The NJ church issue is explainable! The church was given a tax break on land the church had bought if it agreed to allow the public to use the land without discrimination. The church agreed to this until, a lesbian couple wanted to get married there. Then the church refuse to allow this and was penalized by the gov. for going back on the agreement.
Hear, hear. The silly lies are now aiming at the Minnesota State Constitution, and the citizens under that constitution, and we are gearing up for another "storm." Thanks for an excellent and thoughtful rebuttal to the lies.
The answer to the gay marriage issue is in the 10th amendment to the Constitution.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The Constitution says nothing about gay marriage, thus it CAN be legalized, but in a STATE setting.
the federal government has no Constitutional power to either ban or legalize it nationally.
The answer to the gay marriage issue is in the 10th amendment to the Constitution.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The Constitution says nothing about gay marriage, thus it CAN be legalized, but in a STATE setting.
the federal government has no Constitutional power to either ban or legalize it nationally.
You know if the state would just recognize that marriage is a religious issue and not sponsor it at all, then they wouldn't have to band together to "protect" it, and everyone can get married according to THEIR beliefs. The Constitution says NOTHING about the right to marry, and that means that it is up the the states to decide per the 10th amendment. What business of the government is it to know if I've committed a religious ceremony or not?
@Leonicdragon, my view is that marriage is, depending on the American you talk to, (1) a religious institution, (2) a social institution, (3) a fundamental legal civil right, (1) and (3), (2) and (3), or (1) and (2) and (3), BUT in the eyes of our U.S. Government only (3) - a fundamental civil right as stated by the U.S. Supreme Court in their interpretation of the U.S. Constitution from its decision on Loving v. Virginia in the late 1960's.
@SeanChapin1 well that's odd that the judge used "civil right" instead of "natural right." If could be said that marriage is included as a civil right, but marriage is a natural right covered under the 1st amendment so it doesn't matter. Since you cited that ruling, I'm sure you know what the difference is. Civil rights are a farce because our government cannot give us rights that we are already endowed with by "our Creator." It can only give us privileges which requires permission.
@Leonicdragon, the United States can not adopt any religion, and therefore rights that are recognized by the U.S. Constitution and government are considered civil rights indifferent to any religions practiced by its citizens, including Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism, Muslim, Hindu, Wicca, etc. Civil rights are a real and crucial element of the morals and ethics of our country.
@SeanChapin1 I was quoting the preamble of the Constitution. Civil rights are not natural rights. Civil rights are privileges that can be revoked by not being civil. Just look at the etymology and definition of the words in Black's Law Dictionary.
@SeanChapin1 I never said that it could, but read the Preable; i was quoting it. It says "Our Creator" Since the majority of our founding fathers were deists they used those words as a generic term for what ever god the individual believed in. They DID however believe in creation, so the "Christians" who say that this country was built on men of faith are half right.
@Leonicdragon you guys aren't understanding the actual issue at hand here. it is not just the word marriage, it is the right that goes with it. being allowed to see your partner in the hospital, health care status, joint-adoption, financial records, funeral arrangements the list goes on. so the government recognition of marriage is the part that we want. we really don't give a damn about being married in a church or not.
@thewhatsit104 You can still do all those things; it's called Power of Attorney. Whenever you marry someone in the states eyes, all you are doing is signing a contractual obligation to share each other's responsibilities and possessions. If you and your partner create Power of Attorney agreements, then you give each other the legal right to speak on the other's behalf and no hospital financial institution etc, can bar you from that right without written consent from the originator.
@Leonicdragon yeah thats great, the power of attorney. but still your missing the point here. a marriage is a marriage. i mean sure the power of attorney would be similar to a marriage but it still doesn't adress the sharing of health care, joint-custody, and several other key issues in the battle for marriage. honestly that sounds like a good alternative in places where not even civil unions exist but it is still a bit flawed in comparison to marriage
@thewhatsit104 Well for health care, that is a private matter that you have to discuss with your healthcare provider, and many of them have domestic partner benefits. The ones that don't have that right as a private company and if people disagree then they should express that to the company, protest, and find another one. Joint custody is something shared with the mother and father of a child and one has to create legal documents to change that already.
@Leonicdragon still what good would it be if the government stopped recognizing all marriages and if people would be forced to make their spouses their power of attorneys instead of their brides. i don't care about the religious aspect of marriage AT ALL. whatever any holy book says about marriage means nothing to me. i want to be married in the governments eyes and merge my life together with someone. i don't care about religion. i just want to legally and emotionally bond together with my love
@thewhatsit104 Yo are still missing the point. if they recognized marriage as a religious right instead of a public one, then the state would have to recognize ALL marriage contracts. That's what I meant by they should get out of it. If it's a religious issue, the state has to be neutral and allow it all. the argument is that then people would marry their children or dogs, blah blah blah, but animals aren't in the Constitution and can't make contracts themselves.
@Leonicdragon oh that's what you were trying to say. that makes absolutely perfect sense, because it combines the religious aspect of protecting marriage for catholics and mormons, but it still allows some baptist and lutheran churches to marry people and give them th rights through the religious ceremony like how they do in israel with civil marriages. the ONLY flaw is if a gay couple is in a church that doesn't perform gay marriage but thats just a bug that needs to be worked out
@Leonicdragon The only paramount reason for the state to recognize marriage would be for tax breaks and I'm for ending the FED anyway, so that's irrelevant to me. As far as the state is concerned marriage is just a contractual partnership or merger of two corporations. Why do you feel that you should have to ask permission from the state to marry someone? What is the point in paying for a marriage license? That's why I think the whole thing is ridiculous and the state should stay out of marraige
@Leonicdragon "You can still do all those things; it's called Power of Attorney"
Maybe where you live.....in many cases next of kin laws super cede a power of attorney in medical cases. Do you know how easy it is to strike down a power of attorney anyway? If a power of attorney were an affective replacement to legal marriage......why would non-christian Americans ever get married?
@Leonicdragon No, it is YOU who does not understand the real issue at hand. Before people go rallying for "gay rights" they should know exactly what that means and shouldn't just take the word of the rallying speaker. IMO, when it comes to government, less is always more. It is not possible for a government to give you "rights" as your rights are ordaned by the Creator as stated in the Constitution. Government can only exchange those rights for privileges. There is no "straights only" clause in
the US Constitution. All of these "rights" that our community seeks are rights we already have as human beings. We shouldn't need special protection just because some people don't like us or agree with how we live. Should we give Muslims special protection as well since there are a lot of biggots that thing every Muslim is a terrorist? Or Jews because there are anti-Semitic people as well? No, we should hold our officers and government accountable for its intolerance!
@Leonicdragon "Should we give Muslims special protection as well"
We already do. Muslims are protected by the same constitutional guarantee that protects Christians.
I get your point........but while were waiting for your perfect utopian society to materialize......why not just go ahead and grant equality to those being alienated by the current system that we have no choice but to deal with.
