A magician can do a better job than this guy amature trick. They show all possible angles like in levitating object. This dude wont even let us see what is behind the disc. I got a video of myself flying and teleport does it make it real?
I can't believe so many people look at this stuff and say it doesn't work, you ARE transferring energy and following the laws of thermodynamics. Magnets lose magnetism over time when the force is used. Simple no brainer. Those who say it doesn't work, go back to high school.
It is always on. There are two person. On the begining of video a second person is holding a cammera. When he move magnet to wheel, the secon person tun hair drier into the wheel and wheel spin up. When he goes with magnet aside of wheel, wheel spin up because magnet in his hand doesn't brakes any more.
So what your saying by "its real" is that he has a huge electro-magnet under the table turning his motor/magnet rotor. LMAO charlatans and their shenanigans .
Hi Frank. You make this look so simple! And probably is, but I try with a bigger version and doesn't work!!! Does the magnets have an specifications or not? What type of magnets you used? Can Yo help please? Thanks man.
for all the comments on how this is bs you guys still live on a flat planet try it yourself & then speak don't speak before you try it and there is free energy thats what tesla came up with get off fossil fuel & make it on free energy the planet forms it own energy that we can tap into so why do you still want to use a fossil fuel that is unstable & hurts the planet? Marco Rodin see his design! So you go ahead & tell him & all the people that pay for his design that they are BS too...
Permanent magnets are not a source of energy. Magnet wheels do not and have never worked. Conclusion: The demonstration is fraudulent. At about 1:57, a hidden power source is switched on causing the motor to turn and the light bulb to light.
He he he... some guy made a video and we're all talking about it. We really want to believe! I want to believe. Still, I love to see what people come up with.
MAGNETS CAN NOT BE CALLED OVERUNITY....there is not scientifically accepted way to measure the working output of a magnet there for no way to tell if its at 100%...this is because most of todays scientist are close minded over coached book smart idiots who couldnt hold a candle to the great minds of history...*deep breath* feels good to say that...would feel better if i could scream it in your faces...and i really wish people would stop reposting other poeoples videos..wheres the original
@hardhatg69 Actually there is a way to measure the energy output of a magnet. The energy output is 0 because a magnetic field has no energy. It is a force but force and energy are not the same thing. Just as newton never found a way to make perpetual energy ith gravity neither will these people ever find a way to do so with magnets. For some very similar reasons too.
@kurisu925 ok..maybe my wording was off...but if you know anything about electricity, about how a transformer works or how alternating current is created you would understand that there is a valid basis for educated people looking into making energy with the magnetic force from a standard magnet...... even if magnets could only be used to make a friction free bearing(which i still havent seen) it would be a pretty big step in the engineering of mototrs and the like
@hardhatg69 We are far closer to finding a friction free bearing using liquid helium. When cooled to near absolute zero liquid helium becomes what is called a super fluid. It has absolutely no friction to it and is currently the only material knowen to have 0 friction. Catch is you gotta keep it cooled to near absolute zero. Even with magnetic bearings you would still have some friction with the surrounding air between the magnets.
REAL Free energy technology exists!But the Oil coporations life depends on covering this up,Check this free energy magnet motor at LT-MAGNET-MOTORdotCOM ,Be part of the revolution!
it's clearly a fake simple behind the circular piece of plastic we have another two batteries one is connected to led and other one is connected to engine presented in the video so the engine move circular piece of plastic and other battery give energy to led very simple so now do you understand that law of termodynamics is umbreakable ?
u stupid people. listen carefully how he talked about the polarity of the magnets. it is not n-s-n-s. it is all out. so the magnet line will be pointing out perpendicular to the arc. not tangential to the arc.
In metacafe video sharing site like youtube has something special. They paid users if their videos can attain attention* ( game of marketing ) but they do not inspect the users's videos.
you dont need professional expertise to know this doesn't work for real.
he has a coil under the table thats why he has it aligned like that. the magnet gives it the initial push needed to start spinning. hes probably using a reed switch or something similar to pulse it. theres probably a car battery under the table with the coil. this has to be so cause u can see the light is being lit from induction via the motor, not a battery.
@freddyboy420 my one is bigger no magnets , no gravity , no friction . its basicly a bucket of hot air that makes power and attracts the girls lol pml
Yeah whatever... I am going to try it at home before I start putting up videos saying that this is a prank... If your not sure and can't be assed to do the research maybe you should shut the hell up because at the end of the day your opinion is not valid.
I doubt that he drilled a hole into his table but clearly it is fake. With the color of the wood in the table and lack of quality in the video I would say a thin enamel coated wire would be allmost impossible to notice with out close inspection. I havent seen one yet but I will look through it a few moe times. But with the quality of the video if one is there I might not see it.
this does work, i've guilt a similar model myself(with weaker magnets) and produced just under 2 volts. keep in mind, i used MUCH weaker magnets than used in this video. there are huge possibilities with this technology, don't assume it's fake because you don't understand the concept.
very thin wires running through the table and super glued to the back side of the matches. that must be how he did it. theres no way that configuration of mags could work!!
Shut the fuck up about god, what the hell does this video have to do about god? Anyway, is this real? If so, couldn't this be made large scale for free energy?
@sqhschief - if you look at similar videos you'll see this is one of a few "pranks" made by free energy believers for some obscure reason. They are being dumb asses just to piss people off.
@sqhschief Free energy is impossible at least in the manner you are thinking because energy can not be created or destroyed. But we do have free energy in the sense that you dont have to pay for it. Unfortunatly there are a lot of con artists out there who prey on the ignorant. They pretend to "invent" an overunity machine and even put together a fake demonstration normally in the form of a video. I know of at least 3 such people who are living off of the donations for thier "research".
@kurisu925 You are realy, realy stupid. You are talking about some phisical laws ("...because energy can not be created or destroyed....") but you don't know anything about magnets, magnet polarity etc. Read some book about this and then talk. People like you make me .... People like you pretend how smart is, but in reality you are living prove of stupidity and zero point talking. Shut up and study. THEONEAGAIN - good work. Go forward and leave this stupid morons.
@stash970 Sure I dont know shit about magnets right... That railgun that I got kicked out of my highschool science fair for couldn't possibly have required some knowledge of magnetic fields. "people like you pretend how smart is"? LEarn to speak some god damn english before you try to insult my intelligence please. I know more about magnetic fields than you do about the english laungage.
@kurisu925 Yes my "dear" friend. My english is not perfect, because is my fift language that I speak (Slovenian, Serbian, Croatian, German, English & Italian). But is stil good enough that you understand me. I am not pretend how smart I am. I just say that I have enough people like you, wich always want to have last word and always drop hardwork of somebody to nothing. About your knowledge of magnets you can just dream on.
@stash970 The only one here whod does not understand magnetic fields is you. And as much as I would love to educate you on the subject... I don't think you are going to let go of the idiotic idea that the conventional laws of physics dont apply to them any way so it would just be a waste of my time. Good luck with your life as a sheep following every word that comes out of the mouths of free energy conmen.
@kurisu925 Ye, ye. Like I say. People like you always want to have last word and like you say is a waste of my time listen those empty words from your mouth. People like you still think that earth is center of universum. Right, my genius friend? But you know, like old latin said: HONESTA TURPITUDO EST PRO CAUSA BONA. I forgive you your blindless my friend. Be good and live long ;-)
@stash970 Check out this book "Secrets of Antigravity" By Paul A. LaViolette. In it he claims he has built magnet motors that power an antigravity machine he has also built.... closer inspection reveals that Paul is the president of The Starburst Foundation. Do Check out thier website. Be sure to google earth the adress they list at the bottom for mail in donations. That is Paul A. Laviolette's house.
@stash970 Also his company website looks like it was made with microsoft word and all of the projects listed in it that he is supposidly working on are plagiarized from the websites of other companies. The man is clearly a fraud just like every other free energy "expert" I have ever investigated. You call me blind and yet you bow down before conmen and outright thieves as if they where gods.
@kurisu925 Read some books & patents of Nikola Tesla. He's discowery free E in 1901 year. Just for information. And say thnx to this man because of him you have electricity in your home. Study man and some day you wil "see". Regards my friend.
@stash970 Yes I am quite aware of Nicola tessla. Apparently more so than you because if you actually understand tessla's work he did not beleive in what you call "free energy" by the way you mean overunity. Tessla blelieved he could use the earth's atmosphere like a battery using a large tessla coil to draw energy from it. This "battery" would be recharged by the same processes that generate thunderstorms. There is no overunity involved with that it is simply harvesting a renewable resource.
