the long term pollution by the agent Orange of their rice fields that will cripple their health for a long while?
@gilleslibre you are going back a little to far to 1937, come on get real. and you are saying that the USA never lost a man in vietnam? several of them got blown up by women and children carrying bombs on their bodies. oh, in you eyes the vietnamiese were correct, then why did south vietnam ask the USA to please come help us. you are another person that thinks that only the USA was there fighting, there were thousands of other troops there, and they did the same thing
@gilleslibre the USA does not have to ask forgiveness, because the USA did nothing wrong. the USA was asked to help south vietnam, and so we did. after we were not the only military force in vietnam, but all of you people think that we were.
@rosemarie443 Are you an idiot? It was a war...Everyone in their right mind knows that it was a war. Do me a favor and get me an offical definition of Cold Action.
@rosemarie443 Hey guess what - I am not trash. You are the trailer trash. I am making close to $1500 a week, therefore I am probably paying more in tax than you make in a week.
@50poiuyt This guy is an idiot like his comrades, no education, no class. Spreading lies and copy other people's words. Stupid commie! Vietnamese people hate commies.
@traninfo And Americas "Democracy" is what, having an election and having 1000 lawyers on standby so the so-called results can be fought out in the courts; the U.S.A= a joke!
@rosemarie443 Yep, nothin' better to do than "run down" the gun-toting folks of the USA....... hell, freedom of speech might be lacking here but at least the chances of being shot by some idiot is pretty slim.
Fact is, you Americans don't like the cold hearted truth; your country is a war mongering state.
And no, I'm not Vietnamese, thought I'd look up some war footage after reading a good book.
@rosemarie443 Laughable, look up what domino theory means, they might give you some insight. America hates commies, and they didn't want to see it spreading through Asia. You think the USA went to war just to help? There was no other agenda?
Perhaps look at the secret was in Laos or all the CIA funded coups in Latin America during the 60's....or Iraq, now where were those weapons of mass destruction.
America is a war mongering nation, the history books don't lie.
@rosemarie443 Is English your native language? I hope not. Anyways, I tried to wade through your unintelligible gibberish; I guess you're trying to say the USA is trying the "save" the rest of the world again by ironically making it more dangerous by sticking their noses in other peoples business. You talk about the Taliban, did you know the USA turned a blind eye to the Taliban early on? Quite tragic isn't it. The USA needs to think of the long term consequences of its actions.
@50poiuyt just like i thought you are not from the USA, and i don't think that the "Yanks" have done anything to you, it is just something that you have heard, never read about, and have never been around. if you don't like the people who live in the USA, and help support every other country in the world, and are always there when needed they just stop posting. and don't for heavens sake listen to anymore USA songs or videos
@rosemarie443 Do not talk shit.40% Europans think that Yanks are reason of evil in the world. The "support" of USA "in the world is synonym with evil.
@50poiuyt you know what, i really do not care what thke Europeans think. they can think all they want to. bukt the facts are that the USA never has went anywhere they were not asked to go and help. if we are so evil then why do all of you forgein countries ask us for help. if you want to bitch at somebody, bitch at your government they are the ones that wanted us there. and you sure like the money we are sending you so why don't you sit down and shut up
@50poiuyt and just what is that supposed to mean. i told you that your government is the reason that the "Yanks" are there, so bitch at your country. what you people in Europe think does not bother me because, you do not pay my taxes, you don't send me money, and all you want to do is malign the USA. but let you have some trouble you yell at the top of your lungs for help from the USA. learn to take care of yourself
@hawaiihypnosis I guess you still can't read. did you really read oldies post to you. NO you did not. he said that the rapes were unjustified. wake up and read.
@rosemarie443 I didn't see that post that was above there. Regardless it seems like @oldies1951 thinks that its ok to murder and mutilate people. The only people from my knowledge that thinks that is ok are serial killers...but maybe I'm wrong
@hawaiihypnosis go back and read stupid, and then go to the other post and answer my question, i was in hopes that you had left forever, because you do not read. maybe you left that class out when you went to school, or maybe you skipped school. oldies did not say that it is only in your mind. yes you are wrong.
@rosemarie443 What about the rapes of some of those girls, and the mutilation of others? If you think its ok to rape women and mutilate people you are one crazy fucking bitch.
"about the mutilation, well when a body trap goes off it does a lot of things to the human body." The US soldiers were the ones mutilating people.
@hawaiihypnosis like i asked you before, WERE YOU THERE? the news can say a lot of things happened. maybe one thing can be blown into being 50 or a 100. if you were not there don't pass judgement. and stop running down the soldiers of the USA. why don't you start using some common sense?
@rosemarie443 You are a moron. The book Common Sense has nothing to do with a persons "Common Sense".
The cause did not justify the means you dumb cunt. He killed 109 unarmed people. Other soldiers TESTIFIED on stand that they were unarmed. I don't care if he didn't admit to all of that - thats what witnesses are for.
@rosemarie443 First off you bitter old woman - its not YOUR government - its all of our government. So you have read Common Sense by Thomas Paine? You are aware that he had contributions to liberal theory. Are you or are you not a liberal?
@rosemarie443 Your attempts at writing a logical statement are immensely laughable. "as long as in am a citizen of the USA, and pay myi taxes." huh?
Its funny that you claim that you're not a liberal - and at the same time you have talked about Thomas Paines books. You do realize that he was a liberal, opposed organized religion and many other ideas you crazy right wingers propose?
