You spend $50 on just one Cantonese book, your language budget must be astronomical considering you probably collect the books on every language, correct me if I'm wrong. Well, I'm not complaining, I'm not much better. What do the psychiatrists call us anyway? Obsessive-compulsive or what? And I'm still up in the middle of the night working on Rukai.
actually my bad. the lë is more like a "leh" . I just pronounce it in a non-standard way cus that's how my parents would speak (actually I might be using a different particle, but in any case, that's the standard pronunciation).
The lë sound is more like a "luh" schwa-ish sound, but you should keep it up in speaking as much as possible. I have an older version of this book, but now that the characters are here... I should pick this up. Thanks for informing me.
BTW, you should've pointed out which characters are the "Cantonese" ones the "m" instead of the "bu" negation or the "lei" instead of "lai" (to come)
my relationship with mandarin isn't going so great after we took the next step. we started writing, but she wants me to touch her characters more. i'm deathly afraid of the characters: i don't know how they work! how do i get over my fear of her characters so i can please her?
@marekiller8 I'm not trying to be a dick or start an argument or anything, but I just wanted to mention that I can't help but imagine someone killing a bunch of female horses everytime I see your username. Not a very fitting name for a vegan. ;)
This is like an interactive grammar book, I love these type. The examples seem to take prevalence over the explanations. I think I'm going to check out the version for Japanese. ありがとうモーゼ！。
@kazoopilot if you are going to be in chinatown in manhattan, learn cantonese. if you want to speak to chinese people still living in china/taiwan, learn mandarin. mandarin is more 'useful' for business, but there seem to be more cantonese speakers in the US and Canada.
@kazoopilot I'm not sure what your definition of ''useful'' is since everyone has their own definition of this. To me, if you're living here in the U.S. you can't go wrong learning either or. There are so many native speakers of both languages here.
@GoSuMonSteR I don't believe in animal ownership, but I live with a Panda Oranda that my Grandmother had bought. Considering I already have him contained for the rest of his life, I just try to give him the best life possible. Other than that, at least one mouse, a good few cockroaches, and one or two houseflies (sometimes a mosquito here and there) live alongside me. Sometimes I feed the house mouse a cracker or nut, but the other critters usually get by very well.
@marekiller8 Well in my opinion, if you own a pet you're contributing to millions of animals being abused and killed. When people buy pets (no matter how well they take care of their own) other animals are cruelly treated and housed in the worst possible conditions in order to keep up with demand. And because people want "cute little puppies" they are responsible for millions of dog and other "domesticated animal" deaths every year. So when you say shit like "murdered poultry"...
@GoSuMonSteR Ignorance is bliss. Now reread the comment I wrote and quote me on the exact sentence in which I stated I bought the fish. My grandmother bought the poor creature, Mr.Intelligence unlimited. And if you actually do care about the horrible pet industry, which I can only imagine, for humanity's sake, you do, you would be a hypocrite not to be vegetarian or vegan. So are you?
@marekiller8 You missed my point. Mr. or Mrs. intelligence. I was simply pointing out that if you are against animal cruelty then you should be against everything involving animals. Which includes clothing, pets, food and drink, etc. Why are you not yelling at your grandmother? And I am against animals suffering needlessly, but I do realize people need to eat. I assume you're a vegan. I am not, because I'm not fortunate enough to live in an area where food is always readily available.
@marekiller8 And the pet industry and food industry are two completely different things. Pets are acquired for peoples own selfish reasons. Food is a necessity. Now, treating animals humanely up until the time they are going to be killed for consumption, that's a completely different issue.
@GoSuMonSteR Where you live food isn't readily available? I'd love to go to a place where people have enough luck to have working electricity and internet along with a laptop/computer but not enough food to suffice for a diet of vegetables. Sounds gorgeous. You obviously can't obtain anything that is vegetarian, and you've never eaten a plant in your life, as your whole diet consists of meat. You're excused! Personally, I would rather starve to death than kill a sentient being for my own wants.