@clubindiana4 No, that's not "special" I mean enacting legislation that makes attacking a muslim a federal offense. The only people that get THAT protection are we homosexuals and African Americans; THAT is special treatment not equality. As for a "utopian society" it couldn't be farther from the truth. The only reason the state started dictating marriage was to make sure that the blood types matched and to increase control of people's lives.
@Leonicdragon "The only people that get THAT protection are we homosexuals and African Americans"
Not true. Read the constitution. The entire document basically outlines "special rights" for different groups ranging from Christians to businesses.
The fact is....we don't live in a Democracy, we live in a Republic under the protection of a Constitution. The creation of legal protection of minority groups isn't a "special right", its an evolution of our founding principals.
@clubindiana4 "The entire document basically outlines "special rights" for different groups ranging from Christians to businesses." *bashes head in keyboard* The Bill of Rights is not SPECIAL. The "Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act" DOES give special rights to homosexuals and african americans ONLY. The Bill of Rights applies to EVERYONE. Nothing is singled out in it as "...all Men are created equal...endowed by their Creator with... UNALIENABLE RIGHTS."
@Leonicdragon So......by your ration....the entire Civil Rights Movement was just a push for special rights? Those who are not counted in the "...all Men are created equal" equation should just lump it?
@clubindiana4 no actually the civil war was to categorize slaves as "men" so that the Constitution would protect them as the human beings they are and not 1/10 of a person as they were considered. The Civil Rights movement in terms of the race riots was to protect against discrimination. Unfortunately, the law makers and public servants were not following their Constitutional duties. The laws that were enacted in lue of the civil rights movements were federal laws that did just that.
@Leonicdragon Were on the same page....I just don't agree with your ration. I would guess just by reading your comments that you're a white, straight male......because you trust the courts to "do the right thing" in situations dealing with minorities, without "special legislation". In theory you're right....in reality there are real and valid reasons why we need this legislation. Time and time again the courts have proven that they are not capable of equal punishment/enforcement.
@clubindiana4 "I would guess just by reading your comments that you're a white, straight male..."
You would be very wrong in that assumption ;) And btw, blatant prejudice and bigotry in the courts is grounds for a mistrial. That is why they have jury selection. Just because the organizations are grandstanding cases for political gain does not mean that all the facts are their to convict beyond all reasonable doubt. I do have faith in the court, but less so in the prosecution and defense.
@DoctorChainsaw Look up "The Legal Aspects of Marriage" and decide for yourself what you think the government has to do with marriage. Just because you propose and have a flashy wedding doesn't make you "legal" married.
You cut each issue straight to the point of what this ad is really trying to do. They say it's about us entering into their lives, but what it's really about is them trying to tell us how to live our lives based on their beliefs in a supposedly free country.
I find the people in the ad to be patheticly desperate and oblivious to the truth. Perhaps they just did it for the money since as we all know religious institutions don't get taxed.
Love this video. When you look at opposition, there is just no logic to it. Its based on irrational fear and selfishness. Logic is and will continue to prevail against these bigots stuck in the dark ages. You're a cute guy too.
I'm a straight british athiest. I have no problem with anyones religion, but they should keep it to themselves. Personally, Homosexuality is not a bad thing and is a fact of life. Religion, in my opinion is not.
be scared cuz if same sex marrage is allowed droves of gay men and women will come to you house and rape you thus turning you gay lol im dead serius i realy thought it was a joke
In all seriousness though, excellent video. The issues were handled well, respectfully, and in an informed manner that does the cause credit. Thank you for staying rational and collected in the face of their "storm". I think I can see the clouds clearing already, and it's going to be a beautiful day.
This is so sincere. I still can't believe that in the 21st century there's people who ACTUALLY "think" like in that video about the gathering storm.
Straight marriage is perfection itself that's why there's such thing as divorce ¬¬
I don't feel attracted to men but one of my best best friends does, and he's a great guy and I wish him nothing but happiness and I'm very glad that now he (and anyone who wants it) can get married.
This is so sincere. I still can't believe that in the 21st century there's people who ACTUALLY "think" like in that video about the gathering storm.
Straight marriage is perfection itself that's why there's such thing as divorce ¬¬
I don't feel attracted to men but one of my best best friends does, and he's a great guy and I wish him nothing but happiness and I'm very glad that now he (and anyone who wants it) can get married.
when I first seen the original NOM Gathering Storm commercial on youtube, I thought it was a joke, I thought it was a bunch of liberals trying to poke fun at Republicans or something, by displaying the fear and prejudice. Then I realized the commercial was serious. And that actually made the commercial truly funny.
That commercial was all about fear, and double talk. it was an embarrassment.
I love you! lol those were good arguments. And to that clip: that's why I love Obama lol. Everyone says he's really bad and all but he's changing the country, I think trying to turn it around. =D so good video lol! =D =D =D And btw people are saying how the commercial disgusted them and they hate it and stuff, but really, I loved it. It was hilarious, like they made it so funny on purpose =D It made no sense, less than me even. And people say I don't make much sense.
The NOM commercial disgusted me. I really don't understand how people don't see that the way they discriminate against the LGBT community is hurtful and wrong. I have some friends who came out of the closet this past year and did it affect me or anyone else? No. They're still the same people they always were. I wish people would be more tolerable because honestly we're all just people trying to live our own lives. How someone else lives their life is not your concern.
All these "threats" to religious freedom that they mention in this ad they referred to in vague terms, deliberately leaving details out so as to mislead. The church and the doctor weren't rejecting same-sex couples within their religious institutions. They were discriminating within the public domain and violating the laws in those states.
Marriage legislation does not affect school curriculum. Many families headed by same-sex parents lived in mass. before their relationships were recognized by the law. They taught at that school that some kids are raised by 2 parents of the same sex. It was aimed to promote tolerance of those kids. That's it. No mention of marriage laws or sexuality was made. children that young aren't supposed to know about romance & sex. They know their parents as the adults who love them.
You are right, but the rainbow is wrong: it's all inside out, the red should be on the outer edge and the violet in the inner one, and also the blue should be between the green and the violet. Get your facts straight!
@MastermindX, I don't think the intent of the LGBT rainbow flag was to perfectly emulate a rainbow as we would see it in nature. The original LGBT rainbow flag in 1978 had eight colors, that included hot pink and indigo. It was paired down tot 6 colors shortly thereafter, because hot pink was a rare color of fabric to purchase at the time, and once that color was eliminated, people said let's go with the traditional number of colors (six).
Fair enough, but the picture there in the background is of an actual rainbow with the clouds, the sun, and everything, not the LGBT flag.
Anyway even if it was the LGBT flag, in the flag the colors are arranged in order according to the real rainbow, and there are six colors. In the picture there are seven and they are in the wrong order.
So no matter whatever you say, it's wrong. Nice video anyway.
