I have been practising judo for almost 13 years and I'm pretty sure, judo is based on the japanese jiu jitsu, and Jikoro Kano, the founder of judo, removed the dangerous grabs and movements of jiu jitsu to create judo and added some others
judo is actually a cross between japanease jiu jitsu and the original forms of aikido. hence, get them 2 the ground, then ground fight. it is also rare to find an original form of aikido in britain anymore and you will mostly find Ki Aikido as it is less of a violent martial art, but look into it.
The only REAL difference is the application. And with this application you have an allowance for different moves. Judo was created with the idea that live sparring was a far better way to learn than with kata. Bjj was created by taking judo philosophies and then using them as a means of self defense.
they all came from bushido, as time has gone on have changed to fit their purpose. none is better than another. however all do teach humility which brings a strange irony to this discussion.
@ColorsInk You idiot Do is Japanese for WAY Judo stands for "Gentle Way" you dumb fuck don't say shit if you don't know... And they are definitely not the same thing Judo refined what JJ created by taking out the strength oriented and kill moves to create a more effective and safe way to disable and defeat your opponent. Don't believe me look up Judo Jiu Jitsu Japanese tournament (Judo destroyed JJ in a competition to see what ART would be thought to the Japanese police)
@SlugDropsonheads Well excuse me all I was saying is what i was told by a black belt in both, why is your response have to be so hostile grow up it's the internet.
Self defense is all about mindset and using an effective way of fighting. Some of us are born grapplers, other strikers.. Go with what works best for u. It comes down to your mentality and drills!
@fightluv No hostility intended, but I can provide my personal opinion right? I live in Australia, here BJJ is very cheap, personally as a practitioner of BJJ, Muay Thai and Hapkido, I find BJJ quite effective. In Australia which is where I'm from guns aren't allowed and when I get into a fight, if the other person has a knife, the best decision to make is run right? Your wallet is not worth your life, or your stubbornness. But it really is only effective one v one and you can also fuse strikes.
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Blackshinobishozoku, Real fighters dont call themselves martial artists... They are sport fighters... But pajama fighters jumped on the band wagon as a way to sell their outdated, non effective programs to the masses... Real Fighters study, wrestling, boxing, muay thai, and brazilian jiu jitsu... To the pajama crowd, they call them martial arts, but to fighters, its just techniques to be a better sportfighter... It wasnt until the UFC that people started calling Wrestling a martial art
@sockless67 why? ..i'm only asking for the reason not trying to start an argument. but. welcoming a debate of sorts.. i just like to understands peoples reasons for liking something else..peace!!
Well, I personally think that Brazilian Ju-Jitsu is more of a street fighting sort violent thing, as compared to Taekwondo, which can take years to master and is a sort of art. It's more peaceful too, that's why Buddhist monks sometimes practice it. It's not just necessarily fighting, it's also sort of a way of mind. I still like Ju-Jitsu though, as it can be very handy in self defense situations, in fact, I think it's the best martial art for that sort of thing.
Hi Sockless67.....ok thnx for the reply ...i like tkd i think it is very impressive huge high kicks and the like....if i tried to get my leg that high i would end up crippled...as for bjj being violent as you said .. i think that most martial arts can be violent.. especialy if you are on the recieving end..but bjj takes years to master too with the average black belt taking prob 10 -12 years bjj is very much like chess without the thinking and just doing.. you react to whatever i thrown up
sockless67 hi .... sorry but I think you are wrong. BJJ is not a streetfighting thing. BJJ is a sport thing. BJJ sport ground fighting has nothing relate with true selfdefense. It is a myth that BJJ is good for selfdefense. In the ''street'' BJJ is almost useless... (just my oppinion) .... For the street are from nature striking arts much more practical than sport ground fighting.....
@jiujitsuthug My opinion is that sport ground fighting is not true fighting. Did you think ground fighting is effective against a knife or maybe more than one opponent? In the street the smart fighter is always to his feets and not in the ground....
@megasayajinsongoku99 - A knife? Unless you have a gun or another knife - you RUN. Anyone that knife fights knows you get cut no matter what. I agree with staying on your feet in the street if possible - but what if you are knocked down or taken down? If you don't know how wrestling or BJJ you are done... Jiujitsu is a tool that you use WITH standup - you should have it in your arsenal to be complete.
@jiujitsuthug yes you got the point!! To run you must be in your feets and not in the ground. If you are knocked down or taked down you MUST try to stand immetiadly up in your feets and not to wrestling. Show for example Krav Maga , Defendu or Glima(Lausatoek style).
The last think you will do in the street is wrestling with the opponent.
@Etaks89 look .... traditional ju jitzu and traditional catch as catch can wrestling were more combative systems , than the modern sports ju jitzu and freestyle wrestling....
The modern sports wrestling and ju jitzu can only work against one opponent , if he respect the rules.... without this you can not do sport moves ..... Maybe you can against a human with substandart aggresivity... But against a dirty , a real ''streetfighter'' you are very vulnerable with sport grappling...
@megasayajinsongoku99 not true, have you ever tried learning jiu jitsu and wrestling, it works especially well against rigid, strong, aggressive people. Besides, they gas quickly, and after that point its like playing with a ragdoll. Jiu Jits works really well against no rules, don't forget that the grappler doesn't have to play by any rules, and we dont train for sport. We train to snap limbs and destroy rotator cuffs, the chokes aren't meant to subdue they are meant to kill.
@Etaks89 yes I am a ju jitzu practioner ... And I say from expirience that sport ju jitzu is not very good for a violence situation..... you speak always about playing and game. thats the difference. I mean about true fighting.... true selfdefense and not playing a game ....
Many athletes live in a phantasy world , because they think playing a game in the gym is true selfdefense....
@Etaks89 If you will grappling for selfdefense , look at the most traditional systems of ju jitzu , who had strikes too, or look at the traditional forms of catch as catch can wrestling.....
But only few true selfdefense situations are only 1vs1 .... The most important thing is to know hot to avoid violence , and to know don't to ''freeze'' under violence situations.....
@Etaks89 Also add close combat striking in your arsenal. Striking is the ''king of fighting'' .. But as I said the most important thing for selfdefense is to know how to work with stress and fear ...
@megasayajinsongoku99 I have a good stand up game, boxing and muay thai do well for me. I understand that a ground game alone wont cut it for all situations, thats why i try to learn every aspect of fighting. It just happens to be that with all the martial arts(traditional or otherwise) that I have extensively taken, jiu jitsu is the most useful and effective for REAL situations... just train gi bjj for more than 2 months (5 days a week), thats all you need to see how effective it is.
@Etaks89 BJJ??? BJJ is one of the most sportling variations of ju jitzu.... And the gi is very ''fake'' if you speak about selfdefense , because the ''evil guy'' has not a sporting gi....
BJJ is a very good sport, a very good game but my opinion is that if you will selfdefense you must learn true selfdefense and not sport games.....
And as I said the most important thing is to learn to deal with violence , believe me its not the same with sparring....
@Etaks89 and sport ground ''fighting'' has nothing to do with real ground surviving..... you must learn how to avoid violence and to try don't to escalate a conflict....