@kurisu925 If you know work of N.Tesla then you know that he belief in free E. When he discovery this E in 1901, he named this E Radiant E. Please read book Tesla Science where is everything wrote. Regards, V.S.S.
@kurisu925 I see that you don't know anything about Tesla. If you read book that I wrote to you. That you saw that Tesla not just belief in free E, but he discovery this E and give her a name RADIANT E. But people like you always want to have last word. Read this book and you'll see that we have a lot of free E all around us. Regards, V.S.S.
@stash970 You wanna know the truth about tessla. He was a genious beyond what most can comprehend and like many other geniuses before him in his later years his mind snapped under the weight of his own genius. Thats right nicolatessla whent a little crazy in his later years. That is why only his earlier work actually works. And that radiant energy you put in all caps and consistantly refuse to type more than just E when talking about energy came after he started going nuts.
@kurisu925 First of all. Lastname of Nikola Tesla has write Tesla with one "s" and not Tessla with two "ss" like you write. Second you are talking about he started going nuts. Things like this can say only people which they don't know anything about Nikola. Just for your information here is patent no. 685,957 - Apparatus for Utilising Radiant Energy and patent no. 685,958 - Method of Utilising Radiant Energy which are patented at 21st March 1901. This two no. are prove who is here nuts. Regards
@stash970 Don't get pissy over one typo if you yourself can barely speak at all. Also you have no understanding about how the patent office works at all do you. The patent office does not have to test and ensure that a device works to issue a patent for it. A patent means you own an idea not that it works. If I glued a pinecone to my ass and sent in a schematic of it calling it a time machine they would issue me a patent for it.
@kurisu925 Congratulation my friend! You are success to prove people, me and yourself that you don't have any idea about what are you talking. You are like a blind man who pretend that he see perfect. You are talking that you test a lot of apparatus but anyone don't work. So test apparatus from Tesla patent no. 685,957 For smart guy like you will be quiet simple to build and test this simple apparatus and then you see one big new world of free E which, OUUU MY GOD!!! It works. So simple and work
@stash970 once again I must ask you to please learn to speak fucking english before trying to insult my intelligence. With that said... I know your just talking out of your ass when you say that you made one and it worked because when I was younger and stupid as hell like you I fell for the same bull shit you are falling for now. And yes I remember quite clearly several times when I was dissapointed to find that patents I came across did not work. And yes I tested that very patent you mentioned.
@kurisu925 you are very sad man, you know. I am dissapoointed on you. I think that you much better man but now I see that you just another lier who speak I try this, I try that but at the end I see that you are just one sad man, which are try to convince other how smart he is." And yes I tested that very patent you mentioned." -nothing else but ONE BIG LIER. You are very dissapont me. I think that you are man which wanna something to learn, but you wana nothing else but fight with people. SAD
@utopiasspeb I am embarrasing myself am I? I am not the one who can not figure out that magnet B can not overcome the force of magnet C using the force of magnet A if magnets A and C are equal in strength. Magnet B will allways come to rest between magnet's A and C. Diagram below...
@kurisu925 perhaps instead of being oblivios to everything everyone says, perhaps you should listen and work with them to find overunity. Your approach is self defeating. Tesla indeed believed in a renewable source of energy. you grab the energy out of the air and use it to power whatever you want. This renewable energy is almost endless, in the fact that is renews faster then can be used. So in the very essense it is unlimited. just like oil is a renewable energy source.it is just not clean
@stormpoet76 A renewable energy source is not overunity because it is drawing it's power from an external source which is replenished by natural processes. That is what tessla believed could be done with the ionosphere using the same processes that generate thunderstorms. Overunity is where you create energy with no external energy source required which is physically impossible.
@kurisu925 perhaps you should change your definition of overunity then.
if energy is infinite due to cyclic renewing and lasts for an infinite amount of time hence never running out because mother earth is creating infinite cyclic energy according to the theory of overunity it meets and exceeds the requirements , everything else is semantics. so oil which is combustable energy and infinite/cyclic is indeed overunity. the problem is that it is not clean hence the search for a new source.
@stormpoet76 Overunity is when you put in X energy and get more then X back out. It is being over 100% effecient. What you are talking about is using existing energy that has been gathered and stored by natural processes. With overunity lets say your machine was 110% efficient well connect the output to the input and you get infinite energy. Multiply your input times 1.1 an infinite number of times... That is what your output is. But this is impossible.
@kurisu925 thank you for the explanation, I already understood this concept though I think you do not understand what I am talking about. So I will try to explain it in another way.
x energy= infinite; using that energy will never run out because nature is perfectly cyclic and unity 100 percent when nature is used 10 percent the natural order of things comes in and equalizes things back up to 100 percent therefore if this is true it means we have a infinite supplt of energy.
@stormpoet76 It is not an infinite amount of energy. There is a limited amount of energy in the cycle at any given moment in time. Also all natural processes consume more energy then they produce. When plants die and eventually become fossile fuels the energy that remains left behind stored in thier chemical make up Is far less then even just the energy they absorbed from the sun in a mere month let alone thier entire lives.
@kurisu925 that is one theory yes. pertaining to fossil fuels. but i still believe that you are missing my point about infinite energy.accoding to einstiens theory there is no new energy and energy doesnt get erased, it simply changed from one form to another there could never be overunity. This I agree with you in exactness. What the point I am explaining is that it is possible to make a self sustaining harness of energy to make it useful for a longer period of time. sorta like the capacitors..
@stormpoet76 What you are saying still comes down to gathering energy from an external source and then storeing it. It is no different from drilling for oil and storeing it in barrels or setting up a solar panel to charge a battery.
@kurisu925 finally you understand what I'm talking about. renewable energy aka mother natures cyclic energy "batteries" ionosphere(lightning), fossil fuels, gravity,magnetism,solar,hydro,volcanic(thermal),wind,radiation. I think I'm missing a few but its late forgive me. The point is always how to harness the energy efficiently and effectively. Lightning comes to mind when thinking of overunity. Why do you think tesla was so taken with it?
@stormpoet76 What you dont understand is the definition of overunity. Unity is what it is to be at 100% effeciency while overunity is any thing higher then 100% effeciency. When they talk about over unity they are infact talking about making a generator that manages to put out more energy then it consumes and power itself with it's own output. Natural processes require more energy in then what they put out they are not over 100% efficient at any stage. They usually draw thier energy from the sun
Your comment "Self taught people often have a fool for a teacher." Adam Peenum. I don't believe this to be true. I believe the fool is the one who takes what the teacher says to heart and never dose any thinking for them self. Then get upset when they realized that they spent money on something that might be a lie.
@HHONOW - the magnets in the middle of the outer ring only spin because they sit on a spherical base that causes the central piece to spin when moved across a surface by the repelling force of the outer ring. The central magnets only start to spin when the outer ring is moved. This device doesn't even approach free energy in any form.
LiamXaoh....Thanks for commenting. Since energy cannot be created nor destroyed, the concept of Free energy is confusing. Even devices which seem to violate the known laws of physics are drawing energy from somewhere.
A common misconception on the hamel device is that there is spinning motion. This is not the case. It's more of a wobbling. There is slow circular motion at the points of the cones, but most of the motion is wobble, and it is in a rhythm.
@HHONOW - I don't know of any working devices that seem to be violating the known laws of physics. If they really work then the way energy is being transferred is known. If you know of an example please clarify.
Semantics with the spinning and wobbling. It runs off the axis rotation of the ball for a period to gain speed and then like any spinning top it wobbles until rotating on the axis when the outer ring is not being moved.
I understand the principles so I don't need to make one.
Examples of devices which seem to violate the known laws of physics: Herman Anderson's Water fueled Ford LTD, Stan Meyer's water fueled dune buggy, Charles Garrett's water fueled car(1932), etc. Do You Believe? The Hamel device DOES NOT rely on Axle rotation to convert energy. The wobble reestablishes the point of rotation in a predictable fashion. This point of rotation changes in sync with finding equilibrium. Are you referring to the ring, ball and magnet demo. on a flat table?
Yes, more specifically powered by the mixture of hydrogen,oxygen,and ambient air. The hydrogen, and oxygen derived from electrolysis. The Alternator/Generator supplied all electrical energy needed to run the automobile. It is stated that it takes more energy to separate the Hydrogen/Oxygen from the water than the energy which results from it, however this was not the case. These systems produced the HHO mixture on the fly. I know the definition of Axis and Axle quite well.
@HHONOW Not correct. The energy released from oxidising hydrogen in the presence of oxygen is 285.8kJ/mole. As the entropy of the gases decreases by 48.7kJ/mole due to the combustion process the efficiency is (285.8-48.7)/285.8 x 100% = 83%. Similarly the production of the gases yields 237.1kJ/mole plus the energy required to maintain entropy. You'll find those numbers in every chemistry book that covers the subject.
