Even if Ron Paul is the best candidate, he won't get elected. Even if it looks differently on the comment sections of youtube videos, he simply doesn't have enough supporters.
He simply wants states to make the decisions and not federal government. "Lowering taxes will keep wealthy families rich forever" - this is simply an absurd statement considering how the ultra wealthy usually pay very little in taxes to begin with and the poor are most devastated by taxes. A person making 30K a year would benefit greatly if he/she could keep 100% of their income. Not to mention, government is almost always irresponsible with money and have had numerous failed programs.
I support Ron Paul on some issues but many of his issues I think are dangerous for America. For example he wants to get rid of the minimum wage which means businesses can pay someone a third-world wage if they wanted to. I don't like how many Ron Paul supporters seem to support EVERYTHING the guy says....
Sadly Ron Paul is from Texas and he can't say he supports evolution because to texans that means he hates god or something stupid. He sadly has to play political word games to be in office. If he said tomorrow that he was pro choice and believed in evolution he would be run out of the republican party and texas. He's not perfect, but he's the closest to being what I want for president that I have to vote for right now. Ron Paul 2012
@drewnut Maybe I'm not understanding, but it sounds to me like you're claiming that he believes in evolution and is pro choice but is lying about it to better his chances at becoming president. Let me ask, do you have ANY evidence of that?
@QcatDoesGames hard to have direct evidence of another persons beliefs but if you watch /watch?v=JSW2-Ppfewk Ron Paul works really hard to avoid answering the question regarding evolution. He doesn't take a side because that could split his supporters. As a medical doctor, he has observed bacteria and viruses evolve. Creationist supporters of Ron Paul in texas don't want to hear a science lesson. They've demonized the word so you should avoid answering the question.
@QcatDoesGames my wording may have been poor for Ron Paul on abortion. watch?v=FRVnX_EGyAY&feature=related His occupation was to deliver babies so although I am a gradualist on abortion, I can still support ron paul even though we disagree on the issue. I have great respect for his beliefs because they are based on his life experiences and not solely on an old book.
@drewnut The abortion link isn't working for me, so I won't address that for now.
I feel like he was fairly direct. He said he doesn't accept evolution because it's a theory, which demonstrates to me that he doesn't understand what a scientific theory is. He then goes on to say that he believes in a creator, which seems to me like a belief based "solely on an old book."
I don't think evolutionary stance matters too much as a president. But I'm not seeing any evidence that he agrees with it.
@QcatDoesGames you can believe in a creator without an old book which is what some founding fathers did by being deists but ron paul is a christian. Ron Paul said how life originated is an interesting discussion. 39% of americans are creationists and they are more likely to vote because they are older so you must avoid associating yourself with the term evolution in texas. /watch?v=FRVnX_EGyAY&feature=related
@drewnut I'm well aware of deism. RP is a Christian, so his belief in god most likely stems from the bible.
I think you're missing my point. Paul directly said that he DOES NOT accept evolution. I'm not arguing that claiming he did believe in evolution would be good for his campaign. I'm saying that if you're going to assert that he does accept evolution and is lying about it, you need actual evidence. Otherwise it's just a meaningless assertion which no rational person should take seriously.
@QcatDoesGames I guess my point is that there are two definitions for evolution. One scientific and one political. RP said that how life came to be is an interesting discussion and neither side knows the complete truth.
@QcatDoesGames I would just like to argue that as a doctor, he knows living organisms change over time slowly through reproduction and I honestly have no direct proof of his beliefs but I think its unfair to criticize one of our best choices for president because he must conform to the political norms enforced on him by the republican party on the issue of evolution
@drewnut There are PLENTY of doctors who don't accept evolution, so the fact that he was a doctor is irrelevant. As I already said, I don't think evolutionary stance matters much as a president, so I'm not sure why you're saying I'm criticizing him. You pretty much have admitted that the notion that RP accepts evolution is just a guess. And that's fine. There's nothing wrong with considering all of the possibilities. Just don't mislead people by presenting it as fact.
wRong the retard Paul wants a Post Vicil War America to be reborn! An Era were blacks were considered second class citizens and Corporations had to worry about ZERO Government regulations so that they can continue their shady practices! FUCK YOU WRONG PAUL!
Well no it doesn't prove that Ron Paul supporters are homophobic it just proves that Ron Paul supporters can't refute anything that's thrown to them and just resorts to namecalling.
Separation of powers?!!!! Are you seriously saying that in the same sentence as you defend Roe v. Wade?!!! And you criticize Ron Paul's critical thinking skills. I know your kind like to pretend there is no 10th Amendment, but it is there, and abortion should be up to the states!
Your point on Ron Paul being pro-life is weak but the very foundation of his ideology is the government rule is to protect life, liberty, and private property. Now you can say that there is liberty taking away from the woman but there is certainly life being taken away from the fetus as well. And I think "life" is of higher priority in his eyes and many others. To say that is not a pro-liberty position is being fallacious.
@matt4787 Well, it's a position on which reasonable people disagree, and for him to decide HE has the right answer AND is happy to let himself or others that think like him in states decide for them seems anti-liberty to me.
@uralldiseasedXD Yes he was pro-life. Yes, he was likely smarter than me too. There are religious people that are smarter than me too, but it doesn't mean god exists.
@Zaunstar Doesn't everyone with a political stance on something think they have the right answer? Besides if he was so confidant with this "right" decision wouldn't he dictate it at the federal level and not through 50 states separate laws. He is taking a constitutional position when it comes to states having the decision. Not a pro-life position.
@9886635574 i think it's not that informative. it seems very biased for me, even if he tries to think critically. i wish zaunstar would think more steps forward.
Nobody has the appetite for another war ? All the Republican candidates except Paul are desperate for war with Iran.Iran is not iraq and could start WW3
You know what? I was willing to accept that you had actually given some thought to your points, though, having a few years on you, I respectfully disagree, but your closing line was just disrespectful, and shows you for the troll you are.
@midhodhinn I may be older than you think. If you're going to take that very harmless G-rated joke that seriously, then my guess is that this is the only video of mine that you have seen. I would suggest you need a little more humor in your life, not less. *:-)
@chokitpi Except that there are tons of people who hate ron paul now because of all the newsletter shit that has come out. The fact that you're calling him a contrarian demonstrates that you don't know what that word actually means.
Oh, and you don't have to bother defending him so hard anymore because it's clearly over at this point...Again.
@kromeclutch No one is contending that the newsletters (plural) were fake. The contention is is that the newsletters weren't written by him and/or went out without his knowledge. That excuse is still extremely problematic.
You are a complete dumbass for thinking that they were fake. You're also a complete dumbass for asserting that only fringe websites have reported on the newspapers when just about EVERY publication has reported on them.
@xxFortunadoxx FOOL Paul bots live in an alternate dimension where reality does not exist and DR. Ron Paul (they ALWAYS have to remind you he is a doctor) is their almighty ruler waving the liberty wand
oh private business banning a minority and the minority isn't happy about the racism? wave the liberty wand
@alex134219 Don't worry. When he continues to lose his already dwindling support in the primary, he will fade back into the shadows and will only be mentioned on libertarian ayn rand forums where he can fucking stay.
@KammeratGak Actually, looking at the political map, he's already dead at this point. It is very unlikely that anyone but Romney will dominate in Nevada which Ron Paul currently holds a grand 9% of the vote.
The next primary after that is Maine where Romney secured over 50% of the vote back in 2008 with McCain running.