@rosemarie443 and in the olden days people were not as far right as the neocons are now. And Thomas Paine was a socialist
"Create a national fund, out of which there shall be paid to every person, when arrived at the age of twenty-one years, the sum of fifteen pounds sterling, as a compensation in part, for the loss of his or her natural inheritance, by the introduction of the system of landed property." Thomas Paine, Agrarian Justice.
@rosemarie443 "i check out all of their background and try and decide which person will do the least damage to the USA"
Well thats your problem you dumb ass. You're not voting for someone that you think would improve the country, rather voting for someone that won't damage it. Thats your problem.
Vietnam was not a war, it was called a cold action. and our military had they hands tied because we could not fight. we are trying to control the government, but the dems are trying to take over and control all of the people
@dave777blaster you are right about the war we are in at this time, no matter if we stay or if we pull out all of our people the country will go back to being what it has been for years. but we have to believe since the USA was asked to help that maybe in a small way we did help.
The war criminals were Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Kissinger, and so on. To put great US kids into that pressure cooker was inviting war crimes, and they came in. The US lost, flat lost, even after slaughtering Vietnamese on a scale identified with Hitler. Had no business being over there. None.
After a while over there one wondered why they were willing to fight so hard. And it dawns on you that they are fighting for their country, the way I would fight for mine. I was fighting for what?
Really @rosemarie443? What about the My Lai Massacre where 347–504 unarmed citizens were murdered? US Soldiers were court martialed for their actions in the My Lai Massacre.
@rosemarie443 I don't care what you say. It is a PROVEN FACT that the USA did massacre people in Vietnam - 504 people to be exact. Someone got federal prison time for their actions. You seriously are a moron.
@hawaiihypnosis was it just a proven fact that you read? or were you there and saw the USA kill people? you do know that a lot of things that are printed are not the real facts. there probably was someone that got prison time but was it all his fault or was the blame shoved off on him. and maybe just maybe their own citizens killed them. or maybe their government did and blamed the USA. like i asked WERE YOU THERE?
@rosemarie443 Actually the person who went to prison admitted that he massacred those people. He has finally publicly apologized for murdering the men, women and children. The only reason he was chargerd is because some of his subordinates complained about him killing innocent men, women and children. It was his fault - he ordered the killing of innocents.
@hawaiihypnosis i told you that you would not like my answer. now then you did not answer my question, WHERE YOU THERE? i am sure that he did not order the killing of 500 people? you know the media has a strange way of using poetic license when is come to writting articles. and then there is this that has been said a long time ago., "when the story is greater than the facts, print the story" now is ask you again, were you there?you see if you were not there you really do not know what went down
@rosemarie443 You truly are a sick human being. Why don't you just admit that our military massacred people in Vietnam. It is a proven fact that up to 504 people were murdered (tortured, mutilated, raped, beaten, etc).
@rosemarie443 Um, you're wrong you uneducated bottom dweller. Without the USA there would be no military. We The People pay for the military via our taxes. So in an essence since I pay their wages they work for me.
"Now if standing up for our military and the USA is being sick well then i guess i am"
So its ok to rape women and kill babies. If you believe this you better bet you're not making it to Heaven.
friends of mine went to vientam. Because they made some stupid things. And they got the decison to go to prison or to vietnam... They went to vietnam...... and never slept a whole night without nightmare.....
Never forget Vietnam. Never forget the war. And tell everyone: WE DON'T WANT A WAR! WE WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE
These songs are anti war and trough the eyes of the good soldiers who knew that "killing"is``nt good.There were some rotten bastards but WE all know war is`nt good at all..the music is!
@youbestbequiet "cave dwellings"?! "100 year old technology"?! germany is the most advanced country in the world as well as japan! all the technology your colonies have come wither from us or the japanese! omg! what a moron! but hey, isn't that common in your united colonies?! you're all such ignorant fools and whiny cowards! as I said, enjoy life and burn in hell for all your crimes!
@corollatime There is right and wrong. I don't know who brought you up to say some crap like "war is over let there be peace,,,,,,,,,,, no body is right nor wrong...............helllo dam, i cant post this yet" Check yourself or other will check you.
@christyandmattshow Communists want the freedom to choose Communism but they don`t let their people to have the freedom to choose something else other than Communism. Communists in Russia, China, Vietnam like Nazis, they don`t respect freedom of others.
@PSIHA11556 Communists use violence to impose Communism means one party decides what the national economy must be, what political regime a country must follow. The total of members of communist party take 2% of the population but they use violence to force the whole nation to accept their decisions.
@MinhDucIIIIIII7 i cant belive that there is onely 2% taking controle of whole state ,i mean 98% wrss 2% ??? do you live in vietnam that you can speak for the people there ?
@MinhDucIIIIIII7 i cant belive that 2% can take controle of 98 % i mean if comunism were so bad peoplre wuldnt take it so easy and they wuld fight for their freedom.
and yust a question, doesent America use violence to for their democracy
@PSIHA11556 Communists use various themes to call the supports of various groups in society. For farmers, they promised socialism would bring each farmer a piece of land while they knew that after their victory all lands would be seized, no farmer would own land. They knew by that time, they would have their grip on the society then no one could protest.
@PSIHA11556 When farmers were disappointed because they did not have own lands as promised by communists, they were not interested in working. Agriculture output was very low. Finally, China, Vietnam in 1980s had to give each farmer family a piece of land then the agriculture output returned as high as before the revolution.
My husband went from the jungles of Viet-Nam to Paradise in Hawaii, for his so called"R&R", talk about transition! Yeah, he made it home in one piece, but was never quite the same.