@GoSuMonSteR Meat is a need, eh? Really? REALLY? I never quite knew that. Its just like how child molestation is a need because its a form of sex, a need, or how drinking human blood is a need, because it replaces your natural need to drink. Or how slaughtering trillions of sentient beings a year while housing most of them in a pen not large enough to sit down in and letting them live in their own shit and then sending a steel rod through their head or slitting their throats is a need.
@GoSuMonSteR If you would like to do wrong then I suppose it is your choice. I would not know what to say if you murdered someone as I do not know what to say now. But if you would not kill a child, you should not kill an equally worthy animal. Just know what you are doing is wrong. It is your choice, ultimately, but what you can't decide is whether its right or not.
@GoSuMonSteR No, they won't care. Not the slightest bit. But hey, humans are lucky. We have no natural predators because of our isolation form nature and are natural vegetarians. So I'm pretty sure if I knew a tad about wilderness survival I could survive with my dignity and shame intact. But saying we shouldn't care about animals because they don't care about us is ignoring the whole point of morality and ethics. We do right oblivious to whether our fellow beings do it also.
@marekiller8 We're not natural vegetarians, that's a lie. Vegan propaganda. We're omnivores, our closes primate relatives are omnivores. But as if that matters. There are humans who can't have Vegan diets; documented.
@GoSuMonSteR Humans who can't have vegan diets? Elaborate because biologically this makes no sense at all. I've spent far too much time in the past arguing our natural vegetarianism so I'm not so excited to enter another debate on it; I'll just leave you and Google to figure something out. Honestly, though, if any animal in the world could see that we called ourselves natural meat-eaters, Earth would shake with laughter. Humans are honestly pathetic.
@GoSuMonSteR Humans who can't have vegan diets? Elaborate because biologically this makes no sense at all. I've spent far too much time in the past arguing our natural vegetarianism so I'm not so excited to enter another debate on it; I'll just leave you and Google to figure something out. Honestly, though, if any animal in the world could see that we called ourselves natural meat-eaters, Earth would shake with laughter. Humans are honestly pathetic.
@marekiller8 Lol As if you were the authority on what's right and correct. And as if Google were the proper place to research these things. You wouldn't have a good time as a biologist as well, because we have to kill animals to study them, otherwise we learn nothing about life. Human's since we branched off from earlier primates have eaten insects, animals, and plant matter to sustain ourselves. We're not Cows or Gorillas who are specifically designed to eat plants.
@GoSuMonSteR Humans are not designed to eat meat and that's all that matters. I have a compelling argument against meat-eating so if you want to hear it message me. Too long to explain here, but if you heard it, you wouldn't find it absurd in the slightest to claim that meat-eating at its nicest is malevolent.
@marekiller8 I've heard both sides of the debate, me and my Zoology professors discussed it at length. Bottom line is, without killing animals there is no biology. Only behavioral science. And without meat food sources, humans would've died out eons ago. Some of my colleagues believe it's part of the reason we developed the brain we have in the first place. I've heard every argument down to the "structure of our teeth" argument. I have not, nor have my Professors been persuaded. It is what it is
@GoSuMonSteR I agree with you that humans would've never survived if it wasn't for meat, but how is that any proof? Vegetation was scarce yet less pathetic, weak, and foolish animals where able to survive, so humans ate them. I don't see how that proves we were designed to eat them; it basically just shows that we did eat them.
@marekiller8 Most animals that were specifically designed to eat Plant matter will die if they consume meat. Like Gorillas and other animals that can eat plants what humans are not able to digest. Now, we are obviously not Carnivores either because Carnivores can only eat meat and their bodies are designed to eat meat. Now, it is widely known that humans are also insectivorous. We eat insects in various cultures around the world. So we eat insects, plants, and meat. We are Omnivorous.
@GoSuMonSteR I'll say okay on the insect part. But here's my take on everything else you said. Most animals designed to eat plants die if they eat meat? Well, our meat-eating shortened our lifespan. We contract various diseases from meat which shorten our lifespan. Why do you think we cook it, besides taste? But ignoring all this, there are thousands of herbivores who can eat meat. There are even deer documented eating birds and small mammals. None died; they still do this. cont.
