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  • That is good to know.

  • I used to use match heads to make small little loud firecrackers. I guess it can work for guns too.

  • for primers, you just need to undent the face of the primer with a steel punch and add a 50/50 mix of safety match head powder(potassium chlorate) and phosphorus scrapped from the striker on the box, the mix makes something called "armstrong's mix", a impact sensitive primary explosive mix used in the past for making percussion caps and primers. you can make it safer to handle by boiling the match head powder at a high temperature and letting the liquid dry on it's own, you should try it.

  • thise is exelent idea i had a thought if you added maggniseum from a fire starter to the matches might increase the power but thise thought of hey no powder now what thats briliant

  • but type of round is key. Birdshot does not work well on deer. Buckshot does not work well on quail. 22lr full metal jacket will kill both and for every 1 ounce shotgun round I can carry 16 rounds of 22lr for the same waight.thats 15 more chanses

  • @lplay4keeps .22LR is a single shot cartridge though, once you run out of cartridges, you can't do anything else with the gun. a shotgun can be used like in the video and be used a lot longer than the .22,

  • @flamedrag18 Well, I cant argue with that. Shotgun ammo can be reloaded. IF you can find the highly valued commodities to reload it..! A box of fifty primers are $5 bucks. the same price of 50 reliable .22lr bullets professionally loaded. Or homemade primers that are unreliable as hell and the shell will be greatly underpowered…

  • I don't think so. It's flammable, but not explosive. It need oxygen to breathe into fire wich it wouldn't get being in an enclosed barrel. Fine saw dust does the same as the coffee creamer. So ask yourself, " could I use saw dust as an alternative to gun powder"? Think the answer would be no!

  • @jadabull requires an oxidizer.

  • I saw on Myth Busters that powdered coffee creamer is extremely flammable. Is that a possible replacement for black powder?

  • Dave keep up with the good work.One question how do you know if plants are poisonus or not?

  • FIRST OFF, GREAT VIDEOS DAVE… THANKS FOR YOUR GREAT JOB…

    None of this is going to be worth a damn if you don’t have primers…! I can carry 100 rounds of .22lr for $7 and believe me, with a head shot you can take anything but bear at 50 yards. $7 will only buy 25 size 7 12gauge shells. Only 5 rounds 00buck. Squirrel, rabbit, ducks in a pond, to deer and elk with .22lr. Lighter, weather resistant, further distance, one type, full metal jacket round does it all. how can you go wrong...

  • @lplay4keeps part of the beauty of a shotgun is that precision isn't key, though, imo

  • By the way, you can take any size shot shell and cut it all around the shell at the wad, all but a bit to hold the shell together and when fired the cut shell and load becomes a slug or a Glaser round. Just more options…

  • what about mixing half the black powder from the bullet and half the sulfur? Kinda like mixing cattail pollen with flour to make it last longer. Get more bang for your buck

  • what kind of jacket are you wearing? is it from king of the mountain? great vids man!!!

  • I won't go into too much detail because I don't want to be liable for anyone's actions but pioneers used to gather and process bat guano (and I know you have bats). The nitrate content in guano is extremely high and if worked through a simple process(which i wont explain) and added to regular powdered sugar as your oxidizer.. you're pretty much set. There are other trace chemicals that are easy to acquire that can give it more oomph as well. 

  • I knew a dude that blew his thumb off of his hand playing with strike anywhere match heads. Use extreme caution. Great video.

  • ppl purinated in their houses on the dirt floor at one time....and in the spring would dig the dirt of the floor up and leach pot nitrate out of the soil( sounds yuck ) sulfer is the fuel in black powder.....so use something with high calorie = so if you can make sugar from something natural ....that would work. and as you said willow was what ppl liked to use for the charcoal in black powder.

  • Are you going to do any casting of slugs or pouring of shot?

  • Cool... but I think I'll stick with the Greendot, or Unique.

  • Hey Dave while researching black powder I was reading over the wikipedia page on gunpowder. about a quarter of the way down the page is a section on sulfur free gun powder would this be an option for reloading?

  • There is a way to reload Primers with strike any where matches. tools are needed. check out ammosmith

  • Matches are great! I used to use them for bombs years ago. If you strike it with a hammer, and it goes off, it burns fast and makes good explosives.

  • I wonder how big those river rocks were...?

  • It'll work in a muzzleloader,too.Caps are cheap.

  • whoa, thats fucking awsome. Hey dave would you be able to use the strike on the box wooden matches or can you only use strike anywere matches?