I really wish that the prop 8 trial would be broadcast. I understand that the lawyers have been cross examining of those who choose the language of the adds. This proves a point that these people are now ashamed of broadcasting these this putting millions of dollars behind it. I have sympathy for them because they should fear that people will attach names and faces with the chosen language of these adds that took away people's rights
We have to stop this sick people! they just wanna fight... God Loves everybody, gay, small, big, green, red, even the people in this homophobic spot. come on people get a live! and stop fucking orund our "diabolic" gay lives
i like this... im a gay man and recently in my country -mexico- aproove the gay marrige, and adoption, im trying really hard to defend my oun rights! and my future, the freedom...
...and as a couple, as in love as any straight man and woman, they are being denied equality. They are being denied understanding. They are being denied acceptance. Do you think that a gay man/woman is gay just to piss you off? Do you think that he/she would choose that life? Most times, no. The road to being a homosexual is a road filled with persecution, hate and bigotry, which they have to encounter at every turn. From parents, from family, and from poorly educated people like you.
It still applies, are you saying the members of a baseball team wouldn't have the same individual rights simply because they are in a group? That is illogical
Of course they would but the team itself would have no rights. The individuals who make up a couple have the exact same rights as other individuals as well.
Gay couples are being denied the right to marriage. Although you remain seemingly unaware, being married through the government hosts many benefits. Without a marriage, a couple cannot file joint taxes and are also denied numerous estate planning, government, medical, death, family, housing, and consumer benefits, along with countless other benefits and protections. By infringing on their right to marry, you are infringing on their right to these benefits. Any other questions nnjhanson????
Couples have no rights, only individuals have rights.
Even assuming that there exists a right to marry, that right has always been subject to state imposed conditions and restrictions.
The state issues marriage licenses not so that the individuals who receive them can receive benefits but because society as a whole has a vested interest in the relationship. The benefits that society grants to a married couple are a function of the potential consequence that couple has for society.
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When will the evil state governments of Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, Vermont, and New Hampshire give their citizens a chance to vote on "gay marriage"???
MaryWaterton, unless you are joking, your comment suggests that you are comically out of touch with what it means to be gay and human, not to mention paints you as a hateful, arrogant and borderline-supremacist bigot of a person.
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No sir, I am not joking. I'm calling upon the state governments of Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, Vermont, and New Hampshire to give their citizens a chance to vote against "gay marriage".
Lets vote on if blacks and whites getting married, how about vote on if fat people can gat married, how about ungly people getting married... I can make great points on each of them why someone should get married... But then again, it doesn't have anything to do with my life and my home so why should I have a say in your marriage.....
Im wondering when we'll get a chance to vote on the ERA......after all, everybody knows that women are to emotional, and unstable to be relied on to vote competently. They should stick with bearing children and baking cakes.
well said! (i wasn't expecting such a serious response after watching george takei and all the other parodies but this is quite effective and wonderful, thanks!)
I'm a Canadian, and they ignore Canada because we are like the cousin who jumps into human rights fearlessly, and realize the earth won't burst into flame because progress is made and peoples' lives are made better. In Canada, we are not afraid of the concept of social democracy - we look out for one another up here in the Great White North - we may not all understand one another from coast to coast to coast, but we respect and don't fear each other.
Thank you so much for this video. It's so hard to reason with someone who is affected by these kinds of fear-mongering, hateful ads. Even my own parents started worrying about gay marriage after this ad aired (I'm a lesbian woman). I'm emailing this now!
THANK YOU!!!!! You are so well spoken. I subscribed AND shared it on my FB! Thank you again. The commercial made me cry when I saw it! You have put a smile on my face!
hi I seen that infomercial or whatever ya wanna call it n couldnt believe what a stab it was to human beings minding their own business. Thats the problem so much in america everyone is in eachothers business far too much. Good luck i hope one day gays get marriage and adoption rights and not looked down upon so much. Like u said blacks and women are = now its time for gays now. Im a christian anddo believe everyone is loved by god regardless. God accepts all . Take care all reading n with march
I am a resident of NJ, and the church in question lost the court case because it tried to prevent a civil union on "public property". Such a posture is dead against all NJ law. It's pretty sad that a religious institution would misrepresent facts to take away someone else's civil liberties.
Turtle, you're logic is so incredibly flawed. One does not "turn" gay. Clearly you would be someone who would definitely not want to be gay, so how can you say "everyone" will turn gay when you yourself would resist such change?
Your fears are irrational, and are based on a lack of understanding. Have you even met a gay person?
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The LORD create Adam and Eve and not Adam and Bill or Eve and Evon. If Everybody turn Homosexual and Men married Men and women married Women. In about 50 years the country would fall with no children produced for there would be no one left to carry on.
turtle4aire, I disagree with you - I believe that God created all of us as we are, and that God loves all of us. I don't think that everyone is going to turn gay...there's probably between 3.5% to 5% of people in the USA that are gay, and I don't see that number significantly rising, so I'm sure that overall human reproduction will be fine. That doesn't mean that gay people are not useful, as many of us raise children in loving households in contributing back to society.
Don't be silly. There's no evidence the number of gays has increased, and the population of the world continues to increase. So that argument is ridiculous.
Some people are born gay. Just get over it, and stop trying to impose your superstitions on other people.
okay i gotta say u are a dumb bitch arent you just because same sex marrige is legalized dosent mean everyone then has to marry someone of the same sex or even turn gay u can still live you littl pathetic narrow minds as u have for centuries and leave the rest of us the fuck alone
great job on this video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank you for your response on it. I support this video 100% I hope one day to be the best women at my gay best friends wedding when he marrys his boy friend!!! so YAY to all types of marrige!!!
the simple answer is no, they will continue to lie and spread misinformation because its the only way the can fight for what they want now. They do this on every issue, Oboma's health plan, same sex marriage and evolutions(and any science that conflicts with the bible.) They will do this because they have no morals when it comes to god, there is only obedience and anything including murder is ok as long as its for god, they will do anything!
@fireflygirl246 When gay people sue churches because they won't let them get married in the church it's like throwing a pork chop at a Jewish synagog. It's rude. When the government says, "You can get married to someone of the opposite sex or not get married at all," it's like saying, "You can wear a yarmulke (Jewish hat) or no hat at all." It infringes on religious freedom. I want to get married in my church, not yours. We are Americans, not middle easterners who enforce religious laws.
@Quizoid A homosexual has no right to sue any church for not allowing there marriage there, just like a black person can not sue a racist church for not letting them get married there. The church can turn anyone away for any reason and they can not be sued, its basic religious freedom. What is being talked about in the gay marriage debate is only civil marriage not religious marriage. The government cant discriminate against anyone based on religion, sex, race or sexual orientation.
@fireflygirl246 I'm not sure what you're saying is what you believe to be fact, and what you want to have happen. I think you might have misunderstood me. Here's my basic stance and what I think is true. Churches should reserve the right to turn anyone away who wants to rent their space (this is not true in every state). The government should recognize same-sex marriage (this is not true in every state, or federally). Basically, I'm about freedom of religion (which is upheld in both cases).
