Locke versus Hobbes - Freedom and Justice Presentation

[Xyzdragon321]

2:30 second line "wenough" you mean enough?

[ihrwolltmich]

I would have liked to see some discussion on Hobbes.

[OnlinePhilosophy]

@ihrwolltmich I'll see what I can do

[ihrwolltmich]

@OnlinePhilosophy

thank you

[ihrwolltmich]

How did Locke, justify slavery?

[sellbotvpmaster99]

History teacher showed this to us in class, excellent

[OnlinePhilosophy]

@sellbotvpmaster99 That's nice to hear. Which school? In any case, I hope it was somewhat interesting.

[sellbotvpmaster99]

@OnlinePhilosophy Thanks for uploading this, and yes it was interesting :)

[Smael64]

viewer discretion is adviced

[ryanthomasmccallum]

im confused though because Locke defended afro american slavery, thats why in the second treatise he included the notion "unless instructed by a force higher than man" when he was talking about slavery, and most people interpreted this as being a reference to the old testimine of the bible, which allowed for slavery, just seem a little diluted to be using M.L. King to back up Locke's claims

[bicyclethief2nd]

Thank-you. Concise and generally informative. I am interested in America's fixation with Locke. Hobbes has a claim to being the greatest philosopher the UK has ever produced, Locke explored an avenue that was opened up by Hobbes. The authority of the sovereign in Hobbes must always be thought in relation to the fact that he called that 'sovereign', that royally embodied 'general will' (anachronism), Leviathan, which is of no little consequence and certainly not a coincidence ... I love Hobbes!

[OnlinePhilosophy]

Thanks for your comment. yet note that the claim is that the state of nature is pre-*legitimate*-governmment-- not pre-government, exactly (@ 2:04 in this presentation). *Legitimate* power serves to protect our rights (2:28). Legitimacy is described at 2:37.