Thanks, I am not referring to diatomic hydrogen, but monatomic hydrogen which when combusted yields an 1800 to 1 transformation. These inventors whose vehicles were running on this mixture were called frauds.
@HHONOW - where do you get this made up nonsense from? The bond energy in H2 to separate to H is published as 435.2kJ/mole. That is not 1800 times anything. Monatomic hydrogen is not an electrolysis by-product as hydrogen atoms in water go straight to H2. Monatomic hydrogen has only been observed at less that 1 deg. Kelvin (minus 273 deg. C) but then you'd know that. So now you're telling me HHO cars make H and store it at close to absolute zero!!!
Please do not insult my intelligence. I have studied chemistry. These processes have not been embraced by mainstream science for very obvious reasons. I suggest you dig a little deeper and take the blinders off The 1800 to 1 reaction is exactly what happens when the Hydrogen, Oxygen and Ambient air reverts back into water. The reaction when ignited is explosive, then immediately implosive. This is not made up nonsense at all.
@HHONOW - the previous information I have quoted is correct. If mainstream science doesn't embrace something then it is usually quackery.
Cite a reference to show where your numbers came from.
You know chemistry!? Then why say hydrogen and oxygen AND ambient air? All you need is hydrogen and oxygen to combine to produce water. You don't need air.
Unless you can provide supporting laboratory test information your figures will remain made up nonsense.
The information you quoted is not at issue here. What is, is the type of hydrogen being produced by the electrolysis process. Whether you believe it or not is not important. The fact that it was done, and suppressed is.
There is plenty of reason to suppress this technology....the primary reason is money.
I will not defend my scientific background with you as it is apparently pointless here.
@HHONOW - it was done and now is suppressed. You have got to be kidding. How come no publications mention the formation of H (and not H2) through electrolysis except those tits on free energy conspiracy websites?
Find a genuine publication that says how H (in preference to H2) is produced.
Trouble is, you say suppressed, we say inoperable, impossible, unscientific, quackery - and you have no actual proof for what you claim.
How many years did you study chemistry at University level?
@HHONOW - when I was at school our English teacher insisted transitional words like however should not be used at the end of sentences for reasons of impact.
You try to make yourself sound knowledgeable about chemistry & such but you don't understand the language of the sciences, then you have the gall to say you have mastered the English language.
Science based on ignorant backyard operators isn't science.
Found this today:
"Self taught people often have a fool for a teacher." Adam Peenum
I do not have to defend my educational background to you. Placing however at the end of a sentence does indeed have an impact. Thanks for noticing.
Some of the best inventions were done by your so called ignorant backyard scientists. Why don't we close our dialogue here. I find you are getting unnecessarily rude.
@HHONOW - Oh wow, you didn't respond to the church suppression thing which has so much evidence, gee I wonder why? Yet the conspiracy of suppression regarding free energy - non existent. Irrational to the end.
Also what I said was "Science based on ignorant backyard operators isn't science." No mention of ignorant scientists.
When you find a free energy machine that works make that the next time you contact me. LOL
@HHONOW - not my problem if you can't read a post in its entirety. Back to basics. You are convinced free energy is possible. Yet there are no free energy machines. You were convinced these videos demonstrated such despite people saying they were obvious fakes. You don't understand enough science to question these things & you blindly believe what free energy clowns tell you. Sight unseen too.
You were wrong about the Wright brothers remember? My research says so.
@HHONOW - and as for your comments & views about HHO - it's no wonder that stuff is suppressed. It simply doesn't work as you claim so suppressing it would be the best thing to happen, might stop a lot of otherwise rational people thinking energy from nowhere is possible.
Why don't you and your believers all get together and suppress those evil moguls so we can get free energy for all. Lets repeal those stupid & suppressing laws of physics too because they stop magnets powering the world.
What experimentation and testing have you done with HHO???? Oh, that's right, you can't; because the entire procedure defies (in your mind) the current laws of physics. LOL
@HHONOW - you realise you could shoot me down in flames if you could find ONE article with facts (not that anecdotal rubbish where claims are made without reference to proper independent testing) to back your free energy views.
So while you're banging away at your keyboard telling us all to believe the impossible, many scientists of the world are trying to make more efficient solar cells, batteries, motors and such without any of them thinking "free energy is the goal". That is the reality.
@HHONOW - if you took the time to study the history of flight as extensively has I have you'd know the Wright Bros were not even the first. Numerous folk were trying and it was accepted widely that it was just a matter of time.
Because you lack the ability to do proper research (just relying on the occasional website for information obviously) instead of reading several books on the subject written by creditable authors you will never know the truth. Stop being so lazy.
You force me to respond due to your ignorance of the facts. There is real suppression going on with what you coin as Free Energy. By Free Energy, you mean perpetual motion. I do not believe that these devices are perpetual. They are however tapping into a yet unknown energy source. You are laughing at this point. Go ahead and laugh. It's a fact that The Wright Brothers were viewed as Nuts by most main stream scientists. Galileo was persecuted for his beliefs. Pound Away : )God Bless
@HHONOW - go & look at the Steorn Orbo videos. There are plenty. That man is attracting huge numbers of investors. He has public demonstrations of his device "working". Who is suppressing him? I'll bet you, here & now his device won't work & it will all be exposed as a scam. BUT - the free-energy websites will all say it did work but was suppressed. Just like all the other mythical free energy devices.
Are you so obtuse you can't see a pattern with all this?
Yes, there is a pattern. The pattern is of Suppression. Open your eyes man. It is so obvious. Let's not forget Galileo. Look him up. Had it not been for him, we would still be of the mind that the earth is at the center of the universe.
@HHONOW - if it hadn't been Galileo it would have been someone else. Suppression of Galileo was by the church, renowned for its head in the sand attitude. That same church is still suppressing things because they say the bible is the word of God. Churches are telling people evolution didn't happen. Creationism is the biggest form of suppression of science and reason in the world.
Suppression is touted loud and strong about free energy but is lacking evidence.
Evidence is being suppressed. Patents are bought and shelved. The Bible is the Word of God. The Ten Commandments are The Laws of God.
You Do Not Understand The Bible. That's very obvious here. You do not want to go down this road now do you??
It's the timeline that is not fully understood in The Bible. You do agree that it is the scientific fringe groups or individuals which bring forth new discoveries right?? Let's see if we agree on something here. LOL
@LiamXaoh it figures that you think the bible is rubbish, All the quotes you have listed show me one thing, you have no clue as to what you are talking. God unlike man doesnt need to "proofread" it is true God was both satisfied with His works ....thne became dissatisfied with His creation due to the choices it made.
second quote
was the rainbow promise. meaning He will noit destoiy us with another flood
@LiamXaoh next garbage artheistic view you spouted was about abraham marrying his sister. Your second part is about the levites priesthood denouncing it.
So abraham didnt follow the law of the levites about about incest...........well thats see here..... abraham was long dead before the levite priesthood came around. Perhaps you might not understand this but incest was practiced in royal blood lines in england till very recently.
@HHONOW - if the evidence is suppressed how do you know there is evidence? LOL
Seeing as most patents expire after 17 or 20 years (depending on when first patented) then anyone can build and sell a design when that period has expired. So "shelving patents" is another of those pathetic conspiracy arguments that doesn't hold water.
But you keep sprouting your unresearched bullshit and you might get it right some day, as they say never let facts get in the way of a good story.
@LiamXaoh you are obviously stupid but I will attempt to educate you. you have thousands of people who percieve things differently.............Ok start a word of mouth experiment. The red car turned black on the green light and dropped a blue package out the window.........tell that to 20 people and ask them to tell 20 people...then they tell 20 people............THEN you ask all of those people what color the car was. Perception with word of mouth will change the color of the car
@LiamXaoh you're right you're a worthless conversationalist. Your input is all brackish and bias at best. I shouldn't waste my breathe on someone as stupid as you, So in fact I'm done with you, my hands are washed of your atheistic off topic bashing, respond if you must but there will be no further communication on my side.... GOOD riddance.
@stormpoet76 - ok then. I realised long ago one cannot debate with a fundamentalist. You are all blind faith and dogma.
As for off topic blasting - if you took the trouble to read the posts I was responding to you'd realise you are wrong - I don't start off topic conversations. And I'm sure if I was to tout the wonder of god in my responses you'd keep your nose out of it all.
Have a nice day and watch out your made up god doesn't punish you for communicating with an atheist. LOL
@HHONOW - I am not suggesting a car cannot run on the H2 and O2 generated from the car's own system. However based on the numbers provided even you must be able to see it is not efficient and therefore not viable.
