It is NEVER EVER EVER going to happen without a bloody revolution. So unless you are prepared to get shot in the fucking face by the US Govt. Please stop with this secession BS. Most Americans wont even get off their fat asses to go vote, let alone fight the US Govt. You assclowns...get real...stop the mental mastrubation.
@RedShirtArmy My point is that most people do not fully understand what they are insinuating. The immense nature of their thought. You are a tax paying head...along with 30+ million other Texans. Those are big dollars, not to mention resources, infrastructure and CORPORATE interest. Texas is a large slice of the pie. The Feds will correct the problem quickly. That is why, IF or when anyone decides to proceeed thought, with action it WILL be dealt with.
I think you would need a better Governer than Rick perry before you split off. That guy is a tool. He may talk alot of shit but he has to many connections to washington to actually do what he says. Get rid of him and you would have a much better chance.
I was born in Dallas but I didn't have the opportunity to grow up there. In fact I only lived a couple months before my family moved out. I've lived in Michigan for the past 9 years, I'm of Asian decent and I am a proud libertarian Ron Paul supporter who is sick of the federal government and the statist mindset that heavily resides where I'm around. If Texas ever does succeed I'm getting the fuck out of this Federal Union as soon as I can.
I apologize if anyone is from any of these states or happen to love these states, as I don't mean any offense to anyone, but I'm actually fine with Texas seceding. If they do secede, which I hope they do, I hope they take Alaska, Arizona, Oklahoma, some of the far-right backwater areas of the USA, the entire Tea Party, Fox News, far-right talk radio show hosts & all far-right conservatives & republicans with them
A referendum for secession is coming. Ultimately its up to the Will of the People. If the People of Texas want to be independent and feel it is the only way they can have a representative government, then they will do it and all the power of any government will not be able to stop them. Remember your John Locke. It's all about the Will of the people. Personally I think the referendum will fail, but it is coming.
God, I hope they become independent! They have what they need to survive, and as a matter of fact, could do even better without being under the federal thumb.
hey buddy, you know what happened last time america had a financial crisis? THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD FELT IT!
america is a superpower, so what happens to them effects the whole world, and if america collapses because of fuck-heads like rick perry and michelle bachmann, then the world will turn to russia and china.
so yes, i'm a foreigner who butts in to american issues because it effects us over here as well!
Will be glad to take Arizona with us. Tho I'm sure the Arizona people will want to remain apart of the USA. Arizona is doing what arizona is suppose to do fight for its state rights like texas is only to find washington thumbing there noses at them. Those that don't want secession. I, hope you enjoy bailing europe out as it will cost the tax payers for this as well. You can thank the banking system for all of this.
I do not hold a grudge against America for what it did to my kingdom (Hawaii) generations ago, no American alive is responsible for that. I have always wanted to see America live up to her promise to be the beacon of freedom, and right it's past wrongs. Alas, she has done the opposite. Increasing government control through socialist tyranny, and destroyed our economy through what I feel is a deliberate increase of the national debt. Independence equals survival to us.
I want to set the record straight so that there is no misunderstanding. We who want independence do not hate America, nor the principle of individual God given freedom for which America is supposed to stand. We simply believe that America no longer stands for such an ideal, and there is no other political solutions to the problem as we also feel betrayed by the political parties that we elect to represent us.
im confused, everyones saying how much they hate the goverment and how they wish to be free and all, but no one seems to be doing mcuh. just do it or dont. dont sit around sayign how upset it makes you on youtube, either do it, stop paying your taxes, stop saluting the flag, stop calling yourselves members the U.S. or dont. you all seem real eager, but all this is is a choice, either choose to do this thing or dont. stop tlakign about it and choose.
I'm from Houston and I support Texas independence, 3000gtgomez7 you said that Texas would belong to a Mexican drug lord, but last time I checked we beat Mexico in a war when they had and army much larger than our own and still won our independence I'd like to see a Mexican drug lord try to take over Texas I have no idea how you came up with that theory. Also if Texas were to have Secession & Independence I doubt the U.S. would be able to afford a civil war with the economy the way it is now.
In one month Texas would belong to a drug lord and the new illegals (Texans) would be trying to cross the border to the USA. All those guns we are sending to Mexico will be used to slaughter and possibly wipe out the lonestar state. What a stupid thought I can't believe it came out of a college graduate. What does he think we can do without and army. The USA would then invade oil rich texas to stop the weapons of mass distruction.
@3000gtgomez7 Why do you make such horrible predictions. Texans would better protect their border without the Feds holding them back on that issue. TX wouldn't have the Feds' taxes, regulations, restrictions, etc. that hurt its economy and liberty of its people.
@RedShirtArmy Yes, I know y'all Texans got guns as well as faith in God, and would never let the drug lords take over the way they did south of your border. So true that you would know better how to secure your border than bureaucrats a thousand miles away in Washington DC.
@3000gtgomez7 well i really want to Texas be free. You deserved it since 1836, Mexicans we wont conquer you again, may we could be the one first country in recognaize you as a free country. You are great and just u won one battle against us, but wat a important battle was.
Mexico and I support Texas Independence, may also the rest of the CSA.
guys let me tell you, also Mexico has secession problems, Baja California north and south, Sonora want to form their republics, also Coahuila, Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas are plainning to secede from Mexico and form the republic of Rio Grande, with that possibilities, you could form alliances with that new republics to confront obvious two dangers: USA fury or Mexico vengueance.
btw Yucatan, Campeche, Quintana Roo want also a Republic. May they invite Tabasco.
@3000gtgomez7 Los Rinches closed the border as needed from 1836 till current pols decided the wet-back vote trumped Texan's rights...We (the rednecks) could shut the border down in 24 hrs-and have a damned fine time doing it.
you americans are the most ridiculous people on earth... socialism in the US?? LOOOL do you even know what is socialism to start with? lets see socialism defends a huge or big participation of the state in all economic structures. does that happen in america? NO ... your problem is exactly the opposite you should have more controll by the state. in fact this crisis started with the markets in george w bush regime where some stupids defended free markets and economy from the state
@p220394 We should have more control by the state? At least you are honest about your desire for less freedom and more government intervention and control over your life. I don't understand that sort of slavish mentality and how anyone can hate freedom - very strange. As for Bush, he was not a free markets advocate. He was for crony capitalism where the government picks and chooses winners and intervenes in the market to achieve its own political ends. That's not a free market.
@RedShirtArmy dont you see that a more participative government and state over the economy doesnt mean a less free country?lets see some examples in europe for example: Sweden. Sweden is a country where the state controlls a lot of the economy ( there is free markets and economic sectors though) and where you walk in to a hospital and get almost free healthcare ... this are some examples. and when the crisis broke they werent affected. because they arent dominated by the unstable markets
@p220394 The "free healthcare" is paid for with a very high tax rate - it's not free. Sweden also suffers from a demographic decline & unsustainable economic model - both of these have been encouraged by government intervention. In healthier times the Swedes has a growing population, no Third World immigration, a much freer market and they were a strong power in the world. I don't think your example holds up. Very soon the Swedes may pass from this Earth, sadly, such is their demographic plight.
@RedShirtArmy where do you get your arguments?wikipedia? man wtf?"Sweden also suffers from a demographic decline & unsustainable economic model - both of these have been encouraged by government intervention".1st - they are demographically growing ( they have the highest birth-rate in the world) 2nd - if they are suffering from " unsustainable economic model" then can you explain me why they are probably the only country in western civilization living well and not living in austerity right now?
@p220394 A number of years past 2000 Sweden had the highest taxes in the world.....54%!!!!!!! LOL!!!
Much of their sucess can be attributed to classical liberal style ideas which promote peoples right to their own liberty. Why don't you at least give Austrian school of economics a chance. Why do you wish to enslave yourself? Civil liberties are everyones right not the governments, and most evil corporations come about BECAUSE OF BIG GOVERNMENT!! Buy local and support liberty, it feels great!
Dveialx10, "Mess" in a well known phrase "Don't mess with Texas" can be changed with another word if you like. I can think of several. In any case, I could probably better educate a brick and it have a more fulfilling experience to me. Before you embarrass yourself here any further and prove your ignorance, invest more time reading about the history of Texas. At least start your Texas education at the beginning of the 19th century. I will respond no further.
Dveialx10, We're are putting together the next manned spaceships now. We could sub-contract our spaceships, astronauts, ground control and space port if you wish to re-enter the manned space program. If not, you can put your shuttles back into service. They work good for LEO. The new ones we're building will get you In HEO as opposed to the shuttle. I cannot educate you. Texas has inherently grow since 1845 in a manner allowing us to secede at any time. We make the threat because we can secede.