@GoSuMonSteR Gorillas eat these plants because there is thick vegetation where they grow. We are actually not natural herbivores but natural frugivores. If you are unfamiliar with the term, it means we naturally are designed to eat nuts, fruits, berries, beans, etc.. That is why we can't generally digest non-fruiting vegetation. There are still many plants that humans can digest; take urban foragers for an example. cont.
@marekiller8 And all the things you've said is exactly why we're not strict herbivores. And If there's an animal that eats something besides plants then it wouldn't be a strict herbivore would he? It' be omnivorous. And though we cook some meats, there are meats that people don't cook and can live off of. Much seafood is able to be eaten raw, as they do in Japan. And as if you can't get diseases and bacteria from plants. Why do we need to recall spinach and tons of other veggies due to E. Coli?
@GoSuMonSteR There are well over four hundred diseases and health complications that can be obtained from eating meat. Anyone can agree that plants are far less dangerous to eat. Sushi is prepared so carefully, and that is the reason it is not hazardous to eat. It has to be in a constant state to be edible; many people have gotten illnesses and the sort from eating unclean sushi.
@marekiller8 Nothing's 100% safe to eat all the time. Cooking some kinds of meat is important, just as washing your vegetables is important. I want to get back to another point I was making before I seen your post that I was notified of. There are many people who live in climates where its not warm enough for that vegetarian life style, which is why they eat seals and other animals and use the remains for many different things. To take meat away from them is to condemn them to death.
@GoSuMonSteR We can all agree washing is not nearly as extreme. Raw foodies (vegans who eat only uncooked food) live longer than average, but, even though I've never heard of them, I'm sure a raw meat-eater's lifespan would easily amount to less than half of even the average. Why is that? And those people in cold regions can simply move to warmer regions. Its kind of ignorant you mentioned seals as a food source; I'm pretty sure you've heard of seal clubbing, and if you haven't, this is YouTube.
@GoSuMonSteR Overall, even if we were baboons, ostriches, or any other natural omnivores, just because you're designed to do something doesn't make it right, especially when you can easily do otherwise, almost just as well with the advent of modern discoveries and inventions.
@marekiller8 Not necessarily. I thought about that argument before I seen you posted it. Here are several problem: You're forgetting about the damage done to ecosystems when we have to cut down forests in order to grow more veggies for everyone to eat. And it's easy to be in an industrialized nation which makes you shallow and causes you to take things for granted, like the massive amounts of oil it takes to ship those fruits and veggies all over the world. Nor do you take into account droughts.
@GoSuMonSteR See, a grand solution would include personal foraging, meaning everyone could gather, or farm without deforestation (see Native Americans). But if the trees were cut down, hey, I can't do anything about it now, so might as well eat the fruits of it (literally). Local eaters or people who shop from farmer's markets don't need much fuel at all to get the products. There is far too much farmland in America for droughts to be a problem.
@marekiller8 Yes, except without trees you're destroying hundreds of species of animal. You know...those lovely sentient beings you're trying so hard to protect. And you assume people live in America. Not to mention 1/8 people in America go hungry everyday. So I say let them eat what they can. And I don't think people understand how bad global warming could get. Unless you're one of those deniers. And if you haven't noticed, due to flooding and extreme heat in some places of the US which...
@marekiller8 Is causing the yield to go down. And how your post reads it's almost as if you want us to roam around gathering berries and such. Foraging for our food like gatherers? Like Native Americans? That's laughable. Not in an industrialized nation. "And people in cold regions moving to warmer regions." That's laughable as well. As if it were that simple and people could snap their fingers. You have a band aide for everything? What's your band aide for 5 degree warming?
@marekiller8 Well, I'll end this conversation here, because it's going nowhere fast. I will say one thing scientists are going to do for us soon. We'll be creating meat in a lab eventually, so you won't have to worry about the slaughter of animals for too much longer. Alas, it's a good thing to be able to create meat in a lab. Too bad it's not economically viable right now.