@fireflygirl246 I might also add that any thing that might be considered "comunist" or "socialist" are frowned apon as well, witch was why the heath plan got warped and perverted. Oh well >.>
i'm not gay but i know gay people frinds famly people. gay Marriage is just like anyother marriage you got two people who love one in othere how does that hurt us you tell me
i... i love you o_ o Your right. My question to this ad would be "how is your freedom being taken away? I mean you can still do what you want just as long as you don harm anyone."
Amazing. You're so right. I'm bisexual, and I too respect other people's beliefs. But really, something like this that was put out.. is just so condescending. What do we do besides live our lives and try to be happy? Honestly. Everyone needs to grow up, and see past such minor things.
40 people have they're heads up they're asses and thus can't see being gay is not a choice same with being bi-sexual
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have you seen the parody they have Jane lynch in it is about giant gay repellent umbrella lol
andrewtokyo12 6 months ago
The NJ church issue is explainable! The church was given a tax break on land the church had bought if it agreed to allow the public to use the land without discrimination. The church agreed to this until, a lesbian couple wanted to get married there. Then the church refuse to allow this and was penalized by the gov. for going back on the agreement.
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Boudiga YES FIGHT THE POWER!!!!
rlystupidcomments 6 months ago
-EPIC APPLAUSE SOUNDS FOLLOWED BY EPIC CHOIR TO PRAISE THIS [kinda hot] MAN-
lolhardful 7 months ago
@seanchapin1 well said handsome i couldn,t have it better myself!
TheKoolguy34 7 months ago
"Can we drop the silly lies and be adults here?"
Hear, hear. The silly lies are now aiming at the Minnesota State Constitution, and the citizens under that constitution, and we are gearing up for another "storm." Thanks for an excellent and thoughtful rebuttal to the lies.
bohemianspiritmn 8 months ago
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The answer to the gay marriage issue is in the 10th amendment to the Constitution.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The Constitution says nothing about gay marriage, thus it CAN be legalized, but in a STATE setting.
the federal government has no Constitutional power to either ban or legalize it nationally.
youngbono18 11 months ago
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The answer to the gay marriage issue is in the 10th amendment to the Constitution.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The Constitution says nothing about gay marriage, thus it CAN be legalized, but in a STATE setting.
the federal government has no Constitutional power to either ban or legalize it nationally.
youngbono18 11 months ago
You know if the state would just recognize that marriage is a religious issue and not sponsor it at all, then they wouldn't have to band together to "protect" it, and everyone can get married according to THEIR beliefs. The Constitution says NOTHING about the right to marry, and that means that it is up the the states to decide per the 10th amendment. What business of the government is it to know if I've committed a religious ceremony or not?
Leonicdragon 1 year ago
@Leonicdragon, my view is that marriage is, depending on the American you talk to, (1) a religious institution, (2) a social institution, (3) a fundamental legal civil right, (1) and (3), (2) and (3), or (1) and (2) and (3), BUT in the eyes of our U.S. Government only (3) - a fundamental civil right as stated by the U.S. Supreme Court in their interpretation of the U.S. Constitution from its decision on Loving v. Virginia in the late 1960's.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 well that's odd that the judge used "civil right" instead of "natural right." If could be said that marriage is included as a civil right, but marriage is a natural right covered under the 1st amendment so it doesn't matter. Since you cited that ruling, I'm sure you know what the difference is. Civil rights are a farce because our government cannot give us rights that we are already endowed with by "our Creator." It can only give us privileges which requires permission.
Leonicdragon 1 year ago
@Leonicdragon, the United States can not adopt any religion, and therefore rights that are recognized by the U.S. Constitution and government are considered civil rights indifferent to any religions practiced by its citizens, including Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism, Muslim, Hindu, Wicca, etc. Civil rights are a real and crucial element of the morals and ethics of our country.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 I was quoting the preamble of the Constitution. Civil rights are not natural rights. Civil rights are privileges that can be revoked by not being civil. Just look at the etymology and definition of the words in Black's Law Dictionary.
Leonicdragon 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 I never said that it could, but read the Preable; i was quoting it. It says "Our Creator" Since the majority of our founding fathers were deists they used those words as a generic term for what ever god the individual believed in. They DID however believe in creation, so the "Christians" who say that this country was built on men of faith are half right.
Leonicdragon 5 months ago
@Leonicdragon you guys aren't understanding the actual issue at hand here. it is not just the word marriage, it is the right that goes with it. being allowed to see your partner in the hospital, health care status, joint-adoption, financial records, funeral arrangements the list goes on. so the government recognition of marriage is the part that we want. we really don't give a damn about being married in a church or not.
thewhatsit104 5 months ago
@thewhatsit104 You can still do all those things; it's called Power of Attorney. Whenever you marry someone in the states eyes, all you are doing is signing a contractual obligation to share each other's responsibilities and possessions. If you and your partner create Power of Attorney agreements, then you give each other the legal right to speak on the other's behalf and no hospital financial institution etc, can bar you from that right without written consent from the originator.
Leonicdragon 5 months ago
@Leonicdragon yeah thats great, the power of attorney. but still your missing the point here. a marriage is a marriage. i mean sure the power of attorney would be similar to a marriage but it still doesn't adress the sharing of health care, joint-custody, and several other key issues in the battle for marriage. honestly that sounds like a good alternative in places where not even civil unions exist but it is still a bit flawed in comparison to marriage
thewhatsit104 5 months ago
@thewhatsit104 Well for health care, that is a private matter that you have to discuss with your healthcare provider, and many of them have domestic partner benefits. The ones that don't have that right as a private company and if people disagree then they should express that to the company, protest, and find another one. Joint custody is something shared with the mother and father of a child and one has to create legal documents to change that already.
Leonicdragon 5 months ago
@Leonicdragon still what good would it be if the government stopped recognizing all marriages and if people would be forced to make their spouses their power of attorneys instead of their brides. i don't care about the religious aspect of marriage AT ALL. whatever any holy book says about marriage means nothing to me. i want to be married in the governments eyes and merge my life together with someone. i don't care about religion. i just want to legally and emotionally bond together with my love
thewhatsit104 5 months ago
@thewhatsit104 Yo are still missing the point. if they recognized marriage as a religious right instead of a public one, then the state would have to recognize ALL marriage contracts. That's what I meant by they should get out of it. If it's a religious issue, the state has to be neutral and allow it all. the argument is that then people would marry their children or dogs, blah blah blah, but animals aren't in the Constitution and can't make contracts themselves.