Devialx10, you young? I would not call you stupid, just maybe ignorant. If you think you can dodge bullets on the bases here in Texas, come & get em! We give our unborn children's guns. They get real good with their aim by 10 to 15 yrs old. The US would not make it to a base, careless onto one. When the US purchased the latest F-22 Raptor air superiority fighter, we were happy to build them here in North Texas. Come and get what you think you can get away with. We'll just build new pretty ones.
@ShyWildBoy Wait... if texas were to secede hypothetically, they might be great at shooting and use as riflemen but wouldnt that not mean anything if the US just carpet bombed them? and also you guys couldnt fight of armed marines with professional training and state of the art armor/weaponry?
I support my country (Kingdom of Hawaii) re-establishing its sovereignty for the same reason that Texans want an independent republic. America was once mighty and just, but has slipped into socialism (tipping toward totalitarianism) social decay, and insurmountable debt. Let us have no part of it. Let us "jump ship" before the great whore falls and takes us down with her.
@808SoulJahxXx We support y'all out in Hawaii as well. All people everywhere should have the right of self-determination. What was done to the native people of Hawaii was certainly unjust. All the Southern nationalists and secessionists I know are sympathetic towards the Hawaii independence movement.
@808SoulJahxXx As a Texan, I want an independent Kingdom like you do more than a Republic.
People forget Kings weren't so bad. We fought WW1 to get rid of Wilhelm II of Germany and Otto I of Austria, and those two were the first German-speakers to seriously speak against Hitler, who enchanted the German masses. I hate "Valkyrie" cuz it failed to mention their ideology: all (Stauffenberg, Goerdeler, Ludwig Beck) were monarchists. People who believed in democracy took no action against Hitler.
@Cyrus255 Yes. Nothing wrong with having an actual monarchy where the king has actual authority unlike Britain's symbolic monarchy, though I would still support constitutional limits being imposed upon a monarch's authority (to prevent tyranny). Whatever form our governments should take, it ought to remember that the rights of men are endowed upon them by their creator, and that protecting those rights is the only true power a government should ever rightfully have.
@ImGonnaKillYou2nd Only if you believe that a man is not entitled to keep what is rightfully his and what he has rightfully earned, and that the government should regulate our lives because it's leaders supposedly know better than we the masses who elected them. I believe that the SOLE purpose of government is to protect the freedoms and inalienable GOD GIVEN rights of men (women) to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, whether it be in a Republic of Texas or a Kingdom of Hawaii.
Just saying... This is treason, and the United States will hold a grudge like Russia held one with the country of Georgia. I can't say this is the best thing for Texas right now. The debt may be huge but taxes will raise because Texas will have to just spend spend spend to get itself stable as a country. It will have to pay for an army, navy, airforce, and all of those things cost millions just to maintain, and yes, they are needed just to protect Texan borders. But... best of luck Texas.
@Devialx10 TX already spends a lot on the military to support its National Guard and pay for its share of the massive US military (it gets as much funding as all other militaries on earth combined). A free TX could spend less on military & be safe from attack. The US spends far too much on its military in order to fight 5 unnecessary wars at the same time & keep hundreds of thousands of troops stationed around the world.. TX would be better off & its people could keep more of their money.
@Devialx10 Good luck with your manned Space Program US! Oh, don't forget to disconnect your power grid from us. We don't need yours. We have our own thank you. Proof of that is right here all over the Net. Oh, we have a no-fly zone and we charge for the use of our air space and driving on our roads, using our rail lines and you are welcome to purchase all the oil you need, providing Mexico does not outbid you. You can buy the cars we build too. See ya! Wouldn't wanta be ya!
@Devialx10 You're missing the picture here. The US will need to pay back all of our Tax money that we Texans in good faith paid in. Oh wait, the IRS in this region is in Austin-never mind-we'll get you some of your money back-we'll just print you up some good old Texan dollars. I just guess we'll have to buy everyone guns. Wait, we already have that covered. I guess we will need to build an Air Force base or two or Three. Damnit, I can't get this right. We have those too. Never mind.
The Usa has raised the debt ceiling by 2 trillion only to cut it by 2 trillion in spending to lead us back to $ 14 trillion. I, don't know about the rest of you but does this make sense ?.
Lol this is all just talk talk, the governer of texas is even thinking of running for president, this shouldnt even be a real issue its all just stupidity
Independence of Texas? Without DC, Texas of today will be again what was in the past. A part of Mexico. Your economy will go down as all Central American economies.
@relu777 Why do you believe that? TX has lots of resources, a large population, fewer regulations and lower taxes. It is already bigger than Australia with a larger economy. Is Australia suffering because it's not part of the US Empire?
@RedShirtArmy Do you think that size and population is enough? Look at India. They have over 1 mld population and they have a immense land and they have resources and water and ports and so on. Where are they now? How is they economy?
When Texas will start to pay bills for its military, secret services, embassy locations and staff and so much other...your budget will fall as the US federal budget is falling now. This is happening all over western world. why? this is the globalization issue!
@relu777 Texas has an advanced economy - one of the most advanced in the world. Comparing them to India is laughable. As for Texas paying for its military and such, they already do that - they have a National Guard which would become their army. It's more than enough to protect them from invasion. Texas on its own probably wouldn't be involved in endless foreign wars like the US Empire, so its people would keep more of their money. I think TX would prosper without the meddling Feds.
here is where you wrong. you will be flooded with Chinese products, like the entire world is. and your business will be terminated. Your national guard have jet planes and carriers and helicopters and missiles and tanks divisions? or satellites? Try pay for this.
When I compared with India i did it in the population/resources way, telling you that this is not a factor who will give you success.
Also you will simply grow a new political class. And also Mexico want Texas. so...
@relu777 There is nothing wrong with Chinese products. The South has traditionally favoured free trade. I would recommend that you read anything by Bastiat, Mises or Rothbard to better understand economics. If your argument was valid then all nations smaller than the US would be impoverished. Actually many are thriving while the US continues to decline. Singapore, Hong Kong, Lichtenstein, etc. Tons of small countries thrive.
Nothing wrong with Chinese products? Man, where Texas wills sell their products? Can you make things cheaper then China?
Talk about small nations? Lichtenstein? Luxembourg? My friend, those countries does not have industry, agriculture, army, resources. They only have banking systems and some small industries like watches and jewelry. They are helped by France Germany and China
What salaries you will have if your products will be eliminated by Chinese items? You have 1-2 % growth
@ebjhs USA have issues. Wars are very expensive and they winners are the big corporations. The people is the one who lose here. Because they pay with blood and sufferings.
Anyway, USA MUST find a way to decrease the debt or all world will enter in a financial apocalypse. The first crisis was coming from USA. We all suffer because of US financial permissive laws. In Europe is hard to get a loan from the bank. The country growth based only on loans and consume is a killer. need a healthy system.
if they secded and became a country they would not survive. texas doesnt have nothing to trade to the world. the economy there isnt great i mean come on these leaders are so confused
@heckler171 Are you serious? Texas had the highest job growth rates in the US last year. As far as something to trade with the world, oil comes to mind immediately; not to mention the thriving computer and agriculture industry.
Look who's being a baby this time. Rather than sucking it up and dealing with it or doing something about it they would rather just completely do away with it. Chickening out or simply being to lazy to do anything themselves. So Texas go ahead and secede I can tell you now it is a stupid decision to make, and if you go through with it it will be a mistake and a huge failure. Your new "independence" wouldn't last long.
@highhoyoyo By sucking it up you mean continuing to endure a tyrannical, awful central government which destroys more of our freedom and prosperity every day? The only way to "deal with" DC is to be rid of it.
@RedShirtArmy No what I mean is that instead of being the "Big Bad Texans" you people claim to be and dealing with the problem you're turning your back to it just to create more problms. If you people actually were the superhumans you claim to be you would deal with D.C. not stick out your tongue and turn away.
@highhoyoyo There's no way to deal with DC. Texans are a minority in the US Congress. As such they are outvoted on every issue. There's not much Texans can do other than leave the Union. That would eliminate the problem.
@RedShirtArmy That doesnt eliminate the problem though. It just means you're going to turn a blind eye to it or let it be. If you truly had a point to make you would be able to convince other people and you could fix your "problem". Besides if Obama is what has you so down that problem will be over in a year or so. Most of this is hype and hysteria, thats why no one else really seems to be freaking out. Everybody thinks DC is communist because of Obama. I don't like him either but thats extreme.
@highhoyoyo You fail to see the nature of the situation. It's not Obama that is the problem, it's the US Federal Government. If one is ruled over by an empire which exploits it you don't go about trying to "fix" the empire which rules over you. You leave it. Secession is that process. We've had enough of DC. It's a miserable failure. It has been for some time and now it's becoming obvious to more and more people. It's time for self-determination. If you don't support it fine. But many do.
