I saw Aurthur Lee several times in the mid 90's as he was opening for my Wild Child Bro Dave Brock....WHAT A CHARACTER! And an original 60's guy...I had Little Red Book on 45 back then....may the Earth lay lightly on your head Aurther Lee!
I just had to check out the Ramones version! I guess I always believed the old expression: "The original is still the greatest!" However it was pretty good but the more dominant drums seem to drowned out the geeetars as opposed to flowing along w/one another! Vocals although well done just didn't have the powerfull resinence associated with the blasting effect needed to put across the confused angered acid trip message as did "Love"! If someone said I'd b writen this @ 61 back then? Cheah right!
Love...they were the source by which any rock music would be measured against. This was the most powerful song playing on the radio at the time; noone could touch Arthur Lee and gang. No wonder Jimi Hendrix sought Arthur out. To this day, it still sounds amazing. Thank you Arthur and Love.
This is the truest punk ever. Revolutionary, tough, thought-provoking (the dangers of nuclear war), and (most of all) sung by a guy who broke social taboos (the black guy in a white-dominated band).
Looking over any lyrics attributed to The Sex Pistols reveals subject matter already addressed by The Kinks a decade earlier. Apart from being an Antichrist. Reserved or not, songs like The Hard Way, Top of the Pops, and the aforementioned You Really Got Me / All Day-Night bear the hallmarks of an attitude problem with the powers that be, whether that's lyrically or musically. I''m sticking with my assertion. :)
@Suckerfly I think you are being unfair to the Kinks by comparing them with the Sex Pistols. While the Punk movement in England might have been politically right, at the time -- it was really a rather cynical, media hyped movement, fueled by drugs and money. Initially they had good intentions, but they weren't that talented, and time bore that out. Now they are all doing revival tours, looking just as bloated as the bands they reviled. Not a "Waterloo Sunset" to be heard among them.
The Kinks, The Who, Love -- all great. These days, we need them (and garage/psychedelia, in general) more than ever. Kudos to Lenny Kaye and Little Steven!
I'd actually say The Kinks were the predecessors of Punk. Not only because of the style of music they hit the scene with, but also allowing the pop charts to be an open forum to discuss empire, council houses, suburban malaise etc. The Kinks should be regarded as the most influential of the British Wave bands. You can still hear them in the music written today.
@Suckerfly I love the Kinks -- but I don't think "predecessors of Punk" is an accurate title to bestow on them. Early, the raw power and simplicity of "You Really Got Me" was so far ahead of its time that it influenced Punks on both sides of the Atlantic. After that, and into the 70's, it was a kinder, gentler Kinks we heard. Their music might have been topical, and had a certain edge, but it was also polished and reserved. The Ramones and New York Dolls were the real precursors to Punk.
@finylvinyl66 They were American Punks, but when they toured England, they (mainly the Ramones) had a profound effect on many British musicians. The fast, stripped down, 3 chord attack of the Ramones heavily influenced bands like the Sec Pistols, and this has been stated in rock documentary after rock documentary. They had were more of an impact in England than here. You are probably right about other contributions to Punk, like The Pebbles, but we were talking about the Kinks, weren't we?
@LessIsMoor All you said is true. The Kinks and "You Really Got Me" were among those who started it all.
The Kingsmen's "Louie Louie" came a year earlier and was just as influential. Punk really was born in the garages of the "garage bands" so well documented on Nuggets and Pebbles. These were kids who often could barely play their instruments but had the spirit, enthusiasm and even vision for the new music that was taking over the world, and they sometimes had a great song or two in them.
@finylvinyl66 Punk music was more a reaction to the popular, and perceived pretentious Rock of the 70's by such bands as Pink Floyd, Yes, Styx, Boston, Kansas etc,. They also despised "flower power", "the summer of love" and everything hippie. Their lyrics were angry, and their music was stripped down and raw. The Punks' honesty and energy was appealing, but its repetitive, zealous nature could only be tolerated so long. It burned out quickly, opening the door for the more refined "New Wave".
@finylvinyl66 The Kinks & The Kingsmen. THANK YOU. It's all in the way they sounded, and the attitude behind it.