@megasayajinsongoku99 well they don't encourage starting fights, thats for sure.... but they teach us "real ground surviving", by showing us how to mame limbs and pass people out, your brain can't go with out blood, and nearly all the chokes in gracie brazillian jiujitsu cut off the blood (not the air) to the brain. You don't pass out because you can't breath(that takes a few minutes), you pass out because your brain isn't getting blood(only takes a few seconds).
@Etaks89 ground surviving is much easier than you think... its not break limbs and make chokes on the ground.... ground surviving is hitting with what ever you can in the weak points that you can reach in his body and stand immediately up
If you are on the ground and he comes to you strike like a crazy machine with your feets to the vulnerable areas of his feets , and than if he is in the distance stay immediately up...thats surviving on the ground and not submissions and chokes...
@megasayajinsongoku99 Why I say its more effective for 1 v 1 is because in a stand up game you can't rely on your opponent to do any one particular thing. He could move anywhere or do anything. when grappling you can control his entire position, and dictate where you want the fight to go. This is especially effective against people who have never grappled, they give you submissions, they give you sweeps and passes. any one who's trained bjj or wrestling would agree.
@Etaks89 if the aggresor is on the ground , my opinion is to stand immediately up (like Lausatoek Glima and like Krav Maga) ... If you are in your feets you can fight with other guys , you can jump at the guy on the ground and finish him(bronco kick :-0) or you can run for you live ..... if you stay on the ground , even for same seconds you are very vulnerable to eventually friends of him or to weapons of the aggresor....
@Etaks89 a gi is a another point , the ''gi moves'' can not been very effective in a selfdefense situation....
ok you are right ... against a unexpiried weak person wou have advantage , but those persons are anyway not a threat for other persons ..
Against dirty, aggresive criminals you need effective striking ... if the other grabs you , try to avoid the throw and strike him with close combat hits.... or throw him and jump ot hit him ..
@megasayajinsongoku99 gracie jiu jitsu is not exclusive to the gi, you are extremely ignorant when it comes to jiu jitsu and its effectiveness, i cordially invite you to take real bjj classes for more than a month, with an open mind. and just take what you learn from it. Bruce Lee and chuck norris both learned a little bjj, infact chuck norris i think was a black belt if im not mistaken. BJJ works very well against aggressive criminals, learn it before you make claims about it.
@Etaks89 always gracie jiu jitzu and gracie jiu jiztu .... ''gracie'' jiu jitzu is only a copy from traditional judo..... What ever Bruce lee was also only a human and he was more influenced from Boxing, Savate and fencing but indeed also from jiu jitzu .....
I am not ignorant, only realistic.... As I said I train jiu jitzu myself. But I am bored with this art( at least with the sporting styles of it) ...
If you train jiu-jitzu and know so much about it then you may want to start spelling it correctly (Jiu-Jitsu). Or else people may just think your a freakin liar.
@keepbjjsimple names are bullshits ... ju jutzu , jiu jitzu , jawara etc ... all bullshits .. the art is important , not the name ... By the way show the art ''german ju jutzu'' and you will understand what I mean ...
@megasayajinsongoku99 it even works against bigger opponents who out power you, bjj is designed around leverage, not strength. We train gi, because the gi forces you to rely on leverage and technique over power and speed. Every fight i've been in, as an adult, the person would clinch several times with me, because they don't know what they are doing, and they dont like getting hit. Fights end up on the ground because people don't know how to defend clinches and the just fall over. bjj works
@Etaks89 yea thats the problem with the gi .... usually the ''bad guy'' has not a gi to rely on leverage and technique... And strength and size are ine grappling more important than in striking..... I am relative very musculary and I have a big advandage in graplling.... you will techniques for the chlinche.... stamp foot in his foot, kick to his shin, knee, elbow , headbutt, biting, gouging, hooks , strikes with the edge of the fist, chin jabs...
@Etaks89 ok let dry this... go train for one monat Krav Maga , Combat Glima(Lausatoek) or other really combat directives and say than to me if sport tactics are fighting.....
@Etaks89 In some months I will stop learning ju jitzu and I will learning Savate(de Rue) who is for me much more efficience than the sporting styles of jiu jitzu...
The traditional styles of jiu jitzu are very good , but the sporting parts are like the name say only for sport...
Thats an old argument thats been proven weak. are there anyother arts more effective against a group? A person has to have the capability to stop one person before they can stop two or three.
@keepbjjsimple yes many arts are more useful than the sport brasilian jiu jitzu ... BJJ is a sport, its for the gym, not for true selfdefense ....
BJJ is very good for muscle and endurance training but if you will selfdefense you must train in systems like Savate de Rue , Krav Maga, Kampfringen, Ninjutzu , traditional jiu jitzu , Guided Chaos , Bison System etc...
@megasayajinsongoku99 I think you've never fought against any Bjj real Black belt or any good MMA fighter. Yes they are sports but they're always fighting systems (much more real then Krav Maga and Bullshits like Ninjutzu). Also shooting with a gun can be a sport. Are you going to tell me that a good gun shooter isn't able to shoot good in real life??
Why don't you try to fight against a good MMA fighter with your Krav Maga and stuff...let's see
@luke88skyv Have you ever tried to learn something about Krav Maga, Ninjutzu , Kampfringen, Guided Chaos or other arts???? Krav Maga and Ninjutzu are not bullshits.... They are true fighting systems , for selfdefense..... You can not compare sport arts with real selfdefense systems .... I do myself also ju jutzu and I understand that ju jutzu as trained today in sporting terms has nothing to do with selfdefense ... If you think only in sporting terms you lose the point .....
@luke88skyv yes a sport shooter can kill too but did you think really a sport shooter has a chance against a special forces soldier who trains for true war and with better weapons ?
If you will selfdefense add to your style also moderns selfdefense systems or traditional martial arts .... Specially BJJ as trained today is almost purely a sport and not a martial art ... If you try to make sport ground techniques in real life, than you are in a big problem ....
@luke88skyv By the way hand to hand combat is only a small part of selfdefense .... More important is to know how to avoid violence and criminality and how to avoid to fight ....If you don't fight than you are the true winner...
But if you MUST defende yourself , than you must know how not to ''freeze'' under your emotions ....
@luke88skyv and about Ninjutzu .... Taijutzu(unarmed system of Ninjutzu) is for real selfdefense , not like the modern sport arts..... And generally about ninjutzu what do you think you will do against a sword ,poison or a shuriken ??? Lol
@munkymaskproductions if you speak about ninjutzu , Taijutzu has selfdefense without weapons... And generally if you think generally to hit with a fist is legal , than you are wrong...Omly in selfdefense you can hit one other humans . I mean pure selfdefense , not pride fighting and bullshits like this ...
In pure selfdefense you can also use a gun :-) .. as I say in selfdefense you have not limits.I will use shuriken, sword, poison , gun , bottle , attack in the back of opponent etc.
We were always taught on clock chokes to put your head to the matt to make sure you apply enough pressure and weight to get the choke. Too unstable otherwise.
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ya it did hurt and still does i hope i heal soon and when i do everythings ok bcuz i dont wanna have a fucked up arm 4 ever... it suck my cut arm is my strong arm and its half the size of my weak due 2 all the blood that i lost... im 15 btw
Well, a ton of the stuff in BJJ has been in judo before it. Even things like the gogoplata have proper japanese names and judo applications. Given that though, I'm not convinced if I went down to the judo dojo tonight they'd be able to pull off a clock choke on me, or know what it is. Fair enough, my tachi-waza is terrible. Just different focuses. If you want to see truly original things, look up something like 50/50 guard or x guard. Gurgel is all about basics.