Leonicdragon 5 months ago
@Leonicdragon oh that's what you were trying to say. that makes absolutely perfect sense, because it combines the religious aspect of protecting marriage for catholics and mormons, but it still allows some baptist and lutheran churches to marry people and give them th rights through the religious ceremony like how they do in israel with civil marriages. the ONLY flaw is if a gay couple is in a church that doesn't perform gay marriage but thats just a bug that needs to be worked out
thewhatsit104 5 months ago
@thewhatsit104 yes. :) Well if a church doesn't recognize gay marriage then why would you go there? :P
Leonicdragon 5 months ago
@Leonicdragon The only paramount reason for the state to recognize marriage would be for tax breaks and I'm for ending the FED anyway, so that's irrelevant to me. As far as the state is concerned marriage is just a contractual partnership or merger of two corporations. Why do you feel that you should have to ask permission from the state to marry someone? What is the point in paying for a marriage license? That's why I think the whole thing is ridiculous and the state should stay out of marraige
Leonicdragon 5 months ago
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@Leonicdragon "You can still do all those things; it's called Power of Attorney"
Maybe where you live.....in many cases next of kin laws super cede a power of attorney in medical cases. Do you know how easy it is to strike down a power of attorney anyway? If a power of attorney were an affective replacement to legal marriage......why would non-christian Americans ever get married?
clubindiana4 5 months ago
@Leonicdragon No, it is YOU who does not understand the real issue at hand. Before people go rallying for "gay rights" they should know exactly what that means and shouldn't just take the word of the rallying speaker. IMO, when it comes to government, less is always more. It is not possible for a government to give you "rights" as your rights are ordaned by the Creator as stated in the Constitution. Government can only exchange those rights for privileges. There is no "straights only" clause in
Leonicdragon 5 months ago
the US Constitution. All of these "rights" that our community seeks are rights we already have as human beings. We shouldn't need special protection just because some people don't like us or agree with how we live. Should we give Muslims special protection as well since there are a lot of biggots that thing every Muslim is a terrorist? Or Jews because there are anti-Semitic people as well? No, we should hold our officers and government accountable for its intolerance!
Leonicdragon 5 months ago
@Leonicdragon "Should we give Muslims special protection as well"
We already do. Muslims are protected by the same constitutional guarantee that protects Christians.
I get your point........but while were waiting for your perfect utopian society to materialize......why not just go ahead and grant equality to those being alienated by the current system that we have no choice but to deal with.
clubindiana4 5 months ago
@clubindiana4 No, that's not "special" I mean enacting legislation that makes attacking a muslim a federal offense. The only people that get THAT protection are we homosexuals and African Americans; THAT is special treatment not equality. As for a "utopian society" it couldn't be farther from the truth. The only reason the state started dictating marriage was to make sure that the blood types matched and to increase control of people's lives.
Leonicdragon 5 months ago
@Leonicdragon "The only people that get THAT protection are we homosexuals and African Americans"
Not true. Read the constitution. The entire document basically outlines "special rights" for different groups ranging from Christians to businesses.
The fact is....we don't live in a Democracy, we live in a Republic under the protection of a Constitution. The creation of legal protection of minority groups isn't a "special right", its an evolution of our founding principals.
clubindiana4 5 months ago
@clubindiana4 "The entire document basically outlines "special rights" for different groups ranging from Christians to businesses." *bashes head in keyboard* The Bill of Rights is not SPECIAL. The "Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act" DOES give special rights to homosexuals and african americans ONLY. The Bill of Rights applies to EVERYONE. Nothing is singled out in it as "...all Men are created equal...endowed by their Creator with... UNALIENABLE RIGHTS."
Leonicdragon 5 months ago
@Leonicdragon So......by your ration....the entire Civil Rights Movement was just a push for special rights? Those who are not counted in the "...all Men are created equal" equation should just lump it?
clubindiana4 5 months ago
@clubindiana4 no actually the civil war was to categorize slaves as "men" so that the Constitution would protect them as the human beings they are and not 1/10 of a person as they were considered. The Civil Rights movement in terms of the race riots was to protect against discrimination. Unfortunately, the law makers and public servants were not following their Constitutional duties. The laws that were enacted in lue of the civil rights movements were federal laws that did just that.
Leonicdragon 5 months ago
@Leonicdragon "law makers and public servants were not following their Constitutional duties"
What were their duties? How did they fail?
clubindiana4 5 months ago
@Leonicdragon Were on the same page....I just don't agree with your ration. I would guess just by reading your comments that you're a white, straight male......because you trust the courts to "do the right thing" in situations dealing with minorities, without "special legislation". In theory you're right....in reality there are real and valid reasons why we need this legislation. Time and time again the courts have proven that they are not capable of equal punishment/enforcement.
clubindiana4 5 months ago
@clubindiana4 "I would guess just by reading your comments that you're a white, straight male..."
You would be very wrong in that assumption ;) And btw, blatant prejudice and bigotry in the courts is grounds for a mistrial. That is why they have jury selection. Just because the organizations are grandstanding cases for political gain does not mean that all the facts are their to convict beyond all reasonable doubt. I do have faith in the court, but less so in the prosecution and defense.
Leonicdragon 5 months ago
@Leonicdragon "is grounds for a mistrial" = no guarantee of a mistrial. "special legislation" can resolve that loop hole in sentencing.
clubindiana4 5 months ago
What is the point of government having a role in marriage anyway?
DoctorChainsaw 1 year ago
@DoctorChainsaw Look up "The Legal Aspects of Marriage" and decide for yourself what you think the government has to do with marriage. Just because you propose and have a flashy wedding doesn't make you "legal" married.
VigorousData 1 year ago
well put, and you're very very cute! :)
drewby6789 1 year ago
Bravo man. I couldn't have said it better myself.
You cut each issue straight to the point of what this ad is really trying to do. They say it's about us entering into their lives, but what it's really about is them trying to tell us how to live our lives based on their beliefs in a supposedly free country.
I find the people in the ad to be patheticly desperate and oblivious to the truth. Perhaps they just did it for the money since as we all know religious institutions don't get taxed.
GojyotheFeared 1 year ago
It's so sad when someones dream is to deprive anothers dream to marry and celebrate their love.
trevortrevortsr2 1 year ago
Love this video. When you look at opposition, there is just no logic to it. Its based on irrational fear and selfishness. Logic is and will continue to prevail against these bigots stuck in the dark ages. You're a cute guy too.
steve4equality 1 year ago
live and let live!
davorrizg82 1 year ago
that video touched my heart. very mature and to the point. thankyou.
unixman84 1 year ago
I'm a straight british athiest. I have no problem with anyones religion, but they should keep it to themselves. Personally, Homosexuality is not a bad thing and is a fact of life. Religion, in my opinion is not.
MTTT19 1 year ago
wow, what video, i agree with what you are saying in the video. Very well say!!!
hvu6 1 year ago
be scared cuz if same sex marrage is allowed droves of gay men and women will come to you house and rape you thus turning you gay lol im dead serius i realy thought it was a joke
linkforever92 1 year ago
@linkforever92 dead serious about it being a joke yah
idaman12345 1 year ago
@idaman12345 no the actual comercial not the guy
linkforever92 1 year ago
LOVE it!!
tigerborn62 1 year ago
this was great man
silentfades 1 year ago
This is a great video!! Very smart response and very sincere. I applaud you!
mikeltkt 1 year ago
Oh hye...40 people missed the like button, hrm.