  • Now if I remember correctly there is a powder somwhere that is made from a ground plant. Now of course that wasn't the only thing used but it maybe somthing to research on.

  • I realy love the track on the beginning and so I play it over and over again!

    Have someone the name?

  • Question for Dave, I am in need of a new cover(hat). I would appreciate your opinion on your own head gear. I like the style of the cover you wore in Peru. In my searching I haven’t found a product that I feel will last. My debates are Felt vs. synthetic. Brim size. Waterproof vs. breathability. I feel that this is a very important part of our kit and I could use some of your experience and insight. Thanks brother! God Speed, Semper P

  • Happy New years to all, may 2012 be easy. Dave not sure if its coinsidence, but on your video for your shot kit I asked about making powder if stuck in the bush. No pun intended, lol. Either way cool video. You do a great job expressing the skills you have aquired.

  • Love the video Dave, happy New Year and many more to you and your family.

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  • Dave, I looked at every video on your site. Old peoples New Years Eve ya know... Anyway, I could not find any video on how you built your Yurt. Can you do a video on how you made the yurt. I looked around as much as I could in the videos but would like to know more.

    The best of New Years to you and your family.

  • Finally you found a use for carring MATCHES LOL

  • What is used for the primer?or are you supposed to have those on hand as well?just curious

  • Sugar replaces the sulphur you can do a search easy enuff and their are vids on YouTube just be careful careful if you proceed

  • Great topic Dave, I would also put in a plug for the Foxfire series awesome info and stories of olde. There are also methods of making "White Powder" as an alternitive it is sugar based, thought I'd mention it BP makers prob have already came across this. There was a commercial blend that used to be on the market prob 20 yrs ago don't think it's available any more, forgot the name. Keep your powder dry children...

  • That's great! I haven't seen anyone use match heads for gun powder since Higgins did it on Magnum PI.

  • FoxFire! Yes, awesome material.

  • look up brother 2 , how to make a gun............it should be the first thing u see

  • this video is were i first learned of a similar method........pretty cool as well.....

  • isnt amonia nitrate commonly found in chichen manure? i guess im fortunate enough to live in the south, as sulfur can be found in most of the water here.

  • Awesome video

  • Smoked that hide!

    

  • Wierd in that the matchsticks are coated with a fire retardant.

  • Happy New Year to all

  • You better of cleaned that gun. So I have an idea...take a little water boil it add the match heads in a powder form. Then the use of potassium carbonate (in the form of wood ashes) mix that in let that solution dry...I believe that should take out the calcium and magnesium. But i believe somewhere in this process you need to piss in a cup of water and mix that in.

  • Dave

    considering how the .22lr is so common, how about showing us how to (safely) use the powder out of some .22 shells to reload a .12 gauge shell?

  • "I wouldn't carry matches if you gave them to me" -Dave C. LOL!

  • sorry dude gotta unsubscribe all this yurt stuff.

  • i saw you on dual survivor

  • @berto13579 Duh

  • @ChaseSchieferPhotos yeah i live in sweden so i didn't know that lol

  • An easy way to get the stuff off the head is to pinch it with a pliers and it falls of really easily once you've done hat

  • to make the 12Ga more useful in a BOB situation after you've run out of ammo is to use it as a club and make a bow,

  • Whats Your Favorite 12 Gauge that you would recomend?

  • try 50% match head and 50% fine charcoal ;)

  • Dave, To reload the primers, uses just the white part of the strike anywhere match head. Use a nail small enough to fit into the prime from the inside of the shell. Round the point of the nail off.

    Set the shell head on a broad and use the rounded nail point to pound out the firing pin depression in the primer. Then load the primer with the powdered white head. Pack it in well and full.

  • @survivethat2012 could you please make a video of this, thanks

  • i did not know this, thanks.......you shaved!

  • Happy New year guys.

  • YOUR BEARD!!!!!!

    

  • And you said you didn't like match's *L*

  • Hey dave is it just me or have you lost weight during this whole yurt adventure?  lookin svelte brotha

  • Happy New Year Dave!

  • I wonder if you scraped off the stuff on sparklers if that would work.

  • @Deathtakeslast sparklers are made with magnesium thy would melt the shells and mess up the guns at best

  • when i was a kid i had a blank firing gun and when i ran out of blanks i took apart the primer and very carefully placed a red match head between the cup and anvil. this worked very well ,iam not telling anyone to try this at home

  • what's felt recoil like?

    you should chronograph and compare the propellants.

    could you reload primers with strike-anywhere matches too then?