@Glossika I asked what Beijing duck was as Laoshu had told me earlier he's almost a full vegetarian, but he's not even a pescetarian as of yet, which disappoints me. I'm just assuming Beijing duck is duck, as I asked the question, sparking this whole debate, about what Beijing duck was, but I never really got a reply. :/ I did watch the video.
@marekiller8 It's just the way it's made, I eat it all the time. I could walk down the street and take a pic of them hanging in the doorway, but it's not convenient to post pictures on YouTube. I eat a lot of stuff just as long as it's not 人工/artificial-type stuff. my body is still mostly biological in nature.
@Glossika :( Ducks hanging in the doorway? The poor creatures. :'( The point in question is eating of burnt corpses, not eating organic, but if you are looking into eating organic I assure you vegetarianism and veganism are the two most healthy diets in the world (not vegan propaganda; you can look this up). All meat has the same rational quantity of harmful (LCD) cholesterol and fat, and vegetarians/vegans have more than 20% less blood pressure.
Wow Laoshu, you're really getting into that Cantonese! I'm learning Mandarin at the moment, and after I've reached an intermediate level, I'm going to start Cantonese. Cantonese looks much more difficult though!
@BritishTechGuy Yea, it's not a joke. I've been on Cantonese like crazy. I've been even waking up in the middle of the night just to get back to studying it. I may have to go see a psychiatrist or something. Good luck.
@laoshu505000 Sound like your on whole decide level from others, but if you want to really learn something so bad this will happens sometimes. It means that learning Languages are part of your subconscious mind now. This is only you think about, dream, and do. To be honest I admire your commitment alot you inspire me to learn byself.
You spend $50 on just one Cantonese book, your language budget must be astronomical considering you probably collect the books on every language, correct me if I'm wrong. Well, I'm not complaining, I'm not much better. What do the psychiatrists call us anyway? Obsessive-compulsive or what? And I'm still up in the middle of the night working on Rukai.
Glossika 7 months ago
actually my bad. the lë is more like a "leh" . I just pronounce it in a non-standard way cus that's how my parents would speak (actually I might be using a different particle, but in any case, that's the standard pronunciation).
eternicaster 7 months ago
The lë sound is more like a "luh" schwa-ish sound, but you should keep it up in speaking as much as possible. I have an older version of this book, but now that the characters are here... I should pick this up. Thanks for informing me.
BTW, you should've pointed out which characters are the "Cantonese" ones the "m" instead of the "bu" negation or the "lei" instead of "lai" (to come)
eternicaster 7 months ago
my relationship with mandarin isn't going so great after we took the next step. we started writing, but she wants me to touch her characters more. i'm deathly afraid of the characters: i don't know how they work! how do i get over my fear of her characters so i can please her?
emperorsenshi 7 months ago
@emperorsenshi hmm
laoshu505000 7 months ago
@marekiller8 I'm not trying to be a dick or start an argument or anything, but I just wanted to mention that I can't help but imagine someone killing a bunch of female horses everytime I see your username. Not a very fitting name for a vegan. ;)
Nachtfechter 7 months ago
I can't believe people got into a huge argument just because you said "Beijing duck stains" lol.
pinkpumpkinn 7 months ago
@pinkpumpkinn I know. It's truly remarkable.
laoshu505000 7 months ago
@pinkpumpkinn Yes, sorry. But whenever I see vegans complain about consuming meat, even when the video has nothing to do with it, I must comment.