I never argued that it didn't. However, BJJ is descended more directly from Judo than traditional Ryu-ha. And Judo in itself is a condensed and, I'd say, superior version of the older arts. Kano eliminated techniques that couldn't be practiced safely, and so we can "practice." It's not a coincidence that the single school of Judo dominated all the traditional schools of ju-jitsu in the first Red and White games.
@Curatalo506 Judo came from Japanese Jiu Jitsu, but it isn't 'just' all the throws. It contains plenty of ground techniques, but most dojos don't focus on them because they aren't particularly important for competitions.
@Curatalo506 Judo PERFECTED Japanese JJ... They even had a competition in Japan not long after Jigoro Kano (credited creator of Judo) started his Judo school and JUDO won 12 out of 15 matches with one ending a draw... Truth is Judo took what Japanese JJ was and it threw out all the useless extreme power moves and all the kill moves and perfected it... Then Brazil came along and took out all the stand up to create BJJ....
@Curatalo506 i knew that already, which suprises me cause ive only found a handfull of people who arent complete idiots so congradulations on being in being in the group of non-stupid people, thank you lol
most of it was, however a couple moves (such as the circle sacrifice throw or tomoe nage) came from when Kano Jigoro was attempting to defeat his larger partner
JJJ and Judo are not only different by that, but by the Kuzushi
I'm not arguing your point, you are one of the few non idiots on youtube, just refining it :)
Ryan Ballenger AKA @mmaninjitsu is a lying, delusional piece of shit. First off, he's a 16 year old pimpled faced tool who pretends he's older and lies repeatedly about his age. Secondly, he obviously doesn't have a blackbelt in BJJ or Judo nor does he have any claim to be able to teach Muay Thai. This dumb little kid has made countless false claims and personas on the internet because he's such a complete loser in real life that he lives in a delusional, pretend world on the web. Totally sad..
@Curatalo506 Thats not true, for example Kata guruma is originaly from Judo. I respect BJJ very much, but the true thing is that BJJ never raised from Jiu-jitsu, but from Judo, Mitsuo Maeda eas 6th dan in Judo.
Your dumb. The art was derived from the Japanese martial art of Kodokan judo in the early 20th century. The art began with Mitsuyo Maeda (aka Conde Koma, or Count Coma in English), a member of the then-recently-founded Kodokan. Maeda was one of five of Judo's top groundwork experts that Judo's founder da left Japan in 1904.
just like anything else you need balance....bjj will allow you to neutralize one opponent but this will consume your body (and ability to react to a 2nd attacker) for this you need a strike fighting style such as tai, taekwondo, kung fu any thing non grapple ...boxing is not so good as i focuses on one single strike on about 4/5 variations
atgreed. muy thai has the most variety but not necessarily power. if i had to choose any striking art to be the most all round id choose muy thai. but taekwondo has some of the most deadly kicking strikes. so i hear you though dude. muy thai is awsome
In Muay Thai you use punches, elbows, knees and kicks. While in other striking styles you might only use punches (boxing) or just use punches and kicks (kickboxing)
reeceyfezza you are wrong if you think that only muai thai has elbow and knee techniques.... Almost all striking martial arts use elbows and knees.... For example, Savate(de Rue) , Kung fu ( many styles of Kung fu have elbows and knees techniques), Glima(Lausatoek style) , karate and many other styles....
I didn't mean ALL striking styles, I was just talking about Muay Thai, Boxing and Kickboxing. I know that plenty of martial arts use elbows and knees.
For street there's also lethwei, or Burmese Boxing which has everything muay thai has plus headbutts, so it all comes down to the choice of whether or not you favor headbutts, lol.
@tojiro12 In Muay Thai, and most combat-based sports today, yes, it is. But Lethwei still allows headbutts, and Lethwei is Burmese, not Thai, hope I clarified for ya man.
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If you want to take on multiple opponents, buy a gun! It's hard to take out one good opponent using Krav Maga, let alone a group of them. Some combination of wrestling, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Boxing, and Thai Boxing is what every top fighter in the world uses, so unless your group of attackers consists of school children and the elderly, you might want to reconsider the Krav Maga, which was apparently developed to brutalize peasants with at checkpoints in the occupied territories.
are U retarded? krav maga and all other military fightintechs is developed to rais the confidence of the soldiers, if they lose their weapons and run into their enemy, they get shot stupid. if the enemy is unarmed and let's say from afghanistan he'll prolly KICK your ass since their national sport is olympic wrestling and if he's not alone, he will kick your ass anyway due to superiority of numbers. krav maga MIGHT give you some time for your buddy to come along.... with a gun.
that training is crazy! ive been to the toughest Muay Thai camps but i wouldnt even try Krav Maga lol thats disarming and defence against multiple enemys right?
ya knife, gun,bat,stick disarms,and just brutal knees,elbows,shots to the groin,headbutts,punches,kicks anything else you can think of,lol it is very fun and great exercise,i recomend you try it.its probably the most realistic and effective fighting technique.i also take bjj mauy thai an boxing
of course you can fight multiple opponents,but to do that you must be able to destroy each opponent by breaking a bone and doing it quick,its hard but possible.
There was one dude trained in BJJ for 5 sum years. He tried to go up against 3 punk kids. He took one down. The other 2 fighters? They smashed his head in. Just kicked him senseless. The BJJ guy was in a coma for 2 days. Family decided to pull the plug since it there was nothing that could me medically done (& cost too much for intubation).
So everyone saying BJJ is the bestest, nah. It ain't. 1-on-1, but that's it.
yer ture, but alot of fights are only between 2 people ( 1 on 1 ) so you are going to come out on top on them types of fights, and also bjj is very useful for when there on top of you that you can easliy filp your opponent over or get them off you so you can stand back up. BBJ+Mauy Thia the ultimate combo ;)
ur right bjj is the ultimate for 1 0n 1 combat. but that guy probly was trained in tournament style bjj with gi. either way against multiple attackers u never go to the ground. so thats why u learn muay thai as well. i know a guy who got jumped by 10 ppl at a party when he was drunk he was in muay thai for 6 months and kicked the shit outta all of them. they had to resort to their bitchy bear mace then he was like "im not gettin maced" at wich point they proceded in being little ghetto bitches.
maan:( i'll never understand how people can actually go 10 on 1 and be proud of it.. you're right about what you said there, 1on1 bjj is great and those fights do often go to the ground. but when there are multiple opponents you would like to know another martial art aswell, muay thai is probably really good. personally i go taekwon-do and bjj. works:)
mauy thai i like i go to and its really effiecent striking system, tae kwon do is underestimated. there a few guys go to muay thai with me that went to tkd before and they excelled way faster and there kicks are sick. i wasnt at the fight but from what i heard he gave a guy a seizure from punching him once. in the time it took for the guy to start shaking and fall he had already dropped 4 other guys. they eventually had to pull out their mace.
I trained tkd from 5-15 and never looked back sorry but tkd is not as practical as muay thai or western boxing if your in high school i would definatley say go and wrestle you will develop great takedowns, great base not to mention the conditioning. finally bjj IMO it is one of the if not the best martial art for 1 on 1 fighting eventually I hope to get back in the gym and finally earn my purp belt (damn recession).
