@silentghost23, German troops were of course very admirable soldiers and thankfully not depraved and never committed rape of women and children and never disrespected other races and religions. Theirs was a war of "liberation"... not of conquest like the British and American allies of those Communist rats. I also believe cows can fly.
To bad that Greece continued German nazi policy after they got rid of the Nazis toward ethnically non-Greek population of Greece. And it continued to do so up to today with its not recognizing non-Greek minority policy. So I must conclude that Greece is a fascist state still to this date.
The germans under the nazi regime deserved what they got from the Russians. I would never accuse the russians for the acts they comitted on german soil. If you knew how many people the germans massacred, you would never go so far as to say the russians were the bad guys. I think that after seeing your whole family killed, and your countrymen dead in mass graves, you'd want a little revenge, right? If you don't you're just a flat out liar.
@leonenaj Understandable, perhaps, but justifiable, no. Do you really believe each and every last German woamn raped by a Russian soldier deserved it for what Hitler and the Nazis did? Would you accept such a rationalization if the women of your country were so treated by soldiers of a country wronged by your government? Stalin killed more people than Hitler -- most of them civilian Slavs! Or try 6 million Jews vs. 3x as many Ukranians starved to cover up Stalin's poor economic skills....
During the Soviet offensive and the subsequent retreat to Sevastopol, the 17th Army lost 12,221 Germans and 17,652 Romanians until 16 April 1944. In total 73,058 people reached safety in Romania during the first phase of the evacuation: 28,394 Germans, 20,779 Romanians, 723 Slovaks, 15,055 Russian volunteers, 2,559 POWs and 3,748 civilians.
Ancient emnities? I think this is a dangerous misrepresentation of history. The worst conflicts between croats and serbs were almost exclusively restricted to the 20th century. Also, I dislike the how some historians don't know the difference between different communist and socialist states. It's all one communism to them.
Gotta feel so for some of this countries as the Nazis were falling back and the Iron Curtain fell on them. Thankfully Greece and my ancestors never fell under those Communist rats after WW2 but so many others did. Soviet troops were animals, commiting rapes on innocent women and their depravity shows no bounds.
@silentghost23 Though 2 wrongs do not make it right, you do realize that the red army had crossed there own territory where they found that the Germans had not just raped women, but had completely eradicated and genocided millions of Russian civilians, man, woman, and children? That is no exuse to rape, but it could have been far worse if given more time to exact revenge.
I dont think Poland, Yugoslavia, Romania, etc was their own territorry before the war started. Theres no denying the crimes the Nazis committed but after the war, the Soviet Union was the only benefactor. A country like Poland for example, which Great Britain and France declared war on Germany for was just given to the Soviets so Poland had to trade one oppression for another.
@silentghost23 I meant that when the Nazis invaded the western frontier of the Soviet Union, east of Poland, Hungary, and Romania, they were ordered to exterminate populations because they didn't have enough garrison troops to keep the peace in the vast conquered territories. As the Red Army liberated their territories they found the mass graves and piles of bodies of their genocided countrymen/women/children. After seeing what had been done, rape may have been a light revenge.
@silentghost23 AΝΑΡΩΤΙΕΜΑΙ ΕΑΝ Ο ΠΑΠΠΟΥΣ ΣΟΥ ΗΤΑΝ ΣΥΝΕΡΓΑΤΗΣ ΤΩΝ ΓΕΡΜΑΝΩΝ ΕΚΕΙΝΑ ΤΑ ΧΡΟΝΙΑ ΚΑΙ ΜΕΤΑ ΤΩΝ ΑΓΓΛΩΝ ΚΑΙ ΤΩΝ ΑΜΕΡΙΚΑΝΩΝ. ΤΣΙΡΑΚΙ ΣΙΧΑΜΕΝΟ, ΑΙΩΝΙΟΣ ΡΑΓΙΑΣ ΤΩΝ ΞΕΝΩΝ ΚΑΤΑΚΤΗΤΩΝ.
@silentghost23 Yeah your greeks fell under a fascist regime with aprooval from the brits and the us for 50 years ( or probably still the most fascist country right after israel today) .Like that's better.
@silentghost23 Oh, so the ethnic cleansing the Germans did was OK right? The Russians were the bad people of the war because they sacrificed 20million lives to free Europe from the Nazi animals. Yet after all this, their final conduct is looked at. The Germans raped and killed women too you know? Fucking idiot. The only reason the Greeks were freed from the Germans was because of the Red Army you moron.