GoSuMonSteR 7 months ago
@GoSuMonSteR I think people just be bored sometimes. You can tell because their comments are totally irrelevant to the video.
laoshu505000 7 months ago
This is like an interactive grammar book, I love these type. The examples seem to take prevalence over the explanations. I think I'm going to check out the version for Japanese. ありがとうモーゼ！。
Jeremiah2305 7 months ago
@Jeremiah2305 I'm going to look into the Japanese one as well. Np
laoshu505000 7 months ago
that is a thick book!
emperorsenshi 7 months ago
@kazoopilot if you are going to be in chinatown in manhattan, learn cantonese. if you want to speak to chinese people still living in china/taiwan, learn mandarin. mandarin is more 'useful' for business, but there seem to be more cantonese speakers in the US and Canada.
emperorsenshi 7 months ago
@emperorsenshi exactly
laoshu505000 7 months ago
你为什么想看书，就吃烤鸭跟这本书？这本书有没有很意思？我没学过广东话可是我一学，我就买那本书！Sorry if I said that wrong...
EpicAdam102 7 months ago
@EpicAdam102 哈其实我说的句子只是个特别的表现而已
laoshu505000 7 months ago
I can read a lot of the characters here.
alkantre 7 months ago
@kazoopilot I'm not sure what your definition of ''useful'' is since everyone has their own definition of this. To me, if you're living here in the U.S. you can't go wrong learning either or. There are so many native speakers of both languages here.
laoshu505000 7 months ago
how much did you pay for that book? :)
mynameismarvin 7 months ago
@mynameismarvin 50 bucks
laoshu505000 7 months ago
@laoshu505000 hmm...a little steep, but worth it right? :D
mynameismarvin 7 months ago
@mynameismarvin As much as I love Canto, I probably would've paid 100 bucks for the book! Canto got me whipped.
laoshu505000 7 months ago 4
What's Beijing duck? Please don't tell me its some murdered poultry. :(
marekiller8 7 months ago
@marekiller8 Do you own any pets?
GoSuMonSteR 7 months ago
@GoSuMonSteR I don't believe in animal ownership, but I live with a Panda Oranda that my Grandmother had bought. Considering I already have him contained for the rest of his life, I just try to give him the best life possible. Other than that, at least one mouse, a good few cockroaches, and one or two houseflies (sometimes a mosquito here and there) live alongside me. Sometimes I feed the house mouse a cracker or nut, but the other critters usually get by very well.
marekiller8 7 months ago
@marekiller8 Well in my opinion, if you own a pet you're contributing to millions of animals being abused and killed. When people buy pets (no matter how well they take care of their own) other animals are cruelly treated and housed in the worst possible conditions in order to keep up with demand. And because people want "cute little puppies" they are responsible for millions of dog and other "domesticated animal" deaths every year. So when you say shit like "murdered poultry"...
GoSuMonSteR 7 months ago
@GoSuMonSteR Ignorance is bliss. Now reread the comment I wrote and quote me on the exact sentence in which I stated I bought the fish. My grandmother bought the poor creature, Mr.Intelligence unlimited. And if you actually do care about the horrible pet industry, which I can only imagine, for humanity's sake, you do, you would be a hypocrite not to be vegetarian or vegan. So are you?
marekiller8 7 months ago
@marekiller8 You missed my point. Mr. or Mrs. intelligence. I was simply pointing out that if you are against animal cruelty then you should be against everything involving animals. Which includes clothing, pets, food and drink, etc. Why are you not yelling at your grandmother? And I am against animals suffering needlessly, but I do realize people need to eat. I assume you're a vegan. I am not, because I'm not fortunate enough to live in an area where food is always readily available.
GoSuMonSteR 7 months ago
@marekiller8 And the pet industry and food industry are two completely different things. Pets are acquired for peoples own selfish reasons. Food is a necessity. Now, treating animals humanely up until the time they are going to be killed for consumption, that's a completely different issue.
GoSuMonSteR 7 months ago
@GoSuMonSteR Where you live food isn't readily available? I'd love to go to a place where people have enough luck to have working electricity and internet along with a laptop/computer but not enough food to suffice for a diet of vegetables. Sounds gorgeous. You obviously can't obtain anything that is vegetarian, and you've never eaten a plant in your life, as your whole diet consists of meat. You're excused! Personally, I would rather starve to death than kill a sentient being for my own wants.
marekiller8 7 months ago
@GoSuMonSteR Meat is a need, eh? Really? REALLY? I never quite knew that. Its just like how child molestation is a need because its a form of sex, a need, or how drinking human blood is a need, because it replaces your natural need to drink. Or how slaughtering trillions of sentient beings a year while housing most of them in a pen not large enough to sit down in and letting them live in their own shit and then sending a steel rod through their head or slitting their throats is a need.
marekiller8 7 months ago
@marekiller8 I just cooked a whole chicken. Sacrificed it in your name and drank its blood. You caused this death.
