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  • What about the movie "the awful truth", have you seen it?

  • @meerkatlibrarian Yes I have seen it Olivia, Lord Christopher Monckton asked Al Gore to discuss it with him but Mr Gore denies him and discussion. Who knows what the truth is?

  • @Jordmate True or not, we still need to reduce our waste and recycle more. Also, you look strange with a beard lol

  • cooll!!!

  • I have been fairly patient and open minded, but enough is enough.

    When people who ARE NOT Scientists start shooting their mouth off about complex climate physics with fundamentalist religious overtones I get a little pissed off !

    If you have NO credentials, "Shut up" your twisting of the facts disturbs me.

    Religion continues to try to murder science and scientists.

  • Except it wasn't signed by the major world powers! Your video worked!!!

  • @cchanderson - Yea ... gee I do have some clout ;P

  • Why do we still have to argue about that... :( is it 1984 yet? Do we agree that in the real world the cause always comes before the effect? CO2 levels follow temperature in about 800 years delay (because of the huge amount of water, that takes so long to heaten up) What was 800 years ago? Oh yeah, greenland was green, they used to make wine up to northern europe... so why do you believe global warming is caused by humans? 2 + 2 = 5?

  • That's really interesting. Great to hear from you MagicBoy

  • Thank you, but bow that I reread my comment, it looks too aggressive to me^^ That came probably out of the feeling of despair from being part of a minority if I point out obvious contradictions in the global warming theory. It would be ironic if this topic wasn't of such importance.

  • Great to hear your thoughts Magic Boy. All the best.

  • Moronic people:

    The northern Hemisphere winter, is STILL affecting the world NOW.

    In the Southern Hemisphere, Summer is hiting hard droughts in Rio Grande, close to Uruguay and 48º C temperatures in RIO.

    Get out of hibernation !!!

  • jOAO, Interesting weather patterns. Thanks for your comment

  • There is no such thing as a good tax.

  • You are so right!

  • spreckt ....and I have no intentions of letting Rudd force me to pay for the air that I breath, through his ETS!

    What a fucking con it's turned out to be, just like the Copenhagen Meeting.

  • *slaps forehead* well buddy, I know you're all smart and stuff and obviously much more knowledgeable than both the AAAS and the NAS which have recently stated that global warming is obviously real and we are the ones causing it!!

  • Well its hard to get a 100% consensus. Sometimes agendas can be one-sided.

  • Very interesting subject and angle.

    : )

  • Yea, thanks for y our interesting comment Mate. We do need to investigate the different angles. Great to hear from you my friend.

  • This is serious, but i doubt it would put any real, instaneous change throughout the world the copenhagen treaty and Lord Monckton seems to have questionable credentials at best so i'm not sure how credible of and expert he is. It just seems that with the people of Kiribas scared that they might not have a home left in the following years, global warming seems to much of threat not to be taken seriously.

  • You are right this is serious. Thanks for your comment Jamie.

  • Tony Abbott was caught flat out lieing by Tony Jones the other night. He had clipped full paragraphs from a laboritory, to twist the comment and have it support his position that Global Warming does not exist, Jones had the full documents from the lab, and read them out, it was almost hard to watch, Abbott being caught out so badly, he then immediatly changed the subject, this is typicult of most of the deniers, they edit text then pass it around to people as if it a fantastic find.

  • What you are saying is noce, but says nothing about climate change. All the UEA emails prove is that there is no global conspiracy of scientists and governments colluding to destroy US jobs. They can't even organise their haircuts, let alone a conspiracy !

  • Good point!

  • Yes the media is filtered, mainly for profit and political reasons, as is vertually every other part of life, almost everybody is attempting to get their own way.

    The internet has proven to be incredibly inacurate. The problem is there is no SPELLCHECK, no EDITOR, nothing, anybody can write anything and it seems people will believe it, even if there are no supporting documents at all.

    DO NOT trust what you read, yt especially is unbelievable in the amount of bullshit.

  • Jord Mate, I'm really sorry, but this has been bugging me. I respect that you have a different point of view to me, but chances are one of us is very wrong.

    @0:14 you said "Climate change is not affecting the World as we know it" I think that is a bit of a tall statement AT BEST.

    I take it that you have not been to the Arctic recently?

    We are VERY much being affectes right now. The actual argument claimed is wether its a natural cycle or man made, not IF it exists, big difference.