Ho chi Minh, Vietnam's communist founder, is a disguting TRAITOR and MURDERER. He was a member of the Third Communist International established in 1919 by Lenin. He gave up Paracel & Spratly archipelagos with large oil resources to Red China. He even ordered to murder his own mistress named Nong thi Xuan when she threatened to disclose her sexual relationship with him since that would destroy his image as a "Father" of Vietnam who "sacrifices" his whole life for Vietnam revolution.
haha Endly the fucking americans lost a battle and now they thinking before they attack a country, Great JOB VIETNAM! FIGHT FOR YOUR OWN COUNTRY. The Fucking americans think they can do everything in the world.
@Airplanespot "Great JOB VIETNAM! FIGHT FOR YOUR OWN COUNTRY" In Vietnam War, North Vietnam soldiers fought for Communism not for their country as they were told by their government. If North Vietnam did not attack South Vietnam, South Vietnam would be like South Korea today. North Korea also tried to attach the South to make SK communist like North Korea
@MinhDucIIIIIII7 well, then you should learn more history, Ho chi minh asked the USA government to support to get a free country after the World war I and II, but both time they didnt listen and later ho chi minh asked support of Russia and China who did support them. if the south-vietnam didnt want the communism, they shouldnt be hate the americans in that time, but they did and before USA was there, France control them and they wanted their freedom that time too
@Airplanespot After WW I, Ho asked the US for help but was ignored. After WW II, the US helped the French because Ho was communist. Why Ho did not abandon Communism to get the American aids? Does Ho really believe in Communism? Yes/No? If No then Ho is a fake communist and he urges his people to believe in a doctrine that himself does not believe!
@MinhDucIIIIIII7 This is why America sucks, They support to gave the countries their ground back, but if it was communism, it couldn't. that's fucking bad, I though the USA was for freedom and Democracy, I see it all over the world what America does, if a country choose to be a dictate state or Communism, it's their choice, but it isn''t the business of USA to fight against them, because they have a different ideology
@Airplanespot You said communism it couldn't be that bad. After 1975 communists impose Totalitarianism by seizing all citizen properties making people dependent on govern., wiping out all basic human rights, rationing food, profiling the whole population, imposing a huge secret police to scrutinize people. The whole population became slaves of communists
@Airplanespot Communists in Russia, China, Vietnam don't respect freedom and democracy. Communists are a small group of people but armed, well disciplined, mastering propaganda, use violence to force the whole population to accept Communism. Even the US had not intervened to Vietnam, Vietnamese would not have had the rights to choose their regime.
@Airplanespot What battle have we lost. You do know that SVietnam fought to be independent of NVietnam for 25 years and it will again be free of communism, I have it on good authority the communists are losing their harsh grip on the Vietnamese minds and souls. 1/4 of a million SViet soldiers died defending their country 1 million were wounded and 2 million civilians were killed by the North.
I know Canadians were there and many died there. I know a lady I worked with had a son that was a heli pilot and he was shot down & killed . He did not even have to be there.
I'm sure there were others from different countries that joined the US Forces there.
Real freedom is doing what you want and being able to tell a Senator, Parliament member, Premier, or President, to shove it up their ASS. Capitalism, Communism aside.
Team 2 NVA, VC, China, Russia (Cambodia, Laos as cheerleaders)
Questions?
Then people stop saying the US was defeated. There is a difference between losing a war and not having the ability to win under the given circumstances. Last I checked, there was an agreement on both sides of the table at the UN conference.
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Yip, war was started by HaSatan in his rebellion against his Creator God. Jesus said of the the devil: "he is a murder from the beginning." This world is dominated by his authority. Because of this truth, the righteous suffer with the wicked, b/c they live in Satan world. People will always be in a warfare, both in the physical and spiritual. Until God strip away Satan's authority, lets be prepare for war.
I served in Nam; I have also read the comments on this page. The only one that has half-sense is lithopoowit. Do you know how many people were murdered after America pulled out of Nam? Or, is that important?
@vutuanming Prove it. NVA wiped out 15,000 villages and towns in SVN. That is 5 million Vietnamese villagers disappeard. That is more people than were killed by US bombing. Go back to your studiesand stop reading lies and propaganda.
Yes its very important. I don't know the exact number but i know its a lot. American Vets, Vietnamese, Laos, Cambodia children alike, they are still being murdered everyday through Agent Orange and undetonated bombs dropped by US scattered throughout South East Asia. We have to wait for another 100 years for the counts though.
@TheUber133t Check out Democide 20th Century to know the true fact. US/ARVN forces protected Indochina from the worst ravages that would come from communist aggression in the 20th century. It was the most mis-understood and lied about war in history. Communists were the aggressors and were willing to attack cities and towns in South Vietnam and kill civilans in great number.
@denniss265 You Yanks make people sick.If you did not block election in 1956 in Vietnam,the war would not happen .You stupid arrogance was the reason of the war.You deserved the humiliated loss in Vietnam.Shame on you
but none the less. I would like to see your country go and fight them and see how you fair. point is, it's a losing battle for any country to go into Vietnam. jungles to thick, terrain does not support conventional tactics, and the enemy knows their own territory to the square mile.
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MrKatzengreis 2 weeks ago
jesus! i agree that the US tried to do somethings better for the peaople of Vietnam, but they also did some serious shit! and im not just talking about the bombs, agent orange or napalm. Im talking about all the wrapes and the murder on civilians, and have any of you ever heard of something called the "my lai massacre" ? but seriously i respect the young men who went to war because they wanted to do something rigth or good for the vietnamese, but the US was NOT just honorable during that war
jayjayjokke2 3 weeks ago
@jayjayjokke2 well i can see that ou only know about the action in vietnam from what you read. you see the USA was not the only military personal in vietnam. and several of the VC dressed up like the USA and raided villages and killed and said they were the USA. i guess that you better start reading better books.
rosemarie443 3 weeks ago
You work for the State department?