So this means I finally get to laugh at all the paultards because of how wrong they were after all the "the federal reserve is unconstitutional" debates they put me through.
@chokitpi Yes, I couldn't POSSIBLY actually believe Ron Paul is not a good presidential candidate, right? Clearly most people agree with me on this. I don't think you understand what "contrarian" means.
@Zaunstar I might actually believe that if they were YOUR beliefs. I have only one question you should answer here and that is what is your opinion on the NDAA and of Ben Bernanke and Obama's friendship? You need to do some homework Tom Arnold Jr.
@chokitpi NDAA should not have been passed in that form. Obama signed it because he felt he had to politically, and then made a signing statement which is nonsense when any president does it. Friends with Bernanke? I think he's probably friends with thousands of people. Not sure why I should care, other than that Paul supporters think the Fed is their version of the Illuminati.
@Zaunstar Obama’s use of signing statements has clearly shown his willingness to continue the George W. Bush legacy not only of torture and illegal detainment. Such signing statements put in place a precedent for future presidents to follow or expand upon. Further, Barack Obama has continued to backslide on his campaign promise not to use signing statements and executive orders to circumnavigate legislation signed into law. This is duplicitous and I truly pity you for not seeing it...
@chokitpi Signing statements ARE wrong. I just TOLD you it was wrong in the last comment, and now you "pity" me for not seeing it when I agree with you. Please read what I wrote already.
@Zaunstar Okay well I apologize, pity retracted. But you did seem to try to justify it as part of the Obama political strategy.. When you say 'in that form', does that mean you think the NDAA should have been passed, if only altered?.. Because there is really nothing acceptable about the entirety of the bill. Do you know who runs the Federal Reserve and what it is? I think if you understood that then you may understand why Libertarians(not just Paul supporters)think it is pretty evil.
@chokitpi The parts of NDAA related to civil liberties and those "assassinations" should have been altered at least. I have not read the entire bill, but don't doubt there are other bits in there I disagree with. As for the Fed, I'm not really into that. It's been around in good times and in bad for decades, and it's only recently with Ron Paul blaming it for things that it's on the map politically at all. I think going back to the gold standard would be a disaster.
@Zaunstar The crisis of 1913 generated the establishment of the Fed. Which was in turn caused by the panic of 1907 when the Banking establishments, with a bunch of help from J.P. Morgan, tried to buy out the entire copper industry.. If you study your history you will not be condemned to repeat it.. The Fed is a serious issue.
Ok, you made some really good points in this video Zaun, and I kind of hate you for it. Ron Paul was my escape route. After becoming disillusioned by Obama, I thought I'd have someone else to choose from. Perhaps somebody better. Now I have the option of Ron Paul (anti-drugwar but pro-life/pro-creationism/pro-wealthly) and Obama (not a terrible president but weak/promise-breaking/ball-less). So WTF is my choice? Can't I have ONE election with two GOOD candidates?? I feel so hopeless!
@potatocats Damnit that's just not acceptable! I used to have the same "fuck it" view of voting for shitty candidates, and then Bush Jr happened. Twice. Now I care. It's gotten to the point where even I'M thinking of running for president. I mean, every candidate is either a morally corrupt asshat or a sissy bitch. Is it too much to ask for a well-rounded candidate? If Zaunstar ran, I'd probably vote for him. But most of us are too lazy or dont think we stand enough of a chance.
@GashPlague There are no perfect candidates or perfect answers. Keep an eye on politics and policy. DO stay informed and as active as you can stand being, but remember to also learn how to navigate life for yourself as best you can under the "rules of the game". Learn them, play by them, and succeed.
@Zaunstar Yeah, but is it too much to ask for a candidate with, oh-say... HALF the policies that I agree with? I feel like there's no politicians out there that share my point of view. Or anything close to it. I do try to stay informed, but that just brings me closer to the realization that there's nobody I want to vote for. It feels like to only way to get America back on track is to run for president myself and I just don't have the resources or know-how to do that.
OK I m not american but even I m sick with this shit, WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!!
This ridicouls antagonisation, I mean "Dr Paul is against social safety nets there for he wants the poor to starve in the streets"WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?
Do you allways assume that the person on the other side is either a complete fucking moron or a just evil
I think the court is actually part of the government. If the evil corporations win unfairly in the court, what is the solution? Another president? If you need a watcher for the watcher there is something wrong with the judicial system I would say. I'm not a Ron Paul supporter.
I think a lot of Ron Paul supporters on the net are people like me who are not even American and don't care if he screws up America, as long as he gets them to stop invading other countries.
His environmental and healthcare policies are a joke, but his drug and foreign policies are great. I still think he is the best option the Republican party has though. Not for getting elected, but for putting up a candidate who is worthy of at least being in office.
He doesn't "change his tune on liberty". Your opinions sounds like they are coming from Obama's point of view. He would over turn Roe vs. Wade to protect life. Unborn children get legal consideration in the eyes of the law why not equal protection under the law. Except in cases of rape or medical danger for the mother. Don't want kids? Have safe sex or don't have it.
@reddeath595 ...and then if safe sex fails, then you're stuck? The woman then must decide based one what... the state thinks? What a deity of your choice, but NOT hers thinks?
Great Vid Zaunstar! I'm so glad you mentioned about Paul's Anti Evolution stance, because I agree with you. All my friends say "That shouldn't effect his presidency". And I always try to come up with a well articulated reason as to why I want to dispute that, and your words of "It being a symptom of a greater problem...etc" was PERFECTLY said. Again, great Vid
I'm not an american, but out of all the candidates, i would want him in the white house. I'm an atheist but hell will freeze over before we see an atheist in the whitehouse. So i have some issues with him but he still beats obama imo, since he has turned out to be a twofaced asshole. NDAA anyone!? You need to accept that you can't have everything. And he makes a hell of a lot of sense than the rest of the republicans.
Are you an idiot? you are so wrong about many things....first of all how is abolishing abortion a denial of rights? secondly have you done any research into the theory of revolution? didnt think so....that theory that has become your religion is a farce at best. Thirdly if the fed is ended, bankers are put in jail when they break the law, and the troops are brought home how does the gap between the rich and the poor grow?
@trav11193 How does the gap between rich and poor grow under Ron Paul? Drop the estate tax and the capital gains tax to ZERO, exactly as Ron Paul has proposed. Those are two of the most significant taxes that work toward not having our own system of "landed gentry" in this country.
@Zaunstar your missing the biggest problem...The U.S. is doomed if the Fed isn't Destroyed. If this doesn't happen the taxes levied against the rich the gap will have no effect on the gap
@trav11193 The Fed has been around quite awhile, and has seen boom times and bust times just like before the Fed. It seems that if the Fed were the sole cause, that we would see some major difference in the cycles.
@trav11193 Have you done any research on evolution? And by research I don't mean looking at the crazy conspiracy theory and religious propaganda websites, I mean actually going to reputable sources, like any scientific (pear reviewed) papers on the subject.
@QueQuoiHuh Science says life starts at conception. Ron Paul following the constitution by protecting life. There is no mothers right to murder. Thats all If you are stuck on moms right to choose then you are one of the people that believe life starts when baby leaves mothers tummy. You dont even think its murder. You seeit just depends on what you believe about when life starts. I am with the scientist. I think it starts at conception has rights and protection by the constitution.
Ron Paul has my support when it comes to issues like individual liberties and the war on drugs. However, a lot of his ideas are simply unrealistic and I don't think they'd work in the real world.