In all seriousness though, excellent video. The issues were handled well, respectfully, and in an informed manner that does the cause credit. Thank you for staying rational and collected in the face of their "storm". I think I can see the clouds clearing already, and it's going to be a beautiful day.
NintenVixen 1 year ago
Bravo!
aastudman 1 year ago
"Can we drop the silly lies and be adults here?" in politics? not gonna happen.
BillKiernan 1 year ago
have a hug from the uk :)
tonybuk70 1 year ago
I commend your bravery and logic in making this video, it's a true work of art and courage.
SEvePhillips 1 year ago 5
EXCELLENT video!! Thank you for making this!
hig 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 I support you
setustraight 1 year ago
anti gay marriage supporters just suck. i mean they are so stubborn and closed minded.
838287 1 year ago
Stop making since! I mean really.
customerjon 1 year ago
This is so sincere. I still can't believe that in the 21st century there's people who ACTUALLY "think" like in that video about the gathering storm.
Straight marriage is perfection itself that's why there's such thing as divorce ¬¬
I don't feel attracted to men but one of my best best friends does, and he's a great guy and I wish him nothing but happiness and I'm very glad that now he (and anyone who wants it) can get married.
Greetings from argentina
ektwr88 1 year ago 3
This is so sincere. I still can't believe that in the 21st century there's people who ACTUALLY "think" like in that video about the gathering storm.
Straight marriage is perfection itself that's why there's such thing as divorce ¬¬
I don't feel attracted to men but one of my best best friends does, and he's a great guy and I wish him nothing but happiness and I'm very glad that now he (and anyone who wants it) can get married.
Greetings from argentina
ektwr88 1 year ago
Absolutely beautiful video I have much respect for you.
lef8 1 year ago
when I first seen the original NOM Gathering Storm commercial on youtube, I thought it was a joke, I thought it was a bunch of liberals trying to poke fun at Republicans or something, by displaying the fear and prejudice. Then I realized the commercial was serious. And that actually made the commercial truly funny.
That commercial was all about fear, and double talk. it was an embarrassment.
Anyhow, I liked this response video :)
RazorBladeKandy 1 year ago
this is GREAT! thanx for posting this!
lefonsi 1 year ago
You've got a big ass clock
Turtawz 1 year ago
well said
OrangeBlaze99 1 year ago
I love you! lol those were good arguments. And to that clip: that's why I love Obama lol. Everyone says he's really bad and all but he's changing the country, I think trying to turn it around. =D so good video lol! =D =D =D And btw people are saying how the commercial disgusted them and they hate it and stuff, but really, I loved it. It was hilarious, like they made it so funny on purpose =D It made no sense, less than me even. And people say I don't make much sense.
MagicalGirlBehoimi2 1 year ago 2
Wonderful video.
myteethareshiny 1 year ago
Wow! Thank you so much for this wonderful video.
shallowmic 1 year ago
The NOM commercial disgusted me. I really don't understand how people don't see that the way they discriminate against the LGBT community is hurtful and wrong. I have some friends who came out of the closet this past year and did it affect me or anyone else? No. They're still the same people they always were. I wish people would be more tolerable because honestly we're all just people trying to live our own lives. How someone else lives their life is not your concern.
zondrizler 1 year ago
I agree with you so much I'm kind of annoyed at being straight lol.
chiffmonkey 1 year ago
All these "threats" to religious freedom that they mention in this ad they referred to in vague terms, deliberately leaving details out so as to mislead. The church and the doctor weren't rejecting same-sex couples within their religious institutions. They were discriminating within the public domain and violating the laws in those states.
xothegirlz 1 year ago
Marriage legislation does not affect school curriculum. Many families headed by same-sex parents lived in mass. before their relationships were recognized by the law. They taught at that school that some kids are raised by 2 parents of the same sex. It was aimed to promote tolerance of those kids. That's it. No mention of marriage laws or sexuality was made. children that young aren't supposed to know about romance & sex. They know their parents as the adults who love them.
xothegirlz 1 year ago
You are right, but the rainbow is wrong: it's all inside out, the red should be on the outer edge and the violet in the inner one, and also the blue should be between the green and the violet. Get your facts straight!
MastermindX 1 year ago
@MastermindX, I don't think the intent of the LGBT rainbow flag was to perfectly emulate a rainbow as we would see it in nature. The original LGBT rainbow flag in 1978 had eight colors, that included hot pink and indigo. It was paired down tot 6 colors shortly thereafter, because hot pink was a rare color of fabric to purchase at the time, and once that color was eliminated, people said let's go with the traditional number of colors (six).
SeanChapin1 1 year ago 6
Fair enough, but the picture there in the background is of an actual rainbow with the clouds, the sun, and everything, not the LGBT flag.
Anyway even if it was the LGBT flag, in the flag the colors are arranged in order according to the real rainbow, and there are six colors. In the picture there are seven and they are in the wrong order.
So no matter whatever you say, it's wrong. Nice video anyway.
MastermindX 1 year ago
Great video!
praestant8 1 year ago
I LOVE this video, especially your closing statements!
Mommieoftwo 2 years ago 2
I really wish that the prop 8 trial would be broadcast. I understand that the lawyers have been cross examining of those who choose the language of the adds. This proves a point that these people are now ashamed of broadcasting these this putting millions of dollars behind it. I have sympathy for them because they should fear that people will attach names and faces with the chosen language of these adds that took away people's rights
lilclarinets 2 years ago
We have to stop this sick people! they just wanna fight... God Loves everybody, gay, small, big, green, red, even the people in this homophobic spot. come on people get a live! and stop fucking orund our "diabolic" gay lives
eskoberkusen 2 years ago
i like this... im a gay man and recently in my country -mexico- aproove the gay marrige, and adoption, im trying really hard to defend my oun rights! and my future, the freedom...
eskoberkusen 2 years ago 2
you got awesome arguments it is a good slap on the NOM face
liotie 2 years ago 23
really really well done
morguebabe 2 years ago 3
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smackfags 2 years ago
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Sean, I have asked these questions of you repeatedly but you seem unable or unwilling to answer.
You repeatedly speak of rights being denied to homosexuals. What specific 'right' do you believe is being denied?
Where did that right come from?
Is it enumerated somewhere?