I guess the ancient hatred refers to the differences of opinion between the Catholic church and the various Orthodox churches regarding a few points in Christianity which couldn't be agreed on. The Croats and Serbs didn't start fighting each other until the 20th century. This fighting was mainly over land.
The pure ignorance of western historians and politicians has brought so much evil into this world its unbelievable. Its like they are to lazy to read a book ffs and god forbid that they actualy ask a person from the area they are learning about cos hes probably subjective and to illiterate to know his own history. pfft
And in the1st episode it says that the both sides hated the muslims??? That again is not true. Serbs hated the turks which i guess would be normal after 500 years under their rule but the muslims in yougoslavia at that time aren't turks they are slavs that changed religion during ottoman rule. And i mean realy which war in history started over religion? Not one its always either money land assets never religion even the crusades werent about religion.
Why do these british historians always talk about an ancient hatered between the orthodox serbs and catholic croats?? The 2 nations entered the kingdom of yougoslavia in 1918 this was the first time they had a chance to live together and to get to know eachother after 20 years of serbian dictatorship came 1941 and look at this now ancient hatered, didnt know 20 years make it ancient??
without communism/ eastern europeans = no space program, no electricity,etc... :D
MrPartizanac 1 month ago
@silentghost23, German troops were of course very admirable soldiers and thankfully not depraved and never committed rape of women and children and never disrespected other races and religions. Theirs was a war of "liberation"... not of conquest like the British and American allies of those Communist rats. I also believe cows can fly.
Rittisan 3 months ago
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NOT WELL MADE at all !!!
ivanslavov 3 months ago
To bad that Greece continued German nazi policy after they got rid of the Nazis toward ethnically non-Greek population of Greece. And it continued to do so up to today with its not recognizing non-Greek minority policy. So I must conclude that Greece is a fascist state still to this date.
NikNovi 9 months ago
Hitler=Stalin Fascism greatest enemy of Communism... Diplomacy is sure something not for everyone
TSAR373 9 months ago
commy dogs
immortal4942 10 months ago
The germans under the nazi regime deserved what they got from the Russians. I would never accuse the russians for the acts they comitted on german soil. If you knew how many people the germans massacred, you would never go so far as to say the russians were the bad guys. I think that after seeing your whole family killed, and your countrymen dead in mass graves, you'd want a little revenge, right? If you don't you're just a flat out liar.
leonenaj 1 year ago
@leonenaj Understandable, perhaps, but justifiable, no. Do you really believe each and every last German woamn raped by a Russian soldier deserved it for what Hitler and the Nazis did? Would you accept such a rationalization if the women of your country were so treated by soldiers of a country wronged by your government? Stalin killed more people than Hitler -- most of them civilian Slavs! Or try 6 million Jews vs. 3x as many Ukranians starved to cover up Stalin's poor economic skills....
tjhoenecke 9 months ago
That was end of ww2 and in the same time British politics plant the semen for the war who broke up 90s in this unlucky part of world.
MehanisedInfantry72 1 year ago
i think the narrator was very good
AZKOJYUN 1 year ago
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During the Soviet offensive and the subsequent retreat to Sevastopol, the 17th Army lost 12,221 Germans and 17,652 Romanians until 16 April 1944. In total 73,058 people reached safety in Romania during the first phase of the evacuation: 28,394 Germans, 20,779 Romanians, 723 Slovaks, 15,055 Russian volunteers, 2,559 POWs and 3,748 civilians.
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
This serial is fake. There is no story about Balkan.
SuperLatin33 1 year ago
Ancient emnities? I think this is a dangerous misrepresentation of history. The worst conflicts between croats and serbs were almost exclusively restricted to the 20th century. Also, I dislike the how some historians don't know the difference between different communist and socialist states. It's all one communism to them.
AnthorAlderian 1 year ago
Gotta feel so for some of this countries as the Nazis were falling back and the Iron Curtain fell on them. Thankfully Greece and my ancestors never fell under those Communist rats after WW2 but so many others did. Soviet troops were animals, commiting rapes on innocent women and their depravity shows no bounds.
