Evolution of an artist's work is always one of my favorite aspects. In my experience, if an artist continues with the same thing, like the same style of painting, it gets old after a time. Personally, I love the change that's gone about with AFI. Somehow, they retain their individuality, while expanding their wings and growing. <3
i h8 when ppl cry bout how afi isnt punk anymore... all ther albums are different and not one of them is actually punk but almost all them are awesome and i listen to adball n shit
@nightmareganon It's mostlty due to Davey Havok blowing out his throat during the tour for Sing the Sorrow. Don't get me wrong there was a huge difference in vocal style then as compared with this album, but the last time you ever hear Davey sing like that is in the Sing the Sorrow sessions (Song called "....Now the world") and even then, it's only briefly
yeah but you have to admit that they were going to abandon yelling eventually anyway...their style of music was just progressing toward something more polished. Some might say "effete"...but yes there still was a lot of yelling in StS, and the voice trauma definitely impelled them to change dramatically. My guess is that, had the vocal issues never occured, we would have had one or two more albums bridging the style gap between StS and DU.
...........they were in the top every single song was amazing just like in december underground may be in crash love its too much difference but its because 20 years singing anyway i like this new album too just i like his old music i think they has learn a lot and now are just getting fun but they still rocks
thats not been sold out is his just singing his kind of music if you know something about him u know he likes a lot of kind of music and bands yo creo q ahora q son famosos y no tienen que probarle nada a nadie estan cantando lo que les gusta ademas a o d y black sailslos hicieron grandes por canciones q fueron exito como totalinmortal the days of the phoenix third season ever and a day abdother songs i love but it was not a great album is because of that with sing the sorrow
Its completely their own choice what they do, as band they were done doing punk and i respect that and even tho their music has changed their art lives on through new sounds. people need to quit bitching so much and just learn to respect that they are getting older and want to pursue new sounds. I say keep it up AFI! show us how much you can evolve!
sooooooo badassss!!!! seriously what happend to u guys???? no more bitching about it i really wanna know how u can change ur music from this to what it is now. makes no sense. i miss good punk
@umbora do you want the real answer or my opinion, cause the real answer is: men get tired of playing punk songs album after album after album, and they just play differently now since they have enough money to do whatever makes them happy. im sure they still love to play these songs when they are jamming, but lets face it, any artist wants to progress, they are usually concerned with their latest stuff, not their beginnings. yeah it sucks we get no more great punk, gotta play these old albums
Ok, I'll admit, I first knew about AFI from Guitar Hero 3 . . . which is sad . . . and i got DU. Then I bought the AFI compilation next (not sing the sorrow!) and discovered what I was missing out on and it introduced me to Hardcore Punk. Then I got STS, then AoD, then CL when it came out, then Black Sails. Now the point of my comment:
There is no doubt it, AFI sold out. I am still a fan of their newer works, but AFI really did sell out. (continued below)
How can you got from punk to pop rock and NOT sell out ? From what I gather, AFI were leading the punk world with black sails, and AoD got on the fucking billboard charts. How could they get there without their punk fans! But then with Sing the Sorrow, if I was a fan of theirs before, I would refuse to support the band anymore because they totally SOLD OUT. But if a 9th album of theirs comes out I think I’ll have to buy it . . .
Needless to say, this song is the best song in the world to sing. Makes you want to dance and you automatically forget about everything else in the room; no time to get nervous! :)
Everybody!!!! My afi poeples!!! Go to "baby oh" now and flag it as innapropriate, or dislike it!!! Then we will slowly bring justin beieber off the web for good!! ( lmao this is corny :p) so, my afi fellows, we shall ALL untite as afi fans and bring the "beaver" DOWN!!
*melts* There's what my days have been missing: AFI. This is awesome! As much as I like Green Day and Evanescence.... AFI is still a thousand times better.
it would have been sick to have seen AFI back in the old days now i have to see the new AFI dont get me wrong they are freaking amazing none the less but old AFI would have been awesome
The reason they sounded different after Very Proud of Ya is because the bassist and guitar player left. Everything after that album is a new band. I personally think peaked after the change in line-up. With that being said everything after Sing the Sorrow sucked. I'll still check them out live when they roll into town though. A.F.I. kills live!!