And any reading of The Kink's Shangri La and its disdain for ... or Brainwashed ... or .. Dead End Street. The Kinks talked about things their peers just did not approach, with possible exception in The Who and The Small Faces. But nowhere near the poetic heights of Ray Davies. It may have come across sweet & reserved at times, but there was biting social commentary in it.
@simpsonsfiend75 Well, "punk" can be a mindset and also a sound of a particular bit of music. The mindset is individualistic-freedom, the sound-bit is corporate control.
@simpsonsfiend75 I would say it's early, but certainly the Monks and the Fugs put out records in 1963 and 1965 respectively, so a couple years earlier.
Oh yes. I remember when I was just 7 years old, when Telstar was played on the airwaves in So. California. It was the first British band to break into Number 1 on the charts, just one year before the Beatles hit the scene in America. Most people don't know that point of trivia. It a very uplifting and optimistic instrumental song, almost Utopian in spirit.
Good morning, do you like sixties? Listen and pod cast my program " great sound of 60' s " on the site plumfm. Greeting and made blooper in rock and roll. Salut, vous aimez les sixties ? Ecoutez et podcatez mon émission "le super son des sixties" sur plum fm. Salut et faites gaffe au rock'n roll
Yes. You are absolutely correct. It's a groundbreaking song. It paved the way for the rest of the punk groups, years later. Even the Ramones have a much later rendition of it.
@DerGlaetze I would like to thoughtfully add that in fact, no, this song was just one of a number of tunes from the '60s that could be said to have inspired the later Punk movement. The Who, possibly the actual "proto punks" for the Mods (who were proto punks), "My Generation." Then, songs like Count 5, "Psychotic Reaction," The Yardbirds with their double timed, "I'm a Man," and a couple other frantic pieces they did, and there are others. I think that "Love" was a LA band is significant.
Yes. True. However, this particular song has a few levels higher to the ultimate "punk sound", by way of both faster, surf guitar genre, mixed with speed and shouting bombast.
But, yes, the Who, Yardbirds and Count 5 also deserve a lot of credit, with opening the door to it, for sure.
You may also want to explore YouTube and type in The Litter, and their album Emerge, with songs like Journeys, and explore them as well. They were a Minneapolis groundbreaker from the 60s, as well. Enjoy.
@DerGlaetze Thanks for the reply. You know, after I wrote that, I thought of the late '50s monster hit, "Telestar." Remember that one? There are elements from there in that song too. I think it is really interesting to notice how new stuff most often builds on the past. I think that perhaps one problem with the present is that most of these guys are trying to be so original, with no ties to the past that they end up either too bland, or so quirky, it's not listenable.
@UdReks I don't know The Monks, but I do know the Fugs very well. I think that is stretching the issue quite a bit. It makes the argument that ANY sort of sarcasm in music must be related to punk. They were a beatnik jug band that was hilarious but would also go way over the top in wierdness, but were after all, part of the Andy Warhol, LSD spiked New York, protest, freak out, culture there. Punk is agressive music, the Fugs, The Mothers of Invention, many would qualify. CONT
@UdReks CONT People need to think chronologically not retrospectively. Punk was promoted as disrespect to former rock and roll, ALL OF IT. They called all the previous bands dinosaurs, etc. They wanted to offend everyone, at least the real hard core bands like The Sex Pistols. What happened concurrently was New Wave, that borrowed heavily on earlier styles. But the Punk bands really took influences from much earlier rock and roll. When you've got a band called, Butthole Surfers,....
@deaddoc I was actually going to clubs in the 70s. You're talking about a very small subset of punk. You're not talking about X or the Talking Heads or the Buzzcocks or a great many other bands. You're not even talking about the Ramones. Yeah, the Sex Pistols fit but punk was about stripped down music with hooks on an era of operatic masturbating. The Monks, by the way, are available on Youtube. 4MmSl0xu0ec
@UdReks I was working as medical staff at rock concerts in the lates 70s right through to the 90s. I am aware of what you are saying. This is not a place for full discussion because of 500 characters, etc. Punk and New Wave had a lot of gray area and trying to be precise about it is useless. But as far as influences go, we can only truly speak in terms of influence, and such. The trend then and somewhat today is to attempt to pretend originality via ignoring or disavowing the past. CONT
@UdReks CONT That only creates an illusion of originality and it's all some sort of promotional hype anyway. Historically, there was always a tradition of building on previous material and cultural influences, with some generational influence, etc. But the advent of the electric guitar is what changed popular music in a big way. BTW, some of my favorite Punk influenced stuff is Irish folk/punk, like The Pogues, and then Flogging Molly, Dropkick Murphy's, etc.