After all was said and done, the US carpet bombed with 1 000 pounds bombs a third world barefoot country for hundreds of billions of dollars, assassinated and napalmed these people and poisoned their rice fields with agent orange, and killed million of the vietnamese.
The US got away with it because Vietnam is a third world country who can't bring the US to justice.
The US should be made accountable, apologize and pay restitution to these people.
gilleslibre 1 month ago
@gilleslibre NO the US only came to Vietnam because we were asked to help. and the US was not the only military over there fighting this cold action. why should the US apologize when we might not have done the things that you want to believe the US did. don't worry we have been sending them money every since. and we really do not owe them a single dime
rosemarie443 1 month ago
I suppose that you are inspired in your answer by the response of the Japanese concerning their rape of Nanking in 1937.
Why don't you ask the Vietnamese what they think of the USA's little outing in their countryside that saw the death of 4 M of their compatriots, and the long term pollution by the agent Orange of their rice fields that will cripple their health for a long while?
gilleslibre 1 month ago
@gilleslibre you are going back a little to far to 1937, come on get real. and you are saying that the USA never lost a man in vietnam? several of them got blown up by women and children carrying bombs on their bodies. oh, in you eyes the vietnamiese were correct, then why did south vietnam ask the USA to please come help us. you are another person that thinks that only the USA was there fighting, there were thousands of other troops there, and they did the same thing
rosemarie443 1 month ago
And when will the US ask forgiveness from the Vietnemeese for this agression of their people?
gilleslibre 1 month ago
@gilleslibre the USA does not have to ask forgiveness, because the USA did nothing wrong. the USA was asked to help south vietnam, and so we did. after we were not the only military force in vietnam, but all of you people think that we were.
rosemarie443 1 month ago
this is so horrible... i still can't understand how people can be like this ..
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Long live vietnam, they kicked us cunt fag brainwashed's ass out. LONG LIVE VIETNAM FUCK United Suckers of Americunts !!
unit731gamer 5 months ago
IMHO: 4 million Vietnamese is killed (i rather wrote it died) and 58,000 us troops killed? what is this? well, however the troops still lose the war.
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rosemarie443 5 months ago
@rosemarie443 Are you an idiot? It was a war...Everyone in their right mind knows that it was a war. Do me a favor and get me an offical definition of Cold Action.
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rosemarie443 5 months ago
@rosemarie443 You sir are a moron. You can't even debate something without acting like an idiot. Now you need to tell me why Vietnam wasn't a war.
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rosemarie443 5 months ago
@rosemarie443 Hey guess what - I am not trash. You are the trailer trash. I am making close to $1500 a week, therefore I am probably paying more in tax than you make in a week.
hawaiihypnosis 5 months ago
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rosemarie443 5 months ago
the worst part is that the Americans raped the women out there, and they went there to try and help.
MinecraftLegit 5 months ago
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rosemarie443 5 months ago
Yanks are the banda of robbers in Irak,Lybie.Go to the asrse with their "help"
50poiuyt 5 months ago
@50poiuyt still trying to hang onto your lies. you just have a big problem that you should get help for
rosemarie443 5 months ago
@50poiuyt This guy is an idiot like his comrades, no education, no class. Spreading lies and copy other people's words. Stupid commie! Vietnamese people hate commies.
traninfo 5 months ago
@traninfo suck comie's cock,moron
50poiuyt 5 months ago
@50poiuyt Stupid communist! like his parents and his comrades, not human! Death to Communists!
traninfo 5 months ago
@traninfo And Americas "Democracy" is what, having an election and having 1000 lawyers on standby so the so-called results can be fought out in the courts; the U.S.A= a joke!
fractalheadache 4 months ago
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rosemarie443 4 months ago
@rosemarie443 Yep, nothin' better to do than "run down" the gun-toting folks of the USA....... hell, freedom of speech might be lacking here but at least the chances of being shot by some idiot is pretty slim.
Fact is, you Americans don't like the cold hearted truth; your country is a war mongering state.
And no, I'm not Vietnamese, thought I'd look up some war footage after reading a good book.
fractalheadache 4 months ago
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rosemarie443 4 months ago
@rosemarie443 Laughable, look up what domino theory means, they might give you some insight. America hates commies, and they didn't want to see it spreading through Asia. You think the USA went to war just to help? There was no other agenda?
Perhaps look at the secret was in Laos or all the CIA funded coups in Latin America during the 60's....or Iraq, now where were those weapons of mass destruction.
America is a war mongering nation, the history books don't lie.
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rosemarie443 4 months ago
@rosemarie443 Is English your native language? I hope not. Anyways, I tried to wade through your unintelligible gibberish; I guess you're trying to say the USA is trying the "save" the rest of the world again by ironically making it more dangerous by sticking their noses in other peoples business. You talk about the Taliban, did you know the USA turned a blind eye to the Taliban early on? Quite tragic isn't it. The USA needs to think of the long term consequences of its actions.
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rosemarie443 3 months ago
@rosemarie443 No, I am not Vietnamese, I live in Vietnam but I am not Vietnamese, get it dumb ass?
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rosemarie443 3 months ago
@rosemarie443 Expat.