@RedShirtArmy Once more it's just a lot of hype and hysteria. The problem with this is that the answer you seek you already have. The South had pretty much the same feelings and they seceded from the Union started the Civil War and lost causing tremendous trouble for themselves. The answer lies with people. As much as you can call this an empire we do not have an emporer. People are in control and this government was the answer we found after war with Britain. Seccession is not the answer.
@RedShirtArmy That's all I'm trying to say. I understand and respect that feel ignored and powerless to federal government, but I just think you are going about that in a bad direction.
Riight...Texas has the 2nd highest GDP of any state in the Union, of nearly $1.2 trillion. Its GDP rivals even European nations. It has natural resources and a service industry, and has a large population that can sustain itself.
It is the Union that would lose if Texas lost. The entire GDP of the US would go down by 1/14 if it seceded.
@highhoyoyo haha and all the "facts" u are stating. they sound like they came from a sophmores history book. let me guess. u havent even picked up a history book since high school? give me ten bucks if im right.lol
@stuckinbabylon and texas is not "arrogant" or"full ofitself"
its a state.it has millions of ppl. your cant group allll of them in and say they are alllll full of themselves... ppl are not all the same asshole. what race r u? what state do u live in? tell me so i can make some generalized ignorant comments to throw at u for no reason.
Texas was it's own country in the mean time between the Mexican-American War and the answer to countering it. Texans are full of themselves too much. Pride is one thing, but what Texans have is arrogance. People argue that Texas can legally secede...it can't. No state can. It is treason. It was when America seceded from Britain, it was when the Confederacy seceded from the Union, it still is now. Texans get upset that government doesn't listen to people and that it pussyfoots around with its job
@highhoyoyo shut up.you are an idiot. you have none of the facts and your history is off too.
IF U DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT THAN SIT ON THE BENCH AND SHUT UP!! THE PPL IN THIS COUNTRY WHO WILL FORCE THEIR OPINIONS ON U WHEN THEY THEMSELVES HAVE NEVER EVEN READ A NEWSPAPER. its hilarious,.
@highhoyoyo oh yea and if we suck soooooo badd at being a self sustaining state than why is our economy doing better than most states in the u.s.? hmmm? why are there more new yorkers and californians in texas than there are texans? bc we know what the fuck were doing.
Texas loves to mention it was it's own state. What they don't tell you (probably because they don't know) is that IT WAS ONLY A NATION BECAUSE AMERICA DIDN'T WANT IT. The Texans never beat the Mexican Army in a war. America did. After the Alamo Americans died. America got angry and invaded Mexico City, took all of the western desert to the Pacific and granted Texas independence from Mexico. Texas wanted statehood, but America couldn't counter it with a no slave state.
Their economy would suffer because America probably won't like paying more money for the same oil or pay more for the same food because of tarrifs and exports/imports. That will hurt Texas. Texas also would suffer with it's military. Because everything Military in Texas including uniforms AND the current soldiers their belong to the U.S.A. and the federal government...NOT Texas. No doubt they could be self-sufficient, but they would become a worse place to live.
What Texans don't realize is that by seceding they will create more problems for themselves. They can't last as a country in today's modern world, or at least they won't be a modern nation of sorts. They will lose government funding. They will lose NASA and all of their military bases because both of those belong to the federal government. They will lose tourists and students coming from other states to go to college. They will likely lose on agriculture and oil trading.
Will the secessionist come together with people of Mexican American origin to achieve independent bi racial nation like some Mexicans did in the Alamo or will they kick them out?
It hurts no worse getting shot in the chest on a Main St. in Texas fighting for their Independence than it does getting shot in the chest in a village in Vietnam fighting for their Independence.
jajajaja Ron Paul said Texas secceded from England....wait a minute, oh sht I forgot most Anglos got here after Mexico opened up the border for Anglo settlements
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! I am Mexican and just sit here laughing my ass of at the so called "Texans" who now claim for an independence movement when their own so proud Texan founders almost all voted for joining the United States of America by a joint resolution...Face it, if it were not for Washington Texas would not stand as it does today.
So does your purchasing power and the worth of what your $ dollar $ is. Sink or swim ladies and gentleman. Washington is too big to fail is getting ready to FAIL.
The Texas people should consider to take this more seriously and vote for Secession before they try to pull us down with them.
Remember it's not just my future it's your children's children's future too.
The bank's are back at it again. There "Warning" Washington about it's 14.3 trillion dollar debt in there chance of defaulting on there debt. Downgrading there loan rating from sterling whatever the fuck that is. To god know's what if they don't raise the debt ceiling higher.
So here it is kid's your future is being held hostage by the big banking cartell's , beaucrat's in washington and the gangster's that run the IMF & big oil.
Better do something soon cause when the $ Dollar $ devaluates.
@XtremePancake1 but texas joined only for money and protection from mexico so i think we should have a choice also the goverment is taking all our resourses and giving nothing back including taking money from education so we should seccede
texas should seccede the condition the union put us in is just crapy they take from our funds so they can waste it on stupid wars in the middle east for oil so the i am loyal to
Yeah they don't like us flexing our muscle and showing that were independent thinking. Except for a few dirty politician's in are cabinet. Afraid to lose there power or control.
im there for you..i just heard about the TSA crap. HB 1938 if texas needs manpower just call we from your western brothers will be there side by side V for victory
@alfreddunn03 They keep putting up oil rig's all the time up out here. Utah is said to have plenty of oil as well. Although the problem with drilling oil here in the state's the way there doing it now there poisoning the water supply and turning some people's tap water into fire water with the gas getting into the water supply. Water is gonna be a valuable resource more then oil one of these day's. But yes we have plenty of oil reserves.
I would love to see a free Texas. It might just lead to a free Wyoming, a free New Hampshire, and a free Michigan. The Feds are out of answers, We the People have to fix this mess
Only a matter of time before that paper currency get's turned into toilet paper.
The Federal Banking System the biggest ponzi scheme ever invented to keep you trapped up to your eyeballs in debt. It's so simple you can pass the debt on to your future childrens children to keep the ball rolling.
@vespaman101 You are confusing anarchy with secession. Secession just happened recently in Sudan and not long before that in Serbia. It happens quite often. There are large secession movements in Canada, Europe, Africa, Asia, etc. Ultimately secession will prevail here too. People will only tolerate so much crap from DC - many of us dispise that awful imperial city.
@RedShirtArmy lol...no secession is not doing to happen here in America... people been talking about it for the longest time... and its not going to happen anytime soon.
@RedShirtArmy There's no large secession movement in Canada anymore. The Bloq Quebec just lost nearly all of its parliamentary seats in the last election. That said, I'm all for texas separating. I don't mean any offense by this, but it would really help the rest of the country.
@Mikeybetts If you think America is better off without Texas then stop bitching. Also America once belonged tp the British and America revolted, but now its treason right? Ironically its for the same reason. P.S. it seems we are very stupid especially having NASA in our great state, FUCK YOU. P.S.S I got around 2200 on my SAT
@RedShirtArmy the Canadian one is dying thou. no one really cares about their movement. Quebec just uses it as leverage to get what they want, they wont actually leave.
Liberate texas!Legalize and tax marijuana at street value.Not only would We will be able to maintain the state of texas.Tourism would skyrocket.Many americans who critisize texas would want to leave their state in the favor of texas.I like texas and the idea of secession is because the federal government is stripping us of our rights everyday and that is a scary prospect.They're not even honest about 911,Who's the real terrorist?
The whole idea of Texas splitting from the union has got to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard of; and I heard a lot of George W. Bush's speeches.
I'm for one am tired of being taxed endlessely while the goverment can afford to give billions and billions of our tax dollar's to foreign countries and to bail out big corperate american companies that do nothing more the profit by drowning us in debt. I'm tired of watching people lose there job's and there home's to these professional daylight robber's. If you don't stand against these thieve's you'll be there next victim and if not maybe a family member of yours.
You know, there would have to be some kind of way to prevent outsiders from coming in out of state to "vote" in Texas' referendum on secession..The reason why is that when Quebec tried to secede from Canada, people from all over Canada came to Quebec in order to interfere with Quebecs vote..There would have to be a way or means to prevent that same thing from happening here..That said, I wish there was a strong push for independence in Louisiana, then we could join Texas.
I would love to see Texas secede rom the union, and to take Louisiana with them..Louisiana used to be a Republic for a brief period of time anyway..I want my country back, and by that, I don't mean the American empire.
Texas should succeed. We are one of the few states that have every resource that are able to sustain the people within. We were our own country once, it may happen again one day.
Wow doubt that will ever happen. Keep dreaming it sounds nice but will never happen. Texas will never be independent. And if you don't like america just leave.