I know it's not as good in fighting, but I like the sport, also, it helps alot ofcourse. I've been doing my share of boxing and it's fine and works, but I don't like it, not my style. (:
You're right. A person should probably go to other martial arts that could be effective against multiple opponents before going on to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
@axemurderer27 theres one from hawi or however u spell it called hydrokembo os some weird shit. its for street fighting, and multi targets. it was on fight quest
Wrong...look at it like this 4 dudes come at you most likly they know each other and are friends with each other if you can get one of those guys into a submission move and DONT LET GO tell him your not going to stop untill they stop because by this time most likely your going to be beaten on by the other 3, but imagine the screams and and cries like "guys stop beating him my arm is broken or my head is about to pop off my shoulders" yeah tell me bjj doesnt work against multiple opponents
I do Kuk Sool won, it's been good, but I'm going to quit and start BJJ instead - the "BJJ punks" on youtube have converted me! I've had enough of all the forms and dancing around in "traditional martial arts"
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We can see that Brazilian Jujitsu is great against one individual opponent in a cage, but unfortunately we do not have that option just to defense ourselves against one attacker at all times. Show us how Brazilian Jujitsu stand against 2 or 3 fighters from other MMA.
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i think bjj sucks too. anyone with true power can easily break out of these fancy holds, all you need is willpower. much rather just land a side or roundhouse kick in the mouth than rolling around on the floor
idk man, knowing weak point in the body and rolling around on the ground are 2 different things. hapkido is much better as it allows you to incapacitate your opponent WHILE staying on your feet using weak points to your advantage. check it out cause its pretty sweet
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Alirara100 1 month ago
I have been practising judo for almost 13 years and I'm pretty sure, judo is based on the japanese jiu jitsu, and Jikoro Kano, the founder of judo, removed the dangerous grabs and movements of jiu jitsu to create judo and added some others
calimehtar89 6 months ago
judo is actually a cross between japanease jiu jitsu and the original forms of aikido. hence, get them 2 the ground, then ground fight. it is also rare to find an original form of aikido in britain anymore and you will mostly find Ki Aikido as it is less of a violent martial art, but look into it.
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whiteman2371 8 months ago
Jiu Jitsu came from Judo.
do you think they would first create a martial art that mostly involves ground combat?
avaiboot 9 months ago
The only REAL difference is the application. And with this application you have an allowance for different moves. Judo was created with the idea that live sparring was a far better way to learn than with kata. Bjj was created by taking judo philosophies and then using them as a means of self defense.
they all came from bushido, as time has gone on have changed to fit their purpose. none is better than another. however all do teach humility which brings a strange irony to this discussion.
afhostie 11 months ago
@afhostie No, actually BJJ came from Traditional Japanese Jiu Jitsu.
kanguesso 10 months ago
Brazilian jiu jitsu best system ever.
BluePittbull666 1 year ago
omfg pls stfu :) ok? jj is only judo in newaza ok? judo is self-defence martial art jj is for paralyse enemy ..
NEMOakaNEMESIS 1 year ago
Judo is the sport Jujitsu is the martial art if it ends in do its a sport jitsu is the martial art
look at kendo and kenjitsu just to clarify for people sayin judo perfected jujistu there the same thing just used differently
ColorsInk 1 year ago
@ColorsInk You idiot Do is Japanese for WAY Judo stands for "Gentle Way" you dumb fuck don't say shit if you don't know... And they are definitely not the same thing Judo refined what JJ created by taking out the strength oriented and kill moves to create a more effective and safe way to disable and defeat your opponent. Don't believe me look up Judo Jiu Jitsu Japanese tournament (Judo destroyed JJ in a competition to see what ART would be thought to the Japanese police)
SlugDropsonheads 1 year ago
@SlugDropsonheads Well excuse me all I was saying is what i was told by a black belt in both, why is your response have to be so hostile grow up it's the internet.
ColorsInk 1 year ago
JUDO PERFECTED THEM !! well bjj did so as well on the ground
121069 1 year ago
Self defense is all about mindset and using an effective way of fighting. Some of us are born grapplers, other strikers.. Go with what works best for u. It comes down to your mentality and drills!
XereZz 1 year ago 3
DROP THE GUNS AND FIGHT
anonymousQ45 1 year ago 25
what is that music?
romualdf1 1 year ago
@fightluv No hostility intended, but I can provide my personal opinion right? I live in Australia, here BJJ is very cheap, personally as a practitioner of BJJ, Muay Thai and Hapkido, I find BJJ quite effective. In Australia which is where I'm from guns aren't allowed and when I get into a fight, if the other person has a knife, the best decision to make is run right? Your wallet is not worth your life, or your stubbornness. But it really is only effective one v one and you can also fuse strikes.
Eatmafridge 1 year ago
Jiu jitsu is great in MMA =D
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yuchien 1 year ago
Blackshinobishozoku, Real fighters dont call themselves martial artists... They are sport fighters... But pajama fighters jumped on the band wagon as a way to sell their outdated, non effective programs to the masses... Real Fighters study, wrestling, boxing, muay thai, and brazilian jiu jitsu... To the pajama crowd, they call them martial arts, but to fighters, its just techniques to be a better sportfighter... It wasnt until the UFC that people started calling Wrestling a martial art
Dogpound2001 1 year ago
@Dogpound2001 xaxaxaxxax real fighters are sport fighters??? lol Fighting or selfdefense has nothnig to do with sporting games..
sportfighter ??? If you train only sport, you are not a fighter, but you are a athlet....
Mixed martial arts is a sport, its not true fighting and its de facto not selfdefense ...
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
but those are like ballet... Muay Thai is the only acknowledged striking sport fight that any one who fights acknowledges...
Dogpound2001 1 year ago
@Dogpound2001
Only if you're a UFC fanboy.
If you're a real fighter or martial artist. You will know differently.
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utapam1 1 year ago
I'd personally go for Taekwondo.
sockless67 2 years ago
@sockless67 why? ..i'm only asking for the reason not trying to start an argument. but. welcoming a debate of sorts.. i just like to understands peoples reasons for liking something else..peace!!
oddjobjujitsu 1 year ago
Well, I personally think that Brazilian Ju-Jitsu is more of a street fighting sort violent thing, as compared to Taekwondo, which can take years to master and is a sort of art. It's more peaceful too, that's why Buddhist monks sometimes practice it. It's not just necessarily fighting, it's also sort of a way of mind. I still like Ju-Jitsu though, as it can be very handy in self defense situations, in fact, I think it's the best martial art for that sort of thing.
sockless67 1 year ago
Hi Sockless67.....ok thnx for the reply ...i like tkd i think it is very impressive huge high kicks and the like....if i tried to get my leg that high i would end up crippled...as for bjj being violent as you said .. i think that most martial arts can be violent.. especialy if you are on the recieving end..but bjj takes years to master too with the average black belt taking prob 10 -12 years bjj is very much like chess without the thinking and just doing.. you react to whatever i thrown up
oddjobjujitsu 1 year ago
sockless67 hi .... sorry but I think you are wrong. BJJ is not a streetfighting thing. BJJ is a sport thing. BJJ sport ground fighting has nothing relate with true selfdefense. It is a myth that BJJ is good for selfdefense. In the ''street'' BJJ is almost useless... (just my oppinion) .... For the street are from nature striking arts much more practical than sport ground fighting.....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 - it's your opinion but you are very wrong.
jiujitsuthug 1 year ago
@jiujitsuthug My opinion is that sport ground fighting is not true fighting. Did you think ground fighting is effective against a knife or maybe more than one opponent? In the street the smart fighter is always to his feets and not in the ground....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 - A knife? Unless you have a gun or another knife - you RUN. Anyone that knife fights knows you get cut no matter what. I agree with staying on your feet in the street if possible - but what if you are knocked down or taken down? If you don't know how wrestling or BJJ you are done... Jiujitsu is a tool that you use WITH standup - you should have it in your arsenal to be complete.
jiujitsuthug 1 year ago
@jiujitsuthug yes you got the point!! To run you must be in your feets and not in the ground. If you are knocked down or taked down you MUST try to stand immetiadly up in your feets and not to wrestling. Show for example Krav Maga , Defendu or Glima(Lausatoek style).
