Interesting movie, but a bit self indulgent of Alan Bennet. The film is set in a comprehensive school in 1983. Most unconvincing is the acceptance of homosexuality. Bennett's school is more like a fifties prep or grammar school. I was in VIth form in a comprehensive in 1983, and I was also gay. I can most definitely assure everyone it wasnt like this, or anything remotely like it.
@EarlZetland I recently heard Bennett say he drew some of the teachers from those he had had at school in the fifties. Quite. The whole thing is postwar prep or grammar school, and nothing to do with the eighties. If you were gay in a comp in the socialist seventies you were dead.
I do like some of A.B.'s work (his three best are 'An Englishman Abroad''A Question of Attribution' and 'The Madness of George III', but too much Bennettry is drooling over young guys, or patronising old people.
@holbeincity Remind me; is it private or an open-to-all direct-grant grammar? either way it's not a boarding school. Prep schools porobably were a little more civilised at that time, comparatively
@splinterbyrd urg i dunno i watched it ages ago. unlikely to be private because of the characters' backgrounds. but i dunno. i have to say though, i think your complaint is a little unfair either way. the whole thing is super-stylized - it's not realism because it isn't supposed to be. its about learning and education and their value, and i don't think that its supplementary presentation of adolescent homosexuality in the 80s should have to be gritty out of necessity.
@splinterbyrd appreciate your points tho. i wouldn't argue that it isn't self-indulgent, but i don't think that precludes quality (and i do think history boys is rather marvellous)
@holbeincity well we'll agree to differ. And I do like alot of AB's work. It's a while since Ive seen History Boys so perhaps I ought to try it again. As I recall, it is certainly well acted, epsecially Frances delaTour and Richard Griffiths. I guess Im always a bit queasy about films I feel claim to be one thing, and are in fact a clothes-horse for something else. Eg. that ghastly film 'Another Country' (not by AB) . Absolutely nothing to recommend it except alot of young men looking pretty.
I am fairly sure that the film is set in a grammar school. I agree that it is a little implausible if set in a comprehensive. But anyway it's fiction and intended to identify a different truth.
@DrSpamMD Watched it again after we exchanged messages. Nah just doesnt do it for me. If he's trying to say something about the inspiration that's behind good education, he's not doing it v well. Pity, as there's a lot of interesting and politically relevant things one could say about it, no more relevant than in our culture now in which the mystique of learning has all but disappeared. Plus, the actors playing teenage boys are all patently adults. Praps better on stage, tho i doubt it....
@splinterbyrd That's quite right,I love the film especially the part when Posner is singing to Dakin but it's true that acceptance of homosexuality on that level wouldn't have existed then,in the early 1980's when Nielson was caught after killing X amount of homosexual men and cutting them up,most people in the U.K thought he had done them some kind of service ridding the world of such men,rather than feeling any compassion for the victims at all,thank goodness things have moved on slightly.
@arcadian78 Well I don't know that it was QUITE that bad lol and (ironically given an agressively conservative government) it was then that things really moved on. But you're quite right, it was near impossible to be 'out' at school in 1983, and certainly the tabloids were hysterical about homosexuality. But most people were pretty appalled by Dennis Nielson, if only because most of his victims were in fact hapless straight men and boys. By the 90s, things were better.
@splinterbyrd Well i've never actually heard on the various programmes about Nielson that most of his victims were straight,one that I saw less than a year ago they talked to two guys that managed to survive attacks by him,they were both homosexual and both said how they were vilified by the press for being gay and how the public acted like the guys that had been killed deserved it because they were gay,so im just going by survivors accounts,guys that were actually there.
@arcadian78 google dennis nilsen for the full facts. at lest two of his victims were fathers, another a (straight) teenage runaway, another two were just a couple of ordinary students. I remember it happening; I don't recall ,many of the victims beng vilified, altho regarding nilsen himself the press certainly made much of him being gay
@splinterbyrd PS the father of one of the younger victims stated in interview that it hurt him the way everyone just assumed they were all rent boys or similar, which certainly wasn't true of his own son
Yes, there most certainly is a DVD of The History Boys - the film production with all the original cast of the National Theatre production on London's South Bank. This is a film and theatre show I can watch over, and over, and over and over again - and then some more on top of that. Dominic Cooper aka Dakin like many of the rest of the cast are making big names for themselves in the British theatre and on TV.