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rosemarie443 6 months ago
The war crime of Yanks make me sick.I hate them
50poiuyt 6 months ago
@50poiuyt just like i thought you are not from the USA, and i don't think that the "Yanks" have done anything to you, it is just something that you have heard, never read about, and have never been around. if you don't like the people who live in the USA, and help support every other country in the world, and are always there when needed they just stop posting. and don't for heavens sake listen to anymore USA songs or videos
rosemarie443 6 months ago
@rosemarie443 Do not talk shit.40% Europans think that Yanks are reason of evil in the world. The "support" of USA "in the world is synonym with evil.
50poiuyt 6 months ago
@50poiuyt you know what, i really do not care what thke Europeans think. they can think all they want to. bukt the facts are that the USA never has went anywhere they were not asked to go and help. if we are so evil then why do all of you forgein countries ask us for help. if you want to bitch at somebody, bitch at your government they are the ones that wanted us there. and you sure like the money we are sending you so why don't you sit down and shut up
rosemarie443 6 months ago
@rosemarie443 The shit of Yanks do not smell,moron.
50poiuyt 6 months ago
@50poiuyt and just what is that supposed to mean. i told you that your government is the reason that the "Yanks" are there, so bitch at your country. what you people in Europe think does not bother me because, you do not pay my taxes, you don't send me money, and all you want to do is malign the USA. but let you have some trouble you yell at the top of your lungs for help from the USA. learn to take care of yourself
rosemarie443 6 months ago
@oldies1951 So the rapes by military personal are justified because the Viet Cong did the same thing?
hawaiihypnosis 6 months ago
@hawaiihypnosis I guess you still can't read. did you really read oldies post to you. NO you did not. he said that the rapes were unjustified. wake up and read.
rosemarie443 6 months ago
@rosemarie443 I didn't see that post that was above there. Regardless it seems like @oldies1951 thinks that its ok to murder and mutilate people. The only people from my knowledge that thinks that is ok are serial killers...but maybe I'm wrong
hawaiihypnosis 6 months ago
@hawaiihypnosis go back and read stupid, and then go to the other post and answer my question, i was in hopes that you had left forever, because you do not read. maybe you left that class out when you went to school, or maybe you skipped school. oldies did not say that it is only in your mind. yes you are wrong.
rosemarie443 6 months ago
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rosemarie443 7 months ago
@rosemarie443 What about the rapes of some of those girls, and the mutilation of others? If you think its ok to rape women and mutilate people you are one crazy fucking bitch.
"about the mutilation, well when a body trap goes off it does a lot of things to the human body." The US soldiers were the ones mutilating people.
hawaiihypnosis 7 months ago
@hawaiihypnosis like i asked you before, WERE YOU THERE? the news can say a lot of things happened. maybe one thing can be blown into being 50 or a 100. if you were not there don't pass judgement. and stop running down the soldiers of the USA. why don't you start using some common sense?
rosemarie443 7 months ago
@rosemarie443 Hey dumbass - William Calley admitted to all of those things. There was no news spin on this one.
Speaking of Common Sense have you ever read it?
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rosemarie443 7 months ago
@rosemarie443 You are a moron. The book Common Sense has nothing to do with a persons "Common Sense".
The cause did not justify the means you dumb cunt. He killed 109 unarmed people. Other soldiers TESTIFIED on stand that they were unarmed. I don't care if he didn't admit to all of that - thats what witnesses are for.
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rosemarie443 7 months ago
@rosemarie443 First off you bitter old woman - its not YOUR government - its all of our government. So you have read Common Sense by Thomas Paine? You are aware that he had contributions to liberal theory. Are you or are you not a liberal?
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rosemarie443 7 months ago
@rosemarie443 Your attempts at writing a logical statement are immensely laughable. "as long as in am a citizen of the USA, and pay myi taxes." huh?
Its funny that you claim that you're not a liberal - and at the same time you have talked about Thomas Paines books. You do realize that he was a liberal, opposed organized religion and many other ideas you crazy right wingers propose?
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rosemarie443 7 months ago
@rosemarie443 How do you know he wasn't far left? He opposed organized religion and the mixing of Church and State. Go and read a book
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rosemarie443 7 months ago
@rosemarie443 and in the olden days people were not as far right as the neocons are now. And Thomas Paine was a socialist
"Create a national fund, out of which there shall be paid to every person, when arrived at the age of twenty-one years, the sum of fifteen pounds sterling, as a compensation in part, for the loss of his or her natural inheritance, by the introduction of the system of landed property." Thomas Paine, Agrarian Justice.
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@rosemarie443 "i check out all of their background and try and decide which person will do the least damage to the USA"
Well thats your problem you dumb ass. You're not voting for someone that you think would improve the country, rather voting for someone that won't damage it. Thats your problem.
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rosemarie443 7 months ago
@rosemarie443 There are still some good politicians left. Vote Ron Paul. Oh and by the way I voted republican in 2008.
Now you claim that we have socialism here in the US. What type of Socialism do we have?
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@rosemarie443 hmm wild ideas like allowing the States to decide if marijuana should be legal or illegal?
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rosemarie443 7 months ago
Vietnam was not a war, it was called a cold action. and our military had they hands tied because we could not fight. we are trying to control the government, but the dems are trying to take over and control all of the people
rosemarie443 7 months ago
ARVN!!!
tinle2 7 months ago
The good people of America ought to control their govt better
the govt has pissed away their good name and the wealth of their nation
on foreign entanglements.
So drunk on power and arrogance they had no plan and did not know their enemy.
Today they are in another10,000 day war that they will lose no matter the out come their wealth is lost now.
10's of trillions of dollars pissed away 10's of thousands of fine American boys pissed away.
When will they learn ?
dave777blaster 7 months ago
@dave777blaster you are right about the war we are in at this time, no matter if we stay or if we pull out all of our people the country will go back to being what it has been for years. but we have to believe since the USA was asked to help that maybe in a small way we did help.