The last think you will do in the street is wrestling with the opponent.
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 in a one on one fight in the street with an unarmed opponent, wrestling and jiu jitsu are extremely effective.
Etaks89 1 year ago
@Etaks89 look .... traditional ju jitzu and traditional catch as catch can wrestling were more combative systems , than the modern sports ju jitzu and freestyle wrestling....
The modern sports wrestling and ju jitzu can only work against one opponent , if he respect the rules.... without this you can not do sport moves ..... Maybe you can against a human with substandart aggresivity... But against a dirty , a real ''streetfighter'' you are very vulnerable with sport grappling...
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 not true, have you ever tried learning jiu jitsu and wrestling, it works especially well against rigid, strong, aggressive people. Besides, they gas quickly, and after that point its like playing with a ragdoll. Jiu Jits works really well against no rules, don't forget that the grappler doesn't have to play by any rules, and we dont train for sport. We train to snap limbs and destroy rotator cuffs, the chokes aren't meant to subdue they are meant to kill.
Etaks89 1 year ago
@Etaks89 yes I am a ju jitzu practioner ... And I say from expirience that sport ju jitzu is not very good for a violence situation..... you speak always about playing and game. thats the difference. I mean about true fighting.... true selfdefense and not playing a game ....
Many athletes live in a phantasy world , because they think playing a game in the gym is true selfdefense....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@Etaks89 If you will grappling for selfdefense , look at the most traditional systems of ju jitzu , who had strikes too, or look at the traditional forms of catch as catch can wrestling.....
But only few true selfdefense situations are only 1vs1 .... The most important thing is to know hot to avoid violence , and to know don't to ''freeze'' under violence situations.....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@Etaks89 Also add close combat striking in your arsenal. Striking is the ''king of fighting'' .. But as I said the most important thing for selfdefense is to know how to work with stress and fear ...
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 I have a good stand up game, boxing and muay thai do well for me. I understand that a ground game alone wont cut it for all situations, thats why i try to learn every aspect of fighting. It just happens to be that with all the martial arts(traditional or otherwise) that I have extensively taken, jiu jitsu is the most useful and effective for REAL situations... just train gi bjj for more than 2 months (5 days a week), thats all you need to see how effective it is.
Etaks89 1 year ago
@Etaks89 BJJ??? BJJ is one of the most sportling variations of ju jitzu.... And the gi is very ''fake'' if you speak about selfdefense , because the ''evil guy'' has not a sporting gi....
BJJ is a very good sport, a very good game but my opinion is that if you will selfdefense you must learn true selfdefense and not sport games.....
And as I said the most important thing is to learn to deal with violence , believe me its not the same with sparring....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@Etaks89 and sport ground ''fighting'' has nothing to do with real ground surviving..... you must learn how to avoid violence and to try don't to escalate a conflict....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 well they don't encourage starting fights, thats for sure.... but they teach us "real ground surviving", by showing us how to mame limbs and pass people out, your brain can't go with out blood, and nearly all the chokes in gracie brazillian jiujitsu cut off the blood (not the air) to the brain. You don't pass out because you can't breath(that takes a few minutes), you pass out because your brain isn't getting blood(only takes a few seconds).
Etaks89 1 year ago
@Etaks89 ground surviving is much easier than you think... its not break limbs and make chokes on the ground.... ground surviving is hitting with what ever you can in the weak points that you can reach in his body and stand immediately up
If you are on the ground and he comes to you strike like a crazy machine with your feets to the vulnerable areas of his feets , and than if he is in the distance stay immediately up...thats surviving on the ground and not submissions and chokes...
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 Why I say its more effective for 1 v 1 is because in a stand up game you can't rely on your opponent to do any one particular thing. He could move anywhere or do anything. when grappling you can control his entire position, and dictate where you want the fight to go. This is especially effective against people who have never grappled, they give you submissions, they give you sweeps and passes. any one who's trained bjj or wrestling would agree.
Etaks89 1 year ago
@Etaks89 if the aggresor is on the ground , my opinion is to stand immediately up (like Lausatoek Glima and like Krav Maga) ... If you are in your feets you can fight with other guys , you can jump at the guy on the ground and finish him(bronco kick :-0) or you can run for you live ..... if you stay on the ground , even for same seconds you are very vulnerable to eventually friends of him or to weapons of the aggresor....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@Etaks89 a gi is a another point , the ''gi moves'' can not been very effective in a selfdefense situation....
ok you are right ... against a unexpiried weak person wou have advantage , but those persons are anyway not a threat for other persons ..
Against dirty, aggresive criminals you need effective striking ... if the other grabs you , try to avoid the throw and strike him with close combat hits.... or throw him and jump ot hit him ..
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 gracie jiu jitsu is not exclusive to the gi, you are extremely ignorant when it comes to jiu jitsu and its effectiveness, i cordially invite you to take real bjj classes for more than a month, with an open mind. and just take what you learn from it. Bruce Lee and chuck norris both learned a little bjj, infact chuck norris i think was a black belt if im not mistaken. BJJ works very well against aggressive criminals, learn it before you make claims about it.
Etaks89 1 year ago
@Etaks89 always gracie jiu jitzu and gracie jiu jiztu .... ''gracie'' jiu jitzu is only a copy from traditional judo..... What ever Bruce lee was also only a human and he was more influenced from Boxing, Savate and fencing but indeed also from jiu jitzu .....
I am not ignorant, only realistic.... As I said I train jiu jitzu myself. But I am bored with this art( at least with the sporting styles of it) ...
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99
If you train jiu-jitzu and know so much about it then you may want to start spelling it correctly (Jiu-Jitsu). Or else people may just think your a freakin liar.
keepbjjsimple 1 year ago
@keepbjjsimple names are bullshits ... ju jutzu , jiu jitzu , jawara etc ... all bullshits .. the art is important , not the name ... By the way show the art ''german ju jutzu'' and you will understand what I mean ...