@ThemightymightyMight You're right about thee bassist, however the original guitarist didn't leave until after the A Fire Inside EP which was right before Black sails.
yea the way to scream without hurting ur voice is how he screams now just like the guy from underoath and all those crappy screamo bands, but davey used to just scream in his natrul way, but thats how u damage ur chords and thats wat happened to him
I'm not saying his singing is bad, but screaming takes a tole on your voice, I think there are techniques in which you can sing like this without it hurting your voice, I don't know of them though.
well there are ways to scream without hurting your voice, but you cant scream LIKE THIS without doing so. Death Metal singers for example, sing from the gut, and it results an a really visceral sound, but davey doesnt sing like that, and if he did use a technique, im convinced he wouldnt sound this good. He kept going untill he needed surgery, if that isnt fan dedication i dont know what is. They are amazing, and they are all about the fans, that is awesome.
Finally someone understands why they don't do punk anymore! They didn't sell out, Davey was killing his voice so him and Jade took the band in a new direction.
i would say bleed black is a very good song but this album and AOD is very good and i think his voice is always powerful, like last kiss, and days of the phoenix, i do like sts though its good
@NightmareGanon Well done Captain obvious. Considering this is 22 year old Dave singing in a raw, hardcore style, whereas on CL it's 32 year old Davey singing somewhat "pop-ey" rock.
if lets just say black sails was great n art of drownning was ok n sing the sorrow was great n decemberunderground was ok/sucked then crash love mite be great?? lol i hope so maby theres a pattern idk afi changes its mood every album so we jus gotta wait n see
Yeah there's a difference between evolving as an artist and plain ol' selling out.
ColtonMcBonesHeil 5 days ago
Maaan I miss this album!
JesterEve 2 weeks ago
afi dont get my blood going anymore, besides this era...sick sick amazing tunes
j4yj4y411thew4y 2 months ago
Evolution of an artist's work is always one of my favorite aspects. In my experience, if an artist continues with the same thing, like the same style of painting, it gets old after a time. Personally, I love the change that's gone about with AFI. Somehow, they retain their individuality, while expanding their wings and growing. <3
xArtificialSkiesx 3 months ago
I always thought if you called yourself a fan of a band you loved all their stuff... but i guess things have changed...
BOADude69 3 months ago
I love all of afi's music but i hated the style of crash love
TheShplaa 4 months ago 3
@TheShplaa Half of it was terrible, the other half was half-assed tributes to 80's bands. Also, I really wish Jade still updated the blog.
NightmareGanon 2 months ago
do they still play ever?? i really wanna see em
pballer89fly 4 months ago
if any1 considers this punk there dead wrong, but this band is awesome no doubt
pballer89fly 4 months ago
madball*
pballer89fly 4 months ago
i h8 when ppl cry bout how afi isnt punk anymore... all ther albums are different and not one of them is actually punk but almost all them are awesome and i listen to adball n shit
pballer89fly 4 months ago
@nightmareganon It's mostlty due to Davey Havok blowing out his throat during the tour for Sing the Sorrow. Don't get me wrong there was a huge difference in vocal style then as compared with this album, but the last time you ever hear Davey sing like that is in the Sing the Sorrow sessions (Song called "....Now the world") and even then, it's only briefly
kablammy1 5 months ago
@kablammy1
yeah but you have to admit that they were going to abandon yelling eventually anyway...their style of music was just progressing toward something more polished. Some might say "effete"...but yes there still was a lot of yelling in StS, and the voice trauma definitely impelled them to change dramatically. My guess is that, had the vocal issues never occured, we would have had one or two more albums bridging the style gap between StS and DU.