Is it 'deeply rooted in this Nation's history and tradition,' and 'implicit in the concept of ordered liberty'?
nnjhansen 2 years ago
what right!? what about all men are equal?
xchibikyubix 2 years ago
All men are equali in the eyse of the law. All men are equal with regard to marriage. What is your point?
nnjhansen 2 years ago
...and as a couple, as in love as any straight man and woman, they are being denied equality. They are being denied understanding. They are being denied acceptance. Do you think that a gay man/woman is gay just to piss you off? Do you think that he/she would choose that life? Most times, no. The road to being a homosexual is a road filled with persecution, hate and bigotry, which they have to encounter at every turn. From parents, from family, and from poorly educated people like you.
mjharvey100 2 years ago 2
Couples are not entitled to equality. Individuals are.
No one is entitled to understanding or acceptance.
I could not care less why a person is homosexual as it is irrelevant to this discussion.
nnjhansen 2 years ago
Hey, have you ever realised that couples are made up of individuals?
Android18uk 1 year ago
Baseball teams are also made up of individuals. What is your point?
nnjhansen 1 year ago
It still applies, are you saying the members of a baseball team wouldn't have the same individual rights simply because they are in a group? That is illogical
Android18uk 1 year ago
Of course they would but the team itself would have no rights. The individuals who make up a couple have the exact same rights as other individuals as well.
nnjhansen 1 year ago
@nnjhansen I see: a mixed-race couple is not entitled to understanding and acceptance. Nice.
MjoEm32 1 year ago
No, you are well within your rights to deny anyone you want your understanding and acceptance.
nnjhansen 1 year ago
Not until what "understanding and acceptance" are better specified. Moreover there's a difference between what is right and what is good.
MjoEm32 1 year ago
You believe someone can be compelled to accept something?
Are we discussing law or morality?
nnjhansen 1 year ago
Gay couples are being denied the right to marriage. Although you remain seemingly unaware, being married through the government hosts many benefits. Without a marriage, a couple cannot file joint taxes and are also denied numerous estate planning, government, medical, death, family, housing, and consumer benefits, along with countless other benefits and protections. By infringing on their right to marry, you are infringing on their right to these benefits. Any other questions nnjhanson????
mjharvey100 2 years ago 2
Couples have no rights, only individuals have rights.
Even assuming that there exists a right to marry, that right has always been subject to state imposed conditions and restrictions.
The state issues marriage licenses not so that the individuals who receive them can receive benefits but because society as a whole has a vested interest in the relationship. The benefits that society grants to a married couple are a function of the potential consequence that couple has for society.
nnjhansen 2 years ago
That is REALLY good responce!Very sincere and honest. I'm a straight Irish catholic and you have 100% of my support, for what its worth.
twinklemollflossyred 2 years ago 30
@twinklemollflossyred I am a straight German/French/Swedish/American Indian Catholic/All American, and you have 100% of my support too.
Great video. You are awesome.
watertower12 2 years ago 2
yey forrest gump
OnlyStarsCanShine91 2 years ago
Excellent reply video, support you all the way.
horsedn 2 years ago
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When will the evil state governments of Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, Vermont, and New Hampshire give their citizens a chance to vote on "gay marriage"???
MaryWaterton 2 years ago
MaryWaterton, unless you are joking, your comment suggests that you are comically out of touch with what it means to be gay and human, not to mention paints you as a hateful, arrogant and borderline-supremacist bigot of a person.
SeanChapin1 2 years ago 10
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No sir, I am not joking. I'm calling upon the state governments of Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, Vermont, and New Hampshire to give their citizens a chance to vote against "gay marriage".
MaryWaterton 2 years ago
Worried your right to be prejudiced might be taken away? Oh dear.
MjoEm32 2 years ago 3
Lets vote on if blacks and whites getting married, how about vote on if fat people can gat married, how about ungly people getting married... I can make great points on each of them why someone should get married... But then again, it doesn't have anything to do with my life and my home so why should I have a say in your marriage.....
usapegasus007 2 years ago
Im wondering when we'll get a chance to vote on the ERA......after all, everybody knows that women are to emotional, and unstable to be relied on to vote competently. They should stick with bearing children and baking cakes.
clubindiana4 2 years ago
evil governments are the ones that actually put this up for a vote, not the ones that are pro equality mary
idaman12345 2 years ago
@MaryWaterton the same time we get to vote on whether you get civil rights
jonpetry 1 year ago
@MaryWaterton right after religion gets banned
idaman12345 1 year ago
@MaryWaterton when will you wake up and realize religion is a sham?
and that those "evil governments" were really doing what is right
idaman12345 1 year ago
The ending "look at me" part was very simple, yet very powerful.
totter2 2 years ago
well said man! everything in that ad is just made up stuff, excuses excuses excuses! They cant make any good points... take their freedom away?
as if!
If same sex marriage is legalized, that just gives more people freedom! Freedom that the goverment can recodnize that LOVE KNOWS NO GENDER!!!
Chibiicap 2 years ago
well said! (i wasn't expecting such a serious response after watching george takei and all the other parodies but this is quite effective and wonderful, thanks!)
flio191 2 years ago
Thank you I couldn't have said it better myself
Gays are harming any1 by living their life
Thanksx Subscribed
MammaMiaChick1 2 years ago
Absolutely wonderful. Couldn't have put it better myself. Kudos for stepping up and challenging this head on ! <3
xCupOJavax 2 years ago
I find it funny how they completely ignore Canada. You know, in all aspects. Economy, free health-care, and legal gay marriage?
lightdark99 2 years ago 5
I'm a Canadian, and they ignore Canada because we are like the cousin who jumps into human rights fearlessly, and realize the earth won't burst into flame because progress is made and peoples' lives are made better. In Canada, we are not afraid of the concept of social democracy - we look out for one another up here in the Great White North - we may not all understand one another from coast to coast to coast, but we respect and don't fear each other.
moeguy222 2 years ago 3
NICE!!! Way to call out these card-carrying members of the KKK!!!
WorldBFree2006 2 years ago
I didn't watch this to the end but what didn't you get? the original film was made as a piss take to fight FOR gay marriage
darkwizzard 2 years ago
Lol no, go to the site on the original video. That was a real ad for people who want to BAN gay marriage.
lightdark99 2 years ago
Thank you so much for this video. It's so hard to reason with someone who is affected by these kinds of fear-mongering, hateful ads. Even my own parents started worrying about gay marriage after this ad aired (I'm a lesbian woman). I'm emailing this now!
whisper180 2 years ago 3
wow good jup
SEXYmikey321 2 years ago
another great movie ;-),,,,and thank you for all the work you do for all of us
hellophoenix 2 years ago
oh hun! your so cute! you could never start a storm
wills24 2 years ago
THANK YOU!!!!! You are so well spoken. I subscribed AND shared it on my FB! Thank you again. The commercial made me cry when I saw it! You have put a smile on my face!
FreeLetto 2 years ago
you are awsome
joni909 2 years ago
Your arguments are rational, sensible, spoken in plain language (and calmly too), and non-confrontational. Well done!
penpusher77 2 years ago 4
Tha harder it rains and storms, the brighter and more beautiful the raniow will be afterwards.