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 it even works against bigger opponents who out power you, bjj is designed around leverage, not strength. We train gi, because the gi forces you to rely on leverage and technique over power and speed. Every fight i've been in, as an adult, the person would clinch several times with me, because they don't know what they are doing, and they dont like getting hit. Fights end up on the ground because people don't know how to defend clinches and the just fall over. bjj works
Etaks89 1 year ago
@Etaks89 yea thats the problem with the gi .... usually the ''bad guy'' has not a gi to rely on leverage and technique... And strength and size are ine grappling more important than in striking..... I am relative very musculary and I have a big advandage in graplling.... you will techniques for the chlinche.... stamp foot in his foot, kick to his shin, knee, elbow , headbutt, biting, gouging, hooks , strikes with the edge of the fist, chin jabs...
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@Etaks89 ok let dry this... go train for one monat Krav Maga , Combat Glima(Lausatoek) or other really combat directives and say than to me if sport tactics are fighting.....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@Etaks89 In some months I will stop learning ju jitzu and I will learning Savate(de Rue) who is for me much more efficience than the sporting styles of jiu jitzu...
The traditional styles of jiu jitzu are very good , but the sporting parts are like the name say only for sport...
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@Etaks89
Thats an old argument thats been proven weak. are there anyother arts more effective against a group? A person has to have the capability to stop one person before they can stop two or three.
keepbjjsimple 1 year ago
@keepbjjsimple yes many arts are more useful than the sport brasilian jiu jitzu ... BJJ is a sport, its for the gym, not for true selfdefense ....
BJJ is very good for muscle and endurance training but if you will selfdefense you must train in systems like Savate de Rue , Krav Maga, Kampfringen, Ninjutzu , traditional jiu jitzu , Guided Chaos , Bison System etc...
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 I think you've never fought against any Bjj real Black belt or any good MMA fighter. Yes they are sports but they're always fighting systems (much more real then Krav Maga and Bullshits like Ninjutzu). Also shooting with a gun can be a sport. Are you going to tell me that a good gun shooter isn't able to shoot good in real life??
Why don't you try to fight against a good MMA fighter with your Krav Maga and stuff...let's see
luke88skyv 1 year ago
@luke88skyv Have you ever tried to learn something about Krav Maga, Ninjutzu , Kampfringen, Guided Chaos or other arts???? Krav Maga and Ninjutzu are not bullshits.... They are true fighting systems , for selfdefense..... You can not compare sport arts with real selfdefense systems .... I do myself also ju jutzu and I understand that ju jutzu as trained today in sporting terms has nothing to do with selfdefense ... If you think only in sporting terms you lose the point .....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@luke88skyv yes a sport shooter can kill too but did you think really a sport shooter has a chance against a special forces soldier who trains for true war and with better weapons ?
If you will selfdefense add to your style also moderns selfdefense systems or traditional martial arts .... Specially BJJ as trained today is almost purely a sport and not a martial art ... If you try to make sport ground techniques in real life, than you are in a big problem ....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@luke88skyv By the way hand to hand combat is only a small part of selfdefense .... More important is to know how to avoid violence and criminality and how to avoid to fight ....If you don't fight than you are the true winner...
But if you MUST defende yourself , than you must know how not to ''freeze'' under your emotions ....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@luke88skyv and about Ninjutzu .... Taijutzu(unarmed system of Ninjutzu) is for real selfdefense , not like the modern sport arts..... And generally about ninjutzu what do you think you will do against a sword ,poison or a shuriken ??? Lol
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 all of those are illegal to carry while concealed. therefore making it ineffective.
munkymaskproductions 1 year ago
@munkymaskproductions if you speak about ninjutzu , Taijutzu has selfdefense without weapons... And generally if you think generally to hit with a fist is legal , than you are wrong...Omly in selfdefense you can hit one other humans . I mean pure selfdefense , not pride fighting and bullshits like this ...
In pure selfdefense you can also use a gun :-) .. as I say in selfdefense you have not limits.I will use shuriken, sword, poison , gun , bottle , attack in the back of opponent etc.
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
i neva got into ju-jitsu. i personally prefer muay thai. woner wat is better though.
joshboy199 2 years ago
that's like asking what's more delicious, chocolate cake or lasagna
yukiism 2 years ago
haha, thats a fair point.
joshboy199 2 years ago
@joshboy199 they are both the best in "what they are" in my opinion. Muay Thai is the best for standup ..Jiu Jitsu best for ground game.
hicks1376 2 years ago
you shouldnt compare 2 styles like that.
obviously you like the fast-pacedness and brutality of MT.
JJ is really efficient especially in self-defense scenarious. look at some steven segall movies to see why
AznInvazn69Theory 2 years ago
i do both bjj and muay thai you really cant compare the two because one is standing and the other is on the ground
RicanMan16 2 years ago
judo is ju/jiu jitsu without the letal moves
marcelo1302 2 years ago
this is called "Koshi jime" or "Koshi Shime"
dutchspanishfly 2 years ago
i feel sorry for the guy whos being choked
hes prolly like "IS IT OVER YET"
chiappina 2 years ago
We were always taught on clock chokes to put your head to the matt to make sure you apply enough pressure and weight to get the choke. Too unstable otherwise.
Etaks89 2 years ago
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Good technique and good video.
If you want to see some flying submissions, look for my videos.
fightstardeluxeco 2 years ago
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This stuffs great for comp, but aint no1 sinking this stuff in on the street
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OJiuJitsuO 2 years ago
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..or you could jump over and throw the rear naked choke in
AllMyPrey 2 years ago
ya it did hurt and still does i hope i heal soon and when i do everythings ok bcuz i dont wanna have a fucked up arm 4 ever... it suck my cut arm is my strong arm and its half the size of my weak due 2 all the blood that i lost... im 15 btw
rubbax27 2 years ago
i mixed my tae kwon do with kyo kushin karate and kick boxing so yeah lol and wrestling with jiu jitsu
kaliedoscopesharinga 2 years ago
Oh man Koshi Jime I thought I was going to see "the greatest BJJ move" that is an old JUDO move. Typical change the moves name and call it "BJJ"
ReisterJP 2 years ago
Well, a ton of the stuff in BJJ has been in judo before it. Even things like the gogoplata have proper japanese names and judo applications. Given that though, I'm not convinced if I went down to the judo dojo tonight they'd be able to pull off a clock choke on me, or know what it is. Fair enough, my tachi-waza is terrible. Just different focuses. If you want to see truly original things, look up something like 50/50 guard or x guard. Gurgel is all about basics.
viator22 2 years ago 2
Viator22, you stupid fuck.
Stop giveing everybody false info, im tired of you people.
"BJJ has been in Judo before it", Wtf, Judo came from Jiu Jitsu, the Japanese Jiu Jitsu.
Theres a pretty big difference between Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, and Japanese JIu Jitsu.
And I promise, Judo did not come before Japanese Jiu Jitsu.
Curatalo506 2 years ago
Judo came after Japanese Jiu Jitsu, and Judo is just a collection of all the Japanese Jiu Jitsu throws.
So, SUCK ASS, you are wrong.
All of Judo, every last little bit, came from Japanese Jiu Jitsu
Curatalo506 2 years ago 11
I never argued that it didn't. However, BJJ is descended more directly from Judo than traditional Ryu-ha. And Judo in itself is a condensed and, I'd say, superior version of the older arts. Kano eliminated techniques that couldn't be practiced safely, and so we can "practice." It's not a coincidence that the single school of Judo dominated all the traditional schools of ju-jitsu in the first Red and White games.
viator22 2 years ago
@Curatalo506 Judo came from Japanese Jiu Jitsu, but it isn't 'just' all the throws. It contains plenty of ground techniques, but most dojos don't focus on them because they aren't particularly important for competitions.