I like politicians that you can understand and that make sense. This video reminds me of the smooth talking and complex arguments that we have had to deal with for decades. Ron Paul makes sense to me. Hes also strikes me as genuinely humble and passionate.
Maybe the Paulbots should get together and create their own civilization away from the worthless eaters. Paul is an Ayn Rand devotee and to be completely honest that is enough for me to despise him.
I'm getting tired of all those useful idiots, calling for people to vote for a candidate who's just gonna unleash the hell of unrestricted, corporate tyranny and austerity at an even faster rate, as some kind of response to this shithole of a situation. Market deregulations and corporate pandering is not a response to impoverishment and a crisis of capitalism.
I completely disagree with many of Ron Paul's stances, but it would be nice to have a president that actually actually cares about issues rather than just their own political career.
One problem with the video, Ron Paul wants states to have legislative power over abortion, He wouldn't make it illegal, he would bring it down to a state level. Otherwise, spot on.
... not for the presidency, but for Obama to debate in 2012.
... because none of the other Republi-clowns even come close to having a valid argument against some of the encroachments Obama has made on civil liberties.
@MasterChieeff True, he is a bit better then the rest of the republican candidates, but that is like saying "this poop with corn in it tastes better then this poop with grass in it". Its still shit bro.
you would need 2hr long broadcast for the other candidates and week long special for Odrama.
So yeh im a RP fanboy and am always open to both sides however compared to your other choices.. its a no brianer.
So a time served obstetrician has an alternitive view on abortion.. after all he has aborted lots of children and fine details maybe thin.. but USA and EU are destroying the globe and he is THE ONLY ONE who cares, please lets fix the world.
Science believes life starts at conception. Ron Paul is following the constitution by protecting life. There is no mothers right to murder. Thats all. If you are stuck on moms right to choose then you are one of the people that believe life starts when baby leaves mothers tummy. You dont even think its murder. You see it just depends on what you believe about when life starts. I am with the scientist. I think it starts at conception has rights and protection by the constitution.
And my former post was not a defence of Ron Paul. I agree with everything you said about his character, stands, and everything else. However, I still fear he is a better choice than most of their other nominees! Just saying!
Realizing that you will brand me as a conspiracy theorist for this. You make out the very unsubstantiated claim that not even the hawks of the Republican party would go to war anytime soon, cuz of lack of appetite. But then what is all this retoric against Iraq, and their nuclear program all about? Then don't forget that the US still has military activity going on all around the near/middle east. But wouldn't sentiment change if another 9/11 were to happen? If war is what is desired, it will.
@Zaunstar Also, about abortion, it's can be a very tricky issue because "life" of a fetus is controversial. Since Dr. Paul thinks that life starts at conception, that "person"'s right to life needs to be protected, just as others' right to life needs protection. And when a mother has an abortion, she's infringing on that person's right to life.
But for those who don't view the fetus as living or without the right to life, the mother's autonomy is the only concern and is protected by RoeV.Wade
personally i believe that the Federal Government is there to run the country not our daily lives. therefore the people can choose how they want their state to be/operate by choosing the right governor and representative. thats my view of democracy. state regulate their taxes increase competition for business etc.
@deeppurple28 well this guy is a nobody who just happens to dislike RP because he believes in a god, what makes this guy a classical atheist bigot.
And as a nobody who tries hard to become popular on youtube by thrashing other people, his opinionand constant hipocracy (as he happens to agree with the major issues RP wants to solve, personal opinions about very personal matters are something else) is irrelevant.
I agree that Ron Paul will never win. Nonetheless, the country is pretty in the shitter no matter which moron gets elected. Obama has already proven he can't run the country. And none of the other republican candidates have two usable brain cells between them. Let's just say like it is. No matter who wins... WE as Americans LOSE!
Ron paul's worst is other politicians' best. Ron paul is still the real hope. I dun like the republican party or the democrats.. I just want Ron Paul. For a politician.. he's still considered one of the best if you were to look at him in a bigger picture.
Since when is that? Sounds like a baseless opinion to me. He's the new Ralph Nader. Will never win, but will just keep running. However, unlike Nader, he will try to bury himself in one of the parties just to get endorsement.
Although I am only 16 and not too well educated in politics, I believed Ron Paul was a near-perfect candidate until I saw this video. What you say is very interesting, persuasive, and enlightening. I do have one question though, if Ron Paul isn't the best guy out there, who is?
@DestroyerofDodds The best guy, as usual, is probably not running. I couldn't begin to tell you who that is. I just want people to look past the "enthusiasm" of Paul supporters, and really look at what he wants to do, and the consequences of those policies.
@DestroyerofDodds Its great that you see Ron Paul for what he is but you really should be trying to find your own views through research and critical thinking. Listen to other points of views but try not to form your opinions based on the views of others. Zaunster is a great to listen to and I agree with him almost 100% but even I would never ask him who to vote for. I am sure you, after careful consideration, will make the right choices.
While I respect your views, I think the issues that he's hitting hardest on, ending the war on drugs especially, will do more good for us than he could harm us from the other stuff you're worried about. He makes way too much sense to me, when I hear him talk, to just disregard. I at least want to see him make the nomination.
Also, don't the wealthy find loopholes out of taxes anyways?
@radonrebutts Ron Paul is the strongest candidate that will support the Constitution. He isn't prefect but at least unlike Barack Obama or Sarah Palin. Ron Paul is consistent.
@radonrebutts the problem beside the fact that the education system being unconstitutional. the United States should mandate people to be educated or indoctrinated that the government is to dictate private property rights. Individuals are the ones who are suppose to own property. why do you think we have taxes?
@xxxThePeachxxx Hi peach. is there anything you can show men to convince me that i should not vote for Ron Paul if he happens to be a candidate for the presidency?
@Zaunstar They most certainly can. They can do the same thing that was done in Roe v Wade. An abortion case in defense of the child can go to the court and they can attach the constitution in favor of the child. There's a precedent for you. Then it would be illegal to abort any child because that child now has rights, regardless of how far into the pregnancy. Rape victims, mother's life in danger. doesn't matter. The child would be on equal footing in the eyes of the constitution.
By supporting anti abortion laws you are protecting someones liberty and that's the fetuses. Women shouldn't be allowed to have sex get pregnant and then just abort a baby because they don't want it. Especially when their a couple months pregnant. I'm not religious at all and even I think abortion should be outlawed much more than it is now. I understand rape or if it harms the women's health but not if the women just doesn't want the baby.
@boghdan2000 Seriously. Seek help. You have no idea what you are talking about when you talk about me. You know nothing about me. You seem mentally disturbed and violent. I think you need help.
@styrmirr86 hmmm really? than help me...I know the universe is complex I can admit that I do not know everything, I think we all need help in this world and at some level we are all connected by our humanity, but maybe you are more advanced than me, I am willing to accept your help if you want to give it!...are you going to help me or just demean me?...witch is it? i have the same username at yah...send me an email!
@Zaunstar I suspect your tune will change when abortion is revisited by a pro-life-heavy supreme court. Maybe giving it to the states is preferable to the alternative possibility?
@jimlovesgina There is no alternative possibility. They can't personally make a law against it. They can allow an existing law or not. There is no silver lining for the pro-choice side there.