    

  • WARNING! Do this OUTSIDE! I ran out and tried to do this in my shop, on my bench, and just about ended out the year without a house!

  • what about staying with the 40 head mix & dropping the load size down to 50 - 75 grains ?

    but VERY impressive never the less ...

  • Black powder is easily made from scratch .............. I saw Captain Kirk do it and he killied a giant lizard person to boot! Joking!

    Great video Dave, I would like to try this myself.

  • @BEARwidme I almost typed the same comment. the creature was the "Gorn" He shot it with a handful of diamonds shot from a cannon made from a 6 inch diameter hunk of bamboo packed with his homemade space gunpowder and wrapped with rope to handle the pressure. But I think Dave could kick Kirk's butt any day of the week.

  • I've seen reloadable primers before. They use strike anywhere match heads as well. Would the combo of match head primer and match head powder actually ignite?

    Were you using your brass carriages or just spent plastic?

    Awesome addition to the series Guys. Love the ingenuity and creativity. Keep em' coming.

  • Hey you should do a survival challenge with your son and see who can pack a better survival kit and make the nest survival shelter?

  • Bow and arrow anyone?

  • You're right about air rifles. Even Lewis and Clark carried some in large caliber. It would be interesting to see how that was done.

  • I sure would have like to have seen Ron Hood and Dave do some videos together.

  • It seems like, if you are talking about a long-term survival situation, using up matches in this way would border on wasting resources and put you at the point where it is time to find a sapling and make a spear or a bow.

  • Dave, I just saw a video about cut shot (shotgun shells that have been cut in such a way that part of the shell forms a cup that keeps the shot from spreading, making a kind of poorman's slug) Could you tell us about the advantages vs dangers of this trick?

  • What about some humble bow hunting?

  • Have you ever tried a hardwood slug? Great series.

  • Dave, have you considered adding a blend of sugar to the match heads? I would expect that the ignition of the match heads would burn the sugar - creating a larger expansion of gases within the barrel. This could reduce the amount of match head processing required to get that "hot round", although I bet it would leave you with a pretty dirty barrel.

  • @N0RSEH0RSE What does the sugar do?

  • @N0RSEH0RSE What does the sugar do?

  • @N0RSEH0RSE you may have some caramel along the barrel ?

  • not to be knite picker the shot went throw the hide but will it go throw bone like the ribs some times that is where the it ends but it is a good alturnative to powder of any kind keep them coming

  • That's why I love this channel. Thanks Dave.

  • Hi Dave. Any ideas on how to replace the primer, may be a self strike match head? It seems I had heard this a long time back. Thanks and a Blessed New Year to you and your family. JJD

  • Where can you get strike any where matches?  I have been looking for months.

  • @pommell1 WalMart

  • @ChirpyMike I think they quit making the red ones. The new ones are green and barely light even on the side of the box strike zone. I think they wanted to make them safer, and having matches that can't start a fire are much safer than matches that can. lol.

  • @fastacker2 true. I get RedBird strike anywhere...500 for $4.

  • Hey dave, I've read they have used both bat guano and bird poop for the sulfate. If you have a cave with a large enough bat population, that could take care of that problem.

  • Happy new year Dave

  • thanks dave! The R&D was right on. Please, show us how to load the shell with the primer etc. I have seen a few videos online, but I would like to see your loading technique.

    Sincerely,

    CT

  • Dave, there is something you might want to look into, reusable primers!! libertyreferences(.com)/reusab­le-primer(.shtml)

  • to get nitrate it take over a year to make properly

  • @MrHunter90210 I've heard something about extracting it from manure piles. Don't really know the chemistry behind it though. Science fail on my part I guess.

  • awesome info

    

  • Vary nice

  • Very cool! Great result. Happy New Year! Sepp

  • Couldn't figure why Dave was "grinding" the heads of the matches with a wooden stick?? I gave it a try and decided to "scrape" the heads off with a knife. That works great UNTIL.... you miss and ignite one! then you lose all you've done or like me start a less than 5 SECOND fire Dave would not be proud of! I caught the entire box on fire!! Also, DO IT OUTSIDE - NOT on your workbench. Damn, I can be dumb sometimes!