  • It is a big difference. Thanks for you interesting opinion

  • Pt4. found her, was infact a paediatrician!, she stated on camera that she knew absolutly nothing of Climatology and had NEVER made those statements or even been contacted to made a quote, she was just a little surprised! this bound independant study was fully paid for by oil, who have the most to loose with clean energy and electric cars. Be EXTREMLY carefull who you listen to in life! Talk back radio hosts and lord christopher are not scientists!

    YES GW is VERY real.

  • Pt3. anies of the world believe otherwise and yet none of them have any scientific credentials at all (isn't that interesting). A few years ago we even caught a group of petrolium companies funding a false study into GW, that concluded it did not exist, when we tracked each of the quoted scientists down, it was very interesting to find that none except one had even made the comments (the one who did has his Lab funded by Oil) the most interesting of all wa a senior Climatologist, who when we...

  • Con't. Every one of abots statements were in fact not only taking out of context but edited to change their actual intended meaning by the auther and instead suite Abotts oppinion. The unedited version of each passage says the exact opposite and infact states that GW is a very real threat.

    Nasa believe this position, as do well over 400 of the worlds best scientists, yet talk back radio hosts, Lord Christopher, Abott, wilson tucky and many others, most prominent of all, the Coal and Oil comp..

  • I thort of you after having a conversation with a friend on this.

    When you believe a Global warming skeptic, you are taking the word of someone who usually has no scientific background and often vested interest in something like brown coal power.

    If your aussi, you may have seen Tony Abbott make a fool of himself on the ABC with Tony Jones, Abott had cherry picked passages from a laboritory to suit his anti GW position, Tony Jones had researched all the full statements and had them on hand....

  • Global warming is bogus, buts its making a lot of money for me and my cronies.

  • Its an interesting argument on both sides

  • To late Richard Kevins got the vote and he's going to sign it were well and truly fucked!

  • Sorry m8 another site for ya, wattsupwiththatdot com he was the guy that broke the news

  • @ager74

    Here Mr. Scientist, a little video that pretty much sums up my position on the rubbish you are passing of to people as fact.

    watch?v=fdKVr5fy-Dg

  • "Climate Change Bombshell: Dr. Tim Ball on the hacked CRU emails", slap this into google m8 as the internal searches on youtube dont seem to pull it up lol, strange !!!!

  • This would have to be actioned by Google??? and other search providers.

  • One more for you m8, Dr Tim Ball retired Climatologist, says "this is not a smoking gun, but is a battery of machine guns", check him out on the corbett report, they cant surpress it much longer surely.

  • The Hadley centre seem to not be deniying that the mails are theirs but there seems to be caution by the msm to if the mails were added to prior to release on the net. This process will probably hold publication in the msm, very nicely, one indicator of this is Wales was flooded in the uk and the msm didnt attribute it to climate change looool, which shows they are sat on the fence rather than like before, where 2 inches of rain would have attributed to climate change.

  • No doubt the media will surpress this story as much as possible as the government build up pace to the Copenhagen treaty, but they are too l8 as the bloogers are going crazy over this, some msm have covered it gaurdian for instance is a good place to source for the links, but it seems this could be the cat, amongst the pidgeons lol

  • I do get worried a how press and information does seem to be filtered. Thank goodness for the Internet and instant communication.

  • Hello m8, the story of the Hack at hadley cru centre in uk, is all over the blogsphere, msm havent covered much as of yet, and what they have covered they are putting a nice government spin on it. As you know Lord Monckton, has refuted it, so has Dr David Bellamy, and also the Natural History Museum in London say that they dont support global warming, but the e'mails from Hadley are all over the net. The alarming thing is why the msm are not covering this as a main story?, to inform the people.

  • I forgot to mention Lord Christopher is a Catholic, you might remember the history of the catholic Church and their habbit of murdering anyone who questioned the accepted oppinion of the World, like it being flat and the Sun orbiting us, research what these bastards tryed to do to my hero Capernicus, fucking murdering scum. Now they are telling people in Africa that Condoms will not protect you from Aids. Big fat moneymaking scam: Cathlic Church

  • Them theres fighting words Chris ;)

    I can see your point.

  • @Jordmate ,

    Sorry, I get a bit grumpy, sometimes its hard to soar like an Eagle when your surrounded by Turkeys LOL

    I've had a gut full lately of conspiracy whackjobs trying to suck other people into their twisted view of reality. Gee if the guy on talk back radio says it, it must be true!!!!, how many times do we have to catch these guys out bullshiting before people will stop being so dam gulible?

    "Chemtrails" what the fuck next ;(

  • I look mainly at air quality issues, and data says we are in deep shit and that cars and industry are the main culprits, i have had 20 yaers off my life supporting RD in renewables and clean car technology, only to find that vested interests will do anything to protect their profits, not naming any names: Coal, Nulclear, its all about money.