There is a huge silver lining for the pro-life side just as there was a huge silver lining for the music industry against napster, CENTRALIZATION, 1 target is easier to change then many, hints government should run more like Bittorrent 1 protocol ( democracy ) A number of trackers ( states ) and a number of peers the people, if every state needs to be lobbied by the pro-life side its gonna be hard for them to take them all down, worse case some travel costs for abortions
@csjbo1990 This thread is a discussion of the criticisms of Ron Paul (or so I thought). I am simply answering the criticisms with some reason. The federal government is too big, we are constantly at war policing the world, our freedom is slowly being taken away, our economy is going over a cliff and nobody is talking about these things except Ron Paul. The criticisms here are weak in light of everything else. I invite you to start a thread about your favorite candidate and see where it goes.
Taxes cost money. The courts are part of the government. The use of toxic sludge in the EPA bit is misleading. You're entire argument on the EPA is very poor.
Nobody has the appetite? Have you seen how people have been talking about Iran? Also - you do remember how at the beginning of this war, we were assured that it wouldn't grow to the scale it has?
And why does the fact that he came to a different conclusion make him wrong?
Plus - did you also read that he defines life to begin at conception? Which would mean that abortion is not a "personal liberty" to him.
Who gives a shit if he is a creationist? I mean seriously, is that all you are harping on? There are a lot of brilliant people who believed in a lotta of wacky things. Issac Newton was a brilliant physicist who believed in a literal interpretation of the bible and engaged in alchemy. Soviet union athiests were not allowed to study genetics because it went against communism. My only concern and what should be other people's concerns is if he has a high economics literacy and he clearly does
@Pentazoid111 I mentioned about 5+ things I disagree with him on. Creationism was just one, and like I said is more of a "symptom" of not being able to separate fact from fiction than a campaign issue unto itself.
@Zaunstar People who hold similar views to you often have issues with whether or not a politician believes in the theory of evolution and not so much whether or not they possess a basic understanding of economics. In POLITICS, its not important whether they believe in the theory of evolution or creationism ; What is important is whether or not they know economics because economic policy a government adopts greatly impacts the standard of living of its citizens
Even if Ron Paul is the best candidate, he won't get elected. Even if it looks differently on the comment sections of youtube videos, he simply doesn't have enough supporters.
blackcoateric 1 day ago
He simply wants states to make the decisions and not federal government. "Lowering taxes will keep wealthy families rich forever" - this is simply an absurd statement considering how the ultra wealthy usually pay very little in taxes to begin with and the poor are most devastated by taxes. A person making 30K a year would benefit greatly if he/she could keep 100% of their income. Not to mention, government is almost always irresponsible with money and have had numerous failed programs.
SuperMongoloids 2 days ago
I support Ron Paul on some issues but many of his issues I think are dangerous for America. For example he wants to get rid of the minimum wage which means businesses can pay someone a third-world wage if they wanted to. I don't like how many Ron Paul supporters seem to support EVERYTHING the guy says....
m3talcorps3 6 days ago
Sadly Ron Paul is from Texas and he can't say he supports evolution because to texans that means he hates god or something stupid. He sadly has to play political word games to be in office. If he said tomorrow that he was pro choice and believed in evolution he would be run out of the republican party and texas. He's not perfect, but he's the closest to being what I want for president that I have to vote for right now. Ron Paul 2012
drewnut 6 days ago
@drewnut Maybe I'm not understanding, but it sounds to me like you're claiming that he believes in evolution and is pro choice but is lying about it to better his chances at becoming president. Let me ask, do you have ANY evidence of that?
QcatDoesGames 2 days ago
@QcatDoesGames hard to have direct evidence of another persons beliefs but if you watch /watch?v=JSW2-Ppfewk Ron Paul works really hard to avoid answering the question regarding evolution. He doesn't take a side because that could split his supporters. As a medical doctor, he has observed bacteria and viruses evolve. Creationist supporters of Ron Paul in texas don't want to hear a science lesson. They've demonized the word so you should avoid answering the question.
drewnut 1 day ago
@QcatDoesGames my wording may have been poor for Ron Paul on abortion. watch?v=FRVnX_EGyAY&feature=related His occupation was to deliver babies so although I am a gradualist on abortion, I can still support ron paul even though we disagree on the issue. I have great respect for his beliefs because they are based on his life experiences and not solely on an old book.
drewnut 1 day ago
@drewnut The abortion link isn't working for me, so I won't address that for now.
I feel like he was fairly direct. He said he doesn't accept evolution because it's a theory, which demonstrates to me that he doesn't understand what a scientific theory is. He then goes on to say that he believes in a creator, which seems to me like a belief based "solely on an old book."
I don't think evolutionary stance matters too much as a president. But I'm not seeing any evidence that he agrees with it.
QcatDoesGames 1 day ago
@QcatDoesGames you can believe in a creator without an old book which is what some founding fathers did by being deists but ron paul is a christian. Ron Paul said how life originated is an interesting discussion. 39% of americans are creationists and they are more likely to vote because they are older so you must avoid associating yourself with the term evolution in texas. /watch?v=FRVnX_EGyAY&feature=related
drewnut 1 day ago
@drewnut I'm well aware of deism. RP is a Christian, so his belief in god most likely stems from the bible.
I think you're missing my point. Paul directly said that he DOES NOT accept evolution. I'm not arguing that claiming he did believe in evolution would be good for his campaign. I'm saying that if you're going to assert that he does accept evolution and is lying about it, you need actual evidence. Otherwise it's just a meaningless assertion which no rational person should take seriously.
QcatDoesGames 1 day ago
@QcatDoesGames I guess my point is that there are two definitions for evolution. One scientific and one political. RP said that how life came to be is an interesting discussion and neither side knows the complete truth.
drewnut 1 day ago
@QcatDoesGames I would just like to argue that as a doctor, he knows living organisms change over time slowly through reproduction and I honestly have no direct proof of his beliefs but I think its unfair to criticize one of our best choices for president because he must conform to the political norms enforced on him by the republican party on the issue of evolution
drewnut 1 day ago
@drewnut There are PLENTY of doctors who don't accept evolution, so the fact that he was a doctor is irrelevant. As I already said, I don't think evolutionary stance matters much as a president, so I'm not sure why you're saying I'm criticizing him. You pretty much have admitted that the notion that RP accepts evolution is just a guess. And that's fine. There's nothing wrong with considering all of the possibilities. Just don't mislead people by presenting it as fact.
QcatDoesGames 1 day ago
@QcatDoesGames i meant the video criticizes him on the issue, not you personally.
drewnut 22 hours ago
wRong the retard Paul wants a Post Vicil War America to be reborn! An Era were blacks were considered second class citizens and Corporations had to worry about ZERO Government regulations so that they can continue their shady practices! FUCK YOU WRONG PAUL!
deeppurple28 1 week ago
FUCKING IDIOT
gogolplex74 1 week ago
@gogolplex74 Good argument! I'll have to think about that one awhile and get back to you.
Zaunstar 1 week ago 6
You rock bro.
fockingclassy 3 weeks ago
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TheMightyTed 3 weeks ago
@fockingclassy I can guess that you would benefit from legalization of drugs!
TheMightyTed 3 weeks ago
You look like a major fag dude. And I'm gay, so no that's not proof that Ron Paul supporters are homophobic.
Madfoot713 3 weeks ago
@Madfoot713
Well no it doesn't prove that Ron Paul supporters are homophobic it just proves that Ron Paul supporters can't refute anything that's thrown to them and just resorts to namecalling.
fedoglenn 2 weeks ago
@fedoglenn "Well no it doesn't prove that Ron Paul supporters are homophobic"
Let me stop you right there. Thank you.