Never let Communism rise again.
silentghost23 1 year ago 11
@silentghost23 Though 2 wrongs do not make it right, you do realize that the red army had crossed there own territory where they found that the Germans had not just raped women, but had completely eradicated and genocided millions of Russian civilians, man, woman, and children? That is no exuse to rape, but it could have been far worse if given more time to exact revenge.
Redbeardian 1 year ago
@Redbeardian
I dont think Poland, Yugoslavia, Romania, etc was their own territorry before the war started. Theres no denying the crimes the Nazis committed but after the war, the Soviet Union was the only benefactor. A country like Poland for example, which Great Britain and France declared war on Germany for was just given to the Soviets so Poland had to trade one oppression for another.
silentghost23 1 year ago
@silentghost23 I meant that when the Nazis invaded the western frontier of the Soviet Union, east of Poland, Hungary, and Romania, they were ordered to exterminate populations because they didn't have enough garrison troops to keep the peace in the vast conquered territories. As the Red Army liberated their territories they found the mass graves and piles of bodies of their genocided countrymen/women/children. After seeing what had been done, rape may have been a light revenge.
Redbeardian 1 year ago
@silentghost23 AΝΑΡΩΤΙΕΜΑΙ ΕΑΝ Ο ΠΑΠΠΟΥΣ ΣΟΥ ΗΤΑΝ ΣΥΝΕΡΓΑΤΗΣ ΤΩΝ ΓΕΡΜΑΝΩΝ ΕΚΕΙΝΑ ΤΑ ΧΡΟΝΙΑ ΚΑΙ ΜΕΤΑ ΤΩΝ ΑΓΓΛΩΝ ΚΑΙ ΤΩΝ ΑΜΕΡΙΚΑΝΩΝ. ΤΣΙΡΑΚΙ ΣΙΧΑΜΕΝΟ, ΑΙΩΝΙΟΣ ΡΑΓΙΑΣ ΤΩΝ ΞΕΝΩΝ ΚΑΤΑΚΤΗΤΩΝ.
stri2003 1 year ago
@silentghost23 rather be raped than sent to a concentration camp scummy nazi countries
spiderman1321 6 months ago
@silentghost23 Never again let greeks go on the internet and speak their minds. Go pray to your shitty god.
SoRAnubis 1 month ago
@silentghost23 Yeah your greeks fell under a fascist regime with aprooval from the brits and the us for 50 years ( or probably still the most fascist country right after israel today) .Like that's better.
dekidc 1 month ago
@silentghost23 Oh, so the ethnic cleansing the Germans did was OK right? The Russians were the bad people of the war because they sacrificed 20million lives to free Europe from the Nazi animals. Yet after all this, their final conduct is looked at. The Germans raped and killed women too you know? Fucking idiot. The only reason the Greeks were freed from the Germans was because of the Red Army you moron.
leonenaj 4 weeks ago
I guess the ancient hatred refers to the differences of opinion between the Catholic church and the various Orthodox churches regarding a few points in Christianity which couldn't be agreed on. The Croats and Serbs didn't start fighting each other until the 20th century. This fighting was mainly over land.
AmeriKa1050 2 years ago
The pure ignorance of western historians and politicians has brought so much evil into this world its unbelievable. Its like they are to lazy to read a book ffs and god forbid that they actualy ask a person from the area they are learning about cos hes probably subjective and to illiterate to know his own history. pfft
purica 2 years ago
And in the1st episode it says that the both sides hated the muslims??? That again is not true. Serbs hated the turks which i guess would be normal after 500 years under their rule but the muslims in yougoslavia at that time aren't turks they are slavs that changed religion during ottoman rule. And i mean realy which war in history started over religion? Not one its always either money land assets never religion even the crusades werent about religion.
purica 2 years ago
@purica
people sure do take sides and keep with those of their own religion
SS13E3 1 year ago
Why do these british historians always talk about an ancient hatered between the orthodox serbs and catholic croats?? The 2 nations entered the kingdom of yougoslavia in 1918 this was the first time they had a chance to live together and to get to know eachother after 20 years of serbian dictatorship came 1941 and look at this now ancient hatered, didnt know 20 years make it ancient??
purica 2 years ago
Thanks man, watched the whole thing. Five stars.
addyr 2 years ago 5
this documentary was very informative, a good "compact" overview of the operations during the war. five stars overall
Diemorder 2 years ago
Titu na kitu!
ravnogorac86 2 years ago
tito car,kralj,legendaaaaaaa
isika89pa 2 years ago 3