@UdReks I was watching the Bob Dylan film, "No Direction Home," a bit ago. I realized and remembered while watching it, that Dylan was really the first Punk. He took a lot of derision for going electric and then all the strange words and music, often aggressive that he did. Got death threats during his tour in England. Answered back with the sarcastic, "Ballad of the Thin Man." His interviews are very interesting from a proto-punk aspect.
@DerGlaetze It wasn't groundbreaking nor was it ahead of its time. There were a good number of examples of angry rock and roll. Another I'm thinking of is "Talk, Talk," but plenty of others. Even "Mystic Eyes" by Them is a good example period aggressiveness. The Yardbirds turned "I'm a Man" into an aggressive style. The Who were really the predecessors of Punk because the Mod phenomena in London was a continuation of the older Teddy Boy "punks," etc. But all movements have prehistory.
@Suckerfly I was a Kinks fan from the start. I recall "A Dedicated Follower of Fashion," and the rest. The Kinks used sarcastic lyrics with its music accepted to the subject. Something like "All Day and All of the Night." or "You Really Got Me," is rock romance, not really adding anything to punk tendencies. If you fast forward to 1972 with the Kinks release, Muswell Hillbillies, they use the same formula. "Demon Alcohol," is a great example of full lyrical and musical sarcasm, but not pk
@TheBalnat nah....you could call it that but back then there was no such thing as punk... Arthur Lee apparently wrote some surf tunes. Can't overlook the fact that surf was HUGE just a couple years before, but was kicked out the door by the Stones and Beatles and then the Beach boys turned it into a preppy travesty of itself..... Dick Dale was the man back then....
@himmelhund69 Don't you mean, "preppy parody of itself?" But I give the BBs a little credit. They got with it and came along and made some good music later on. My wife met them once, I saw them in concert on a bill with The Grateful Dead in the early 70s. They're nice people and welcomed to the party.
goldfish!!!! rudy johnson
barbarian95man 14 hours ago
I saw Aurthur Lee several times in the mid 90's as he was opening for my Wild Child Bro Dave Brock....WHAT A CHARACTER! And an original 60's guy...I had Little Red Book on 45 back then....may the Earth lay lightly on your head Aurther Lee!
ahmosis123 6 days ago
I just had to check out the Ramones version! I guess I always believed the old expression: "The original is still the greatest!" However it was pretty good but the more dominant drums seem to drowned out the geeetars as opposed to flowing along w/one another! Vocals although well done just didn't have the powerfull resinence associated with the blasting effect needed to put across the confused angered acid trip message as did "Love"! If someone said I'd b writen this @ 61 back then? Cheah right!
Mr57Henry 2 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
oddly enough I am here coz of my kid....he is only 14 lol
Rayncatt 2 weeks ago
@Rayncatt ohhh ok and what happened in the last minute??? too busy tokkin...hmmm lol
Rayncatt 2 weeks ago
Whenever I hear this song, I can see, hear, feel and smell Huntington Beach, California, in 1967. Wow!
DerGlaetze 2 weeks ago
Was fortunate to see and hear this band live at the Whiskey-a-Go-Go, amazing; made more so in that 'The Stones' were in the audience.
TinCanToucan 1 month ago
CLASSIC!!!!!!
maxxxe2u 1 month ago
Hardly a day goes by without the memories,Thank you Arthur,Ken &Bryran.R.I.P. like we know why ,,,,Love anyways
supermemojo 1 month ago
Damn John, I had three of this band's albums and they haven't even crossed my mind in 35 yrs.
Richgru 1 month ago
like if MGMT brought you here !
IdiotAGENCY 1 month ago
One of the Fucking heaviest and Greatest Songs ever written ! They Blow away every other band out of the 60's !! Love Rules !!
GreenhouseEffectGE 2 months ago
Love...they were the source by which any rock music would be measured against. This was the most powerful song playing on the radio at the time; noone could touch Arthur Lee and gang. No wonder Jimi Hendrix sought Arthur out. To this day, it still sounds amazing. Thank you Arthur and Love.