  • @Joe55darter Sounds like something I would do lol

  • potassium perclorate

  • You got any bats living in those caves or yours? See:

    "During this period, the major natural sources of potassium nitrate were the deposits crystallizing from cave walls and the accumulations of bat guano in caves. Traditionally guano was the source used in Laos for the manufacture of gunpowder for Bang Fai rockets.2"

  • @LittlePetieWheat I believe the British government did their potassium nitrate extraction from horse stables. Actually setting up inspectors to go around and make sure no one was keeping it for themselves. They effectively nationalized all the stables in England.

  • What are you going to use for a primer when reloading spent rounds?

  • Match heads, who wooda thunk. Yes, the BB shot is the best. I'm hoping that the 60 match head and 6 river rock load penetrated both sides of the hide? I wouldn't suggest that is a big game load, but it would due for self defense? See if it'll penetrate (2) 1 gal milk jugs. Perhaps a wax slug? It would be nice to see a 60 match head BB shot load. I don't know how to check for excessive pressures in a shotgun, but would be at least checking the used shell and primer for abnormalities

  • @InTheSticks0001 I might try a BB shot or rock shot in a cotton or nylon bag ala bean bag that penetrates, loosing it's ability to contain the shot on impact...a possible SD round.

  • Hi dave great work you doing with the yurt and all , just wish you and your family a happy new year from ireland.

  • Dave, I really like the Matchhead powder for the 12GA. Is it possible to work a load for a Rifle Round like the 30.06?

    Keep up the good work, God Bles you and yours, Harold

  • @Mysticintent dont take this as gospel but i believe that rifle loads use a much faster burning nitrous powder...it is needed to force the bullet through the rifling...

  • @zimchaz Yes if you do not have the power of smokeless powder i.e. underpowered bullet your squib it in the barrel. That is why the SS is so good as the riflings require more power.

    Besides if it gets that bad just club a cow with your 06. LOL

  • @zimchaz All smokeless powder is nitrocellulose based. Shotgun powder burns much faster than rifle powder.

  • @Mysticintent I have a book titled "HOMEMADE GUNS AND HOMEMADE AMMO" By Ronald B. Brown ISBN 0-915179-39-3 that states 74 match heads for 30-06 also of interest check out U.S. Army Manual TM 31-210

  • @TheFlintnSteel good stuff! thanks! :)

  • Matchheads should work. They are made of potassium chlorate, sulfur, glass shard and animal glue. Confined = a big boom!

  • @Mysticintent IMR4895 Almost a universal powder and designed for the 06. Using several reloading books, one can find a load using this powder for almost every single cartridge and bullet weight combination. Research on line for articles. There are turkey loads using 110grain FMJ RN to Brown Bear, a load for any purposed. Even FMJ bullets can be installed backwards for a poor mans soft point and deer load. Good for 200 yards per Elmer Kieth. I've only tried a few.

  • @InTheSticks0001 Seating the bullets backwards sound really dangerous. Then again I've never tried it myself so I may be worked up over nothing.

  • @colddrake80 Look up The Box O'Truth, where a couple of old guys do all the ballistic testing that their hearts desire by shooting stuff up. They provide detailed instructions on how to extract the FMJ, and remounting the bullet backwards. They documented the results and offer conclusions. As a poor man's soft point, the influential gun writer Elmer Keith found this Depression era practice effective on Class 2 game (deer), and reported that it worked good out to 200 yards.

  • @InTheSticks0001 It is only the exceptional hunter that can take game with a FMJ bullet by hitting the spine in the neck or hitting the brain with a head shot. In fact even those using magnum cartridges and the correct soft point ammunition often miss a heart and lung shot and loose the animal Do not try this unless desperate for food. You can easily miss and never find it tracking, and the animal suffers. Using the correct ammunition greatly improves the chance of success.

  • @InTheSticks0001 Oh, I'm familiar with The Box O'Truth. Haven't seen the test you described but it sounds interesting.

    Also, you've clearly mistaken me for someone who isn't lily livered about such thing ;-)

    Thanks for the info I'll have to look into it.

  • Happy New Year Dave and thanks for all the great vids in 2011 ! You are an inspiration .

  • Was so intent in watching/listening that I almost didnt notice.. But then WHAM! Damn near fell out of my chair even. Plum smack in broad daylight no less. Dave in.. blue jeans¡!

  • Try a 70 match load with 100 grain bb load. Smaller lead shot would be even better, but I understand using the bb's as they are more readily found in an emergency type of scenario. My friend claims to have tried 100 match heads to 100 grains of projectile, but I don't know, that sounds a little too hot for my taste.

  • Nice.

  • Dave, there's directions for making saltpeter from manure available online.