@sillywe That's very original. You sound like almost every dictator in history: "If you don't like it here leave." There's no reason we should have to leave our homes and culture in order to be free and rid of the awful government in Washington, DC. We should be able to govern ourselves without those parasites taxing us and regulating our every activity.
@RedShirtArmy you talk as if DC is where the tirants are and is the most awful city ... you see im not american but i know that texas is bush´s native land and texans love bush ... god have you looked at yourselves?? texas is the most fascist state with medieval mentality and the state that opresses the workers class where some rich guys with cowboy hat are in charge that still folows the bible like a fundamentalist state. and the death penalty is the worse of it all.
@RedShirtArmy Yeah, I take it having your tax dollars spent on a war that you didn't support and spending billions on RnD. Frankly the people working for those defense contracters are the real welfare babies, being payed high wages while contributing only to the suffering of others.
As far as the whole war on terror goes, all you need to keep terrorists out is good boarder security.
and its not that they don't like America, they dislike the federal government, which is very understandable due to the dumb mistakes they keep making by piling the people in debt and lying it in their own pockets.
Federal Bank... AHHahaha <- that's what they do behind your back
That's why you have typical Canadians like me rollin around up north because we would rather live in an igloo than deal with your government lol
@sillywe If Texas wanted to suceed I doubt the rest of the U.S would try to stop them. Remember this is the state that defeated Mexico, the costs would be too dear to try and stop Secession,
@sillywe Well let me explain something to you sir texas has a population of 39 million thats roughly a tenth of the population of the United States, Thats just what it is to the United States its not America anymore. It is not what the forefathers wanted for us. The reason we know this is because it is just the reason the forefathers placed a secession clause in the Constitution.
@lalunalita Yes and No. If Perry thinks he can secede so he can own slaves, it will never happen. Many Southerners simply do not understand how damaging racism has been to THEIR interests. Everytime we try to assert our states' rights, racism is brought into the picture and undermines beneficial policies.
I say we stay in the union so we can help lead our brothers and sisters in other states out of their ignorance and to a magnificent future.
@smuuuuuuuth Perry's motive is strickley political. I, don't know where you get this idea it has to do with slavery that there are people in Texas. Who would like to seceede from an imperfect union. This has nothing to do with going back to the Old Jim Crow Law's either.
This is over a goverment that has not listened nor done what they are suppose to or have been charged to do. The beaucrat's are curropt and so is the goverment. If you haven't noticed were swimming in debt up to our eyeballs
@XtremePancake1 You oppose the right to self-determination, independence & liberty then? You would have made an excellent RedCoat in the Revolutionary War!
When is Texas going to secede?
DremordDrale 1 day ago
Free for Texas !!!
3456687807 6 days ago
if you do become a country what are you going to get out of it
quatlego 1 week ago
Independent TEXAS.!!!!!
shahzadazulfiqar1 2 weeks ago
It is NEVER EVER EVER going to happen without a bloody revolution. So unless you are prepared to get shot in the fucking face by the US Govt. Please stop with this secession BS. Most Americans wont even get off their fat asses to go vote, let alone fight the US Govt. You assclowns...get real...stop the mental mastrubation.
malangsob 1 month ago
@malangsob So you are arguing that the US gov't violently opposes self-determination and the principles of the Declaration of Independence?
RedShirtArmy 1 month ago
@RedShirtArmy My point is that most people do not fully understand what they are insinuating. The immense nature of their thought. You are a tax paying head...along with 30+ million other Texans. Those are big dollars, not to mention resources, infrastructure and CORPORATE interest. Texas is a large slice of the pie. The Feds will correct the problem quickly. That is why, IF or when anyone decides to proceeed thought, with action it WILL be dealt with.
So IOW..fantasy. Will, NEVER EVER happen
malangsob 1 month ago
I think you would need a better Governer than Rick perry before you split off. That guy is a tool. He may talk alot of shit but he has to many connections to washington to actually do what he says. Get rid of him and you would have a much better chance.
SyringeCycle 1 month ago
I was born in Dallas but I didn't have the opportunity to grow up there. In fact I only lived a couple months before my family moved out. I've lived in Michigan for the past 9 years, I'm of Asian decent and I am a proud libertarian Ron Paul supporter who is sick of the federal government and the statist mindset that heavily resides where I'm around. If Texas ever does succeed I'm getting the fuck out of this Federal Union as soon as I can.
krustykelvin 1 month ago
@krustykelvin Texas would be proud to have you home brother.
TexianPride 3 weeks ago
Independence For TEXAS !!!!!!
marcelo1975argentina 1 month ago
all the countries should be one big and free ¡¡
VIVA ESPAÑA VIVA USA ¡¡
20spanish 2 months ago
GOD BLESS THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS!
FROM MEXICO
205857 2 months ago
it texas leaves then we should take new mexico and louisiana with us
they are practically texas
Myworthlessaccount 3 months ago
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I apologize if anyone is from any of these states or happen to love these states, as I don't mean any offense to anyone, but I'm actually fine with Texas seceding. If they do secede, which I hope they do, I hope they take Alaska, Arizona, Oklahoma, some of the far-right backwater areas of the USA, the entire Tea Party, Fox News, far-right talk radio show hosts & all far-right conservatives & republicans with them
TheMultioscarwinner 3 months ago
The Feds don't tax Chuck Norris, Chuck Norris taxes the Feds!
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@ZePwner350 chuck norris doesnt pay taxes he sends a picture of himself to the irs
Myworthlessaccount 3 months ago
A referendum for secession is coming. Ultimately its up to the Will of the People. If the People of Texas want to be independent and feel it is the only way they can have a representative government, then they will do it and all the power of any government will not be able to stop them. Remember your John Locke. It's all about the Will of the people. Personally I think the referendum will fail, but it is coming.
joebombero1 3 months ago
God, I hope they become independent! They have what they need to survive, and as a matter of fact, could do even better without being under the federal thumb.
Bulldogcollins43 3 months ago
You know, we wouldn't miss you anyway.
Alcofoamer 3 months ago
@IanCFC19
hey buddy, you know what happened last time america had a financial crisis? THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD FELT IT!
america is a superpower, so what happens to them effects the whole world, and if america collapses because of fuck-heads like rick perry and michelle bachmann, then the world will turn to russia and china.
so yes, i'm a foreigner who butts in to american issues because it effects us over here as well!
Mikeybetts 3 months ago
Will be glad to take Arizona with us. Tho I'm sure the Arizona people will want to remain apart of the USA. Arizona is doing what arizona is suppose to do fight for its state rights like texas is only to find washington thumbing there noses at them. Those that don't want secession. I, hope you enjoy bailing europe out as it will cost the tax payers for this as well. You can thank the banking system for all of this.
donjuandonjuan 3 months ago
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Getting rid of the Redneck State of Texas would be great for USA !
SuperThe86 4 months ago
do i need to remind all you folks about WACO..............a slaughter by the FEDS
pleximars 4 months ago
I do not hold a grudge against America for what it did to my kingdom (Hawaii) generations ago, no American alive is responsible for that. I have always wanted to see America live up to her promise to be the beacon of freedom, and right it's past wrongs. Alas, she has done the opposite. Increasing government control through socialist tyranny, and destroyed our economy through what I feel is a deliberate increase of the national debt. Independence equals survival to us.
808SoulJahxXx 4 months ago
I want to set the record straight so that there is no misunderstanding. We who want independence do not hate America, nor the principle of individual God given freedom for which America is supposed to stand. We simply believe that America no longer stands for such an ideal, and there is no other political solutions to the problem as we also feel betrayed by the political parties that we elect to represent us.
808SoulJahxXx 4 months ago
Good luck with your independence!....everybody deserves the chance to govern themselves..
raindancer39 4 months ago
If I was living in Texas then hell yes for independence.
v19d 4 months ago
Texas is a shithole. Please dumb this waste of space. Allow secession.
deadizle 4 months ago
GOOGLE: 'perry politifact secession truth'
dospesentas 4 months ago
im confused, everyones saying how much they hate the goverment and how they wish to be free and all, but no one seems to be doing mcuh. just do it or dont. dont sit around sayign how upset it makes you on youtube, either do it, stop paying your taxes, stop saluting the flag, stop calling yourselves members the U.S. or dont. you all seem real eager, but all this is is a choice, either choose to do this thing or dont. stop tlakign about it and choose.
arksnark 5 months ago
I'm from Houston and I support Texas independence, 3000gtgomez7 you said that Texas would belong to a Mexican drug lord, but last time I checked we beat Mexico in a war when they had and army much larger than our own and still won our independence I'd like to see a Mexican drug lord try to take over Texas I have no idea how you came up with that theory. Also if Texas were to have Secession & Independence I doubt the U.S. would be able to afford a civil war with the economy the way it is now.
adam15087 5 months ago
In one month Texas would belong to a drug lord and the new illegals (Texans) would be trying to cross the border to the USA. All those guns we are sending to Mexico will be used to slaughter and possibly wipe out the lonestar state. What a stupid thought I can't believe it came out of a college graduate. What does he think we can do without and army. The USA would then invade oil rich texas to stop the weapons of mass distruction.