Ampvega 3 months ago
This is the truest punk ever. Revolutionary, tough, thought-provoking (the dangers of nuclear war), and (most of all) sung by a guy who broke social taboos (the black guy in a white-dominated band).
Well, other than post-punk, Television, and Wire.
Malkmusianful 3 months ago
@Malkmusianful a lot BETTER than most punk songs!
surfrecords999 1 month ago
Looking over any lyrics attributed to The Sex Pistols reveals subject matter already addressed by The Kinks a decade earlier. Apart from being an Antichrist. Reserved or not, songs like The Hard Way, Top of the Pops, and the aforementioned You Really Got Me / All Day-Night bear the hallmarks of an attitude problem with the powers that be, whether that's lyrically or musically. I''m sticking with my assertion. :)
Suckerfly 3 months ago
@Suckerfly I think you are being unfair to the Kinks by comparing them with the Sex Pistols. While the Punk movement in England might have been politically right, at the time -- it was really a rather cynical, media hyped movement, fueled by drugs and money. Initially they had good intentions, but they weren't that talented, and time bore that out. Now they are all doing revival tours, looking just as bloated as the bands they reviled. Not a "Waterloo Sunset" to be heard among them.
LessIsMoor 3 months ago
The music of my youth. This one goes out to Jim and Stan. Thanks for riding with me to Monterey Pop (June 1967). It was the time of my life.
mickeymousebiker1 3 months ago
The Kinks, The Who, Love -- all great. These days, we need them (and garage/psychedelia, in general) more than ever. Kudos to Lenny Kaye and Little Steven!
mickeymousebiker1 3 months ago
I'd actually say The Kinks were the predecessors of Punk. Not only because of the style of music they hit the scene with, but also allowing the pop charts to be an open forum to discuss empire, council houses, suburban malaise etc. The Kinks should be regarded as the most influential of the British Wave bands. You can still hear them in the music written today.
Suckerfly 4 months ago
@Suckerfly I love the Kinks -- but I don't think "predecessors of Punk" is an accurate title to bestow on them. Early, the raw power and simplicity of "You Really Got Me" was so far ahead of its time that it influenced Punks on both sides of the Atlantic. After that, and into the 70's, it was a kinder, gentler Kinks we heard. Their music might have been topical, and had a certain edge, but it was also polished and reserved. The Ramones and New York Dolls were the real precursors to Punk.
LessIsMoor 3 months ago
@LessIsMoor The Dolls and Ramones weren't precursors to punk. They WERE punk.
Get a copy of the Nuggets box set and you'll learn who the real precursors were.
Or some of the Pebbles compilations.
finylvinyl66 3 months ago
@finylvinyl66 They were American Punks, but when they toured England, they (mainly the Ramones) had a profound effect on many British musicians. The fast, stripped down, 3 chord attack of the Ramones heavily influenced bands like the Sec Pistols, and this has been stated in rock documentary after rock documentary. They had were more of an impact in England than here. You are probably right about other contributions to Punk, like The Pebbles, but we were talking about the Kinks, weren't we?
LessIsMoor 3 months ago
@LessIsMoor All you said is true. The Kinks and "You Really Got Me" were among those who started it all.
The Kingsmen's "Louie Louie" came a year earlier and was just as influential. Punk really was born in the garages of the "garage bands" so well documented on Nuggets and Pebbles. These were kids who often could barely play their instruments but had the spirit, enthusiasm and even vision for the new music that was taking over the world, and they sometimes had a great song or two in them.
finylvinyl66 3 months ago
@finylvinyl66 Punk music was more a reaction to the popular, and perceived pretentious Rock of the 70's by such bands as Pink Floyd, Yes, Styx, Boston, Kansas etc,. They also despised "flower power", "the summer of love" and everything hippie. Their lyrics were angry, and their music was stripped down and raw. The Punks' honesty and energy was appealing, but its repetitive, zealous nature could only be tolerated so long. It burned out quickly, opening the door for the more refined "New Wave".
LessIsMoor 3 months ago
@finylvinyl66 The Kinks & The Kingsmen. THANK YOU. It's all in the way they sounded, and the attitude behind it.