  • Where did you find the matches strike anywhere matches can be a bit of a pain to find sometimes

  • Santa has left the Yurt !

  • Pretty cool stuff, never even thought about match heads as gunpowder. Have a great New Year!

  • YOU SHAVED! :O

  • @pinoy7tfc you win a cookie captain obvious

  • @officialMC and you dont, captain sarcastic.

  • You can also try potassium chlorate and sugar, sodium chlorate and sugar, potassium perchlorate and sugar, and saltpeter and sugar.

  • @yeno34 for the love of God dont do that.

  • burn seaweed use pidgen poo or human (its not as good) but it's doable..

  • Not sure I'll ever need to make a shotgun round out of match heads and river rocks, but it's something to remember. These techniques do offer options and options are always good to have.

  • Try 33 match heads with the strike anywhere tip removed. You can reload the primers with the match head tip. At least that is what my book says. It gets that information from an army improvised weapons based on loading 58 match heads in a .308 round so, thats 1.5 grains of match head for every grain of smokeless.

  • Interesting idea..but seems like I would rather keep the matches for fire making and hang the firearm up and use a bow or sling bow for game.

    If I had random cartridges that don't fit my guns I would pull them and experiment with them for safe charges..

  • dave you can find the components of black powder in grainuel stump remover and garden fertilizer for sulfur and the stump remover for potassium nitrate

  • so you did see my comment ! cool. it really is a shame the components arent even close to readily available out in the bush. i wouldnt have thought of the matchheads. surprised they work as well as they do!

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  • I know a guy out west here that makes his own powder. He uses native Willow for the charcoal and I think the sulfur and saltpeter from online. His powder is every bit as potent as what is commercially available. 

  • for those asking you can reload primers with match head just like the shells but you need to hammer out the dent before you reload .. the safest way to reseed the primer is a simple C clamp. it takes 2 or so match heads per primer . depending on shell size .

  • I would still like to see a video on making homemade black powder. I think it would be fascinating and NO I wouldn't try it myself. The fingers never leave the hand and I like it that way.

  • This is totally off topic but have you considered air rifles? Granted a pellet gun is another piece of equipment to be carried but a lot of pellets can be carried with ease and if you get a pump pellet gun you don't need propellent.

  • @colddrake80 Air Rifles are great for small game.

  • Good to see you back with more videos, Dave!  Pretty ingenious, thinking way outside the box for this!

  • @WildManNatureBound How do you use matches for firefighting?

  • Great video and great information!

  • I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, but would that really be enough to take down a deer? I mean a rabbit is one thing, but I have shot deer with a .270 that have still managed to take off and keep going before they finally dropped and we had to track them for some time. I'm just saying is all...please do not jump all over my ass. I have the utmost respect for Dave and this entire series.

  • @superhornet69 It may not kill, but injure and maim. thus enabling a hunter to get close enough to dispatch the animal with alternate means such as a spear arrows atlatl etc...

  • @superhornet69 Well, it also demonstrates penetration. Deer hide is tougher than rabbit so if pebbles can punch through that it will do a job on a rabbit. Rabbits aren't very tough.

  • I love this series !!!! Keep em coming !

  • Dave, Love the series. You've dropped some pounds. You ought to be running a weight loss camp out of the yurt. Call it P-O-U-N-D -- Pathfinder Outdoor Utilitarian Nutritional Diet. Anyway, you look healthy. Happy New Year!

  • How exactly do you reload the primer cap? This is in response to the white tip match comments.

  • @lawfin60 Search google and youtube for "reloading primers" and viola!

  • You have solved the powder issue, but what about something to take the place of a primer? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but it seams logical that if you need to reload shotgun shells with homemade powder, that the primer on the shell has been spent as well. I don't have an answer to this, but maybe you do?

  • @lawfin60 i'm thinking the same thing. Is there a good alternative to primers one could use in an emergency/bug-out type situation?

  • @lawfin60 when I was a kid my dad used 4 caps from my cap gun for a primer, also would take the powder out of the wrapper the caps came in. but this was 30 years ago so not sure if the powder is same now. He also fired small 25 cal pumpkin balls he called them from a old toy metal musket gun... so not the safest man for sure....

  • I was just watching dual survival with I think the guys name is Cody. You were out setting a trap for beaver and he built a TP shelter. I forgot what you guys said it was called.

  • @deepwater1974 If you are talking about the shelter I believe it was a basic inuit shelter. The episode is on YouTube; as I remember it is called, "Dual Survival Slash and Burn" so you can watch it again to see what it was.