The best analogy I can think of is: would a battery powered car get increased distance from its batteries if small generators with rubber drive wheels were fitted to run of the car tires?
@HHONOW - upper case means you are now shouting at me. Boy, you get ruder every time you respond. Judging by your response you seemed really threatened by people who know science.
I won't be around when this video and similar ones are proven to be true for the simple fact they are faked.
In the real world of science things mostly cannot be directly disproved. Investigations are done and if no robust supporting evidence is found then the claim is likely to be false. Thinks about that.
Yes....Yes Water which was separated into its constituents....Hydrogen and Oxygen. Stop twisting my words to make yourself sound intelligent. You know exactly what I mean. You will never be able to prove or disprove a video, so here it boils down again to belief...LOL Do You Believe??/ If you believe....You will attempt to replicate.
@HHONOW - regarding the HHO water debate. The point is you have to use the correct language or folks will know you are a fool.
When one has certain knowledge it is not necessary to do much more than pass on that knowledge. Do I have to build a battery, or motor or solar panel to prove they work? It is not a case of belief. I have seen working versions over the years & know they work.
Magnetic motors, never seen one work. Seen lots of videos and read lots of info. Can't buy them. Strange.
zzytrewq......Nuances in language will not impart foolishness to anyone. You're still trying to twist things around for your benefit. Stop it. You need to loosen you rigid stance, or you will never be free.
@HHONOW It's the same principle that makes the magnet spin, only an induction coil with a switch under the table is what makes the wheel speen so suddenly, if this was any authentic, it would start gradualy increasing the speed per time.
There were many energy devices which seemed to violate the laws of physics. The truth is there are other sources of energy which can be tapped into. The first internal combustion engine did indeed run on water which was split by electrolysis by Francois Issac De Rivaz. Look this up. Meyer did achieve this also. Did we ever learn where the electricity comes from when operating a generator.........Ever question that? Just call me a hillbilly scientist. LOL
It does not matter what I say, your mind is made up. I say go ahead and try it my friend and discover for yourself. Learning new things broadens our knowledge. Hopefully you will try it and come to some realizations of how things actually work.
@valveman12 It does matter...for the sake of determining the truth. I did try it and my first attempt was not a success. I am broad minded enough to realize that maybe it is something I missed. Some detail which may not be mentioned. I will not let my ego get in the way thinking that since I tried it once, and it didn't work the first time, the video must be a hoax.....do you realize how self righteous that sounds??
If any of you doubt my assertion....please research the information....it is all there.
There is plenty of motive for suppressing "Free" energy. The few whom control the world's economy....yes I believe this, will do all in their power to prevent alternative energies which would dismount them from their position, from becoming main stream.
Surely, the magnet in his hand can change the speed of the motor as the magnet does act on the smaller magnets from disc, but this means nothing regarding the main idea.
He was clever enough not to show the back of the assembly while it was in function, he just showed it *before*.
A magician can do a better job than this guy amature trick. They show all possible angles like in levitating object. This dude wont even let us see what is behind the disc. I got a video of myself flying and teleport does it make it real?
SamsportParkour 5 months ago
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mailsliwka 6 months ago
i cant get ir to work!!!! :( i must be missing something
imposible2play 7 months ago
where can i buy those magnets?
TheSazies 7 months ago in playlist dont know
I can't believe so many people look at this stuff and say it doesn't work, you ARE transferring energy and following the laws of thermodynamics. Magnets lose magnetism over time when the force is used. Simple no brainer. Those who say it doesn't work, go back to high school.
therogerwilco 7 months ago
It is fakeeeeeeeeeee!
FAKE!!!!
Radovedn 8 months ago
do you hear hair drier back?
It is always on. There are two person. On the begining of video a second person is holding a cammera. When he move magnet to wheel, the secon person tun hair drier into the wheel and wheel spin up. When he goes with magnet aside of wheel, wheel spin up because magnet in his hand doesn't brakes any more.
Radovedn 8 months ago
Ich mag keine LÜGNER !!!!
Ihr macht uns das Leben immer schwerer.
Rocketclub1 8 months ago
''Have fun with it!!!'' ?! You've just solved the world's energy problems! :D
wyrrox 9 months ago 3
He's discoverd free energy in a can of compressed air just off camera.
andydanziger 9 months ago
So what your saying by "its real" is that he has a huge electro-magnet under the table turning his motor/magnet rotor. LMAO charlatans and their shenanigans .
3lricofM3lnibon3 9 months ago
Hi Frank. You make this look so simple! And probably is, but I try with a bigger version and doesn't work!!! Does the magnets have an specifications or not? What type of magnets you used? Can Yo help please? Thanks man.
stdesignall 10 months ago
@stdesignall A bigger version will need bigger magnets presumably, much bigger magnets.
TheLahness 7 months ago
I can't believe that a Moron called Valveman actually bothered to build a prototype of this to prove its a fraud!!!
Really!
1BustedMyth 11 months ago
for all the comments on how this is bs you guys still live on a flat planet try it yourself & then speak don't speak before you try it and there is free energy thats what tesla came up with get off fossil fuel & make it on free energy the planet forms it own energy that we can tap into so why do you still want to use a fossil fuel that is unstable & hurts the planet? Marco Rodin see his design! So you go ahead & tell him & all the people that pay for his design that they are BS too...
420DEADGIRL 11 months ago 4
Lies!
Magnets lock up.
Doesn't work!
This guy should be water boarded.
Twice!
BenReece101 11 months ago
me and a small team are replicating this experiment to-the-letter this month. will be back. ;-)
jipidibipity 1 year ago
Mother fucker, you wasted 2:13 minutes of my life on this shit !
ValarMorgoth 1 year ago
@ValarMorgoth "Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to."
punknol 1 year ago
@punknol And some managed to escape from a mental hospital ...
ValarMorgoth 1 year ago
Permanent magnets are not a source of energy. Magnet wheels do not and have never worked. Conclusion: The demonstration is fraudulent. At about 1:57, a hidden power source is switched on causing the motor to turn and the light bulb to light.
scasired 1 year ago
@scasired what ever your retard everything is in plain site just another hater go man go i belive you magnet are the way to go so go man go
herbsterplace1 10 months ago
He he he... some guy made a video and we're all talking about it. We really want to believe! I want to believe. Still, I love to see what people come up with.
briankangaroo 1 year ago
if you did this device ...contact me please
antorise1 1 year ago
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MAGNETS CAN NOT BE CALLED OVERUNITY....there is not scientifically accepted way to measure the working output of a magnet there for no way to tell if its at 100%...this is because most of todays scientist are close minded over coached book smart idiots who couldnt hold a candle to the great minds of history...*deep breath* feels good to say that...would feel better if i could scream it in your faces...and i really wish people would stop reposting other poeoples videos..wheres the original
hardhatg69 1 year ago
@hardhatg69 Actually there is a way to measure the energy output of a magnet. The energy output is 0 because a magnetic field has no energy. It is a force but force and energy are not the same thing. Just as newton never found a way to make perpetual energy ith gravity neither will these people ever find a way to do so with magnets. For some very similar reasons too.
kurisu925 1 year ago
@kurisu925 ok..maybe my wording was off...but if you know anything about electricity, about how a transformer works or how alternating current is created you would understand that there is a valid basis for educated people looking into making energy with the magnetic force from a standard magnet...... even if magnets could only be used to make a friction free bearing(which i still havent seen) it would be a pretty big step in the engineering of mototrs and the like
hardhatg69 1 year ago
@hardhatg69 We are far closer to finding a friction free bearing using liquid helium. When cooled to near absolute zero liquid helium becomes what is called a super fluid. It has absolutely no friction to it and is currently the only material knowen to have 0 friction. Catch is you gotta keep it cooled to near absolute zero. Even with magnetic bearings you would still have some friction with the surrounding air between the magnets.
kurisu925 1 year ago
@kurisu925 very good
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fittingciobb 1 year ago
how could he have batteries connected to it and it doesn't start turning till the magnet gets closer to the motor? could be that lol
remurt1 1 year ago
it's clearly a fake simple behind the circular piece of plastic we have another two batteries one is connected to led and other one is connected to engine presented in the video so the engine move circular piece of plastic and other battery give energy to led very simple so now do you understand that law of termodynamics is umbreakable ?
talligalli 1 year ago
@talligalli another hater its real its real its real
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buchananfibbing 1 year ago
very nice but.....FAKE
Danutz13bv 1 year ago
@Danutz13bv
Agreed... I had some fun building one to test it for myself...
What I got was:
The magnet I was holding would get "stuck" between the north and south poles of two magnets on the cream cheese lid.