And any reading of The Kink's Shangri La and its disdain for ... or Brainwashed ... or .. Dead End Street. The Kinks talked about things their peers just did not approach, with possible exception in The Who and The Small Faces. But nowhere near the poetic heights of Ray Davies. It may have come across sweet & reserved at times, but there was biting social commentary in it.
Suckerfly 3 months ago
this song just kicks so much ass it's hard to put into words
jessedan2 4 months ago
i thought this song was called boom bip bip.
cshargeit 5 months ago
I guess the length of the comments says a lot about these guys
tacey505 5 months ago
THUMBS UP FOR SAMCRO
13kozel 5 months ago
the first punk song????
simpsonsfiend75 6 months ago
@simpsonsfiend75 Well, "punk" can be a mindset and also a sound of a particular bit of music. The mindset is individualistic-freedom, the sound-bit is corporate control.
Ariel62073 5 months ago
@simpsonsfiend75 I would say it's early, but certainly the Monks and the Fugs put out records in 1963 and 1965 respectively, so a couple years earlier.
UdReks 5 months ago
Da Capo!!! o bppb bpp! BRAVO! Always reminded me so much of HENDRIX!!~!
SuperNancy1947 6 months ago
Da Capo!!!
VirtuThe3rd 7 months ago
LOVE DA CAPO is a masterpeice and often forgotten album. no true hippie was without their copy of this album in the 60s.
TheBabyboomkidof53 8 months ago
Oh yes. I remember when I was just 7 years old, when Telstar was played on the airwaves in So. California. It was the first British band to break into Number 1 on the charts, just one year before the Beatles hit the scene in America. Most people don't know that point of trivia. It a very uplifting and optimistic instrumental song, almost Utopian in spirit.
DerGlaetze 8 months ago
Surf rocks.
himmelhund69 8 months ago
Way too short!! I have to find my album again!
64098 10 months ago
Space funeral!
omegametroid37 10 months ago
Awesome music.
Serknox 10 months ago
WOW garage Love, what could be better?!
KallistiMusic 1 year ago
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supersondessixties 1 year ago
Great! great! great! - I concider this as the first real punk single.
TheBalnat 1 year ago
@TheBalnat
Yes. You are absolutely correct. It's a groundbreaking song. It paved the way for the rest of the punk groups, years later. Even the Ramones have a much later rendition of it.
Way too cool and ahead of its time, my friend.
Peace.
DerGlaetze 10 months ago
@DerGlaetze I would like to thoughtfully add that in fact, no, this song was just one of a number of tunes from the '60s that could be said to have inspired the later Punk movement. The Who, possibly the actual "proto punks" for the Mods (who were proto punks), "My Generation." Then, songs like Count 5, "Psychotic Reaction," The Yardbirds with their double timed, "I'm a Man," and a couple other frantic pieces they did, and there are others. I think that "Love" was a LA band is significant.
deaddoc 8 months ago
@deaddoc
Yes. True. However, this particular song has a few levels higher to the ultimate "punk sound", by way of both faster, surf guitar genre, mixed with speed and shouting bombast.
But, yes, the Who, Yardbirds and Count 5 also deserve a lot of credit, with opening the door to it, for sure.
You may also want to explore YouTube and type in The Litter, and their album Emerge, with songs like Journeys, and explore them as well. They were a Minneapolis groundbreaker from the 60s, as well. Enjoy.
DerGlaetze 8 months ago
@DerGlaetze Thanks for the reply. You know, after I wrote that, I thought of the late '50s monster hit, "Telestar." Remember that one? There are elements from there in that song too. I think it is really interesting to notice how new stuff most often builds on the past. I think that perhaps one problem with the present is that most of these guys are trying to be so original, with no ties to the past that they end up either too bland, or so quirky, it's not listenable.