Madfoot713 1 week ago
So, why does everyone have Ron Paul Boner?
bbenally88 3 weeks ago
@bbenally88 Because they are dumb and don't understand how big of a liar he is.
shagoosty 3 weeks ago
Separation of powers?!!!! Are you seriously saying that in the same sentence as you defend Roe v. Wade?!!! And you criticize Ron Paul's critical thinking skills. I know your kind like to pretend there is no 10th Amendment, but it is there, and abortion should be up to the states!
thewag777 3 weeks ago
Why do you hate gnomes?
Pangolinx1 1 month ago
@Pangolinx1 They used to steal my lunch money.
Zaunstar 1 month ago 11
@Zaunstar What about Pauls stance on drugs?
blickluke 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from Zaunstar
wRong Paul got PWNED! The Paulites are going to be pissed about this one! LOL Ah FUCK EM!
deeppurple28 1 month ago
Ever notice how Ron Paul douchebags typically hate jews and blacks?
MrBigBEARHUNTER 1 month ago
@MrBigBEARHUNTER so untrueeeeeeeee....
KoushAcalledKukA 2 weeks ago
Your point on Ron Paul being pro-life is weak but the very foundation of his ideology is the government rule is to protect life, liberty, and private property. Now you can say that there is liberty taking away from the woman but there is certainly life being taken away from the fetus as well. And I think "life" is of higher priority in his eyes and many others. To say that is not a pro-liberty position is being fallacious.
matt4787 1 month ago
@matt4787 Well, it's a position on which reasonable people disagree, and for him to decide HE has the right answer AND is happy to let himself or others that think like him in states decide for them seems anti-liberty to me.
Zaunstar 1 month ago
@Zaunstar Christopher Hitchens was a pro-life and he was alot smarter than you.
uralldiseasedXD 1 month ago
@uralldiseasedXD Yes he was pro-life. Yes, he was likely smarter than me too. There are religious people that are smarter than me too, but it doesn't mean god exists.
Zaunstar 1 month ago 6
@Zaunstar So you don't like Ron Paul being pro-life because he is religious or you just don't like pro-lifers in general?
uralldiseasedXD 1 month ago
@uralldiseasedXD I don't agree with the pro-life position. They're all religious, so that doesn't really matter.
Zaunstar 1 month ago
@Zaunstar Doesn't everyone with a political stance on something think they have the right answer? Besides if he was so confidant with this "right" decision wouldn't he dictate it at the federal level and not through 50 states separate laws. He is taking a constitutional position when it comes to states having the decision. Not a pro-life position.
matt4787 2 weeks ago
@matt4787 thank you for showing me, that somebody here still has the skill to think....
KoushAcalledKukA 2 weeks ago
Kook Paul 1812!
9886635574 1 month ago in playlist More videos from Zaunstar
@9886635574 i think it's not that informative. it seems very biased for me, even if he tries to think critically. i wish zaunstar would think more steps forward.
KoushAcalledKukA 2 weeks ago
great video! VERY informative.
dkthg 1 month ago
Nobody has the appetite for another war ? All the Republican candidates except Paul are desperate for war with Iran.Iran is not iraq and could start WW3
Grange34 1 month ago
@Grange34 I somehow don't see many countries willing to fight on Iran's side militarily.
Zaunstar 1 month ago
You know what? I was willing to accept that you had actually given some thought to your points, though, having a few years on you, I respectfully disagree, but your closing line was just disrespectful, and shows you for the troll you are.
midhodhinn 1 month ago
@midhodhinn I may be older than you think. If you're going to take that very harmless G-rated joke that seriously, then my guess is that this is the only video of mine that you have seen. I would suggest you need a little more humor in your life, not less. *:-)
Zaunstar 1 month ago
Plus you look like Tom Arnold after Lasik.
chokitpi 1 month ago
You are a moron. You are simply hating on Ron Paul to be a contrarian.
chokitpi 1 month ago
@chokitpi Except that there are tons of people who hate ron paul now because of all the newsletter shit that has come out. The fact that you're calling him a contrarian demonstrates that you don't know what that word actually means.
Oh, and you don't have to bother defending him so hard anymore because it's clearly over at this point...Again.
xxFortunadoxx 1 month ago
@xxFortunadoxx The newsletter was fake. Although it tells me exactly where you get your information ;)
kromeclutch 1 month ago
@kromeclutch No one is contending that the newsletters (plural) were fake. The contention is is that the newsletters weren't written by him and/or went out without his knowledge. That excuse is still extremely problematic.
You are a complete dumbass for thinking that they were fake. You're also a complete dumbass for asserting that only fringe websites have reported on the newspapers when just about EVERY publication has reported on them.
Begone. You're a waste of time.
xxFortunadoxx 1 month ago
@xxFortunadoxx FOOL Paul bots live in an alternate dimension where reality does not exist and DR. Ron Paul (they ALWAYS have to remind you he is a doctor) is their almighty ruler waving the liberty wand
oh private business banning a minority and the minority isn't happy about the racism? wave the liberty wand
gay marriage? wave the liberty wand!
ALL they do is repeat 3 things
1. he is a doctor
2. he believes in liberty
3. he doesn't like the wars
otherwise they have no clue
alex134219 1 month ago
@alex134219 Yes. A doctor that doesn't believe in Evolution, even though he relied upon it every fucking day he was a doctor.
Kinda scares you that he even has a degree to begin with.
xxFortunadoxx 1 month ago
@xxFortunadoxx I'm more scared of the cult he has personally
they are just inches away from human sacrifices
alex134219 1 month ago
@alex134219 Don't worry. When he continues to lose his already dwindling support in the primary, he will fade back into the shadows and will only be mentioned on libertarian ayn rand forums where he can fucking stay.
Oh, and his dumbass son can join him.
xxFortunadoxx 1 month ago
@xxFortunadoxx lol I agree
alex134219 1 month ago
@xxFortunadoxx
Hah, well said. They're so tough on any of his critics, but will hopefully be silenced when that time is.
KammeratGak 1 month ago
@KammeratGak Actually, looking at the political map, he's already dead at this point. It is very unlikely that anyone but Romney will dominate in Nevada which Ron Paul currently holds a grand 9% of the vote.
The next primary after that is Maine where Romney secured over 50% of the vote back in 2008 with McCain running.
So this means I finally get to laugh at all the paultards because of how wrong they were after all the "the federal reserve is unconstitutional" debates they put me through.
xxFortunadoxx 1 month ago
@xxFortunadoxx Too bad, the seed has already planted. haha
uralldiseasedXD 1 month ago
@uralldiseasedXD That could be taken a couple of ways.
xxFortunadoxx 1 month ago
@chokitpi Yes, I couldn't POSSIBLY actually believe Ron Paul is not a good presidential candidate, right? Clearly most people agree with me on this. I don't think you understand what "contrarian" means.
Zaunstar 1 month ago
@Zaunstar I might actually believe that if they were YOUR beliefs. I have only one question you should answer here and that is what is your opinion on the NDAA and of Ben Bernanke and Obama's friendship? You need to do some homework Tom Arnold Jr.
chokitpi 2 weeks ago
@chokitpi NDAA should not have been passed in that form. Obama signed it because he felt he had to politically, and then made a signing statement which is nonsense when any president does it. Friends with Bernanke? I think he's probably friends with thousands of people. Not sure why I should care, other than that Paul supporters think the Fed is their version of the Illuminati.