    You might like to ask why children are diagnosed with asthma now at a rate that has NEVER been seen before

  • Yes, I agree and that is why I am so against diagnosing a child as asthmatic without first looking at their environment and diet.

  • @Jordmate ,

    I have an associate who worked with the EPA doing air samples in Melbourne, he returned results that, if taken in a workplace, all occupants would have to wear respirators by OHS law.

    Petrolchemicals are a well known severe lung irritant, especially in children.

    Overall global air quality is decreasing, co2 concentration increasing, not making an effort to do anything about it is EXTREMLY dangerous NASA et el. We must use cleaner transport, power generation, industry.

  • I whole-heartily agree, we must use cleaner power, immediately and earnestly.

  • @Jordmate , Thanks, I hope that doesný mean nuclear?

    I've had half my life promoting Renewable energy and am very very very tired of fighting, I couldn't help get $24k for a scientist from ANU to build a Solar Thermal demonstrator in Whyalla salt fields, the same year the coal industry was gien $220Mil for RD in clean coal. Now we have Nuclear claiming its emissions free, which is a complete lie, iterestingly almost every climate change skeptic expert is pro nuclear! Mmm....

  • Er. This would be the Lord Monckton, former "special advisor" to Margaret Thatcher, the heridary peer who, armed with only degrees in journalism and classics, is qualified to talk on climate change ? The hardcore Catholic, Fox news "contributor" and designer of a plan to "quarantine" 3 million US HIV positive in special "camps".

    You need a more credible source. He's regarded as a nutcase in the UK and even the sleeze media won't touch him.

  • @ToothbrushMan , Bloody hell!, I knew he was bad, but that last part about Aids victims takes the cake, I would like to follow that up.

  • These days I stay away from whether global warming is an issue or not because its not a good use of my time, BUT, Nasa thinks its a serious threat, especially when Co2 reaches 400ppm, Lord Christopher has no science training whatsoever, yet puts his oppinion against some of the best climatologists on the planet, anybody can throw mud. Lord Christopher is very pro Nuclear, and I will place a bet that he has a very large share portfolio in Uranium companies, people seem to have forgotten!

  • Dont have it aussies, breaking story hacked e'mail account of world leading uk climate scientists caught red handed fudging the climate figures lol google it

  • @ager74

    I have been unable to find your referance, can you please place a thread here.

  • fight the good fight!

  • We can only try. Thanks for your comment Michele.

  • Interesting

  • And thought provoking. What's your deliberation?

  • Demand the furtherance of American

    eugenics through comprehensive

    legislation! Abortion is our birthright!

  • first treaties are BS you loss your rights every time one is signed. there spining all sides against the middle. take all the BS out and your left with. WHY ICE MELTS. " now for the first time in the history of mankind! There is radioactive fallout in the ice cores" this stuff is real bad news for mankind!! get ed. on it, but hold on to your seat your in for a ride. These rich air heads did it and, now there taking your money. Because that's what they do! Scott (BUG)

  • Thanks for the heads up Scott. I'm not happy with the direction the world is taking.

  • dude great vid. love your cat pic.. This world makes me sad too.bro. This is all coming out of Geneva. The World Bank, ICCP,CERN WHO UN NATO ect. it's the hub of this NWO bs lie's. Scott (BUG)

  • You seem to have a handle on this stuff Scott. I have just found the sad sad news. But its comforting to know you're on the good side.

  • Global Warming is the biggest scam I had ever seen.

  • It's just so ironic. I mean the big businesses want to make loads of money so that the heads of the companies can live the most rich and lavish lifestyle you could ever imagine. But in the process of doing this they are in fact ruining their chances of having a glorious future, because it won't be worth living if climate change scars the Earth. It's just so ironic.

  • @believersunderground

    For fucks sake, this guy is a Moron, go look at what he is into, "Chemtrails" I would be REALLY interested to hear what your science credentials are!!!!!!

    STOP TAKING DRUGS DICKHEAD!

    Don't come here and claim shit you have no idea about, "Ice core samples with radioactive fallout" what the fuck are you talking about, did you get that from one of you crazy nwo websites, your full of shit, it DOES NOT EXIST!

  • Global cooling (an imminent ice-age)

    was predicted in the 1970's.

  • These prdictions are scary and should be heeded. Thanks for your comment buddy.

  • @Asparagusville There was never a consensus on global cooling. It was fringe science that happened to receive attention in the mainstream press. Global warming has been mainstream science since the 1950s.