deaddoc 8 months ago
@deaddoc I would look at the Monks and the Fugs as well
UdReks 5 months ago
@UdReks I don't know The Monks, but I do know the Fugs very well. I think that is stretching the issue quite a bit. It makes the argument that ANY sort of sarcasm in music must be related to punk. They were a beatnik jug band that was hilarious but would also go way over the top in wierdness, but were after all, part of the Andy Warhol, LSD spiked New York, protest, freak out, culture there. Punk is agressive music, the Fugs, The Mothers of Invention, many would qualify. CONT
deaddoc 5 months ago
@UdReks CONT People need to think chronologically not retrospectively. Punk was promoted as disrespect to former rock and roll, ALL OF IT. They called all the previous bands dinosaurs, etc. They wanted to offend everyone, at least the real hard core bands like The Sex Pistols. What happened concurrently was New Wave, that borrowed heavily on earlier styles. But the Punk bands really took influences from much earlier rock and roll. When you've got a band called, Butthole Surfers,....
deaddoc 5 months ago
@deaddoc I was actually going to clubs in the 70s. You're talking about a very small subset of punk. You're not talking about X or the Talking Heads or the Buzzcocks or a great many other bands. You're not even talking about the Ramones. Yeah, the Sex Pistols fit but punk was about stripped down music with hooks on an era of operatic masturbating. The Monks, by the way, are available on Youtube. 4MmSl0xu0ec
UdReks 5 months ago
@UdReks I was working as medical staff at rock concerts in the lates 70s right through to the 90s. I am aware of what you are saying. This is not a place for full discussion because of 500 characters, etc. Punk and New Wave had a lot of gray area and trying to be precise about it is useless. But as far as influences go, we can only truly speak in terms of influence, and such. The trend then and somewhat today is to attempt to pretend originality via ignoring or disavowing the past. CONT
deaddoc 5 months ago
@UdReks CONT That only creates an illusion of originality and it's all some sort of promotional hype anyway. Historically, there was always a tradition of building on previous material and cultural influences, with some generational influence, etc. But the advent of the electric guitar is what changed popular music in a big way. BTW, some of my favorite Punk influenced stuff is Irish folk/punk, like The Pogues, and then Flogging Molly, Dropkick Murphy's, etc.
deaddoc 5 months ago
@UdReks I was watching the Bob Dylan film, "No Direction Home," a bit ago. I realized and remembered while watching it, that Dylan was really the first Punk. He took a lot of derision for going electric and then all the strange words and music, often aggressive that he did. Got death threats during his tour in England. Answered back with the sarcastic, "Ballad of the Thin Man." His interviews are very interesting from a proto-punk aspect.
deaddoc 5 months ago
@DerGlaetze It wasn't groundbreaking nor was it ahead of its time. There were a good number of examples of angry rock and roll. Another I'm thinking of is "Talk, Talk," but plenty of others. Even "Mystic Eyes" by Them is a good example period aggressiveness. The Yardbirds turned "I'm a Man" into an aggressive style. The Who were really the predecessors of Punk because the Mod phenomena in London was a continuation of the older Teddy Boy "punks," etc. But all movements have prehistory.
deaddoc 5 months ago
@deaddoc Don't forget The Kinks! They were heavier than The Who's first couple of singles.
Suckerfly 4 months ago
@Suckerfly I was a Kinks fan from the start. I recall "A Dedicated Follower of Fashion," and the rest. The Kinks used sarcastic lyrics with its music accepted to the subject. Something like "All Day and All of the Night." or "You Really Got Me," is rock romance, not really adding anything to punk tendencies. If you fast forward to 1972 with the Kinks release, Muswell Hillbillies, they use the same formula. "Demon Alcohol," is a great example of full lyrical and musical sarcasm, but not pk
deaddoc 4 months ago
@TheBalnat nah....you could call it that but back then there was no such thing as punk... Arthur Lee apparently wrote some surf tunes. Can't overlook the fact that surf was HUGE just a couple years before, but was kicked out the door by the Stones and Beatles and then the Beach boys turned it into a preppy travesty of itself..... Dick Dale was the man back then....
himmelhund69 8 months ago
@himmelhund69 Don't you mean, "preppy parody of itself?" But I give the BBs a little credit. They got with it and came along and made some good music later on. My wife met them once, I saw them in concert on a bill with The Grateful Dead in the early 70s. They're nice people and welcomed to the party.
deaddoc 5 months ago
@himmelhund69 Dick Dale is still great now. Saw him a few years ago. Great time!
deaddoc 5 months ago
gotta love that coda
theblahman 1 year ago
Great song.
pfoneil67 1 year ago
@pfoneil67 damn right
theblahman 1 year ago