I even played with a version that had the magnets offset and one with all the poles facing out.
Complete waste of time if you're looking for results, fun if you just want to build something..
Have the Mythbusters done this one? If they had it would surely be busted.
JayFGrissom 1 year ago
u stupid people. listen carefully how he talked about the polarity of the magnets. it is not n-s-n-s. it is all out. so the magnet line will be pointing out perpendicular to the arc. not tangential to the arc.
wdiabc 1 year ago
Feel free to comment? Its FAKE! .
mindaugas49ccm 1 year ago
We had no problem making free energy motors where I am. If you do your homework,you can do it too. Make sure you are using the proper magnets people.
Janet6961 1 year ago
@Janet6961 Your so full of shit that if you where my toilet you would fail to flush properly.
kurisu925 1 year ago
@Janet6961 - pull the other one.
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
that is the most fake thing ive ever seen , magnets dont work like that
djscottdog1 1 year ago
the north should be on top or south???
MegaYash27 1 year ago
that pinecone call made me laugh so hard I cried :-)
buzzedo1 1 year ago
eso no te lo crees ni tu!!! ¿a quien vas a engañar?
polimorfomusic 1 year ago
In metacafe video sharing site like youtube has something special. They paid users if their videos can attain attention* ( game of marketing ) but they do not inspect the users's videos.
dan020350 1 year ago
you dont need professional expertise to know this doesn't work for real.
he has a coil under the table thats why he has it aligned like that. the magnet gives it the initial push needed to start spinning. hes probably using a reed switch or something similar to pulse it. theres probably a car battery under the table with the coil. this has to be so cause u can see the light is being lit from induction via the motor, not a battery.
Magneticitist 1 year ago
Seems unlikely but hey, I haven't built one so I don't really know.
gadzometer 1 year ago
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Come check out my machine. No magnets. Only gravity and friction
freddyboy420 1 year ago
@freddyboy420 my one is bigger no magnets , no gravity , no friction . its basicly a bucket of hot air that makes power and attracts the girls lol pml
djscottdog1 1 year ago
yeah i think he's got a electro magnet or coil under the table. the magnet just gives it the bump it needs to get started.
chazdaspazman 1 year ago
Yeah whatever... I am going to try it at home before I start putting up videos saying that this is a prank... If your not sure and can't be assed to do the research maybe you should shut the hell up because at the end of the day your opinion is not valid.
Good luck
You'll need it
jafalopo 1 year ago
this does work
bobbysocks1 1 year ago
Do this on a glass see through table then ill believe you.
TheAviator8 1 year ago
ridiculous, the effort he put into the contraption for a fake was not worth it, idiot.
MoltenMozzarella 1 year ago
clearly a fake!
magnissle 1 year ago
I doubt that he drilled a hole into his table but clearly it is fake. With the color of the wood in the table and lack of quality in the video I would say a thin enamel coated wire would be allmost impossible to notice with out close inspection. I havent seen one yet but I will look through it a few moe times. But with the quality of the video if one is there I might not see it.
kurisu925 1 year ago
Again: this does not work! I have tried it, although I knew it won't work.
Watch closely! When he brings the magnet close to the wheel to start the generator
the wheel turns a little-bit *backward* and then starts with full speed a forward
rotation. It acts as if it has a switch hidden somewhere. One would expect a gradual
acceleration of the disc, given the circumstances, thing which does not happen.
As such, I am quite positive that we are being fooled here!
xray4abc 1 year ago
this does work, i've guilt a similar model myself(with weaker magnets) and produced just under 2 volts. keep in mind, i used MUCH weaker magnets than used in this video. there are huge possibilities with this technology, don't assume it's fake because you don't understand the concept.
Everydayphriiq 1 year ago
obviously
cyberlord64 1 year ago
very thin wires running through the table and super glued to the back side of the matches. that must be how he did it. theres no way that configuration of mags could work!!
benjorgensen1 1 year ago
i wonder how many have tried it for themselves out of 30,000 people that viewed this video..
raydan18 1 year ago
Shut the fuck up about god, what the hell does this video have to do about god? Anyway, is this real? If so, couldn't this be made large scale for free energy?
sqhschief 1 year ago
@sqhschief - if you look at similar videos you'll see this is one of a few "pranks" made by free energy believers for some obscure reason. They are being dumb asses just to piss people off.
No such thing as free energy devices.
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
@sqhschief Free energy is impossible at least in the manner you are thinking because energy can not be created or destroyed. But we do have free energy in the sense that you dont have to pay for it. Unfortunatly there are a lot of con artists out there who prey on the ignorant. They pretend to "invent" an overunity machine and even put together a fake demonstration normally in the form of a video. I know of at least 3 such people who are living off of the donations for thier "research".
kurisu925 1 year ago
@kurisu925 I see.
sqhschief 1 year ago
@kurisu925 You are realy, realy stupid. You are talking about some phisical laws ("...because energy can not be created or destroyed....") but you don't know anything about magnets, magnet polarity etc. Read some book about this and then talk. People like you make me .... People like you pretend how smart is, but in reality you are living prove of stupidity and zero point talking. Shut up and study. THEONEAGAIN - good work. Go forward and leave this stupid morons.
stash970 1 year ago
@stash970 Sure I dont know shit about magnets right... That railgun that I got kicked out of my highschool science fair for couldn't possibly have required some knowledge of magnetic fields. "people like you pretend how smart is"? LEarn to speak some god damn english before you try to insult my intelligence please. I know more about magnetic fields than you do about the english laungage.
kurisu925 1 year ago
@kurisu925 Yes my "dear" friend. My english is not perfect, because is my fift language that I speak (Slovenian, Serbian, Croatian, German, English & Italian). But is stil good enough that you understand me. I am not pretend how smart I am. I just say that I have enough people like you, wich always want to have last word and always drop hardwork of somebody to nothing. About your knowledge of magnets you can just dream on.
Best regards,
Vasja S. S.
stash970 1 year ago
@stash970 The only one here whod does not understand magnetic fields is you. And as much as I would love to educate you on the subject... I don't think you are going to let go of the idiotic idea that the conventional laws of physics dont apply to them any way so it would just be a waste of my time. Good luck with your life as a sheep following every word that comes out of the mouths of free energy conmen.
kurisu925 1 year ago
@kurisu925 Ye, ye. Like I say. People like you always want to have last word and like you say is a waste of my time listen those empty words from your mouth. People like you still think that earth is center of universum. Right, my genius friend? But you know, like old latin said: HONESTA TURPITUDO EST PRO CAUSA BONA. I forgive you your blindless my friend. Be good and live long ;-)
stash970 1 year ago
@stash970 Check out this book "Secrets of Antigravity" By Paul A. LaViolette. In it he claims he has built magnet motors that power an antigravity machine he has also built.... closer inspection reveals that Paul is the president of The Starburst Foundation. Do Check out thier website. Be sure to google earth the adress they list at the bottom for mail in donations. That is Paul A. Laviolette's house.
kurisu925 1 year ago
@stash970 Also his company website looks like it was made with microsoft word and all of the projects listed in it that he is supposidly working on are plagiarized from the websites of other companies. The man is clearly a fraud just like every other free energy "expert" I have ever investigated. You call me blind and yet you bow down before conmen and outright thieves as if they where gods.
kurisu925 1 year ago
@kurisu925 Read some books & patents of Nikola Tesla. He's discowery free E in 1901 year. Just for information. And say thnx to this man because of him you have electricity in your home. Study man and some day you wil "see". Regards my friend.
stash970 1 year ago
@stash970 Yes I am quite aware of Nicola tessla. Apparently more so than you because if you actually understand tessla's work he did not beleive in what you call "free energy" by the way you mean overunity. Tessla blelieved he could use the earth's atmosphere like a battery using a large tessla coil to draw energy from it. This "battery" would be recharged by the same processes that generate thunderstorms. There is no overunity involved with that it is simply harvesting a renewable resource.
kurisu925 1 year ago
@kurisu925 If you know work of N.Tesla then you know that he belief in free E. When he discovery this E in 1901, he named this E Radiant E. Please read book Tesla Science where is everything wrote. Regards, V.S.S.
stash970 1 year ago
@stash970 Once more I will tell you that you know nothing about the work of tessla. For proof of this see my previous comment.
kurisu925 1 year ago
@kurisu925 I see that you don't know anything about Tesla. If you read book that I wrote to you. That you saw that Tesla not just belief in free E, but he discovery this E and give her a name RADIANT E. But people like you always want to have last word. Read this book and you'll see that we have a lot of free E all around us. Regards, V.S.S.