Zaunstar 2 weeks ago
@Zaunstar Obama’s use of signing statements has clearly shown his willingness to continue the George W. Bush legacy not only of torture and illegal detainment. Such signing statements put in place a precedent for future presidents to follow or expand upon. Further, Barack Obama has continued to backslide on his campaign promise not to use signing statements and executive orders to circumnavigate legislation signed into law. This is duplicitous and I truly pity you for not seeing it...
chokitpi 1 week ago
@chokitpi Signing statements ARE wrong. I just TOLD you it was wrong in the last comment, and now you "pity" me for not seeing it when I agree with you. Please read what I wrote already.
Zaunstar 1 week ago
@Zaunstar Okay well I apologize, pity retracted. But you did seem to try to justify it as part of the Obama political strategy.. When you say 'in that form', does that mean you think the NDAA should have been passed, if only altered?.. Because there is really nothing acceptable about the entirety of the bill. Do you know who runs the Federal Reserve and what it is? I think if you understood that then you may understand why Libertarians(not just Paul supporters)think it is pretty evil.
chokitpi 1 week ago
@chokitpi The parts of NDAA related to civil liberties and those "assassinations" should have been altered at least. I have not read the entire bill, but don't doubt there are other bits in there I disagree with. As for the Fed, I'm not really into that. It's been around in good times and in bad for decades, and it's only recently with Ron Paul blaming it for things that it's on the map politically at all. I think going back to the gold standard would be a disaster.
Zaunstar 1 week ago
@Zaunstar The crisis of 1913 generated the establishment of the Fed. Which was in turn caused by the panic of 1907 when the Banking establishments, with a bunch of help from J.P. Morgan, tried to buy out the entire copper industry.. If you study your history you will not be condemned to repeat it.. The Fed is a serious issue.
chokitpi 1 week ago
@Zaunstar I'd like you to watch a short film found on Youtube called 'The American Dream' it should help you understand the issue a bit better..
chokitpi 1 week ago
Howard Stern rocks!
influxrift 1 month ago
This Atheist endorses Ron Paul!
VerdosoVersusElites 1 month ago
wRong Paul OWNED, should be the title of this video!
deeppurple28 1 month ago
Ok, you made some really good points in this video Zaun, and I kind of hate you for it. Ron Paul was my escape route. After becoming disillusioned by Obama, I thought I'd have someone else to choose from. Perhaps somebody better. Now I have the option of Ron Paul (anti-drugwar but pro-life/pro-creationism/pro-wealthly) and Obama (not a terrible president but weak/promise-breaking/ball-less). So WTF is my choice? Can't I have ONE election with two GOOD candidates?? I feel so hopeless!
GashPlague 1 month ago 3
@GashPlague They're all terrible choices, it's basically "Evil vs. Stupid", so take your pick. We're all fucked anyway.
potatocats 1 month ago
@potatocats Damnit that's just not acceptable! I used to have the same "fuck it" view of voting for shitty candidates, and then Bush Jr happened. Twice. Now I care. It's gotten to the point where even I'M thinking of running for president. I mean, every candidate is either a morally corrupt asshat or a sissy bitch. Is it too much to ask for a well-rounded candidate? If Zaunstar ran, I'd probably vote for him. But most of us are too lazy or dont think we stand enough of a chance.
GashPlague 1 month ago
@GashPlague There are no perfect candidates or perfect answers. Keep an eye on politics and policy. DO stay informed and as active as you can stand being, but remember to also learn how to navigate life for yourself as best you can under the "rules of the game". Learn them, play by them, and succeed.
Zaunstar 1 month ago 3
@Zaunstar Yeah, but is it too much to ask for a candidate with, oh-say... HALF the policies that I agree with? I feel like there's no politicians out there that share my point of view. Or anything close to it. I do try to stay informed, but that just brings me closer to the realization that there's nobody I want to vote for. It feels like to only way to get America back on track is to run for president myself and I just don't have the resources or know-how to do that.
GashPlague 1 month ago
@GashPlague I would settle for just one good candidate. Ever. But I wont hold my breath.
Hyperlot 1 month ago
@Hyperlot Lol, if you did, you wouldn't have to worry about the next election.
GashPlague 1 month ago
no matter what your bullshiting. RON PAUL is the only hope for USA, i'm from netherland
europeuyghurs 1 month ago
OK I m not american but even I m sick with this shit, WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!!
This ridicouls antagonisation, I mean "Dr Paul is against social safety nets there for he wants the poor to starve in the streets"WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?
Do you allways assume that the person on the other side is either a complete fucking moron or a just evil
rodrigodet 1 month ago
I think the court is actually part of the government. If the evil corporations win unfairly in the court, what is the solution? Another president? If you need a watcher for the watcher there is something wrong with the judicial system I would say. I'm not a Ron Paul supporter.
theworldeatswithyou 1 month ago
Very well done.
I think a lot of Ron Paul supporters on the net are people like me who are not even American and don't care if he screws up America, as long as he gets them to stop invading other countries.
His environmental and healthcare policies are a joke, but his drug and foreign policies are great. I still think he is the best option the Republican party has though. Not for getting elected, but for putting up a candidate who is worthy of at least being in office.
Silentsam7532 1 month ago
He doesn't "change his tune on liberty". Your opinions sounds like they are coming from Obama's point of view. He would over turn Roe vs. Wade to protect life. Unborn children get legal consideration in the eyes of the law why not equal protection under the law. Except in cases of rape or medical danger for the mother. Don't want kids? Have safe sex or don't have it.
reddeath595 2 months ago
@reddeath595 ...and then if safe sex fails, then you're stuck? The woman then must decide based one what... the state thinks? What a deity of your choice, but NOT hers thinks?
Zaunstar 1 month ago 12
Great Vid Zaunstar! I'm so glad you mentioned about Paul's Anti Evolution stance, because I agree with you. All my friends say "That shouldn't effect his presidency". And I always try to come up with a well articulated reason as to why I want to dispute that, and your words of "It being a symptom of a greater problem...etc" was PERFECTLY said. Again, great Vid
Krooksbane 2 months ago 2
@Krooksbane Thanks! Glad I could help crystallize some things for you.
Zaunstar 2 months ago 2
Zaunstar! You are the winner of a shiny new subscriber!
QueQuoiHuh 2 months ago
@QueQuoiHuh Hooray! I will keep you in my piggy bank with the others.
Zaunstar 2 months ago
I'm not an american, but out of all the candidates, i would want him in the white house. I'm an atheist but hell will freeze over before we see an atheist in the whitehouse. So i have some issues with him but he still beats obama imo, since he has turned out to be a twofaced asshole. NDAA anyone!? You need to accept that you can't have everything. And he makes a hell of a lot of sense than the rest of the republicans.
Shinkajo 2 months ago
Ron Paul for President/Garden gnome 2012
JxXStarManXxB 2 months ago
Are you an idiot? you are so wrong about many things....first of all how is abolishing abortion a denial of rights? secondly have you done any research into the theory of revolution? didnt think so....that theory that has become your religion is a farce at best. Thirdly if the fed is ended, bankers are put in jail when they break the law, and the troops are brought home how does the gap between the rich and the poor grow?
trav11193 2 months ago
@trav11193 How does the gap between rich and poor grow under Ron Paul? Drop the estate tax and the capital gains tax to ZERO, exactly as Ron Paul has proposed. Those are two of the most significant taxes that work toward not having our own system of "landed gentry" in this country.