Stand strong, and let our colors shine!! ^_^
TheAnimegurl1990 2 years ago 5
Great video!!! NOM are a pathetic bunch of liars trying to scare people to believe gays are some kind of threat...
MarkieWatch100 2 years ago 5
hi I seen that infomercial or whatever ya wanna call it n couldnt believe what a stab it was to human beings minding their own business. Thats the problem so much in america everyone is in eachothers business far too much. Good luck i hope one day gays get marriage and adoption rights and not looked down upon so much. Like u said blacks and women are = now its time for gays now. Im a christian anddo believe everyone is loved by god regardless. God accepts all . Take care all reading n with march
chrissys31 2 years ago 7
I am a resident of NJ, and the church in question lost the court case because it tried to prevent a civil union on "public property". Such a posture is dead against all NJ law. It's pretty sad that a religious institution would misrepresent facts to take away someone else's civil liberties.
paulsboroman 2 years ago 9
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I love how you approached all of this rationally and calmly! We need more of that, lately.
samonmars 2 years ago 4
Bravo!
aflunky 2 years ago 4
good video!
I was so upset about that ad! X/
ensittare 2 years ago 4
after every storm theres a rainbow!
queerveganliberal 2 years ago 9
Dude, great vid
Kevstar19 2 years ago 3
Turtle, you're logic is so incredibly flawed. One does not "turn" gay. Clearly you would be someone who would definitely not want to be gay, so how can you say "everyone" will turn gay when you yourself would resist such change?
Your fears are irrational, and are based on a lack of understanding. Have you even met a gay person?
Trmpet 2 years ago 2
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The LORD create Adam and Eve and not Adam and Bill or Eve and Evon. If Everybody turn Homosexual and Men married Men and women married Women. In about 50 years the country would fall with no children produced for there would be no one left to carry on.
turtle4aire 2 years ago
turtle4aire, I disagree with you - I believe that God created all of us as we are, and that God loves all of us. I don't think that everyone is going to turn gay...there's probably between 3.5% to 5% of people in the USA that are gay, and I don't see that number significantly rising, so I'm sure that overall human reproduction will be fine. That doesn't mean that gay people are not useful, as many of us raise children in loving households in contributing back to society.
SeanChapin1 2 years ago
Don't be silly. There's no evidence the number of gays has increased, and the population of the world continues to increase. So that argument is ridiculous.
Some people are born gay. Just get over it, and stop trying to impose your superstitions on other people.
MjoEm32 2 years ago 2
okay i gotta say u are a dumb bitch arent you just because same sex marrige is legalized dosent mean everyone then has to marry someone of the same sex or even turn gay u can still live you littl pathetic narrow minds as u have for centuries and leave the rest of us the fuck alone
Starchild0869 2 years ago 2
Well, I'm not going to turn gay just because gay marriage is legalized. Are you?
mirrormirrorify 2 years ago 5
the lord didnt create anything, it doesnt exist
idaman12345 2 years ago 2
there is no spoon.
rletuli78 2 years ago
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smackfags 2 years ago
great job on this video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank you for your response on it. I support this video 100% I hope one day to be the best women at my gay best friends wedding when he marrys his boy friend!!! so YAY to all types of marrige!!!
darkiwi789 2 years ago
"can we drop these silly lies and be adults here"
the simple answer is no, they will continue to lie and spread misinformation because its the only way the can fight for what they want now. They do this on every issue, Oboma's health plan, same sex marriage and evolutions(and any science that conflicts with the bible.) They will do this because they have no morals when it comes to god, there is only obedience and anything including murder is ok as long as its for god, they will do anything!
fireflygirl246 2 years ago 2
fireflygirl246, thanks for your wise post - I guess it goes to show that vigilance is a necessary virtue in any society at any point in time.
SeanChapin1 2 years ago
@fireflygirl246 When gay people sue churches because they won't let them get married in the church it's like throwing a pork chop at a Jewish synagog. It's rude. When the government says, "You can get married to someone of the opposite sex or not get married at all," it's like saying, "You can wear a yarmulke (Jewish hat) or no hat at all." It infringes on religious freedom. I want to get married in my church, not yours. We are Americans, not middle easterners who enforce religious laws.
Quizoid 1 year ago
@Quizoid A homosexual has no right to sue any church for not allowing there marriage there, just like a black person can not sue a racist church for not letting them get married there. The church can turn anyone away for any reason and they can not be sued, its basic religious freedom. What is being talked about in the gay marriage debate is only civil marriage not religious marriage. The government cant discriminate against anyone based on religion, sex, race or sexual orientation.
fireflygirl246 1 year ago
@fireflygirl246 I'm not sure what you're saying is what you believe to be fact, and what you want to have happen. I think you might have misunderstood me. Here's my basic stance and what I think is true. Churches should reserve the right to turn anyone away who wants to rent their space (this is not true in every state). The government should recognize same-sex marriage (this is not true in every state, or federally). Basically, I'm about freedom of religion (which is upheld in both cases).
Quizoid 1 year ago
@fireflygirl246 I might also add that any thing that might be considered "comunist" or "socialist" are frowned apon as well, witch was why the heath plan got warped and perverted. Oh well >.>
xchibikyubix 1 year ago
Thanks for this video. I've seen lots of parodies but not quite enough criticisms of that ignorant, bigoted advert.
theHouseCat 2 years ago
marry me!
sacradictus 2 years ago
marry me!
sacradictus 2 years ago
Awesome video!
thanatos101b 2 years ago
i'm not gay but i know gay people frinds famly people. gay Marriage is just like anyother marriage you got two people who love one in othere how does that hurt us you tell me
ness1105 2 years ago
*claps*THANK YOU!!! i saw that commercial and was like..ur kidding...right?
thatonegirl513 2 years ago
Who Gives A Fuck
Substance1989 2 years ago
Thanks for your penetrating critique there "Substance".
Are you actually attempting to be ironic, or are you, as I would guess, utterly fucking clueless?
XavierNinnis 2 years ago
Thanks for your penetrating critique there "substance".
BTW Are you really making a stab at being ironic, or is it, as would be my guess, a case of your being utterly fucking clueless?
XavierNinnis 2 years ago
!#$%&* voices, begone, stop tormenting me!
errr, sorry 'bout that... say, by the way, has anyone noticed an echo in here or did I forget to take my meds?
XavierNinnis 2 years ago
Um, lots of people?
theHouseCat 2 years ago
Fantastic video :]
systmofadown676 2 years ago
i... i love you o_ o Your right. My question to this ad would be "how is your freedom being taken away? I mean you can still do what you want just as long as you don harm anyone."
ImSpedcial 2 years ago 3
Amazing. You're so right. I'm bisexual, and I too respect other people's beliefs. But really, something like this that was put out.. is just so condescending. What do we do besides live our lives and try to be happy? Honestly. Everyone needs to grow up, and see past such minor things.
Keeah 2 years ago
you sir, are a genius. I completely agree with everything you are saying. if we all just opened our eyes and o