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rosemarie443 7 months ago
biggest blunder in America's history and instead of learning anything from it they are now embroiled in another10,000 day war that they will lose.
Will they learn this time no foreign entanglements?
dave777blaster 7 months ago
The war criminals were Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Kissinger, and so on. To put great US kids into that pressure cooker was inviting war crimes, and they came in. The US lost, flat lost, even after slaughtering Vietnamese on a scale identified with Hitler. Had no business being over there. None.
After a while over there one wondered why they were willing to fight so hard. And it dawns on you that they are fighting for their country, the way I would fight for mine. I was fighting for what?
bowserrick 8 months ago
@bowserrick the USA did not slaughter any Vietnamese. only in your mind
rosemarie443 7 months ago
Really @rosemarie443? What about the My Lai Massacre where 347–504 unarmed citizens were murdered? US Soldiers were court martialed for their actions in the My Lai Massacre.
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rosemarie443 7 months ago
@rosemarie443 so it was ok for the US to Massacre up 504 people that were unarmed? If you really believe that you are truly fucking pathetic.
hawaiihypnosis 7 months ago
@hawaiihypnosis like i said to you before you would not like my answer so don't ask again. but i will say this the USA did not massacre anybody.
rosemarie443 7 months ago
@rosemarie443 I don't care what you say. It is a PROVEN FACT that the USA did massacre people in Vietnam - 504 people to be exact. Someone got federal prison time for their actions. You seriously are a moron.
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rosemarie443 7 months ago
@hawaiihypnosis was it just a proven fact that you read? or were you there and saw the USA kill people? you do know that a lot of things that are printed are not the real facts. there probably was someone that got prison time but was it all his fault or was the blame shoved off on him. and maybe just maybe their own citizens killed them. or maybe their government did and blamed the USA. like i asked WERE YOU THERE?
rosemarie443 7 months ago
@rosemarie443 Actually the person who went to prison admitted that he massacred those people. He has finally publicly apologized for murdering the men, women and children. The only reason he was chargerd is because some of his subordinates complained about him killing innocent men, women and children. It was his fault - he ordered the killing of innocents.
hawaiihypnosis 7 months ago
@hawaiihypnosis i told you that you would not like my answer. now then you did not answer my question, WHERE YOU THERE? i am sure that he did not order the killing of 500 people? you know the media has a strange way of using poetic license when is come to writting articles. and then there is this that has been said a long time ago., "when the story is greater than the facts, print the story" now is ask you again, were you there?you see if you were not there you really do not know what went down
rosemarie443 7 months ago
@rosemarie443 You truly are a sick human being. Why don't you just admit that our military massacred people in Vietnam. It is a proven fact that up to 504 people were murdered (tortured, mutilated, raped, beaten, etc).
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@rosemarie443 Um, you're wrong you uneducated bottom dweller. Without the USA there would be no military. We The People pay for the military via our taxes. So in an essence since I pay their wages they work for me.
"Now if standing up for our military and the USA is being sick well then i guess i am"
So its ok to rape women and kill babies. If you believe this you better bet you're not making it to Heaven.
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rosemarie443 7 months ago
Yes I know what happened in 1776 - thats when Thomas Paine wrote Common Sense. Do you know who Thomas Paine was and have you ever read Common Sense?
@rosemarie443 The Military does not rape women or kill babies?
abeer qassim hamza - aged 14 raped by service men.
Following the Kanagawa war there were 1,336 reported rapes during the first 10 days of the occupation.
American marines stationed in Beijing immediately after World War II raped a Chinese schoolgirl.
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so called gooks were actually 12 year old girls that kicked americas ass and sent those cowards packing back home in pine boxes lol
endracismguy 9 months ago
VINH DANH NHUNG NGUOI LINH VNCH
ThePhilong89 9 months ago
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friends of mine went to vientam. Because they made some stupid things. And they got the decison to go to prison or to vietnam... They went to vietnam...... and never slept a whole night without nightmare.....
Never forget Vietnam. Never forget the war. And tell everyone: WE DON'T WANT A WAR! WE WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE
Zedisch 10 months ago
Dang those were good songs! Peace to y all.
These songs are anti war and trough the eyes of the good soldiers who knew that "killing"is``nt good.There were some rotten bastards but WE all know war is`nt good at all..the music is!
Peace.
karateslaginnek 10 months ago
Aww cauck a dow VC!!!
HandofD00M 11 months ago
amercians! filth on earth! killing only civilians and bang about how heroic it was! enjoy life! and burn in hell!
nymerie 11 months ago
@nymerie LOL But we sure have it great here in the states. Enjoy your cave dwellings and 100 year old technology.
youbestbequiet 10 months ago
@youbestbequiet "cave dwellings"?! "100 year old technology"?! germany is the most advanced country in the world as well as japan! all the technology your colonies have come wither from us or the japanese! omg! what a moron! but hey, isn't that common in your united colonies?! you're all such ignorant fools and whiny cowards! as I said, enjoy life and burn in hell for all your crimes!
nymerie 10 months ago
@nymerie Who this cocksucker talking about? Bastard probably lives in my fuckn USA! get out bitch!!
rudolphbaca 9 months ago
@rudolphbaca ... I'm not living in your shitty colonies and never will or even visit 'em!!!
nymerie 8 months ago
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rosemarie443 7 months ago
the attitude of the usa towards its own troops after the war was shameful and should never ever be allowed to happen again .
dave2806 1 year ago 10
5 victor charlies dislike!
cords2345 1 year ago
Đây là những hình ảnh khởi đầu cho một trong những bi kịch lớn nhất lịch sử của nước Mỹ!
vietnamma 1 year ago
and you guys are still fighting .when will you all learn ?
suvarbal 1 year ago
@suvarbal for different causes bitch. atleast we fight.