Zaunstar 2 months ago
@Zaunstar your missing the biggest problem...The U.S. is doomed if the Fed isn't Destroyed. If this doesn't happen the taxes levied against the rich the gap will have no effect on the gap
trav11193 2 months ago
@trav11193 The Fed has been around quite awhile, and has seen boom times and bust times just like before the Fed. It seems that if the Fed were the sole cause, that we would see some major difference in the cycles.
Zaunstar 2 months ago
@trav11193 Have you done any research on evolution? And by research I don't mean looking at the crazy conspiracy theory and religious propaganda websites, I mean actually going to reputable sources, like any scientific (pear reviewed) papers on the subject.
VetinariClone 2 months ago
@trav11193 Abolishing abortion is a denial of rights to women. No one has a right to determine what happens to another's body.
QueQuoiHuh 2 months ago
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@QueQuoiHuh Science says life starts at conception. Ron Paul following the constitution by protecting life. There is no mothers right to murder. Thats all If you are stuck on moms right to choose then you are one of the people that believe life starts when baby leaves mothers tummy. You dont even think its murder. You seeit just depends on what you believe about when life starts. I am with the scientist. I think it starts at conception has rights and protection by the constitution.
travissand 2 months ago
Ron Paul has my support when it comes to issues like individual liberties and the war on drugs. However, a lot of his ideas are simply unrealistic and I don't think they'd work in the real world.
m3talcorps3 2 months ago in playlist Liked videos
I like politicians that you can understand and that make sense. This video reminds me of the smooth talking and complex arguments that we have had to deal with for decades. Ron Paul makes sense to me. Hes also strikes me as genuinely humble and passionate.
enoip8nt 2 months ago
@enoip8nt That sounds like you are basing your vote on how touchy-feely he is. What policies are important to you?
Zaunstar 2 months ago
Being ignorant and uninformed isn't really cool.
VoteLib3rty 2 months ago
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Counterreactionary 2 months ago
Maybe the Paulbots should get together and create their own civilization away from the worthless eaters. Paul is an Ayn Rand devotee and to be completely honest that is enough for me to despise him.
uniteordie1 2 months ago
Excellent vid.
I'm getting tired of all those useful idiots, calling for people to vote for a candidate who's just gonna unleash the hell of unrestricted, corporate tyranny and austerity at an even faster rate, as some kind of response to this shithole of a situation. Market deregulations and corporate pandering is not a response to impoverishment and a crisis of capitalism.
Counterreactionary 2 months ago
I completely disagree with many of Ron Paul's stances, but it would be nice to have a president that actually actually cares about issues rather than just their own political career.
PokemonRawksBrah 2 months ago 16
One problem with the video, Ron Paul wants states to have legislative power over abortion, He wouldn't make it illegal, he would bring it down to a state level. Otherwise, spot on.
helios5868 2 months ago
Ron Paul 2012!!!
... not for the presidency, but for Obama to debate in 2012.
... because none of the other Republi-clowns even come close to having a valid argument against some of the encroachments Obama has made on civil liberties.
CBlargh 2 months ago
Ron Paul may not be perfect, but he's better than the rest of the candidates.
MasterChieeff 2 months ago
@MasterChieeff True, he is a bit better then the rest of the republican candidates, but that is like saying "this poop with corn in it tastes better then this poop with grass in it". Its still shit bro.
brian4480 2 months ago
@brian4480 Consider we have to choose SOMEONE to run the place. Why not the least shitty of the shitty?
MasterChieeff 2 months ago
is that it?
Thats all you disagree with..
you would need 2hr long broadcast for the other candidates and week long special for Odrama.
So yeh im a RP fanboy and am always open to both sides however compared to your other choices.. its a no brianer.
So a time served obstetrician has an alternitive view on abortion.. after all he has aborted lots of children and fine details maybe thin.. but USA and EU are destroying the globe and he is THE ONLY ONE who cares, please lets fix the world.
eurocon 2 months ago
Is funny how thin-skinned Ron Paul supporters always are.
GunbladeLH 2 months ago
is fiction*
TAXEXEMPTION 2 months ago
i just read a comment with the sentence"if creationism if fiction what is fact?"
no matter what good or bad happens in the USA, that sentence alone, destroys my faith in humanity.
TAXEXEMPTION 2 months ago
Science believes life starts at conception. Ron Paul is following the constitution by protecting life. There is no mothers right to murder. Thats all. If you are stuck on moms right to choose then you are one of the people that believe life starts when baby leaves mothers tummy. You dont even think its murder. You see it just depends on what you believe about when life starts. I am with the scientist. I think it starts at conception has rights and protection by the constitution.
travissand 2 months ago
And my former post was not a defence of Ron Paul. I agree with everything you said about his character, stands, and everything else. However, I still fear he is a better choice than most of their other nominees! Just saying!
Krappman 2 months ago
Realizing that you will brand me as a conspiracy theorist for this. You make out the very unsubstantiated claim that not even the hawks of the Republican party would go to war anytime soon, cuz of lack of appetite. But then what is all this retoric against Iraq, and their nuclear program all about? Then don't forget that the US still has military activity going on all around the near/middle east. But wouldn't sentiment change if another 9/11 were to happen? If war is what is desired, it will.
Krappman 2 months ago
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islamiscrap8888 2 months ago
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Ron Paul 2028.
Uhmu45 2 months ago
@Uhmu45 I love it.
travissand 2 months ago
@travissand your welcome
Uhmu45 2 months ago
@Zaunstar Also, about abortion, it's can be a very tricky issue because "life" of a fetus is controversial. Since Dr. Paul thinks that life starts at conception, that "person"'s right to life needs to be protected, just as others' right to life needs protection. And when a mother has an abortion, she's infringing on that person's right to life.
But for those who don't view the fetus as living or without the right to life, the mother's autonomy is the only concern and is protected by RoeV.Wade
josiah32000 2 months ago
@josiah32000 Yes you hit the nail on the head.
travissand 2 months ago
Ron Paul 2012.
hmongak 2 months ago
personally i believe that the Federal Government is there to run the country not our daily lives. therefore the people can choose how they want their state to be/operate by choosing the right governor and representative. thats my view of democracy. state regulate their taxes increase competition for business etc.
hmongak 2 months ago
@hmongak "Democracy"?
Almost certainly the most meaningless word in modern english.
Keinlicht 2 months ago
I have to repeat this but, this guy PWNED wRong Paul!!
deeppurple28 2 months ago 15
@deeppurple28 well this guy is a nobody who just happens to dislike RP because he believes in a god, what makes this guy a classical atheist bigot.
And as a nobody who tries hard to become popular on youtube by thrashing other people, his opinionand constant hipocracy (as he happens to agree with the major issues RP wants to solve, personal opinions about very personal matters are something else) is irrelevant.
theawesomebeliever 2 months ago
I agree that Ron Paul will never win. Nonetheless, the country is pretty in the shitter no matter which moron gets elected. Obama has already proven he can't run the country. And none of the other republican candidates have two usable brain cells between them. Let's just say like it is. No matter who wins... WE as Americans LOSE!
cdickenson64 2 months ago
@cdickenson64 Absolutely. No one good enough to vote for. I am sure that MANY of us could do the President's job much better. I know I could.
But we don't have 1.4 million dollars to start running.
Just because you're RICH, doesn't make you SMART!
civwarfan 2 months ago
@civwarfan "Just because you're RICH, doesn't make you SMART!" GeeDub made that abundantly clear.
cdickenson64 2 months ago
Ron paul's worst is other politicians' best. Ron paul is still the real hope. I dun like the republican party or the democrats.. I just want Ron Paul. For a politician.. he's still considered one of the best if you were to look at him in a bigger picture.