GoSuMonSteR 7 months ago
@GoSuMonSteR If you would like to do wrong then I suppose it is your choice. I would not know what to say if you murdered someone as I do not know what to say now. But if you would not kill a child, you should not kill an equally worthy animal. Just know what you are doing is wrong. It is your choice, ultimately, but what you can't decide is whether its right or not.
marekiller8 7 months ago
@marekiller8 Ill drop you off in a jungle and see if the animals there care if you're a vegan or not.
GoSuMonSteR 7 months ago
@GoSuMonSteR No, they won't care. Not the slightest bit. But hey, humans are lucky. We have no natural predators because of our isolation form nature and are natural vegetarians. So I'm pretty sure if I knew a tad about wilderness survival I could survive with my dignity and shame intact. But saying we shouldn't care about animals because they don't care about us is ignoring the whole point of morality and ethics. We do right oblivious to whether our fellow beings do it also.
marekiller8 7 months ago
@marekiller8 We're not natural vegetarians, that's a lie. Vegan propaganda. We're omnivores, our closes primate relatives are omnivores. But as if that matters. There are humans who can't have Vegan diets; documented.
GoSuMonSteR 7 months ago
@GoSuMonSteR Humans who can't have vegan diets? Elaborate because biologically this makes no sense at all. I've spent far too much time in the past arguing our natural vegetarianism so I'm not so excited to enter another debate on it; I'll just leave you and Google to figure something out. Honestly, though, if any animal in the world could see that we called ourselves natural meat-eaters, Earth would shake with laughter. Humans are honestly pathetic.
marekiller8 7 months ago
@GoSuMonSteR Humans who can't have vegan diets? Elaborate because biologically this makes no sense at all. I've spent far too much time in the past arguing our natural vegetarianism so I'm not so excited to enter another debate on it; I'll just leave you and Google to figure something out. Honestly, though, if any animal in the world could see that we called ourselves natural meat-eaters, Earth would shake with laughter. Humans are honestly pathetic.
marekiller8 7 months ago
@marekiller8 Lol As if you were the authority on what's right and correct. And as if Google were the proper place to research these things. You wouldn't have a good time as a biologist as well, because we have to kill animals to study them, otherwise we learn nothing about life. Human's since we branched off from earlier primates have eaten insects, animals, and plant matter to sustain ourselves. We're not Cows or Gorillas who are specifically designed to eat plants.
GoSuMonSteR 7 months ago
@GoSuMonSteR Humans are not designed to eat meat and that's all that matters. I have a compelling argument against meat-eating so if you want to hear it message me. Too long to explain here, but if you heard it, you wouldn't find it absurd in the slightest to claim that meat-eating at its nicest is malevolent.
marekiller8 7 months ago
@marekiller8 I've heard both sides of the debate, me and my Zoology professors discussed it at length. Bottom line is, without killing animals there is no biology. Only behavioral science. And without meat food sources, humans would've died out eons ago. Some of my colleagues believe it's part of the reason we developed the brain we have in the first place. I've heard every argument down to the "structure of our teeth" argument. I have not, nor have my Professors been persuaded. It is what it is
GoSuMonSteR 7 months ago
@GoSuMonSteR I agree with you that humans would've never survived if it wasn't for meat, but how is that any proof? Vegetation was scarce yet less pathetic, weak, and foolish animals where able to survive, so humans ate them. I don't see how that proves we were designed to eat them; it basically just shows that we did eat them.
marekiller8 7 months ago
@marekiller8 Most animals that were specifically designed to eat Plant matter will die if they consume meat. Like Gorillas and other animals that can eat plants what humans are not able to digest. Now, we are obviously not Carnivores either because Carnivores can only eat meat and their bodies are designed to eat meat. Now, it is widely known that humans are also insectivorous. We eat insects in various cultures around the world. So we eat insects, plants, and meat. We are Omnivorous.