I simply love the history boys, they are so bloody cute and funny. I consider them a British classic, no one can beat Britain at their humor!!!Thanks for this vid
MY Girlfriend's favourite film :)
ryanbxbox 3 months ago
I'm in a local production of The History Boys, and I have to see Wish Me Luck... so here I am, enjoying the superb work of Gracie Fields!
Scruffy193 7 months ago
Does anyone know the brand of the satchel/school bag Dakin carries in the film? I've been looking for a proper one and like the look and size of his.
SirJustinRyan84 9 months ago
I am 13 and i recently sang this song will you please take a look , i will place the link above. thank you
lilsaprano123 10 months ago
I could just eat Dakin. What a hottie :-)
bedroomwalls 10 months ago
Interesting movie, but a bit self indulgent of Alan Bennet. The film is set in a comprehensive school in 1983. Most unconvincing is the acceptance of homosexuality. Bennett's school is more like a fifties prep or grammar school. I was in VIth form in a comprehensive in 1983, and I was also gay. I can most definitely assure everyone it wasnt like this, or anything remotely like it.
splinterbyrd 1 year ago 3
@splinterbyrd Thank you! I did wonder, given that I found my later years at school hard myself, and that was in the early years of the 21st century.
EarlZetland 1 year ago
@EarlZetland I recently heard Bennett say he drew some of the teachers from those he had had at school in the fifties. Quite. The whole thing is postwar prep or grammar school, and nothing to do with the eighties. If you were gay in a comp in the socialist seventies you were dead.
I do like some of A.B.'s work (his three best are 'An Englishman Abroad''A Question of Attribution' and 'The Madness of George III', but too much Bennettry is drooling over young guys, or patronising old people.
splinterbyrd 1 year ago
@splinterbyrd its not set in a comprehensive school, its set in a grammar school. sooooooo...
holbeincity 1 year ago
@holbeincity Remind me; is it private or an open-to-all direct-grant grammar? either way it's not a boarding school. Prep schools porobably were a little more civilised at that time, comparatively
splinterbyrd 1 year ago
@splinterbyrd urg i dunno i watched it ages ago. unlikely to be private because of the characters' backgrounds. but i dunno. i have to say though, i think your complaint is a little unfair either way. the whole thing is super-stylized - it's not realism because it isn't supposed to be. its about learning and education and their value, and i don't think that its supplementary presentation of adolescent homosexuality in the 80s should have to be gritty out of necessity.
holbeincity 1 year ago
@splinterbyrd appreciate your points tho. i wouldn't argue that it isn't self-indulgent, but i don't think that precludes quality (and i do think history boys is rather marvellous)
holbeincity 1 year ago
@holbeincity well we'll agree to differ. And I do like alot of AB's work. It's a while since Ive seen History Boys so perhaps I ought to try it again. As I recall, it is certainly well acted, epsecially Frances delaTour and Richard Griffiths. I guess Im always a bit queasy about films I feel claim to be one thing, and are in fact a clothes-horse for something else. Eg. that ghastly film 'Another Country' (not by AB) . Absolutely nothing to recommend it except alot of young men looking pretty.
splinterbyrd 1 year ago
@splinterbyrd
I am fairly sure that the film is set in a grammar school. I agree that it is a little implausible if set in a comprehensive. But anyway it's fiction and intended to identify a different truth.