stash970 1 year ago
@stash970 You wanna know the truth about tessla. He was a genious beyond what most can comprehend and like many other geniuses before him in his later years his mind snapped under the weight of his own genius. Thats right nicolatessla whent a little crazy in his later years. That is why only his earlier work actually works. And that radiant energy you put in all caps and consistantly refuse to type more than just E when talking about energy came after he started going nuts.
kurisu925 1 year ago
@kurisu925 First of all. Lastname of Nikola Tesla has write Tesla with one "s" and not Tessla with two "ss" like you write. Second you are talking about he started going nuts. Things like this can say only people which they don't know anything about Nikola. Just for your information here is patent no. 685,957 - Apparatus for Utilising Radiant Energy and patent no. 685,958 - Method of Utilising Radiant Energy which are patented at 21st March 1901. This two no. are prove who is here nuts. Regards
stash970 1 year ago
@stash970 Don't get pissy over one typo if you yourself can barely speak at all. Also you have no understanding about how the patent office works at all do you. The patent office does not have to test and ensure that a device works to issue a patent for it. A patent means you own an idea not that it works. If I glued a pinecone to my ass and sent in a schematic of it calling it a time machine they would issue me a patent for it.
kurisu925 1 year ago
@kurisu925 Congratulation my friend! You are success to prove people, me and yourself that you don't have any idea about what are you talking. You are like a blind man who pretend that he see perfect. You are talking that you test a lot of apparatus but anyone don't work. So test apparatus from Tesla patent no. 685,957 For smart guy like you will be quiet simple to build and test this simple apparatus and then you see one big new world of free E which, OUUU MY GOD!!! It works. So simple and work
stash970 1 year ago
@stash970 once again I must ask you to please learn to speak fucking english before trying to insult my intelligence. With that said... I know your just talking out of your ass when you say that you made one and it worked because when I was younger and stupid as hell like you I fell for the same bull shit you are falling for now. And yes I remember quite clearly several times when I was dissapointed to find that patents I came across did not work. And yes I tested that very patent you mentioned.
kurisu925 1 year ago
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@kurisu925 you are very sad man, you know. I am dissapoointed on you. I think that you much better man but now I see that you just another lier who speak I try this, I try that but at the end I see that you are just one sad man, which are try to convince other how smart he is." And yes I tested that very patent you mentioned." -nothing else but ONE BIG LIER. You are very dissapont me. I think that you are man which wanna something to learn, but you wana nothing else but fight with people. SAD
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utopiasspeb 1 year ago
@kurisu925 Stop embarrasing yourself.
So u just decided to talk out of ur ass like a donky.
The only favor u can do for humanity is killing urself.
And i know uve thought about it , cause if u have some bit of truth in ur empty brain u would know thats the only way to go.
Ur a sickness to the planet
utopiasspeb 1 year ago
@utopiasspeb I am embarrasing myself am I? I am not the one who can not figure out that magnet B can not overcome the force of magnet C using the force of magnet A if magnets A and C are equal in strength. Magnet B will allways come to rest between magnet's A and C. Diagram below...
[s A n] [n B s] [s C n]
kurisu925 1 year ago
@utopiasspeb By the way if I am a sickness to the planet what does that make one so full of hate such as yourself?
kurisu925 1 year ago
@kurisu925 perhaps instead of being oblivios to everything everyone says, perhaps you should listen and work with them to find overunity. Your approach is self defeating. Tesla indeed believed in a renewable source of energy. you grab the energy out of the air and use it to power whatever you want. This renewable energy is almost endless, in the fact that is renews faster then can be used. So in the very essense it is unlimited. just like oil is a renewable energy source.it is just not clean
stormpoet76 1 year ago
@stormpoet76 A renewable energy source is not overunity because it is drawing it's power from an external source which is replenished by natural processes. That is what tessla believed could be done with the ionosphere using the same processes that generate thunderstorms. Overunity is where you create energy with no external energy source required which is physically impossible.
kurisu925 1 year ago
@kurisu925 perhaps you should change your definition of overunity then.
if energy is infinite due to cyclic renewing and lasts for an infinite amount of time hence never running out because mother earth is creating infinite cyclic energy according to the theory of overunity it meets and exceeds the requirements , everything else is semantics. so oil which is combustable energy and infinite/cyclic is indeed overunity. the problem is that it is not clean hence the search for a new source.
stormpoet76 1 year ago
@stormpoet76 Overunity is when you put in X energy and get more then X back out. It is being over 100% effecient. What you are talking about is using existing energy that has been gathered and stored by natural processes. With overunity lets say your machine was 110% efficient well connect the output to the input and you get infinite energy. Multiply your input times 1.1 an infinite number of times... That is what your output is. But this is impossible.
kurisu925 1 year ago
@kurisu925 thank you for the explanation, I already understood this concept though I think you do not understand what I am talking about. So I will try to explain it in another way.
x energy= infinite; using that energy will never run out because nature is perfectly cyclic and unity 100 percent when nature is used 10 percent the natural order of things comes in and equalizes things back up to 100 percent therefore if this is true it means we have a infinite supplt of energy.
stormpoet76 1 year ago
@stormpoet76 It is not an infinite amount of energy. There is a limited amount of energy in the cycle at any given moment in time. Also all natural processes consume more energy then they produce. When plants die and eventually become fossile fuels the energy that remains left behind stored in thier chemical make up Is far less then even just the energy they absorbed from the sun in a mere month let alone thier entire lives.
kurisu925 1 year ago
@kurisu925 that is one theory yes. pertaining to fossil fuels. but i still believe that you are missing my point about infinite energy.accoding to einstiens theory there is no new energy and energy doesnt get erased, it simply changed from one form to another there could never be overunity. This I agree with you in exactness. What the point I am explaining is that it is possible to make a self sustaining harness of energy to make it useful for a longer period of time. sorta like the capacitors..
stormpoet76 1 year ago
@stormpoet76 What you are saying still comes down to gathering energy from an external source and then storeing it. It is no different from drilling for oil and storeing it in barrels or setting up a solar panel to charge a battery.
kurisu925 1 year ago
@kurisu925 finally you understand what I'm talking about. renewable energy aka mother natures cyclic energy "batteries" ionosphere(lightning), fossil fuels, gravity,magnetism,solar,hydro,volcanic(thermal),wind,radiation. I think I'm missing a few but its late forgive me. The point is always how to harness the energy efficiently and effectively. Lightning comes to mind when thinking of overunity. Why do you think tesla was so taken with it?
stormpoet76 1 year ago
@stormpoet76 What you dont understand is the definition of overunity. Unity is what it is to be at 100% effeciency while overunity is any thing higher then 100% effeciency. When they talk about over unity they are infact talking about making a generator that manages to put out more energy then it consumes and power itself with it's own output. Natural processes require more energy in then what they put out they are not over 100% efficient at any stage. They usually draw thier energy from the sun
kurisu925 1 year ago
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stormpoet76 1 year ago
Your comment "Self taught people often have a fool for a teacher." Adam Peenum. I don't believe this to be true. I believe the fool is the one who takes what the teacher says to heart and never dose any thinking for them self. Then get upset when they realized that they spent money on something that might be a lie.
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LiamXaoh 1 year ago
I would like to hear comments on the Hamel Spinner.
Now, here's a device which screams for comments.
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW - the magnets in the middle of the outer ring only spin because they sit on a spherical base that causes the central piece to spin when moved across a surface by the repelling force of the outer ring. The central magnets only start to spin when the outer ring is moved. This device doesn't even approach free energy in any form.
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
LiamXaoh....Thanks for commenting. Since energy cannot be created nor destroyed, the concept of Free energy is confusing. Even devices which seem to violate the known laws of physics are drawing energy from somewhere.
A common misconception on the hamel device is that there is spinning motion. This is not the case. It's more of a wobbling. There is slow circular motion at the points of the cones, but most of the motion is wobble, and it is in a rhythm.
Did you attempt a replication?
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW - I don't know of any working devices that seem to be violating the known laws of physics. If they really work then the way energy is being transferred is known. If you know of an example please clarify.
Semantics with the spinning and wobbling. It runs off the axis rotation of the ball for a period to gain speed and then like any spinning top it wobbles until rotating on the axis when the outer ring is not being moved.
I understand the principles so I don't need to make one.
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
Examples of devices which seem to violate the known laws of physics: Herman Anderson's Water fueled Ford LTD, Stan Meyer's water fueled dune buggy, Charles Garrett's water fueled car(1932), etc. Do You Believe? The Hamel device DOES NOT rely on Axle rotation to convert energy. The wobble reestablishes the point of rotation in a predictable fashion. This point of rotation changes in sync with finding equilibrium. Are you referring to the ring, ball and magnet demo. on a flat table?