GoSuMonSteR 7 months ago
@GoSuMonSteR I'll say okay on the insect part. But here's my take on everything else you said. Most animals designed to eat plants die if they eat meat? Well, our meat-eating shortened our lifespan. We contract various diseases from meat which shorten our lifespan. Why do you think we cook it, besides taste? But ignoring all this, there are thousands of herbivores who can eat meat. There are even deer documented eating birds and small mammals. None died; they still do this. cont.
marekiller8 7 months ago
@GoSuMonSteR Gorillas eat these plants because there is thick vegetation where they grow. We are actually not natural herbivores but natural frugivores. If you are unfamiliar with the term, it means we naturally are designed to eat nuts, fruits, berries, beans, etc.. That is why we can't generally digest non-fruiting vegetation. There are still many plants that humans can digest; take urban foragers for an example. cont.
marekiller8 7 months ago
@marekiller8 And all the things you've said is exactly why we're not strict herbivores. And If there's an animal that eats something besides plants then it wouldn't be a strict herbivore would he? It' be omnivorous. And though we cook some meats, there are meats that people don't cook and can live off of. Much seafood is able to be eaten raw, as they do in Japan. And as if you can't get diseases and bacteria from plants. Why do we need to recall spinach and tons of other veggies due to E. Coli?
GoSuMonSteR 7 months ago
@GoSuMonSteR There are well over four hundred diseases and health complications that can be obtained from eating meat. Anyone can agree that plants are far less dangerous to eat. Sushi is prepared so carefully, and that is the reason it is not hazardous to eat. It has to be in a constant state to be edible; many people have gotten illnesses and the sort from eating unclean sushi.
marekiller8 7 months ago
@marekiller8 Nothing's 100% safe to eat all the time. Cooking some kinds of meat is important, just as washing your vegetables is important. I want to get back to another point I was making before I seen your post that I was notified of. There are many people who live in climates where its not warm enough for that vegetarian life style, which is why they eat seals and other animals and use the remains for many different things. To take meat away from them is to condemn them to death.
GoSuMonSteR 7 months ago
@GoSuMonSteR We can all agree washing is not nearly as extreme. Raw foodies (vegans who eat only uncooked food) live longer than average, but, even though I've never heard of them, I'm sure a raw meat-eater's lifespan would easily amount to less than half of even the average. Why is that? And those people in cold regions can simply move to warmer regions. Its kind of ignorant you mentioned seals as a food source; I'm pretty sure you've heard of seal clubbing, and if you haven't, this is YouTube.
marekiller8 7 months ago
@GoSuMonSteR Overall, even if we were baboons, ostriches, or any other natural omnivores, just because you're designed to do something doesn't make it right, especially when you can easily do otherwise, almost just as well with the advent of modern discoveries and inventions.
marekiller8 7 months ago
@marekiller8 Not necessarily. I thought about that argument before I seen you posted it. Here are several problem: You're forgetting about the damage done to ecosystems when we have to cut down forests in order to grow more veggies for everyone to eat. And it's easy to be in an industrialized nation which makes you shallow and causes you to take things for granted, like the massive amounts of oil it takes to ship those fruits and veggies all over the world. Nor do you take into account droughts.
GoSuMonSteR 7 months ago
@GoSuMonSteR See, a grand solution would include personal foraging, meaning everyone could gather, or farm without deforestation (see Native Americans). But if the trees were cut down, hey, I can't do anything about it now, so might as well eat the fruits of it (literally). Local eaters or people who shop from farmer's markets don't need much fuel at all to get the products. There is far too much farmland in America for droughts to be a problem.
marekiller8 7 months ago
@marekiller8 Yes, except without trees you're destroying hundreds of species of animal. You know...those lovely sentient beings you're trying so hard to protect. And you assume people live in America. Not to mention 1/8 people in America go hungry everyday. So I say let them eat what they can. And I don't think people understand how bad global warming could get. Unless you're one of those deniers. And if you haven't noticed, due to flooding and extreme heat in some places of the US which...