DrSpamMD 1 year ago
@DrSpamMD Watched it again after we exchanged messages. Nah just doesnt do it for me. If he's trying to say something about the inspiration that's behind good education, he's not doing it v well. Pity, as there's a lot of interesting and politically relevant things one could say about it, no more relevant than in our culture now in which the mystique of learning has all but disappeared. Plus, the actors playing teenage boys are all patently adults. Praps better on stage, tho i doubt it....
splinterbyrd 1 year ago
@splinterbyrd That's quite right,I love the film especially the part when Posner is singing to Dakin but it's true that acceptance of homosexuality on that level wouldn't have existed then,in the early 1980's when Nielson was caught after killing X amount of homosexual men and cutting them up,most people in the U.K thought he had done them some kind of service ridding the world of such men,rather than feeling any compassion for the victims at all,thank goodness things have moved on slightly.
arcadian78 3 weeks ago
@arcadian78 Well I don't know that it was QUITE that bad lol and (ironically given an agressively conservative government) it was then that things really moved on. But you're quite right, it was near impossible to be 'out' at school in 1983, and certainly the tabloids were hysterical about homosexuality. But most people were pretty appalled by Dennis Nielson, if only because most of his victims were in fact hapless straight men and boys. By the 90s, things were better.
splinterbyrd 3 weeks ago
@splinterbyrd Well i've never actually heard on the various programmes about Nielson that most of his victims were straight,one that I saw less than a year ago they talked to two guys that managed to survive attacks by him,they were both homosexual and both said how they were vilified by the press for being gay and how the public acted like the guys that had been killed deserved it because they were gay,so im just going by survivors accounts,guys that were actually there.
arcadian78 3 weeks ago
@arcadian78 google dennis nilsen for the full facts. at lest two of his victims were fathers, another a (straight) teenage runaway, another two were just a couple of ordinary students. I remember it happening; I don't recall ,many of the victims beng vilified, altho regarding nilsen himself the press certainly made much of him being gay
splinterbyrd 3 weeks ago
@splinterbyrd PS the father of one of the younger victims stated in interview that it hurt him the way everyone just assumed they were all rent boys or similar, which certainly wasn't true of his own son
splinterbyrd 3 weeks ago
I love this song, it's so very British. What-ho, chaps.
KingRaven101 1 year ago
can someone please upload this =(....
powerofjujuonweed 1 year ago
dominic cooper. :D
hamhamx3 1 year ago
I love this film so much!
evieeeox 1 year ago
I was lucky enough to play Hector in a local production. I miss seeing the boys and hearing the raucous laughter in the dressing room.
Poop, poop!
jimjimmyjames59 2 years ago
yes there is a lot to learn here
3NUNS 2 years ago 3
I love this film :)
My alltime favorite tbh,
WhatTheIONAAAA 2 years ago 2
Yes, there most certainly is a DVD of The History Boys - the film production with all the original cast of the National Theatre production on London's South Bank. This is a film and theatre show I can watch over, and over, and over and over again - and then some more on top of that. Dominic Cooper aka Dakin like many of the rest of the cast are making big names for themselves in the British theatre and on TV.
Verderer 2 years ago
If you like the film you should see the play by Alan Bennet. It's FANTASTIC The cast of the film were also in the National Theatre production.
Swoot17 2 years ago
is there a dvd of the history boys cuz i would love to watch it..
cool vid! x :D x
xminimicx 2 years ago
lmao i wanna see more dakin please!!! hehe
hottness like that should be illegal :)
i need this movie like a heart needs to beat
xlovelikeasongx 2 years ago
Lol
I may make more!
EarlZetland 2 years ago
uhmm yay?
lol :)
xlovelikeasongx 2 years ago
Lovely video xD
The History Boys is such a good film. So wish I coulda seen the play.
starsdestiny 3 years ago 2
Thank you! It never ceases to amaze me that this little vid of mine has so many views!
EarlZetland 3 years ago
I haven't seen this movie, but Richard Griffiths is a great actor.
theprophet20 2 years ago 2
it's a wonderful clip - a funny, ironic and, ultimately heartbreaking, tribute to a great film - with a heart of gold...
uclrichard 2 years ago
i love the relationship posner has with scripps
kristeenloveset 3 years ago 16
Indeed. It's something that would make a good video!
EarlZetland 3 years ago
I simply love the history boys, they are so bloody cute and funny. I consider them a British classic, no one can beat Britain at their humor!!!Thanks for this vid
briannafreaco 3 years ago 18
Thank you!
EarlZetland 3 years ago