PADI IDC Alternate Airsource stationary

[filmedonkohtao]

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[nxgO2]

Good, clear instructions...

helmit74: I really hope you meant to type "manually". I don't think my wetsuit has a zip in the right place to follow your method... ;)

[helmit74]

I think all new students should learn to analy inflate BCD's first and foremost

[duskdiver]

Well done, I will use this one for my students, and regarding GUE divers,...whatever you say...but...a Gue certified diver with 15 hours underwater is still a beginner...sorry!)

(BTW, Gue is a fantastic organization...)

[Mutrino]

@duskdiver Yes a GUE diver with 15 hours OW is indeed a beginner. But a beginner that has better bouyancy control & finning technique and more understanding of air management than most PADI instructors.

[duskdiver]

@Mutrino I know what you mean, but cmon man, 15 hours??

(BTW I am both a PADI Instr and a GUE diver)

[Mutrino]

Thank you but I was not trying to boast. I see new divers get frustrated in almost every class. Why do you think it is that a lot of divers that get PADI certified do not continue the sport? It is a sad situation that could be so easily rectified. Then again, I guess PADI isnt even really to blame, afterall, it gives people what they want, i.e. a fast certification card. I know, this debate is both endless and futile! :-) Cheers! Safe diving.

[Mutrino]

Cringe. Maybe we should add some chairs? Ever hear of doing this neutrally buoyant? Good example of how not to do it.

[subsinai]

This is a training situation!! You also learn how to drive a car in a protected environment before they send you out in the street, right?

[Mutrino]

Training yes indeed. One more reason to try and do this neutrally buoyant from the very beginning, it is NOT that hard. The above video shows the very reason newly certified PADI divers stir up clouds of silt, lacking buoyancy control and crappy finning technique. If newly certified GUE divers can do it than PADI divers should be able to dont you think.

I am PADI, TDI and GUE certified, I know the difference firsthand.

[subsinai]

Good for you :)

[soccom8341576]

Very true. Buoyancy control is the first step to being comfortable underwater.

[0EarthAirFireWater0]

I'm a PADI divemaster and the way the instructor and I demonstrate this skill is first stationary in a pool and then buoyantly in an open-water environment. Stationary pool training allows the new divers become accustomed to removing a regulator from their mouth and orienting them with finding theiy buddy's octopus. While most OW classes go without incidents, people do panic in classes and new skills can be stressful for a few in classes. So just get off your high horse and chill.

[btownmxer]

@Mutrino

These are basic skills new students learn before they even know what neutrally buoyant is

[jsflygh]

@Mutrino Ah but seems you don`t know too much about the PADI skills because if you did you would know that they actually do this skill neutrally buoyant (swimming) for example in pool 3.

[Mutrino]

@jsflygh If you'd helped out with classes a little more you'd know that 99% of PADI OW students are NOT neutrally bouyant when doing this skill in the pool while swimming. Do an (A)OW class, have the students swim for a while while doing this skill (or NO skill for that matter), THEN stop them. Do not allow them to use their arms or legs, 90+% of them will SINK. i.e. they were not neutrally bouyant. I have done this with students on hundreds of dives. You think I make this shit up??

[jsflygh]

@Mutrino I don`t know where you work or as what - the only thing i can say is that ALL my students are neutrally buoyant when doing the swimming variation of this skill because otherwise i let them repeat it. Thats what the i.m. tells me and i stick to it. Of course - the GUE training is verry intensive and PADI OW is only the basics. But there are people out there who just want to learn the basics. I know it is hard to belive but NOT everyone wants to be a D.I.R. Tec.

[0EarthAirFireWater0]

The speed at which divers learn skills depends on the instructor and/or dive shop if the instructor in not an independent. At the dive shop I work at and the instructors I assist even adding a day or two to training if the new divers aren't getting the skills right before they do their first open-open water dives. We make sure al new divers are competent in each skills and comfortable.