3000gtgomez7 5 months ago
@3000gtgomez7 Why do you make such horrible predictions. Texans would better protect their border without the Feds holding them back on that issue. TX wouldn't have the Feds' taxes, regulations, restrictions, etc. that hurt its economy and liberty of its people.
RedShirtArmy 5 months ago 15
@RedShirtArmy Yes, I know y'all Texans got guns as well as faith in God, and would never let the drug lords take over the way they did south of your border. So true that you would know better how to secure your border than bureaucrats a thousand miles away in Washington DC.
808SoulJahxXx 4 months ago
@3000gtgomez7 You are silly. Texas can take care of itsself.!
meetman57 4 months ago
@3000gtgomez7 well i really want to Texas be free. You deserved it since 1836, Mexicans we wont conquer you again, may we could be the one first country in recognaize you as a free country. You are great and just u won one battle against us, but wat a important battle was.
Mexico and I support Texas Independence, may also the rest of the CSA.
STILL I THINK U SHOULD GET AN OWN ARMY.
charlynedved99 2 months ago
guys let me tell you, also Mexico has secession problems, Baja California north and south, Sonora want to form their republics, also Coahuila, Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas are plainning to secede from Mexico and form the republic of Rio Grande, with that possibilities, you could form alliances with that new republics to confront obvious two dangers: USA fury or Mexico vengueance.
btw Yucatan, Campeche, Quintana Roo want also a Republic. May they invite Tabasco.
charlynedved99 2 months ago
@3000gtgomez7 Los Rinches closed the border as needed from 1836 till current pols decided the wet-back vote trumped Texan's rights...We (the rednecks) could shut the border down in 24 hrs-and have a damned fine time doing it.
338dav 6 days ago
you americans are the most ridiculous people on earth... socialism in the US?? LOOOL do you even know what is socialism to start with? lets see socialism defends a huge or big participation of the state in all economic structures. does that happen in america? NO ... your problem is exactly the opposite you should have more controll by the state. in fact this crisis started with the markets in george w bush regime where some stupids defended free markets and economy from the state
p220394 5 months ago
@p220394 We should have more control by the state? At least you are honest about your desire for less freedom and more government intervention and control over your life. I don't understand that sort of slavish mentality and how anyone can hate freedom - very strange. As for Bush, he was not a free markets advocate. He was for crony capitalism where the government picks and chooses winners and intervenes in the market to achieve its own political ends. That's not a free market.
RedShirtArmy 5 months ago 5
@RedShirtArmy dont you see that a more participative government and state over the economy doesnt mean a less free country?lets see some examples in europe for example: Sweden. Sweden is a country where the state controlls a lot of the economy ( there is free markets and economic sectors though) and where you walk in to a hospital and get almost free healthcare ... this are some examples. and when the crisis broke they werent affected. because they arent dominated by the unstable markets
p220394 5 months ago
@p220394 The "free healthcare" is paid for with a very high tax rate - it's not free. Sweden also suffers from a demographic decline & unsustainable economic model - both of these have been encouraged by government intervention. In healthier times the Swedes has a growing population, no Third World immigration, a much freer market and they were a strong power in the world. I don't think your example holds up. Very soon the Swedes may pass from this Earth, sadly, such is their demographic plight.
RedShirtArmy 5 months ago 6
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@RedShirtArmy where do you get your arguments?wikipedia? man wtf?"Sweden also suffers from a demographic decline & unsustainable economic model - both of these have been encouraged by government intervention".1st - they are demographically growing ( they have the highest birth-rate in the world) 2nd - if they are suffering from " unsustainable economic model" then can you explain me why they are probably the only country in western civilization living well and not living in austerity right now?
p220394 5 months ago
@RedShirtArmy The faster the Swedes pass, though, the better. Bunch of Christian-haters, is what I think.
MontChevalier 3 months ago
@p220394 A number of years past 2000 Sweden had the highest taxes in the world.....54%!!!!!!! LOL!!!
Much of their sucess can be attributed to classical liberal style ideas which promote peoples right to their own liberty. Why don't you at least give Austrian school of economics a chance. Why do you wish to enslave yourself? Civil liberties are everyones right not the governments, and most evil corporations come about BECAUSE OF BIG GOVERNMENT!! Buy local and support liberty, it feels great!
TreeSmoke1999 2 months ago
Dveialx10, "Mess" in a well known phrase "Don't mess with Texas" can be changed with another word if you like. I can think of several. In any case, I could probably better educate a brick and it have a more fulfilling experience to me. Before you embarrass yourself here any further and prove your ignorance, invest more time reading about the history of Texas. At least start your Texas education at the beginning of the 19th century. I will respond no further.
ShyWildBoy 5 months ago
Dveialx10, We're are putting together the next manned spaceships now. We could sub-contract our spaceships, astronauts, ground control and space port if you wish to re-enter the manned space program. If not, you can put your shuttles back into service. They work good for LEO. The new ones we're building will get you In HEO as opposed to the shuttle. I cannot educate you. Texas has inherently grow since 1845 in a manner allowing us to secede at any time. We make the threat because we can secede.
ShyWildBoy 5 months ago
Devialx10, you young? I would not call you stupid, just maybe ignorant. If you think you can dodge bullets on the bases here in Texas, come & get em! We give our unborn children's guns. They get real good with their aim by 10 to 15 yrs old. The US would not make it to a base, careless onto one. When the US purchased the latest F-22 Raptor air superiority fighter, we were happy to build them here in North Texas. Come and get what you think you can get away with. We'll just build new pretty ones.
ShyWildBoy 5 months ago
@ShyWildBoy Wait... if texas were to secede hypothetically, they might be great at shooting and use as riflemen but wouldnt that not mean anything if the US just carpet bombed them? and also you guys couldnt fight of armed marines with professional training and state of the art armor/weaponry?
PossiblyAsian 5 months ago
Our President today said there's nothing wrong with this country.
O' Really !?!.
Guess who ain't living out on the street !.
donjuandonjuan 5 months ago
I support my country (Kingdom of Hawaii) re-establishing its sovereignty for the same reason that Texans want an independent republic. America was once mighty and just, but has slipped into socialism (tipping toward totalitarianism) social decay, and insurmountable debt. Let us have no part of it. Let us "jump ship" before the great whore falls and takes us down with her.
808SoulJahxXx 5 months ago 4
@808SoulJahxXx We support y'all out in Hawaii as well. All people everywhere should have the right of self-determination. What was done to the native people of Hawaii was certainly unjust. All the Southern nationalists and secessionists I know are sympathetic towards the Hawaii independence movement.
RedShirtArmy 5 months ago 9
@RedShirtArmy Aloha and solidarity my friend :)
808SoulJahxXx 5 months ago
@808SoulJahxXx Absolutely! Thank you.
RedShirtArmy 5 months ago
@808SoulJahxXx As a Texan, I want an independent Kingdom like you do more than a Republic.
People forget Kings weren't so bad. We fought WW1 to get rid of Wilhelm II of Germany and Otto I of Austria, and those two were the first German-speakers to seriously speak against Hitler, who enchanted the German masses. I hate "Valkyrie" cuz it failed to mention their ideology: all (Stauffenberg, Goerdeler, Ludwig Beck) were monarchists. People who believed in democracy took no action against Hitler.
Cyrus255 4 months ago
@Cyrus255 Yes. Nothing wrong with having an actual monarchy where the king has actual authority unlike Britain's symbolic monarchy, though I would still support constitutional limits being imposed upon a monarch's authority (to prevent tyranny). Whatever form our governments should take, it ought to remember that the rights of men are endowed upon them by their creator, and that protecting those rights is the only true power a government should ever rightfully have.
808SoulJahxXx 4 months ago
@808SoulJahxXx socialism is not that bad.
ImGonnaKillYou2nd 4 months ago
@ImGonnaKillYou2nd Only if you believe that a man is not entitled to keep what is rightfully his and what he has rightfully earned, and that the government should regulate our lives because it's leaders supposedly know better than we the masses who elected them. I believe that the SOLE purpose of government is to protect the freedoms and inalienable GOD GIVEN rights of men (women) to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, whether it be in a Republic of Texas or a Kingdom of Hawaii.
808SoulJahxXx 4 months ago
@808SoulJahxXx its not a government system its economic. anyway if Texas becomes Independent(it wont) i hope take Arizona with them.