GB
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW - are you talking about water powered or powered by the mixture of oxygen a hydrogen gotten from electrolysis of water?
Please use correct terminology - "water powered" is a misnomer.
Don't see any laws of physics being broken if the fuel is hydrogen.
The Hamel ring, ball and magnet on a flat table works as I have described. I did not mention an axle. Look up the word axis.
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
Yes, more specifically powered by the mixture of hydrogen,oxygen,and ambient air. The hydrogen, and oxygen derived from electrolysis. The Alternator/Generator supplied all electrical energy needed to run the automobile. It is stated that it takes more energy to separate the Hydrogen/Oxygen from the water than the energy which results from it, however this was not the case. These systems produced the HHO mixture on the fly. I know the definition of Axis and Axle quite well.
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW Not correct. The energy released from oxidising hydrogen in the presence of oxygen is 285.8kJ/mole. As the entropy of the gases decreases by 48.7kJ/mole due to the combustion process the efficiency is (285.8-48.7)/285.8 x 100% = 83%. Similarly the production of the gases yields 237.1kJ/mole plus the energy required to maintain entropy. You'll find those numbers in every chemistry book that covers the subject.
Therefore not 100% efficient.
Now tell me every chemist is wrong.
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
Thanks, I am not referring to diatomic hydrogen, but monatomic hydrogen which when combusted yields an 1800 to 1 transformation. These inventors whose vehicles were running on this mixture were called frauds.
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW - where do you get this made up nonsense from? The bond energy in H2 to separate to H is published as 435.2kJ/mole. That is not 1800 times anything. Monatomic hydrogen is not an electrolysis by-product as hydrogen atoms in water go straight to H2. Monatomic hydrogen has only been observed at less that 1 deg. Kelvin (minus 273 deg. C) but then you'd know that. So now you're telling me HHO cars make H and store it at close to absolute zero!!!
For goodness sake go study chemistry.
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
Please do not insult my intelligence. I have studied chemistry. These processes have not been embraced by mainstream science for very obvious reasons. I suggest you dig a little deeper and take the blinders off The 1800 to 1 reaction is exactly what happens when the Hydrogen, Oxygen and Ambient air reverts back into water. The reaction when ignited is explosive, then immediately implosive. This is not made up nonsense at all.
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW - the previous information I have quoted is correct. If mainstream science doesn't embrace something then it is usually quackery.
Cite a reference to show where your numbers came from.
You know chemistry!? Then why say hydrogen and oxygen AND ambient air? All you need is hydrogen and oxygen to combine to produce water. You don't need air.
Unless you can provide supporting laboratory test information your figures will remain made up nonsense.
You don't know chemistry.
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
The information you quoted is not at issue here. What is, is the type of hydrogen being produced by the electrolysis process. Whether you believe it or not is not important. The fact that it was done, and suppressed is.
There is plenty of reason to suppress this technology....the primary reason is money.
I will not defend my scientific background with you as it is apparently pointless here.
There is suppression going on here.
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW - it was done and now is suppressed. You have got to be kidding. How come no publications mention the formation of H (and not H2) through electrolysis except those tits on free energy conspiracy websites?
Find a genuine publication that says how H (in preference to H2) is produced.
Trouble is, you say suppressed, we say inoperable, impossible, unscientific, quackery - and you have no actual proof for what you claim.
How many years did you study chemistry at University level?
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
SUPPRESSION. It is none of your business how much education I have. I think that I have mastered the English language however ! : )
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW - when I was at school our English teacher insisted transitional words like however should not be used at the end of sentences for reasons of impact.
You try to make yourself sound knowledgeable about chemistry & such but you don't understand the language of the sciences, then you have the gall to say you have mastered the English language.
Science based on ignorant backyard operators isn't science.
Found this today:
"Self taught people often have a fool for a teacher." Adam Peenum
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
I do not have to defend my educational background to you. Placing however at the end of a sentence does indeed have an impact. Thanks for noticing.
Some of the best inventions were done by your so called ignorant backyard scientists. Why don't we close our dialogue here. I find you are getting unnecessarily rude.
I wish you well.
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW - Oh wow, you didn't respond to the church suppression thing which has so much evidence, gee I wonder why? Yet the conspiracy of suppression regarding free energy - non existent. Irrational to the end.
Also what I said was "Science based on ignorant backyard operators isn't science." No mention of ignorant scientists.
When you find a free energy machine that works make that the next time you contact me. LOL
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
I had ended our dialogue here, but now feel it necessary to respond to your last attack.
You draw irrational conclusions.....I did not even see "the church suppression thing." as you so eloquently put it.
There is a real suppression of energy which would unseat the energy moguls of the present. You are very naive if you do not believe that.
How about if we make this the last time I contact you....LOL
Remember the Wright Brothers....
Still God Bless You
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW - not my problem if you can't read a post in its entirety. Back to basics. You are convinced free energy is possible. Yet there are no free energy machines. You were convinced these videos demonstrated such despite people saying they were obvious fakes. You don't understand enough science to question these things & you blindly believe what free energy clowns tell you. Sight unseen too.
You were wrong about the Wright brothers remember? My research says so.
Suppression? LOL
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
Your Research. LOL
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW - and as for your comments & views about HHO - it's no wonder that stuff is suppressed. It simply doesn't work as you claim so suppressing it would be the best thing to happen, might stop a lot of otherwise rational people thinking energy from nowhere is possible.
Why don't you and your believers all get together and suppress those evil moguls so we can get free energy for all. Lets repeal those stupid & suppressing laws of physics too because they stop magnets powering the world.
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
What experimentation and testing have you done with HHO???? Oh, that's right, you can't; because the entire procedure defies (in your mind) the current laws of physics. LOL
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW - there is no such thing as HHO. Oh that's right you haven't studied chemistry so you wouldn't know that.
Please go and talk to a qualified person about such matters as you are incapable of listening via this medium.. You sound foolish
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
@HHONOW - you realise you could shoot me down in flames if you could find ONE article with facts (not that anecdotal rubbish where claims are made without reference to proper independent testing) to back your free energy views.
So while you're banging away at your keyboard telling us all to believe the impossible, many scientists of the world are trying to make more efficient solar cells, batteries, motors and such without any of them thinking "free energy is the goal". That is the reality.
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
You shoot yourself down in flames each time you post.
Do you think that others here do not see your narrow minded views.
To think that you do not believe that the Wright Brothers were viewed as loonies before they proved that flight was possible. LOL
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW - if you took the time to study the history of flight as extensively has I have you'd know the Wright Bros were not even the first. Numerous folk were trying and it was accepted widely that it was just a matter of time.
Because you lack the ability to do proper research (just relying on the occasional website for information obviously) instead of reading several books on the subject written by creditable authors you will never know the truth. Stop being so lazy.
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
You force me to respond due to your ignorance of the facts. There is real suppression going on with what you coin as Free Energy. By Free Energy, you mean perpetual motion. I do not believe that these devices are perpetual. They are however tapping into a yet unknown energy source. You are laughing at this point. Go ahead and laugh. It's a fact that The Wright Brothers were viewed as Nuts by most main stream scientists. Galileo was persecuted for his beliefs. Pound Away : )God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW - go & look at the Steorn Orbo videos. There are plenty. That man is attracting huge numbers of investors. He has public demonstrations of his device "working". Who is suppressing him? I'll bet you, here & now his device won't work & it will all be exposed as a scam. BUT - the free-energy websites will all say it did work but was suppressed. Just like all the other mythical free energy devices.
Are you so obtuse you can't see a pattern with all this?
Magnets attract idiots.
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
Yes, there is a pattern. The pattern is of Suppression. Open your eyes man. It is so obvious. Let's not forget Galileo. Look him up. Had it not been for him, we would still be of the mind that the earth is at the center of the universe.
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW - if it hadn't been Galileo it would have been someone else. Suppression of Galileo was by the church, renowned for its head in the sand attitude. That same church is still suppressing things because they say the bible is the word of God. Churches are telling people evolution didn't happen. Creationism is the biggest form of suppression of science and reason in the world.
Suppression is touted loud and strong about free energy but is lacking evidence.
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
Evidence is being suppressed. Patents are bought and shelved. The Bible is the Word of God. The Ten Commandments are The Laws of God.
You Do Not Understand The Bible. That's very obvious here. You do not want to go down this road now do you??