ManicParroT 1 year ago
@Curatalo506 but judo perfected them
Japanese jiu jitsu is more towards drag down and judo is technically better for throws
mmaninjitsu 1 year ago
@Curatalo506 Judo PERFECTED Japanese JJ... They even had a competition in Japan not long after Jigoro Kano (credited creator of Judo) started his Judo school and JUDO won 12 out of 15 matches with one ending a draw... Truth is Judo took what Japanese JJ was and it threw out all the useless extreme power moves and all the kill moves and perfected it... Then Brazil came along and took out all the stand up to create BJJ....
SlugDropsonheads 1 year ago
@Curatalo506 i knew that already, which suprises me cause ive only found a handfull of people who arent complete idiots so congradulations on being in being in the group of non-stupid people, thank you lol
trickster20691 1 year ago
@Curatalo506 Not true.
electronikita 1 year ago
@Curatalo506 not all of it
most of it was, however a couple moves (such as the circle sacrifice throw or tomoe nage) came from when Kano Jigoro was attempting to defeat his larger partner
JJJ and Judo are not only different by that, but by the Kuzushi
I'm not arguing your point, you are one of the few non idiots on youtube, just refining it :)
mmaninjitsu 11 months ago
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Ryan Ballenger AKA @mmaninjitsu is a lying, delusional piece of shit. First off, he's a 16 year old pimpled faced tool who pretends he's older and lies repeatedly about his age. Secondly, he obviously doesn't have a blackbelt in BJJ or Judo nor does he have any claim to be able to teach Muay Thai. This dumb little kid has made countless false claims and personas on the internet because he's such a complete loser in real life that he lives in a delusional, pretend world on the web. Totally sad..
DonStirFrye 1 month ago
@Curatalo506 Thats not true, for example Kata guruma is originaly from Judo. I respect BJJ very much, but the true thing is that BJJ never raised from Jiu-jitsu, but from Judo, Mitsuo Maeda eas 6th dan in Judo.
Gualf 11 months ago
@Curatalo506 judo is to jiu jitsu as jeet kune do is to kung fu
j0shred1 8 months ago
@Curatalo506
Your dumb. The art was derived from the Japanese martial art of Kodokan judo in the early 20th century. The art began with Mitsuyo Maeda (aka Conde Koma, or Count Coma in English), a member of the then-recently-founded Kodokan. Maeda was one of five of Judo's top groundwork experts that Judo's founder da left Japan in 1904.
TheEggerton 5 months ago
Nice Koshi Jime!
reiksmarshal 2 years ago
Tai kwon do and kung fu arent' so practical for kombat.
Liior 2 years ago
But neither is any singular art.. Which is why people normally wrestle or use Jiu Jitsu too.
patwow 2 years ago
yea they r. I KO people all the time in Mortal Kombat by using my kung fu.
Centurion480 2 years ago
bjj is the ultimate martial art.
luismelhernandez1974 2 years ago
just like anything else you need balance....bjj will allow you to neutralize one opponent but this will consume your body (and ability to react to a 2nd attacker) for this you need a strike fighting style such as tai, taekwondo, kung fu any thing non grapple ...boxing is not so good as i focuses on one single strike on about 4/5 variations
bplacs14 2 years ago
Actually boxing is one of the best options for hand strikes, no matter the number of techniques is the quality.
Dudongo86 2 years ago
good man good explanation
xcvcvxxcvcvx 2 years ago
I'd say Muay Thai is the best striking style (for sheer variety and power.)
reeceyfezza 2 years ago 3
atgreed. muy thai has the most variety but not necessarily power. if i had to choose any striking art to be the most all round id choose muy thai. but taekwondo has some of the most deadly kicking strikes. so i hear you though dude. muy thai is awsome
AKwakIsAwsome 2 years ago
Tae Kwon Doe have the fastest kicks, not the most powerful. But yeah Muay Thai is sweet.
reeceyfezza 2 years ago
me 2 but yestyrday i elbowed a mirror at a club n ripped up my whole arm :) i got 30 stiches and a non stoping pain in the back of my fore arm
rubbax27 2 years ago 2
oo damn, thats gotta hurt.
reeceyfezza 2 years ago
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what variety? muay thai really only has a handful of techniques.
kempobrad 2 years ago
In Muay Thai you use punches, elbows, knees and kicks. While in other striking styles you might only use punches (boxing) or just use punches and kicks (kickboxing)
reeceyfezza 2 years ago
there are alot more striking arts than just muay thai, boxing, and kickboxing. most of which have more 'variety' than muay thai
kempobrad 2 years ago 4
reeceyfezza you are wrong if you think that only muai thai has elbow and knee techniques.... Almost all striking martial arts use elbows and knees.... For example, Savate(de Rue) , Kung fu ( many styles of Kung fu have elbows and knees techniques), Glima(Lausatoek style) , karate and many other styles....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
I didn't mean ALL striking styles, I was just talking about Muay Thai, Boxing and Kickboxing. I know that plenty of martial arts use elbows and knees.
reeceyfezza 1 year ago
For street there's also lethwei, or Burmese Boxing which has everything muay thai has plus headbutts, so it all comes down to the choice of whether or not you favor headbutts, lol.
runemonk1 2 years ago
Yeah, I guess so.
reeceyfezza 2 years ago
headbutts are a terrible strategy
crazyrockeradd 2 years ago
I know :P but it's oddly comforting to know that you're "certified" to "use your head" XP BEEN WAITING TO PULL THAT CAT OUT OF THE BAG! lol
runemonk1 2 years ago
LOL gave me a chuckle
crazyrockeradd 2 years ago
I thought headbutting was illegal, and that's why the name became muay thai because it only had 8 points of attack instead of 9?
tojiro12 1 year ago
@tojiro12 In Muay Thai, and most combat-based sports today, yes, it is. But Lethwei still allows headbutts, and Lethwei is Burmese, not Thai, hope I clarified for ya man.
runemonk1 1 year ago
lol 1:37 Cypress Hill Instrumental
Cohetzatitla 2 years ago
I do not recommend bjj or any ground fighting martial arts for multiple opponents. Learn any stand up martial arts like muay thi, karate for this purpose. In Robert Drysdale Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Academy, I am getting bjj training under Robert Drysdale, bjj world champion. Visit his official website, RobertDrysdale. Net to watch bjj videos.
lasvegasbjj 2 years ago
lasvegasbjj = queer
shadetyped 2 years ago
u sir are a legend
HunterCG 2 years ago
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lasvegasbjj 2 years ago
you sould do BJJ and standing martial arts
TheTrueFarfala 2 years ago
if you wanna take on multiple opponents try taking krav maga
joemoma90 2 years ago
If you want to take on multiple opponents, buy a gun! It's hard to take out one good opponent using Krav Maga, let alone a group of them. Some combination of wrestling, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Boxing, and Thai Boxing is what every top fighter in the world uses, so unless your group of attackers consists of school children and the elderly, you might want to reconsider the Krav Maga, which was apparently developed to brutalize peasants with at checkpoints in the occupied territories.
insertsloganhere 2 years ago 2
no krav maga was developed for the israeli army to use back in the 50's
joemoma90 2 years ago
are u retarded, krav maga was developed for Israeli commandos to use when they lose their weapons
daGster1313 2 years ago
are U retarded? krav maga and all other military fightintechs is developed to rais the confidence of the soldiers, if they lose their weapons and run into their enemy, they get shot stupid. if the enemy is unarmed and let's say from afghanistan he'll prolly KICK your ass since their national sport is olympic wrestling and if he's not alone, he will kick your ass anyway due to superiority of numbers. krav maga MIGHT give you some time for your buddy to come along.... with a gun.