ImGonnaKillYou2nd 4 months ago
Just saying... This is treason, and the United States will hold a grudge like Russia held one with the country of Georgia. I can't say this is the best thing for Texas right now. The debt may be huge but taxes will raise because Texas will have to just spend spend spend to get itself stable as a country. It will have to pay for an army, navy, airforce, and all of those things cost millions just to maintain, and yes, they are needed just to protect Texan borders. But... best of luck Texas.
Devialx10 5 months ago
@Devialx10 TX already spends a lot on the military to support its National Guard and pay for its share of the massive US military (it gets as much funding as all other militaries on earth combined). A free TX could spend less on military & be safe from attack. The US spends far too much on its military in order to fight 5 unnecessary wars at the same time & keep hundreds of thousands of troops stationed around the world.. TX would be better off & its people could keep more of their money.
RedShirtArmy 5 months ago 3
@Devialx10 Good luck with your manned Space Program US! Oh, don't forget to disconnect your power grid from us. We don't need yours. We have our own thank you. Proof of that is right here all over the Net. Oh, we have a no-fly zone and we charge for the use of our air space and driving on our roads, using our rail lines and you are welcome to purchase all the oil you need, providing Mexico does not outbid you. You can buy the cars we build too. See ya! Wouldn't wanta be ya!
ShyWildBoy 5 months ago
@Devialx10 You're missing the picture here. The US will need to pay back all of our Tax money that we Texans in good faith paid in. Oh wait, the IRS in this region is in Austin-never mind-we'll get you some of your money back-we'll just print you up some good old Texan dollars. I just guess we'll have to buy everyone guns. Wait, we already have that covered. I guess we will need to build an Air Force base or two or Three. Damnit, I can't get this right. We have those too. Never mind.
ShyWildBoy 5 months ago
@ShyWildBoy The Air Force bases will be pointless when the United States pulls all of the planes out. Once again, best of luck.
Devialx10 5 months ago
The Usa has raised the debt ceiling by 2 trillion only to cut it by 2 trillion in spending to lead us back to $ 14 trillion. I, don't know about the rest of you but does this make sense ?.
Texas Secession Now !.
donjuandonjuan 5 months ago
Although it is illegal, I support a Texan Republic.
dave19941000 6 months ago
Lol this is all just talk talk, the governer of texas is even thinking of running for president, this shouldnt even be a real issue its all just stupidity
AdamFromDownStreet 6 months ago
@AdamFromDownStreet You're right that the gov. is all talk. He should have led the state to secede long ago. Texas has suffered enough Federal abuse.
RedShirtArmy 6 months ago
Independence of Texas? Without DC, Texas of today will be again what was in the past. A part of Mexico. Your economy will go down as all Central American economies.
relu777 6 months ago
@relu777 Why do you believe that? TX has lots of resources, a large population, fewer regulations and lower taxes. It is already bigger than Australia with a larger economy. Is Australia suffering because it's not part of the US Empire?
RedShirtArmy 6 months ago
@RedShirtArmy Do you think that size and population is enough? Look at India. They have over 1 mld population and they have a immense land and they have resources and water and ports and so on. Where are they now? How is they economy?
When Texas will start to pay bills for its military, secret services, embassy locations and staff and so much other...your budget will fall as the US federal budget is falling now. This is happening all over western world. why? this is the globalization issue!
relu777 6 months ago
@relu777 Texas has an advanced economy - one of the most advanced in the world. Comparing them to India is laughable. As for Texas paying for its military and such, they already do that - they have a National Guard which would become their army. It's more than enough to protect them from invasion. Texas on its own probably wouldn't be involved in endless foreign wars like the US Empire, so its people would keep more of their money. I think TX would prosper without the meddling Feds.
RedShirtArmy 6 months ago
@RedShirtArmy
here is where you wrong. you will be flooded with Chinese products, like the entire world is. and your business will be terminated. Your national guard have jet planes and carriers and helicopters and missiles and tanks divisions? or satellites? Try pay for this.
When I compared with India i did it in the population/resources way, telling you that this is not a factor who will give you success.
Also you will simply grow a new political class. And also Mexico want Texas. so...
relu777 6 months ago
@relu777 There is nothing wrong with Chinese products. The South has traditionally favoured free trade. I would recommend that you read anything by Bastiat, Mises or Rothbard to better understand economics. If your argument was valid then all nations smaller than the US would be impoverished. Actually many are thriving while the US continues to decline. Singapore, Hong Kong, Lichtenstein, etc. Tons of small countries thrive.
RedShirtArmy 6 months ago
@RedShirtArmy
Nothing wrong with Chinese products? Man, where Texas wills sell their products? Can you make things cheaper then China?
Talk about small nations? Lichtenstein? Luxembourg? My friend, those countries does not have industry, agriculture, army, resources. They only have banking systems and some small industries like watches and jewelry. They are helped by France Germany and China
What salaries you will have if your products will be eliminated by Chinese items? You have 1-2 % growth
relu777 6 months ago
@relu777 I belive we would hit a trillion in debt but that is nothing compared to the USA debt
ebjhs 6 months ago
@ebjhs USA have issues. Wars are very expensive and they winners are the big corporations. The people is the one who lose here. Because they pay with blood and sufferings.
Anyway, USA MUST find a way to decrease the debt or all world will enter in a financial apocalypse. The first crisis was coming from USA. We all suffer because of US financial permissive laws. In Europe is hard to get a loan from the bank. The country growth based only on loans and consume is a killer. need a healthy system.
relu777 6 months ago
They are thinking that having oil and being stupid is all you need for good way of life...
tranmere789 6 months ago
@tranmere789 They are thinking they want to be free & they've had enough with DC's meddling, wars, regulations, taxes, etc.
RedShirtArmy 6 months ago
if they secded and became a country they would not survive. texas doesnt have nothing to trade to the world. the economy there isnt great i mean come on these leaders are so confused
heckler171 6 months ago
@heckler171 Are you serious? Texas had the highest job growth rates in the US last year. As far as something to trade with the world, oil comes to mind immediately; not to mention the thriving computer and agriculture industry.
Ladyroundrock 5 months ago
America might slpit into three parts.
heckler171 6 months ago
"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely think they are free"
brainerdrebel 6 months ago
Nice video,I really don't want Texas to succeed but I understand,I'm sick of banging my head against the wall as well.
USAdude30 6 months ago
Look who's being a baby this time. Rather than sucking it up and dealing with it or doing something about it they would rather just completely do away with it. Chickening out or simply being to lazy to do anything themselves. So Texas go ahead and secede I can tell you now it is a stupid decision to make, and if you go through with it it will be a mistake and a huge failure. Your new "independence" wouldn't last long.
highhoyoyo 6 months ago
@highhoyoyo By sucking it up you mean continuing to endure a tyrannical, awful central government which destroys more of our freedom and prosperity every day? The only way to "deal with" DC is to be rid of it.
RedShirtArmy 6 months ago
@RedShirtArmy No what I mean is that instead of being the "Big Bad Texans" you people claim to be and dealing with the problem you're turning your back to it just to create more problms. If you people actually were the superhumans you claim to be you would deal with D.C. not stick out your tongue and turn away.
highhoyoyo 6 months ago
@highhoyoyo There's no way to deal with DC. Texans are a minority in the US Congress. As such they are outvoted on every issue. There's not much Texans can do other than leave the Union. That would eliminate the problem.
RedShirtArmy 6 months ago
@RedShirtArmy That doesnt eliminate the problem though. It just means you're going to turn a blind eye to it or let it be. If you truly had a point to make you would be able to convince other people and you could fix your "problem". Besides if Obama is what has you so down that problem will be over in a year or so. Most of this is hype and hysteria, thats why no one else really seems to be freaking out. Everybody thinks DC is communist because of Obama. I don't like him either but thats extreme.
highhoyoyo 6 months ago
@highhoyoyo You fail to see the nature of the situation. It's not Obama that is the problem, it's the US Federal Government. If one is ruled over by an empire which exploits it you don't go about trying to "fix" the empire which rules over you. You leave it. Secession is that process. We've had enough of DC. It's a miserable failure. It has been for some time and now it's becoming obvious to more and more people. It's time for self-determination. If you don't support it fine. But many do.
RedShirtArmy 6 months ago
@RedShirtArmy Once more it's just a lot of hype and hysteria. The problem with this is that the answer you seek you already have. The South had pretty much the same feelings and they seceded from the Union started the Civil War and lost causing tremendous trouble for themselves. The answer lies with people. As much as you can call this an empire we do not have an emporer. People are in control and this government was the answer we found after war with Britain. Seccession is not the answer.
highhoyoyo 6 months ago
@RedShirtArmy That's all I'm trying to say. I understand and respect that feel ignored and powerless to federal government, but I just think you are going about that in a bad direction.
highhoyoyo 6 months ago
@highhoyoyo
Riight...Texas has the 2nd highest GDP of any state in the Union, of nearly $1.2 trillion. Its GDP rivals even European nations. It has natural resources and a service industry, and has a large population that can sustain itself.