WasaluRonPaul 2 months ago
@WasaluRonPaul
Since when is that? Sounds like a baseless opinion to me. He's the new Ralph Nader. Will never win, but will just keep running. However, unlike Nader, he will try to bury himself in one of the parties just to get endorsement.
FrizzKid05 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@FrizzKid05 wake up bro..you sound like u're too consumed with media propaganda.
WasaluRonPaul 2 months ago
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WasaluRonPaul 2 months ago
He's gonna let you keep your money...you're not gonna have any.
tragiK0medy 2 months ago
Although I am only 16 and not too well educated in politics, I believed Ron Paul was a near-perfect candidate until I saw this video. What you say is very interesting, persuasive, and enlightening. I do have one question though, if Ron Paul isn't the best guy out there, who is?
DestroyerofDodds 2 months ago
@DestroyerofDodds The best guy, as usual, is probably not running. I couldn't begin to tell you who that is. I just want people to look past the "enthusiasm" of Paul supporters, and really look at what he wants to do, and the consequences of those policies.
Zaunstar 2 months ago
@DestroyerofDodds Its great that you see Ron Paul for what he is but you really should be trying to find your own views through research and critical thinking. Listen to other points of views but try not to form your opinions based on the views of others. Zaunster is a great to listen to and I agree with him almost 100% but even I would never ask him who to vote for. I am sure you, after careful consideration, will make the right choices.
thesparitan 2 months ago
While I respect your views, I think the issues that he's hitting hardest on, ending the war on drugs especially, will do more good for us than he could harm us from the other stuff you're worried about. He makes way too much sense to me, when I hear him talk, to just disregard. I at least want to see him make the nomination.
Also, don't the wealthy find loopholes out of taxes anyways?
FleckoGold 2 months ago
@WhyDoYouNeedaGod if actually read what i typed you would realize that i was making a comparison.
islamiscrap8888 2 months ago
@radonrebutts Ron Paul is the strongest candidate that will support the Constitution. He isn't prefect but at least unlike Barack Obama or Sarah Palin. Ron Paul is consistent.
islamiscrap8888 2 months ago
@radonrebutts the problem beside the fact that the education system being unconstitutional. the United States should mandate people to be educated or indoctrinated that the government is to dictate private property rights. Individuals are the ones who are suppose to own property. why do you think we have taxes?
islamiscrap8888 2 months ago
@xxxThePeachxxx Hi peach. is there anything you can show men to convince me that i should not vote for Ron Paul if he happens to be a candidate for the presidency?
islamiscrap8888 2 months ago
@Zaunstar They most certainly can. They can do the same thing that was done in Roe v Wade. An abortion case in defense of the child can go to the court and they can attach the constitution in favor of the child. There's a precedent for you. Then it would be illegal to abort any child because that child now has rights, regardless of how far into the pregnancy. Rape victims, mother's life in danger. doesn't matter. The child would be on equal footing in the eyes of the constitution.
jimlovesgina 2 months ago
By supporting anti abortion laws you are protecting someones liberty and that's the fetuses. Women shouldn't be allowed to have sex get pregnant and then just abort a baby because they don't want it. Especially when their a couple months pregnant. I'm not religious at all and even I think abortion should be outlawed much more than it is now. I understand rape or if it harms the women's health but not if the women just doesn't want the baby.
inflamez6x3 2 months ago
Pro-Life=Anti-Woman.
TheAdamTheory 2 months ago
@TheAdamTheory if that were true why are so many women pro life than?..are they against themselves?
boghdan2000 1 month ago
@boghdan2000 Seriously. Seek help. You have no idea what you are talking about when you talk about me. You know nothing about me. You seem mentally disturbed and violent. I think you need help.
styrmirr86 1 month ago
@styrmirr86 hmmm really? than help me...I know the universe is complex I can admit that I do not know everything, I think we all need help in this world and at some level we are all connected by our humanity, but maybe you are more advanced than me, I am willing to accept your help if you want to give it!...are you going to help me or just demean me?...witch is it? i have the same username at yah...send me an email!
boghdan2000 1 month ago
@Zaunstar I suspect your tune will change when abortion is revisited by a pro-life-heavy supreme court. Maybe giving it to the states is preferable to the alternative possibility?
jimlovesgina 2 months ago
@jimlovesgina There is no alternative possibility. They can't personally make a law against it. They can allow an existing law or not. There is no silver lining for the pro-choice side there.
Zaunstar 2 months ago
@Zaunstar
There is a huge silver lining for the pro-life side just as there was a huge silver lining for the music industry against napster, CENTRALIZATION, 1 target is easier to change then many, hints government should run more like Bittorrent 1 protocol ( democracy ) A number of trackers ( states ) and a number of peers the people, if every state needs to be lobbied by the pro-life side its gonna be hard for them to take them all down, worse case some travel costs for abortions
deathZor42 2 months ago
@csjbo1990 This thread is a discussion of the criticisms of Ron Paul (or so I thought). I am simply answering the criticisms with some reason. The federal government is too big, we are constantly at war policing the world, our freedom is slowly being taken away, our economy is going over a cliff and nobody is talking about these things except Ron Paul. The criticisms here are weak in light of everything else. I invite you to start a thread about your favorite candidate and see where it goes.
jimlovesgina 2 months ago
Your*
JohnCurtisFolkerts 2 months ago
Taxes cost money. The courts are part of the government. The use of toxic sludge in the EPA bit is misleading. You're entire argument on the EPA is very poor.
JohnCurtisFolkerts 2 months ago
I enjoy your use of backgrounds. :I
RochettexLivexVirus 2 months ago
If a christian can save the economy... then put him in office.
I'd take a productive christian over 10 lying atheists any day.
I'm not saying all atheist lie (i'm an atheist). I'm saying that his contribution to society has little to do with the beaks of birds.
keysle 2 months ago
@keysle so i continued watching the video :/
keysle 2 months ago
Zaun, so true, compared to the rest of the GOP field, Ron Paul is a genius.
DawnOfTheDead991 2 months ago
Nobody has the appetite? Have you seen how people have been talking about Iran? Also - you do remember how at the beginning of this war, we were assured that it wouldn't grow to the scale it has?
And why does the fact that he came to a different conclusion make him wrong?
Plus - did you also read that he defines life to begin at conception? Which would mean that abortion is not a "personal liberty" to him.
netraven5000 2 months ago
Who gives a shit if he is a creationist? I mean seriously, is that all you are harping on? There are a lot of brilliant people who believed in a lotta of wacky things. Issac Newton was a brilliant physicist who believed in a literal interpretation of the bible and engaged in alchemy. Soviet union athiests were not allowed to study genetics because it went against communism. My only concern and what should be other people's concerns is if he has a high economics literacy and he clearly does
Pentazoid111 2 months ago
@Pentazoid111 I mentioned about 5+ things I disagree with him on. Creationism was just one, and like I said is more of a "symptom" of not being able to separate fact from fiction than a campaign issue unto itself.
Zaunstar 2 months ago 9
@Zaunstar People who hold similar views to you often have issues with whether or not a politician believes in the theory of evolution and not so much whether or not they possess a basic understanding of economics. In POLITICS, its not important whether they believe in the theory of evolution or creationism ; What is important is whether or not they know economics because economic policy a government adopts greatly impacts the standard of living of its citizens
Pentazoid111 2 months ago