GoSuMonSteR 7 months ago
@marekiller8 Is causing the yield to go down. And how your post reads it's almost as if you want us to roam around gathering berries and such. Foraging for our food like gatherers? Like Native Americans? That's laughable. Not in an industrialized nation. "And people in cold regions moving to warmer regions." That's laughable as well. As if it were that simple and people could snap their fingers. You have a band aide for everything? What's your band aide for 5 degree warming?
GoSuMonSteR 7 months ago
@marekiller8 Well, I'll end this conversation here, because it's going nowhere fast. I will say one thing scientists are going to do for us soon. We'll be creating meat in a lab eventually, so you won't have to worry about the slaughter of animals for too much longer. Alas, it's a good thing to be able to create meat in a lab. Too bad it's not economically viable right now.
GoSuMonSteR 7 months ago
@marekiller8 "Even if we were baboons or ostriches?" That was soooo random. By the way, I'm a pangolin.
Glossika 7 months ago
@Glossika I was citing examples of true omnivores. :P
marekiller8 7 months ago
@marekiller8 hey bro, way off topic. The topic was learning Cantonese, did you even watch the video?
Glossika 7 months ago
@Glossika I asked what Beijing duck was as Laoshu had told me earlier he's almost a full vegetarian, but he's not even a pescetarian as of yet, which disappoints me. I'm just assuming Beijing duck is duck, as I asked the question, sparking this whole debate, about what Beijing duck was, but I never really got a reply. :/ I did watch the video.
marekiller8 7 months ago
@marekiller8 It's just the way it's made, I eat it all the time. I could walk down the street and take a pic of them hanging in the doorway, but it's not convenient to post pictures on YouTube. I eat a lot of stuff just as long as it's not 人工/artificial-type stuff. my body is still mostly biological in nature.
Glossika 7 months ago
@Glossika :( Ducks hanging in the doorway? The poor creatures. :'( The point in question is eating of burnt corpses, not eating organic, but if you are looking into eating organic I assure you vegetarianism and veganism are the two most healthy diets in the world (not vegan propaganda; you can look this up). All meat has the same rational quantity of harmful (LCD) cholesterol and fat, and vegetarians/vegans have more than 20% less blood pressure.
marekiller8 7 months ago
@marekiller8 I'd have to call you a hypocrite because you're inadvertently causing the deaths of millions through your pet ownership.
GoSuMonSteR 7 months ago
That's sexy...no joke
epsilon910 7 months ago
How do you find out about good books?
Pentowe 7 months ago
@Pentowe A lot of the times, I take chances just to see how good the book is. Other people recommend books to me quite often as well.
laoshu505000 7 months ago
carlousdouh talked about sing le in one of his videos was pretty cool nice review
ThaaMCchannel 7 months ago
@ThaaMCchannel He did? That's funny
laoshu505000 7 months ago
Wow Laoshu, you're really getting into that Cantonese! I'm learning Mandarin at the moment, and after I've reached an intermediate level, I'm going to start Cantonese. Cantonese looks much more difficult though!
BritishTechGuy 7 months ago
@BritishTechGuy Yea, it's not a joke. I've been on Cantonese like crazy. I've been even waking up in the middle of the night just to get back to studying it. I may have to go see a psychiatrist or something. Good luck.
laoshu505000 7 months ago 13
@laoshu505000 Haha! I guess that shows your passion for the language.
BritishTechGuy 7 months ago
@laoshu505000 Sound like your on whole decide level from others, but if you want to really learn something so bad this will happens sometimes. It means that learning Languages are part of your subconscious mind now. This is only you think about, dream, and do. To be honest I admire your commitment alot you inspire me to learn byself.
PLaY489 7 months ago