It is the Union that would lose if Texas lost. The entire GDP of the US would go down by 1/14 if it seceded.
chaosbringer127 6 months ago
@highhoyoyo haha and all the "facts" u are stating. they sound like they came from a sophmores history book. let me guess. u havent even picked up a history book since high school? give me ten bucks if im right.lol
stuckinbabylon 6 months ago
@stuckinbabylon and texas is not "arrogant" or"full ofitself"
its a state.it has millions of ppl. your cant group allll of them in and say they are alllll full of themselves... ppl are not all the same asshole. what race r u? what state do u live in? tell me so i can make some generalized ignorant comments to throw at u for no reason.
stuckinbabylon 6 months ago
Texas was it's own country in the mean time between the Mexican-American War and the answer to countering it. Texans are full of themselves too much. Pride is one thing, but what Texans have is arrogance. People argue that Texas can legally secede...it can't. No state can. It is treason. It was when America seceded from Britain, it was when the Confederacy seceded from the Union, it still is now. Texans get upset that government doesn't listen to people and that it pussyfoots around with its job
highhoyoyo 6 months ago
@highhoyoyo shut up.you are an idiot. you have none of the facts and your history is off too.
IF U DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT THAN SIT ON THE BENCH AND SHUT UP!! THE PPL IN THIS COUNTRY WHO WILL FORCE THEIR OPINIONS ON U WHEN THEY THEMSELVES HAVE NEVER EVEN READ A NEWSPAPER. its hilarious,.
stuckinbabylon 6 months ago
@highhoyoyo oh yea and if we suck soooooo badd at being a self sustaining state than why is our economy doing better than most states in the u.s.? hmmm? why are there more new yorkers and californians in texas than there are texans? bc we know what the fuck were doing.
and your just a pussy.
stuckinbabylon 6 months ago
Texas loves to mention it was it's own state. What they don't tell you (probably because they don't know) is that IT WAS ONLY A NATION BECAUSE AMERICA DIDN'T WANT IT. The Texans never beat the Mexican Army in a war. America did. After the Alamo Americans died. America got angry and invaded Mexico City, took all of the western desert to the Pacific and granted Texas independence from Mexico. Texas wanted statehood, but America couldn't counter it with a no slave state.
highhoyoyo 6 months ago
Their economy would suffer because America probably won't like paying more money for the same oil or pay more for the same food because of tarrifs and exports/imports. That will hurt Texas. Texas also would suffer with it's military. Because everything Military in Texas including uniforms AND the current soldiers their belong to the U.S.A. and the federal government...NOT Texas. No doubt they could be self-sufficient, but they would become a worse place to live.
highhoyoyo 6 months ago
What Texans don't realize is that by seceding they will create more problems for themselves. They can't last as a country in today's modern world, or at least they won't be a modern nation of sorts. They will lose government funding. They will lose NASA and all of their military bases because both of those belong to the federal government. They will lose tourists and students coming from other states to go to college. They will likely lose on agriculture and oil trading.
highhoyoyo 6 months ago
Will the secessionist come together with people of Mexican American origin to achieve independent bi racial nation like some Mexicans did in the Alamo or will they kick them out?
xxDanielTM93xx 6 months ago
@XtremePancake1 Watch us! And take notes!
YouGottaSeeThis101 7 months ago
And don't give me were gonna go back to Mexico bull shit.
These land's were not stolen they were lost by Aristocrat's in control of mexico.
Like anything that destroy's a country. Greed , Lust for Power & Curroption the bane of any country. Like Mexico or the Usa.
United we stand divided we fall yea well a house divided against it self doesn't stand very well either.
With as many history teacher's that teach history we have yet learned from anything from any great empire before us that came.
donjuandonjuan 7 months ago
Try losing your home vs getting shot.
I'd rather get shot then lose my home to this economic BS.
A friend of mine just lost there's cause of this BS.
What was it August , September i'm getting old. The dollar is on it's way out there not smart enough to back the currency by gold.
Belgium is already having a Secessionist movement going on it's country and it's preparing to split into 2 countries.
It only took greed , politician's and bunch of bank's with oil to do all this.
donjuandonjuan 7 months ago
It hurts no worse getting shot in the chest on a Main St. in Texas fighting for their Independence than it does getting shot in the chest in a village in Vietnam fighting for their Independence.
meetman57 7 months ago
jajajaja Ron Paul said Texas secceded from England....wait a minute, oh sht I forgot most Anglos got here after Mexico opened up the border for Anglo settlements
milmillones7 7 months ago
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! I am Mexican and just sit here laughing my ass of at the so called "Texans" who now claim for an independence movement when their own so proud Texan founders almost all voted for joining the United States of America by a joint resolution...Face it, if it were not for Washington Texas would not stand as it does today.
milmillones7 7 months ago
@milmillones7 Woopty do your Mexican. What does that make you a Historian.
donjuandonjuan 7 months ago
@donjuandonjuan no smartass, I am just an educated person.
milmillones7 7 months ago
@milmillones7 O could of fooled me.
donjuandonjuan 7 months ago
@donjuandonjuan Hows about we just wait to see what happens?
milmillones7 7 months ago
So does your purchasing power and the worth of what your $ dollar $ is. Sink or swim ladies and gentleman. Washington is too big to fail is getting ready to FAIL.
The Texas people should consider to take this more seriously and vote for Secession before they try to pull us down with them.
Remember it's not just my future it's your children's children's future too.
Support the Republic of Texas !.
donjuandonjuan 7 months ago
The bank's are back at it again. There "Warning" Washington about it's 14.3 trillion dollar debt in there chance of defaulting on there debt. Downgrading there loan rating from sterling whatever the fuck that is. To god know's what if they don't raise the debt ceiling higher.
So here it is kid's your future is being held hostage by the big banking cartell's , beaucrat's in washington and the gangster's that run the IMF & big oil.
Better do something soon cause when the $ Dollar $ devaluates.
donjuandonjuan 7 months ago
@XtremePancake1 but texas joined only for money and protection from mexico so i think we should have a choice also the goverment is taking all our resourses and giving nothing back including taking money from education so we should seccede
Birdboy281 8 months ago
texas should seccede the condition the union put us in is just crapy they take from our funds so they can waste it on stupid wars in the middle east for oil so the i am loyal to
THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS!!!
Birdboy281 8 months ago
Yeah they don't like us flexing our muscle and showing that were independent thinking. Except for a few dirty politician's in are cabinet. Afraid to lose there power or control.
donjuandonjuan 8 months ago
im there for you..i just heard about the TSA crap. HB 1938 if texas needs manpower just call we from your western brothers will be there side by side V for victory
gpuckit 8 months ago
Does Texas still have plenty of oil reserves?...it would be a very wealthy nation..
alfreddunn03 8 months ago
@alfreddunn03 They keep putting up oil rig's all the time up out here. Utah is said to have plenty of oil as well. Although the problem with drilling oil here in the state's the way there doing it now there poisoning the water supply and turning some people's tap water into fire water with the gas getting into the water supply. Water is gonna be a valuable resource more then oil one of these day's. But yes we have plenty of oil reserves.
donjuandonjuan 8 months ago
@XtremePancake1
while I don't tink TX will do it... When they joined the Union Tx had a clause that said they could leave the union at any time they wanted..
So from a legal stand point they actually could if they wanted..
Joshua2019 8 months ago
I would love to see a free Texas. It might just lead to a free Wyoming, a free New Hampshire, and a free Michigan. The Feds are out of answers, We the People have to fix this mess
flythegadsden 8 months ago
Another reason for secession. Paying for the road's you drive on twice.
You pay at the pump. Prepare to pay to drive by the mile.
That's right ladies and gentleman soon it will be the shoe's you wear and how much tread is worn from it.
Your freedom is being stripped slowly and quitely by the monster in washington.
So how much longer are we willing to take this ?. Year's , month's , day's , decade's perhap's ?.
It's your childeren's future that's on the line.
donjuandonjuan 8 months ago
This video speaks the Truth...
I would vote for secession in a heart-beat.
vidkidxyz 8 months ago
i support Texas independence
exitre 9 months ago 13
@XtremePancake1 i think it can beacause look at the civil war all those states were in the us and they seceded
oblivionmods1 9 months ago
Only a matter of time before that paper currency get's turned into toilet paper.