FeelingFreshSon 4 months ago
OK!! I accept it, I've just rape the play button!!!
baacmcr 5 months ago
...........they were in the top every single song was amazing just like in december underground may be in crash love its too much difference but its because 20 years singing anyway i like this new album too just i like his old music i think they has learn a lot and now are just getting fun but they still rocks
elgavokk 6 months ago
thats not been sold out is his just singing his kind of music if you know something about him u know he likes a lot of kind of music and bands yo creo q ahora q son famosos y no tienen que probarle nada a nadie estan cantando lo que les gusta ademas a o d y black sailslos hicieron grandes por canciones q fueron exito como totalinmortal the days of the phoenix third season ever and a day abdother songs i love but it was not a great album is because of that with sing the sorrow
elgavokk 6 months ago
Its completely their own choice what they do, as band they were done doing punk and i respect that and even tho their music has changed their art lives on through new sounds. people need to quit bitching so much and just learn to respect that they are getting older and want to pursue new sounds. I say keep it up AFI! show us how much you can evolve!
Bretthetherington 6 months ago 4
AFI murio con el album de Crash Love nada que ver con AFI de antes ya con los jonas es suficiente no se para que cambiarón de estilo
skam1000 6 months ago
sooooooo badassss!!!! seriously what happend to u guys???? no more bitching about it i really wanna know how u can change ur music from this to what it is now. makes no sense. i miss good punk
umbora 7 months ago
@umbora do you want the real answer or my opinion, cause the real answer is: men get tired of playing punk songs album after album after album, and they just play differently now since they have enough money to do whatever makes them happy. im sure they still love to play these songs when they are jamming, but lets face it, any artist wants to progress, they are usually concerned with their latest stuff, not their beginnings. yeah it sucks we get no more great punk, gotta play these old albums
CrystalTrees5mcs 4 months ago
sorry for all the butthurt stuff
ExNoctemNacimur 7 months ago
Ok, I'll admit, I first knew about AFI from Guitar Hero 3 . . . which is sad . . . and i got DU. Then I bought the AFI compilation next (not sing the sorrow!) and discovered what I was missing out on and it introduced me to Hardcore Punk. Then I got STS, then AoD, then CL when it came out, then Black Sails. Now the point of my comment:
There is no doubt it, AFI sold out. I am still a fan of their newer works, but AFI really did sell out. (continued below)
ExNoctemNacimur 7 months ago
How can you got from punk to pop rock and NOT sell out ? From what I gather, AFI were leading the punk world with black sails, and AoD got on the fucking billboard charts. How could they get there without their punk fans! But then with Sing the Sorrow, if I was a fan of theirs before, I would refuse to support the band anymore because they totally SOLD OUT. But if a 9th album of theirs comes out I think I’ll have to buy it . . .
ExNoctemNacimur 7 months ago
the lyrics for this song are AMAZING. PURE AWESOMENESS.
MCRhasAFireInside 8 months ago
Whenever I'm sleepy and need to stay awake I'll listen to this ^_^ they were and are the best
lonelygloomyday 11 months ago
Needless to say, this song is the best song in the world to sing. Makes you want to dance and you automatically forget about everything else in the room; no time to get nervous! :)
despina013 1 year ago
Oi. I sang this song in chorus class the other day, and everybody was like "Wow! You're so good! What's the name of that song?!"
The best things in the world never get proper recognition. *sigh*
despina013 1 year ago
Medicated smiles.
OuikariSoulfiah 1 year ago
Just awesome!
GreenDayMnority 1 year ago
i luv all the songs off this album and i love the titles <3 also luv the cover art
roseakitohavok 1 year ago
Still lovin' it. :)
despina013 1 year ago
IMPOSSIBLE to go to sleep while listening to this!
despina013 1 year ago
Still f***ing awesome! ( And yes, I AM responsible for at least a thousand of those views. ;) )
despina013 1 year ago
i usually hate loud music, but AFI is AMAZING!!!
kelloggcerealxoxo 1 year ago 2
Everybody!!!! My afi poeples!!! Go to "baby oh" now and flag it as innapropriate, or dislike it!!! Then we will slowly bring justin beieber off the web for good!! ( lmao this is corny :p) so, my afi fellows, we shall ALL untite as afi fans and bring the "beaver" DOWN!!