Islandsproductions 2 years ago
krav maga is the shit i go to 3 classes a week i love it!
GEOdeb15 2 years ago
that training is crazy! ive been to the toughest Muay Thai camps but i wouldnt even try Krav Maga lol thats disarming and defence against multiple enemys right?
w0lfie08 2 years ago
ya knife, gun,bat,stick disarms,and just brutal knees,elbows,shots to the groin,headbutts,punches,kicks anything else you can think of,lol it is very fun and great exercise,i recomend you try it.its probably the most realistic and effective fighting technique.i also take bjj mauy thai an boxing
joemoma90 2 years ago
I agree, bjj and kick boxing/boxing are great realistic fight techniques, though ive never heard of this krav maga
piecheeze 2 years ago
of course you can fight multiple opponents,but to do that you must be able to destroy each opponent by breaking a bone and doing it quick,its hard but possible.
like500pakis 2 years ago 3
A hapkido guy fighting a bjj guy is like a chihuahua fighting a lion. Please don't make comments on things you obviously don't understand!
adpala 2 years ago
True story (I live in Los Angeles)
There was one dude trained in BJJ for 5 sum years. He tried to go up against 3 punk kids. He took one down. The other 2 fighters? They smashed his head in. Just kicked him senseless. The BJJ guy was in a coma for 2 days. Family decided to pull the plug since it there was nothing that could me medically done (& cost too much for intubation).
So everyone saying BJJ is the bestest, nah. It ain't. 1-on-1, but that's it.
NEXTLOVER 2 years ago
yer ture, but alot of fights are only between 2 people ( 1 on 1 ) so you are going to come out on top on them types of fights, and also bjj is very useful for when there on top of you that you can easliy filp your opponent over or get them off you so you can stand back up. BBJ+Mauy Thia the ultimate combo ;)
wii60own 2 years ago
There is no martial art that enables you to go 3 on 1 consistently.
saltyseaweed 2 years ago 3
ur right bjj is the ultimate for 1 0n 1 combat. but that guy probly was trained in tournament style bjj with gi. either way against multiple attackers u never go to the ground. so thats why u learn muay thai as well. i know a guy who got jumped by 10 ppl at a party when he was drunk he was in muay thai for 6 months and kicked the shit outta all of them. they had to resort to their bitchy bear mace then he was like "im not gettin maced" at wich point they proceded in being little ghetto bitches.
lizzardkingg420 2 years ago
maan:( i'll never understand how people can actually go 10 on 1 and be proud of it.. you're right about what you said there, 1on1 bjj is great and those fights do often go to the ground. but when there are multiple opponents you would like to know another martial art aswell, muay thai is probably really good. personally i go taekwon-do and bjj. works:)
ichmedmustifa 2 years ago
mauy thai i like i go to and its really effiecent striking system, tae kwon do is underestimated. there a few guys go to muay thai with me that went to tkd before and they excelled way faster and there kicks are sick. i wasnt at the fight but from what i heard he gave a guy a seizure from punching him once. in the time it took for the guy to start shaking and fall he had already dropped 4 other guys. they eventually had to pull out their mace.
lizzardkingg420 2 years ago
I trained tkd from 5-15 and never looked back sorry but tkd is not as practical as muay thai or western boxing if your in high school i would definatley say go and wrestle you will develop great takedowns, great base not to mention the conditioning. finally bjj IMO it is one of the if not the best martial art for 1 on 1 fighting eventually I hope to get back in the gym and finally earn my purp belt (damn recession).
ragincajunchris 2 years ago
I know it's not as good in fighting, but I like the sport, also, it helps alot ofcourse. I've been doing my share of boxing and it's fine and works, but I don't like it, not my style. (:
ichmedmustifa 2 years ago
You're right. A person should probably go to other martial arts that could be effective against multiple opponents before going on to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
bangstg05 2 years ago
thats such a myth.. there are no martial arts that are effective against multiple opponents...
what u want against multiple opponents is a gun....
axemurderer27 2 years ago 11
or a BRAIN
PharrellShaymar 2 years ago
@axemurderer27 theres one from hawi or however u spell it called hydrokembo os some weird shit. its for street fighting, and multi targets. it was on fight quest
KillerValentine 1 year ago
Wrong...look at it like this 4 dudes come at you most likly they know each other and are friends with each other if you can get one of those guys into a submission move and DONT LET GO tell him your not going to stop untill they stop because by this time most likely your going to be beaten on by the other 3, but imagine the screams and and cries like "guys stop beating him my arm is broken or my head is about to pop off my shoulders" yeah tell me bjj doesnt work against multiple opponents
DCurt2287 2 years ago 3
I think you experienced it. if you did not, what an imagination.
lasvegasbjj 2 years ago
right mate u gotta be smart and know how to talk to get out of those situations.But u shouldn't be on the ground though
frenchguy09 2 years ago
I do Kuk Sool won, it's been good, but I'm going to quit and start BJJ instead - the "BJJ punks" on youtube have converted me! I've had enough of all the forms and dancing around in "traditional martial arts"
theMAXILOPEZpsycho 2 years ago
It's so weird to listen to all these DVD's with the same translator's voice, it seems like all those instructors are the same people.
ketteltime 2 years ago
ROTFL@ the music!!
MPA2000 2 years ago
is the cypress hill song actually in the instructional? if so, fabio gurgel is even cooler than previously thought..
nirvana2465 3 years ago
Morodok, If a Fighter trains in bjj and is a cage fighter, what makes you think all he knows is bjj???
slipknotbitches 3 years ago
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We can see that Brazilian Jujitsu is great against one individual opponent in a cage, but unfortunately we do not have that option just to defense ourselves against one attacker at all times. Show us how Brazilian Jujitsu stand against 2 or 3 fighters from other MMA.
Morodok 3 years ago
lol u said that already on another video -.-
1337ScubaTal 3 years ago
Morodok you fag.
stop posting the same comment one very video.
dont be jelous theres not a bjj gym in your area.
justisftw 3 years ago
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i think bjj sucks too. anyone with true power can easily break out of these fancy holds, all you need is willpower. much rather just land a side or roundhouse kick in the mouth than rolling around on the floor
dude1278 2 years ago
i beg to differ, to truly understand the human body's weakest link is the key to win any fight or any match.
windlightx 2 years ago
idk man, knowing weak point in the body and rolling around on the ground are 2 different things. hapkido is much better as it allows you to incapacitate your opponent WHILE staying on your feet using weak points to your advantage. check it out cause its pretty sweet
dude1278 2 years ago
To each there own but willpower wont save you from someone who knows what they are doing if you yourself do not.
Fancy roundhouse quick = easy takedown for any grappler probably get your back on the way down as well.
guyograbill08 2 years ago