  • The imminent ice-age was big news in the early 1970's, over-shadowed naturally by Watergate. The "scientists" who pedaled the global-cooling agenda now pedal the global-warming agenda.

  • @Asparagusville I know. In the mainstream press. If you look at the peer-reviewed papers published during that time period in scientific journals you would see that it was nothing but fringe science. Over 50% of PR articles from the 70s predicted global warming.

  • What exactly is it that qualifies a Thatcher hack like Monckton to opine about anthrocentric climate change?

  • It's not just Monckton, but many other people fear this global problem. Watch as Alex Jones and his team track the elusive Bilderberg Group to Ottawa and Istanbul to document their secret summits, allowing you to witness global kingpins setting the world's agenda and instigating World War III.

  • I think we all fear the same thing... but where you're seeing a climate change conspiracy as the catalyst for "kingpins setting the world's agenda and instigating World War III"

    I see the richest corporations as the kingpins, ignoring the destruction of our habitat to avoid a loss of profit.

  • Lord Monckton is funding the distribution in British schools of the film, "The Great Global Warming Swindle," as part of a "counter-campaign to undermine the scientific consensus on climate change." This film is currently being investigated for claims from two of the scientists who took part "that the editing gave a misleading impression of critical data and their own viewpoints."

    Do a web search for the Swindle debunking.

    Rely on CREDIBLE experts - NASA, NAS, AAAS, and others.

  • I do not take the view one way or the other that the "Global warming critics" are wrong or the knockers need to get their facts straight. I believe open and honest discussion is the most important conclusion to this worldwide dilemma!

  • Yes but relevant opinions are reserved for those with a mastery of the subject material...

    You don't take a majority poll of the streets of new york for a theory in physics

    Why would you do the same for climatology?

    Listen to the people that know what they're talking about!

  • @Jordmate

    Its not wheter Global wormong is real or not, it is those in governments around the world are doing to tke advantage of this for thier own purposes. That is wha is scaring me.

  • global warming my ass!

  • no your ass is local.

  • @GrassEating ..that almost made sense!..lmao!...try & convince people of global warming in the upper midwest in winter.....

  • Would me succeeding or failing to convince them change the facts?

  • @GrassEating absolutly not,...they r sheep,..they will do what there told......there r 1 in 100 who know what is really going on,sounds like we r in the minority....thats ok....i have a plan,they wont b able 2 find me when the SHTF!!!

  • great, now they are going to put catalytic converters on weedwackers and chainsaws.

  • LOL, that's an interesting concept!

  • governments all around the World are organized to commit errors - just like this one.

  • It does seem like there is a problem. Thanks for your comment.

  • U.S. President Barack Obama and other world leaders on Sunday supported delaying a legally binding climate pact until 2010 or even later, but European negotiators said the move did not imply weaker action.

  • As well as the main part of the scientific community and media, well..... it seams like many people are organizing with the sole purpose to commit an error. Or are they?

  • Thank you Sir.

  • Don't you think this is just a step towards Globalism?

  • That's what I'm affraid of.

  • Lol it's funny that people believe there is a thing such as man made climate change but i guess people would rather a chenobl in Australia.

  • Yea I suppose you've got a point there mate. It is funny what people think

  • Global warming is happening mate. Only thing is, is that its not being caused by us humans.

  • We humans do need to be responsible, but the planet has a lot of resilience

  • Yea it is caused by the atmosphere, not the humans. Somebody should tell the atmosphere to change back its gas composition to normal levels.....

    Not humans. Not the humans

  • Nah, its not caused by the atmosphere either.

  • What exactly would you define as "normal Atmosphere gas composition levels"?

  • Of carbon dioxide? In the age of mammals?

    3.5 parts per million

    It's increasing by 0.05% each year right now, but if the polar ice melts it will jump to around 5 PPM, as they were frozen when there was much more CO2.

  • ~ 300 ppm carbon dioxide

  • A global carbon tax is a total scam. Only the new world order could pull off a scam to tax the carbon cycle, and the idiot public suck it down like koolaid. This gives them total regulatory control of almost every aspect of our lives and they will micromanage it. This bill is another death knell for national sovereignty and once we're in it, we won't be let out. Wake up people!

  • You seem to have summarized it neatly. I appreciate your comment.

  • We are in a cooling phase, geoengineering is maintaining temperatures above seasonal in populated areas.

  • Interesting comment.

  • They do many things to keep us running around so we don't look at what is really going on.

  • Hiden agendas, don't you think.

  • John, thanks heaps for your positive encouragement I highly appreciate it. Greetings from Melbourne Australia!

  • do u know around what year barbados will go underwater??