Fuzionrider 1 year ago
lots of hate here lol
Dglaproductions 1 year ago
I do prefer the raider covering me vs the phantom. I like.
XGCScrappy 1 year ago
you can tell what you want but these guys had to fight. And therefore I have great respect for these US soldiers.
For us Americans are our liberators and we are greatfull for that.!
Regards from Holland.
61VC 1 year ago
@61VC for us they were the most hatred aggressors ,their disgusting war crime make everyone sick.I like to see them return home in plastic bags!
50poiuyt 9 months ago
killer flood..fuck all
bonjourvietnampro 1 year ago
war is over let there be peace,,,,,,,,,,, no body is right nor wrong...............helllo dam, i cant post this yet
corollatime 1 year ago
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@corollatime There is right and wrong. I don't know who brought you up to say some crap like "war is over let there be peace,,,,,,,,,,, no body is right nor wrong...............helllo dam, i cant post this yet" Check yourself or other will check you.
XGCScrappy 1 year ago
Freedom is choice and they cant choose to be comunist you bastards
christyandmattshow 1 year ago
@christyandmattshow Communists want the freedom to choose Communism but they don`t let their people to have the freedom to choose something else other than Communism. Communists in Russia, China, Vietnam like Nazis, they don`t respect freedom of others.
MinhDucIIIIIII7 1 year ago
@MinhDucIIIIIII7 wuld your country let half of state ti decide to be lets say aaaam comunists ?
i dont think so
PSIHA11556 1 year ago
@PSIHA11556 Communists use violence to impose Communism means one party decides what the national economy must be, what political regime a country must follow. The total of members of communist party take 2% of the population but they use violence to force the whole nation to accept their decisions.
MinhDucIIIIIII7 1 year ago
@MinhDucIIIIIII7 i cant belive that there is onely 2% taking controle of whole state ,i mean 98% wrss 2% ??? do you live in vietnam that you can speak for the people there ?
PSIHA11556 1 year ago
@MinhDucIIIIIII7 i cant belive that 2% can take controle of 98 % i mean if comunism were so bad peoplre wuldnt take it so easy and they wuld fight for their freedom.
and yust a question, doesent America use violence to for their democracy
PSIHA11556 1 year ago
@PSIHA11556 Communists use various themes to call the supports of various groups in society. For farmers, they promised socialism would bring each farmer a piece of land while they knew that after their victory all lands would be seized, no farmer would own land. They knew by that time, they would have their grip on the society then no one could protest.
MinhDucIIIIIII7 1 year ago
@PSIHA11556 When farmers were disappointed because they did not have own lands as promised by communists, they were not interested in working. Agriculture output was very low. Finally, China, Vietnam in 1980s had to give each farmer family a piece of land then the agriculture output returned as high as before the revolution.
MinhDucIIIIIII7 1 year ago
Bác hồ có bộ râu dê
Thích hưởng của lạ, không chê gái già
Bác hay hút sách la cà
Ngắm nhìn phụ nữ vào ra Ba Đình
Bác chuyên nhìn chỗ cửa mình
Những cô gái trẻ, thân hình ú non
Bác thèm cặp vú thon thon
Đôi mông nẫy nở còn son đậm đà
Bác mơ tấm thảm lụa là
Minh Khai chổng đít bác cà từ sau..
SinhCung 1 year ago
My husband went from the jungles of Viet-Nam to Paradise in Hawaii, for his so called"R&R", talk about transition! Yeah, he made it home in one piece, but was never quite the same.
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Ho chi Minh, Vietnam's communist founder, is a disguting TRAITOR and MURDERER. He was a member of the Third Communist International established in 1919 by Lenin. He gave up Paracel & Spratly archipelagos with large oil resources to Red China. He even ordered to murder his own mistress named Nong thi Xuan when she threatened to disclose her sexual relationship with him since that would destroy his image as a "Father" of Vietnam who "sacrifices" his whole life for Vietnam revolution.
tim666661 1 year ago
haha Endly the fucking americans lost a battle and now they thinking before they attack a country, Great JOB VIETNAM! FIGHT FOR YOUR OWN COUNTRY. The Fucking americans think they can do everything in the world.
Airplanespot 1 year ago
@Airplanespot "Great JOB VIETNAM! FIGHT FOR YOUR OWN COUNTRY" In Vietnam War, North Vietnam soldiers fought for Communism not for their country as they were told by their government. If North Vietnam did not attack South Vietnam, South Vietnam would be like South Korea today. North Korea also tried to attach the South to make SK communist like North Korea
MinhDucIIIIIII7 1 year ago
@MinhDucIIIIIII7 well, then you should learn more history, Ho chi minh asked the USA government to support to get a free country after the World war I and II, but both time they didnt listen and later ho chi minh asked support of Russia and China who did support them. if the south-vietnam didnt want the communism, they shouldnt be hate the americans in that time, but they did and before USA was there, France control them and they wanted their freedom that time too
Airplanespot 1 year ago
@Airplanespot After WW I, Ho asked the US for help but was ignored. After WW II, the US helped the French because Ho was communist. Why Ho did not abandon Communism to get the American aids? Does Ho really believe in Communism? Yes/No? If No then Ho is a fake communist and he urges his people to believe in a doctrine that himself does not believe!