The Federal Banking System the biggest ponzi scheme ever invented to keep you trapped up to your eyeballs in debt. It's so simple you can pass the debt on to your future childrens children to keep the ball rolling.
The Real Terrorist's the Banking Cartell.
donjuandonjuan 10 months ago
@bucklee34 and they wonder why were broke. Here have a few more billion lol. Let's tax them some more.
donjuandonjuan 10 months ago
Some people have no idea what crappy conditions they would be in without a government... secession is not going to happy ANY TIME SOON.
vespaman101 10 months ago
@vespaman101 You are confusing anarchy with secession. Secession just happened recently in Sudan and not long before that in Serbia. It happens quite often. There are large secession movements in Canada, Europe, Africa, Asia, etc. Ultimately secession will prevail here too. People will only tolerate so much crap from DC - many of us dispise that awful imperial city.
RedShirtArmy 10 months ago 21
@RedShirtArmy lol...no secession is not doing to happen here in America... people been talking about it for the longest time... and its not going to happen anytime soon.
vespaman101 10 months ago
@RedShirtArmy
And, you are confusing a voluntary anarcho-capitalist society with Somalia! Don't get me wrong, I'm in favour of Texas seceding!
rebelq1 8 months ago
@RedShirtArmy There's no large secession movement in Canada anymore. The Bloq Quebec just lost nearly all of its parliamentary seats in the last election. That said, I'm all for texas separating. I don't mean any offense by this, but it would really help the rest of the country.
PUMKINMANforever 7 months ago
@RedShirtArmy
you forget, secession usually leads to civil war.
anyway, Texas has the biggest debt of any state and comes dead last in anything educational except bible studies.
and last i checked, bible studies doesn't teach you shit.
i think america would be better off without Texas and those other redneck states.
Mikeybetts 5 months ago
@Mikeybetts If you think America is better off without Texas then stop bitching. Also America once belonged tp the British and America revolted, but now its treason right? Ironically its for the same reason. P.S. it seems we are very stupid especially having NASA in our great state, FUCK YOU. P.S.S I got around 2200 on my SAT
DannyTheFluff 5 months ago
@RedShirtArmy the Canadian one is dying thou. no one really cares about their movement. Quebec just uses it as leverage to get what they want, they wont actually leave.
PossiblyAsian 5 months ago
Liberate texas!Legalize and tax marijuana at street value.Not only would We will be able to maintain the state of texas.Tourism would skyrocket.Many americans who critisize texas would want to leave their state in the favor of texas.I like texas and the idea of secession is because the federal government is stripping us of our rights everyday and that is a scary prospect.They're not even honest about 911,Who's the real terrorist?
condemned13 10 months ago
The whole idea of Texas splitting from the union has got to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard of; and I heard a lot of George W. Bush's speeches.
john12892 10 months ago
Please, get lost! The electoral math will be beautiful . . .
sutircomed 10 months ago
Texas independence!
Audiomuse 11 months ago
@XtremePancake1 so, do you live here (in texas?)
the general consensus around here is for the government to butt out and fuck off.
if succession does that; i'll be on the frontline defending my rights
hitlerscow 11 months ago
@XtremePancake1 Every states right to leave,
Colton8646 11 months ago
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Secession is the only way to keep freedom.
truckstopcowboy 11 months ago
I'm for one am tired of being taxed endlessely while the goverment can afford to give billions and billions of our tax dollar's to foreign countries and to bail out big corperate american companies that do nothing more the profit by drowning us in debt. I'm tired of watching people lose there job's and there home's to these professional daylight robber's. If you don't stand against these thieve's you'll be there next victim and if not maybe a family member of yours.
Support Texas Secession !
donjuandonjuan 11 months ago
You know, there would have to be some kind of way to prevent outsiders from coming in out of state to "vote" in Texas' referendum on secession..The reason why is that when Quebec tried to secede from Canada, people from all over Canada came to Quebec in order to interfere with Quebecs vote..There would have to be a way or means to prevent that same thing from happening here..That said, I wish there was a strong push for independence in Louisiana, then we could join Texas.
TheFeralFury 11 months ago
I would love to see Texas secede rom the union, and to take Louisiana with them..Louisiana used to be a Republic for a brief period of time anyway..I want my country back, and by that, I don't mean the American empire.
TheFeralFury 11 months ago
Us Alaskans got your back Texas.
eskimobronco 11 months ago
btw he,s right about USA, EU is same as USA, altough were not they,re yet.
FryNorth 11 months ago
Texas is best US state anyway.!
FryNorth 11 months ago
the way Washington is spending and how fast we are economically crashing, secession is gonna happen!
expo2000000 11 months ago
Fuck all the bullshit texas rules motherfuckers
popomaniac1 11 months ago
Texas should succeed. We are one of the few states that have every resource that are able to sustain the people within. We were our own country once, it may happen again one day.
systemisdisturbed 11 months ago
Wow doubt that will ever happen. Keep dreaming it sounds nice but will never happen. Texas will never be independent. And if you don't like america just leave.
sillywe 1 year ago
@sillywe That's very original. You sound like almost every dictator in history: "If you don't like it here leave." There's no reason we should have to leave our homes and culture in order to be free and rid of the awful government in Washington, DC. We should be able to govern ourselves without those parasites taxing us and regulating our every activity.
RedShirtArmy 1 year ago 11
@RedShirtArmy you talk as if DC is where the tirants are and is the most awful city ... you see im not american but i know that texas is bush´s native land and texans love bush ... god have you looked at yourselves?? texas is the most fascist state with medieval mentality and the state that opresses the workers class where some rich guys with cowboy hat are in charge that still folows the bible like a fundamentalist state. and the death penalty is the worse of it all.
p220394 9 months ago
@p220394 Bush was not born in Texas both of them. It can't be his native land. He may live here but that's about it.
donjuandonjuan 9 months ago
@RedShirtArmy Yeah, I take it having your tax dollars spent on a war that you didn't support and spending billions on RnD. Frankly the people working for those defense contracters are the real welfare babies, being payed high wages while contributing only to the suffering of others.
As far as the whole war on terror goes, all you need to keep terrorists out is good boarder security.
AlternateArtisan 8 months ago
@sillywe
well it happened in case you missed history class
lol
and its not that they don't like America, they dislike the federal government, which is very understandable due to the dumb mistakes they keep making by piling the people in debt and lying it in their own pockets.
Federal Bank... AHHahaha <- that's what they do behind your back
That's why you have typical Canadians like me rollin around up north because we would rather live in an igloo than deal with your government lol
GO TEXAS
zephur6788 11 months ago
@sillywe If Texas wanted to suceed I doubt the rest of the U.S would try to stop them. Remember this is the state that defeated Mexico, the costs would be too dear to try and stop Secession,
Colton8646 11 months ago
@sillywe Well let me explain something to you sir texas has a population of 39 million thats roughly a tenth of the population of the United States, Thats just what it is to the United States its not America anymore. It is not what the forefathers wanted for us. The reason we know this is because it is just the reason the forefathers placed a secession clause in the Constitution.
bossman030877 11 months ago
@XtremePancake1 Texas has the right to secede peacefully and so does any state of the U.S.
lalunalita 1 year ago
@lalunalita Yes and No. If Perry thinks he can secede so he can own slaves, it will never happen. Many Southerners simply do not understand how damaging racism has been to THEIR interests. Everytime we try to assert our states' rights, racism is brought into the picture and undermines beneficial policies.
I say we stay in the union so we can help lead our brothers and sisters in other states out of their ignorance and to a magnificent future.
Hook 'em Horns!
smuuuuuuuth 11 months ago
@smuuuuuuuth Perry's motive is strickley political. I, don't know where you get this idea it has to do with slavery that there are people in Texas. Who would like to seceede from an imperfect union. This has nothing to do with going back to the Old Jim Crow Law's either.
This is over a goverment that has not listened nor done what they are suppose to or have been charged to do. The beaucrat's are curropt and so is the goverment. If you haven't noticed were swimming in debt up to our eyeballs
donjuandonjuan 11 months ago
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IF YOU ARE A TEXAN SUBSCRIBE I BET TEXAS CAN GET 1MIL Subs before any other state!! Come on fellow TEXANS!
TEXAS1MILSUBS1st 1 year ago
and they call it "united states" eh
sk8THC 1 year ago
@XtremePancake1 You oppose the right to self-determination, independence & liberty then? You would have made an excellent RedCoat in the Revolutionary War!
RedShirtArmy 1 year ago
@RedShirtArmy
lmaooo
xtreme got owneeeed
zephur6788 11 months ago
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@RedShirtArmy i agree we should have that right
Birdboy281 8 months ago
@RedShirtArmy i agree we should have the right to fend for our selves that is what our country is found on
Birdboy281 8 months ago