Mswolfhugger 1 year ago
*melts* There's what my days have been missing: AFI. This is awesome! As much as I like Green Day and Evanescence.... AFI is still a thousand times better.
despina013 1 year ago
I DIE IN MY DAYDREAMS
three30seven 1 year ago
it would have been sick to have seen AFI back in the old days now i have to see the new AFI dont get me wrong they are freaking amazing none the less but old AFI would have been awesome
izzyshreds 1 year ago
they just played this live at the concert on june 2 and it was amazing
shinigamiryuk 1 year ago
The reason they sounded different after Very Proud of Ya is because the bassist and guitar player left. Everything after that album is a new band. I personally think peaked after the change in line-up. With that being said everything after Sing the Sorrow sucked. I'll still check them out live when they roll into town though. A.F.I. kills live!!
ThemightymightyMight 1 year ago
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susyan 1 year ago
@ThemightymightyMight You're right about thee bassist, however the original guitarist didn't leave until after the A Fire Inside EP which was right before Black sails.
susyan 1 year ago
It's the crappy forced screaming he did on STS that fucked his voice up.
HoosierMF 1 year ago
afi just hasnt been the same since davey had vocal nodes
ThreeEvils398 1 year ago
Sick vocals!!! I'll go ntus if they play this june 5th! Classic! "I've been dreaming! I've been dreaming!"
DjInsanityHumanity 1 year ago
at first (before medicate was realeased) i thought maybe crash love might be like this but turns out not
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GreyShadowUchiha 2 years ago
well no shit sherlock
luismunoz0764 2 years ago 20
one of my favorite songs by them :]
NARUTOxFIGHT 2 years ago 6
lol, i mean "i've been"
marsist92 2 years ago
freakin amazing! one of my fave songs! i was dreaming i was dreaming i was lucid! blood was sipping it was sipping from my pores....
marsist92 2 years ago
i mean its really incredible, shut ur mouth was a brutal album, and how they made black sails art of drowning and sing the sorrow is unbeilevable
yoitssteve 2 years ago 5
yea the way to scream without hurting ur voice is how he screams now just like the guy from underoath and all those crappy screamo bands, but davey used to just scream in his natrul way, but thats how u damage ur chords and thats wat happened to him
yoitssteve 2 years ago
I'm not saying his singing is bad, but screaming takes a tole on your voice, I think there are techniques in which you can sing like this without it hurting your voice, I don't know of them though.
PieterVerbeke 2 years ago 3
yes, there are techniques to scream without hurting your throat. Just look them up.
RedtheGhost 2 years ago
well there are ways to scream without hurting your voice, but you cant scream LIKE THIS without doing so. Death Metal singers for example, sing from the gut, and it results an a really visceral sound, but davey doesnt sing like that, and if he did use a technique, im convinced he wouldnt sound this good. He kept going untill he needed surgery, if that isnt fan dedication i dont know what is. They are amazing, and they are all about the fans, that is awesome.
Deathless1One 2 years ago 9
the same happened to matt from avenged sevenfold. thats why their new stuff from waking the fallen and up sucked.
Vomit07 2 years ago
I think Davey was unaware of how much his singing was damaging his voice. And I think it was the STS screaming that messed up his voice.
DefBrif 2 years ago
STS?
cdsnatcher 2 years ago
Sing the Sorrow?
DefBrif 2 years ago
Finally someone understands why they don't do punk anymore! They didn't sell out, Davey was killing his voice so him and Jade took the band in a new direction.
vgmikelink 1 year ago
AFI made their best albums with Jade.
DefBrif 1 year ago
@DefBrif
Not so sure about that... Shut your mouth is one fucking amazing album, probably my second fav after Black Sails.
Dustin795 1 year ago
@Dustin795 I honestly do not like their first 3 albums much... I prefer BSITS, TAOD, and CL. ahah.