MinhDucIIIIIII7 1 year ago
@MinhDucIIIIIII7 This is why America sucks, They support to gave the countries their ground back, but if it was communism, it couldn't. that's fucking bad, I though the USA was for freedom and Democracy, I see it all over the world what America does, if a country choose to be a dictate state or Communism, it's their choice, but it isn''t the business of USA to fight against them, because they have a different ideology
Fucking American Bastards
Airplanespot 1 year ago
@Airplanespot You said communism it couldn't be that bad. After 1975 communists impose Totalitarianism by seizing all citizen properties making people dependent on govern., wiping out all basic human rights, rationing food, profiling the whole population, imposing a huge secret police to scrutinize people. The whole population became slaves of communists
MinhDucIIIIIII7 1 year ago
@Airplanespot Communists in Russia, China, Vietnam don't respect freedom and democracy. Communists are a small group of people but armed, well disciplined, mastering propaganda, use violence to force the whole population to accept Communism. Even the US had not intervened to Vietnam, Vietnamese would not have had the rights to choose their regime.
MinhDucIIIIIII7 1 year ago
@Airplanespot What battle have we lost. You do know that SVietnam fought to be independent of NVietnam for 25 years and it will again be free of communism, I have it on good authority the communists are losing their harsh grip on the Vietnamese minds and souls. 1/4 of a million SViet soldiers died defending their country 1 million were wounded and 2 million civilians were killed by the North.
lakecloudmountain 1 year ago
I did not know there were Australians there to.
I know Canadians were there and many died there. I know a lady I worked with had a son that was a heli pilot and he was shot down & killed . He did not even have to be there.
I'm sure there were others from different countries that joined the US Forces there.
woncanuck 1 year ago
Real freedom is doing what you want and being able to tell a Senator, Parliament member, Premier, or President, to shove it up their ASS. Capitalism, Communism aside.
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xlifewillcomex 1 year ago
Has anyone ever heard of Tennis?
Team 1 USA
Team 2 NVA, VC, China, Russia (Cambodia, Laos as cheerleaders)
Questions?
Then people stop saying the US was defeated. There is a difference between losing a war and not having the ability to win under the given circumstances. Last I checked, there was an agreement on both sides of the table at the UN conference.
Troybert8066 1 year ago
@Troybert8066 ..team 1 USA...DON'T forget AUSTRALIA...we were there
MrBennyb 1 year ago
@MrBennyb My apologies, also on Team 1 were the South Vietnamese, cheers for the correction MrBennyb
Troybert8066 4 months ago
Эти Американцы ху--вы капиталисты,
Jimmy9314 2 years ago
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Yip, war was started by HaSatan in his rebellion against his Creator God. Jesus said of the the devil: "he is a murder from the beginning." This world is dominated by his authority. Because of this truth, the righteous suffer with the wicked, b/c they live in Satan world. People will always be in a warfare, both in the physical and spiritual. Until God strip away Satan's authority, lets be prepare for war.
HarmoniousHom 2 years ago
@HarmoniousHom why did satan rebel sir??
5amuel5Hin 1 year ago
comunisam-the biggest evil in history of our planet!!!but thanks god there good peoples called VETERANS.
EROJOSIP 2 years ago
nothing wrong with communists. nothing wrong veterans either
hyperyoshyboy432 1 year ago
I served in Nam; I have also read the comments on this page. The only one that has half-sense is lithopoowit. Do you know how many people were murdered after America pulled out of Nam? Or, is that important?
denniss265 2 years ago 2
deniss265 you Yanks are cynical liars :"Gulf of Tonkin"incident,WMD.believe in you only stupids
ctenar1970 2 years ago
do you know how many innocent people that American troops had murdered????????????? ten thousand times as communists did
vutuanming 2 years ago
@vutuanming Prove it. NVA wiped out 15,000 villages and towns in SVN. That is 5 million Vietnamese villagers disappeard. That is more people than were killed by US bombing. Go back to your studiesand stop reading lies and propaganda.
zzzpqd 1 year ago
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Yes its very important. I don't know the exact number but i know its a lot. American Vets, Vietnamese, Laos, Cambodia children alike, they are still being murdered everyday through Agent Orange and undetonated bombs dropped by US scattered throughout South East Asia. We have to wait for another 100 years for the counts though.
TheUber133t 1 year ago
@TheUber133t Check out Democide 20th Century to know the true fact. US/ARVN forces protected Indochina from the worst ravages that would come from communist aggression in the 20th century. It was the most mis-understood and lied about war in history. Communists were the aggressors and were willing to attack cities and towns in South Vietnam and kill civilans in great number.
xuixuanxui 1 year ago
@xuixuanxui you killed over 2 million people to prevent killing !!! ((WTF))
lavabola 1 year ago
@denniss265 i want to spit in your face you coward
christyandmattshow 1 year ago
@denniss265 You Yanks make people sick.If you did not block election in 1956 in Vietnam,the war would not happen .You stupid arrogance was the reason of the war.You deserved the humiliated loss in Vietnam.Shame on you
50poiuyt 1 year ago
@denniss265 How many people were killed by war criminals from USA?
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but none the less. I would like to see your country go and fight them and see how you fair. point is, it's a losing battle for any country to go into Vietnam. jungles to thick, terrain does not support conventional tactics, and the enemy knows their own territory to the square mile.
TheBachelorfrog 9 months ago
@50poiuyt A lot less than those killed by war criminals from enemies of the USA.
quarterxchange 6 months ago
@denniss265 did you know u lost the war? your also a failure? did u realize ur end is near?
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@sengoku17 good luck with that, your going to need it
dardedar88 1 year ago