It's the timeline that is not fully understood in The Bible. You do agree that it is the scientific fringe groups or individuals which bring forth new discoveries right?? Let's see if we agree on something here. LOL
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW- Pretty stupid god if he doesn't proof read:
God is satisfied with his works: Gen 1:31
God is dissatisfied with his works: Gen 6:6
Because of man's wickedness God destroys him: Gen 6:5,7
Because of man's wickedness God will not destroy him: Gen 8:21
Circumcision instituted: Gen 17:10
Circumcision condemned: Gal 5:2
Marriage or cohabitation with a sister denounced: Deut 27:22/ Lev 20:17
Abraham married his sister and God blessed the union: Gen 20:11,12 & 17:16
There are more LOL
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
@LiamXaoh it figures that you think the bible is rubbish, All the quotes you have listed show me one thing, you have no clue as to what you are talking. God unlike man doesnt need to "proofread" it is true God was both satisfied with His works ....thne became dissatisfied with His creation due to the choices it made.
second quote
was the rainbow promise. meaning He will noit destoiy us with another flood
stormpoet76 1 year ago
@LiamXaoh next garbage artheistic view you spouted was about abraham marrying his sister. Your second part is about the levites priesthood denouncing it.
So abraham didnt follow the law of the levites about about incest...........well thats see here..... abraham was long dead before the levite priesthood came around. Perhaps you might not understand this but incest was practiced in royal blood lines in england till very recently.
stormpoet76 1 year ago
@HHONOW - if the evidence is suppressed how do you know there is evidence? LOL
Seeing as most patents expire after 17 or 20 years (depending on when first patented) then anyone can build and sell a design when that period has expired. So "shelving patents" is another of those pathetic conspiracy arguments that doesn't hold water.
But you keep sprouting your unresearched bullshit and you might get it right some day, as they say never let facts get in the way of a good story.
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
@HHONOW - God did a pretty poor job of coordinating the authors to agree on the facts in spreading His word; LOL
The father of Joseph, Mary's husband was Jacob: Matt 1:16
The father of Mary's husband was Heli: Luke 3:23
Man was created after the other animals: Gen 1:25,26,27
Man was created before the other animals: Gen 2:18,19
Christ was crucified at the 3rd hour: Mark 15:25
Christ was not crucified until the 6th hour: John 19:14,15
Damn those myths! Made up stuff is hard to get right.
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
@LiamXaoh you are obviously stupid but I will attempt to educate you. you have thousands of people who percieve things differently.............Ok start a word of mouth experiment. The red car turned black on the green light and dropped a blue package out the window.........tell that to 20 people and ask them to tell 20 people...then they tell 20 people............THEN you ask all of those people what color the car was. Perception with word of mouth will change the color of the car
stormpoet76 1 year ago
@LiamXaoh furthermore Family structure is still to this day inaccurate and we have Huge databases JUST for heritage
stormpoet76 1 year ago
@stormpoet76 - I'm not clear as to why you are responding to me. I think you may have mistaken me for someone who actually cares.
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
@LiamXaoh you're right you're a worthless conversationalist. Your input is all brackish and bias at best. I shouldn't waste my breathe on someone as stupid as you, So in fact I'm done with you, my hands are washed of your atheistic off topic bashing, respond if you must but there will be no further communication on my side.... GOOD riddance.
stormpoet76 1 year ago
@stormpoet76 - ok then. I realised long ago one cannot debate with a fundamentalist. You are all blind faith and dogma.
As for off topic blasting - if you took the trouble to read the posts I was responding to you'd realise you are wrong - I don't start off topic conversations. And I'm sure if I was to tout the wonder of god in my responses you'd keep your nose out of it all.
Have a nice day and watch out your made up god doesn't punish you for communicating with an atheist. LOL
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
@HHONOW ?????????????????????????
bronzinah 1 year ago
@HHONOW - I am not suggesting a car cannot run on the H2 and O2 generated from the car's own system. However based on the numbers provided even you must be able to see it is not efficient and therefore not viable.
The best analogy I can think of is: would a battery powered car get increased distance from its batteries if small generators with rubber drive wheels were fitted to run of the car tires?
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
Here's another video which I can't see how it could have been faked. Just add the youtube header to the front of this partal link. Enjoy:
watch?v=u5lXNpOnurw
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW
Music rather than sound of actual device - mmm trying to hide something
Use of air jet (that's why sound is off) to spin rotor.
Impossible because no one has invented an air jet, because it defies the Laws of Believers.
zzytrewq 1 year ago
zzytrewq......WHY WOULD THIS BE SUCH A THREAT TO YOU IF THIS IS REAL???
WISH I COULD BE THERE WHEN YOU ARE PROVEN COMPLETELY WRONG.......BUT THEN, YOU WOULD STILL NOT BELIEVE IT, EVEN IF IT FELL RIGHT ON YOUR HEAD. LOL
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW - upper case means you are now shouting at me. Boy, you get ruder every time you respond. Judging by your response you seemed really threatened by people who know science.
I won't be around when this video and similar ones are proven to be true for the simple fact they are faked.
In the real world of science things mostly cannot be directly disproved. Investigations are done and if no robust supporting evidence is found then the claim is likely to be false. Thinks about that.
zzytrewq 1 year ago
zzytrewq.....Upper case was for emphasis.
Yes....Yes Water which was separated into its constituents....Hydrogen and Oxygen. Stop twisting my words to make yourself sound intelligent. You know exactly what I mean. You will never be able to prove or disprove a video, so here it boils down again to belief...LOL Do You Believe??/ If you believe....You will attempt to replicate.
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW - regarding the HHO water debate. The point is you have to use the correct language or folks will know you are a fool.
When one has certain knowledge it is not necessary to do much more than pass on that knowledge. Do I have to build a battery, or motor or solar panel to prove they work? It is not a case of belief. I have seen working versions over the years & know they work.
Magnetic motors, never seen one work. Seen lots of videos and read lots of info. Can't buy them. Strange.
zzytrewq 1 year ago
zzytrewq......Nuances in language will not impart foolishness to anyone. You're still trying to twist things around for your benefit. Stop it. You need to loosen you rigid stance, or you will never be free.
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW It was faked using an induction coil under the table
iv81 1 year ago
iv81........What makes you say this with such certainty? I would love to see a video of that process. Please explain this further.
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
@HHONOW It's the same principle that makes the magnet spin, only an induction coil with a switch under the table is what makes the wheel speen so suddenly, if this was any authentic, it would start gradualy increasing the speed per time.
iv81 1 year ago
There were many energy devices which seemed to violate the laws of physics. The truth is there are other sources of energy which can be tapped into. The first internal combustion engine did indeed run on water which was split by electrolysis by Francois Issac De Rivaz. Look this up. Meyer did achieve this also. Did we ever learn where the electricity comes from when operating a generator.........Ever question that? Just call me a hillbilly scientist. LOL
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
Here's a much older video from 2005 showing the same technique.
Valveman12......I guess this is fake too??
All Fake Huh?? Right.......
attach the youtube header to front of this link; watch?v=u5lXNpOnurw&NR=1
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
It does not matter what I say, your mind is made up. I say go ahead and try it my friend and discover for yourself. Learning new things broadens our knowledge. Hopefully you will try it and come to some realizations of how things actually work.
Live long and prosper
valveman12 1 year ago
@valveman12 It does matter...for the sake of determining the truth. I did try it and my first attempt was not a success. I am broad minded enough to realize that maybe it is something I missed. Some detail which may not be mentioned. I will not let my ego get in the way thinking that since I tried it once, and it didn't work the first time, the video must be a hoax.....do you realize how self righteous that sounds??
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
If any of you doubt my assertion....please research the information....it is all there.
There is plenty of motive for suppressing "Free" energy. The few whom control the world's economy....yes I believe this, will do all in their power to prevent alternative energies which would dismount them from their position, from becoming main stream.
It's all about GREED.
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
Here's a neat video that I think everyone will enjoy. Just add the you tube header to the front of this link:
watch?v=HfDA7CCKYq0&feature=re lated
Enjoy,
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
I have yet to make this work. So it's bullshit. I am looking for this person who created this video. Anyone with knowledge of him please share.
24hosting 1 year ago
@24hosting What are you going to do?? Send the energy police to go out and arrest him?? LOL
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
@24hosting Ever think that maybe you missed something?? And this may be the reason why your model did not work??
Or, have you crowned yourself perfect??
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
Well the Physics "You Tube" Police.
24hosting 1 year ago
@24hosting LOL......It's all Healthy debate.
God Bless
HHONOW 1 year ago
Yup, fake video
kibora 1 year ago
This guy is cheating!
The start of the motor was too fast to be
from the magnet he was holding.
Surely, the magnet in his hand can change the speed of the motor as the magnet does act on the smaller magnets from disc, but this means nothing regarding the main idea.
He was clever enough not to show the back of the assembly while it was in function, he just showed it *before*.
Shame on him!
xray4abc 1 year ago