  • Great work

  • Thanks heaps for your positive response, much appreciated.

  • You guys don't understand the implications of a warming Earth...

    If it warms up enough for the arctic to melt it will release the carbon dioxide trapped at the time it froze, and at the time it froze there was about twice the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

    For now, we're only increasing the carbon composition by 0.5% a year, but if all that arctic carbon dioxide releases, it will increase by 25%, enough to warm the earth several degrees, enough to destroy most farmable land

  • I agree with all the people concerned about the nature of the earth and how it is being used inappropriately, we must curtail this immediately. And just as urgently we must change the way Governments want to change the world into a one world government.

  • monkey, look up the behaviour of the earths icesheets over many million years, and you will see that melting permafrost is nothing unusual, and that it certainly isnt "manmade".

    you should also know that co2 is a trace gas that in itself produces VERY little warming, and it also follows a logarithm, meaning the more Co2 there is, the less warming it produces.

  • Over a million of years yes, the melting is natural.

    Over a hundred years no.

    CO2 produces significant warming, enough to increase the temperature per/moisture level, driving more water vapor into the air producing even more warming.

    There's not a lot of debate left on if global warming is man made... it's down to around 5% of the scientific community... similar percentages to those that believe the Earth is 5000 years old.

  • Monkeydumbball - What you state is a LIE.

    Do some research - CO2 does not cause temp change, its a product of it. CO2 is a natural gas that makes possible all living things on the planet. Man's production of it is less than .05% of all CO2. And the TOTAL CO2 make up of atmosphere is less than 3%. Do the math. And your rediculus statement about the earth being 5000 yrs old....please. But you go ahead with your religion. 30,000 scienetists are suing the GW religion and your god, AlGore. Idiot.

  • It's 5% not .05%

    The .05% figure is the increasing concentration annually.

    I'm not religious... you misread

  • Oh and another thing Monkeydumbshit, more water vapor in the air produces MORE CLOUDS, thus reflecting the sun's energy back into space. Net effect? COOLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Do you realize how really stupid you sound?U have no science background at all and it shows....Someone that clueless could only be working for the Government. Well? do you? I bet you do.

  • Water vapor is actually responsible for most of the heat on the Earths surface... but I'm not going to argue with children

  • like they listen to there people..

  • Pauly, You are right ... but it is better to spread the word than sit back in silence

  • I should grow one of those things on my face too.  You look cool mate!

  • Gary, your superb good looks dont need any help. Great to hear from ya mate!

  • I hope there is global warming in my home this winter. I am tired of the high heating bills.

  • You might need to ask the wife to knit you a nice warm jumper.

  • It's warming up here but it sure isn't a global issue, just spoke to my cousin in Ireland, he says they didn't even have a summer this year and it hasn't stopped raining.

  • Ha you are so right Sammi, it is a bit like Melbourne ... if you don't like the weather; just wait five minutes (it changes from good to bad in only a few minutes). Nice to hear from you sweetie.

  • lol we tend to rain quite a lot and Summer from May-July usually is either raining or cloudy, August-Mid October usually are sunny however August this year was unfortunately was pure rain but its not really a surprise to be honest

  • Every summer we have a heat wave, 36C+ ( up to 45C some days) for 10 - 20 days in a row, normally this is in January, so having it happen in November is early but not an unusual weather pattern for this part of the world. I would be more inclined to believe the seasons are changing rather than global warming.

  • 45Degrees? wow we get like 28 at best and that makes us melt and yeah I will agree on that its more the seasons changing than global warming

  • -explodes spray paint can- TAKE THAT AL-GORE!!!!!!!!

  • Ryan, you are correct in Al Gore should check his research ... Very funny with the spray paint can!

  • Hey whats up with the goatee. It looks pretty cool. The global warming thing has gone way to far. I think its been the vehicle for the far left folks to push us around. Ill check out the link you mentioned. Great video by the way

    Mike

  • I want a billion dollars...

  • Ha ha, yea me too ... but I think it wont mean much if this Copenhagen treaty gets signed. But it's great to hear from you Miguel.

  • Short Simple and to the Point!  Thsnks! 5 stars

  • Thanks heaps Dallas, its a big issue so the more we say the better.

  • finally someone says it like it is. To say that WE (humans) are going to destroy this earth is to say that God isn't God. HE said that HE would be the one to destroy it. By fire. And not the kind of fire that Global Warming alarmists are talking about. Anyway, you look totally badass with the beard/goatee man. :) Happy day bro!

  • Global Warming alarmists and sceptics are at loggerheads about this serious issue :(

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