DefBrif 1 year ago
i've been dreaming i've been dreaming i was lucid
Aesthetic138 2 years ago 39
@Aesthetic138 ..Ive been dreaming blood was seeping from my pours..who'd believe it was all my own decision?" ..Lol :) :)
DaveyHavokFanatic527 1 year ago
@Aesthetic138 be careful!!! the last guy who dreamed got shot
no racial =]
umbora 6 months ago
the only reason why i say sts was better than art of drowning is becuase of daves voice on sts, way more powerful than aod
yoitssteve 2 years ago
its your opinion dont apoligize
i would say bleed black is a very good song but this album and AOD is very good and i think his voice is always powerful, like last kiss, and days of the phoenix, i do like sts though its good
canesrule96 2 years ago 4
I'm gonna have to disagree. Dave's voice was much more powerful before Sing The Sorrow.
mudvaynechick 2 years ago
There's a clear difference in vocal style between Crash Love and Black Sails in the Sunset.
NightmareGanon 2 years ago 48
duh
AFIForever1 2 years ago
@NightmareGanon Was that a serious statement?
KillCaustic87 1 year ago
@NightmareGanon Davey had surgery on his throat around the Decemberunderground era.
xBlaqkWingsx 1 year ago
@NightmareGanon why would you even say that. And more importantly, why would you give a thumbs up?
anyonegotaflashlight 1 year ago
@anyonegotaflashlight but what he said is true. can't deny it
helloieatchicken 1 year ago
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@NightmareGanon why would you even say that? And more importantly, why would you give a thumbs up?
anyonegotaflashlight 1 year ago
@NightmareGanon
haha that comment made me laugh, yeah just a slight difference
Tcassa89 1 year ago
@NightmareGanon and that totally sucks but whatever, once a fan, forever a fan
naoseiee 1 year ago
@NightmareGanon obviously but does that matter? It just shows he's very versatile which is awesome
emoguitarist17 1 year ago
@NightmareGanon thats because its basically two different bands.
cjayb1 11 months ago
@NightmareGanon Yeah there is and its not a GOOD difference
Crinkle426 9 months ago
@NightmareGanon Well done Captain obvious. Considering this is 22 year old Dave singing in a raw, hardcore style, whereas on CL it's 32 year old Davey singing somewhat "pop-ey" rock.
Norris3MCR 8 months ago
@yoitssteve ya kidding arnt you? its far weaker and he doesnt yell,ye screams
doodcruise 10 months ago
if lets just say black sails was great n art of drownning was ok n sing the sorrow was great n decemberunderground was ok/sucked then crash love mite be great?? lol i hope so maby theres a pattern idk afi changes its mood every album so we jus gotta wait n see
yoitssteve 2 years ago
art of drowning was 1,000,000 times better than sts
canesrule96 2 years ago 3
I wouldn't go that far. STS was a great album. AOD is better, but not by that much.
IAmLiesx 2 years ago 6
hes a poet and he knows it!
DaKilla623 2 years ago 17
@DaKilla623 Do you know what a Poetic Device is...? The name doesn't mean that he's not a poet, it is just like... a name lol
No Poetic Device means using no devices of poetry like rhyme scheming and shit
DextroAddiction 1 year ago
intro is sick
lament48 2 years ago 4
LOVE
AFIGrazihAFireInside 2 years ago
best AFI album EVER
xAFIxDaveyx22 2 years ago
east coast punk!
BLUENEONZ 2 years ago
u mean east bay hardcore?
btw east bay is in cali
ctpwns 2 years ago 2
My favorite off Black Sails...
Contraceptive 3 years ago
i love this song <3
mzwhitey9 3 years ago
Kind of funny since there are alot of poetic devices in the song.
holycrusade70 3 years ago 5
fuck yes. love this album
livinndarkness 3 years ago
Great pick, I love this song
boxxedright 3 years ago
hell yeah!
GhettoBillieys 3 years ago