@invesibel After defeating Adachi, and after saying "good-bye" to all your friends, head back to Junes and say you still have unfinished business, you will then find out the true culprit behind everything.
Anyways, always wanted to point this out, at 5:16 - notice how Yuu has both Rise and Yukiko trying to grab his attention. Guess the real cannon "couple" was never there and it was always a cannon "three-way", lmao..
the true culprit is to be inzanami right? and as i know i should say good bye for them at the 20th right so how the hell am i suppose to be able to return to junes after that ? well thanks for info anyway i don't want to get any bad engings at all i hant to feel this game deserves to be played multi times over and over and this true ending is the one i need to get that's again fr the reply
@invesibel Yup, Inzanami. Oh - not the 20th...When you beat the culprit in Dec. you skip time and it will be March. On your last day in march - you will say bye to all the people you had finished Social Links with, and then when you do, head to Junes to the food court. You'll understand once you get to that point. And you're welcome :)
ok thanks for info i rather to play than to read XP btw i'm still in shadow yukiko part ! so finishing the game is still too early for me XD anyway i like to spoil on myself anyway lol ! thanks for the reply
@invesibel Aww man, spoiling yourself on Persona4 is a crime, key to this game is the surprise of who the culprit is xD. But you're welcome, glad I can help. Enjoy Persona.
i know that XP but for some reason my habit is to spoil everything i have ! specially if there was a sad ending i was about to get shadow of the clossus but once i knew about the shitty ending i decided to forget it about games like persona have multi endings i'd like to take the best one of them ! so it was very helpful to spoil on myself ! lol thanks for the reply
See this is why they did make a Persona 4 FES, because they didnt leave anything left undone... At least until the Ultimate in Mayonaka Arena comes out and Teddie makes everyone kill each other in a fighting tournament.
Izanami and Nyx are sorta alike.. they're not really bad guys.. all they want is to fulfill what humans desire consciously and unconsciously.. so everything that happens is what one chooses :)
yeah and I realized that thanks to a video game -_-"
im maybe get critics and "i dont like it" but i think that izanami is right, why seek the true? is a lot easer just close your eyes and pretend that everything is fine, why bother you with some existential question like who are we? or what the heck we're doing here? maybe you dont want to accept that but thats how we are, and i not sayin this stuff cuz i dont laike this game, in fact i love it, but i bet you all feel the same deep insade
@knguro313 Fact is allot of people feel the same way, which is why Izanami is there in the first place, yet at the same time there are people who won't ever accept that and keep pushing forward.
Sure everyone has times of weakness but even then there will be others to help you out, and together you'll be able to find a happiness you can be part of.
@knguro313 All that really happened was that they refused to accept another person's "truth" as their own and fought for their own truth, their own happiness.
I doubt any of them were searching for the meaning of life or anything, they were just fighting for what the believed in, and that was their "truth". A truth that they refused to let be clouded over by someone else beliefs.
Every human fights for that I think, least every human that pushes forward. That's the whole point of the story.
@Shuroi yeah, that can work if you wanna be Miss Universe... there's no point to fight, everybody reach to the same end, some of them maybe can be remember for all the eternity in a history book, but if you're die, you're die and even if you as been a hero or a serial killer, there's no way back, thats my point, just enjoy life, ask no question, and again enjoy
@knguro313 That really depends on what you believe happens after you die however. Some people believe there is nothing, some people believe you will be judged.
However even setting that aside, your ideals on this are somewhat skewered, there is the saying "just be content with what you have" true, but that is usually reserved for people who actually HAVE something to begin with. Going by your ideals, no one should care if someone got killed, or if someone died or anything. They'd just be empty.
@Shuroi exactly, inside, nobody cares about the people around, is just a facade, as you say everybody fight for what they want, or believe, but is useless, im in the rock bottom, i can go even deeper, i dont have goals, and i dont have dreams, so dont say that i got something, im empty, and that works for me, if you dont go up you cant fall, and i never say someting about "just be content with what you have" im triyin to say enjoy every single moment, just take care of you, because youre alone
@Shuroi even if you erase your comment i can read it, i know you already notice that, so why? but thats right, thats why im sayin you enjoy life, im not stupid so i dont gonna try to kill myself, i just, waiting, living, triyin to... nothing, just waiting as you say, but im not sad, i'll never be sad, im just as always id be, and im feel fine, you cant understand me now, with your childish look at life, about chaseing your dreams, but sooner or later, your going to realize, that im right
@knguro313 I didn't erase my comment, I just deleted the old and posted again cause I messed up the @ link. You may not be sad, but you're not happy either and you never will be going on like that.
My views are hardly childish, and I understand these things because I have already experienced both extremes for myself. What it's like to want nothing and have nothing, and what it is like to chase after something. You didn't kill yourself cause you are not stupid? I didn't cause I was afraid.
@Shuroi afraid of what? there's nothing to be afraid about death, is completly natural, im not sad, and that's enought to be happy, i dont need nobody, i can do anything on my own
@knguro313 Hardly convincing from someone who can't even understand why people fight for happiness and want to live.
Have you actually ever faced hardships? Not the "I'm so unlucky" sort of hardships but the kind where you're powerless and end up ruining the lives of people. Have you ever actually faced death? Like been in an accident where you nearly died? It's not about what comes after, it's about what you're leaving behind.
Then again, if you have nothing to live for as you claim.
@Shuroi leaving behind... why living in the past like this? you dont need to think about that, you can think about that but you cant change it, nobody can... I cant.... i never face death. well not directly, but your not answering my cuestion neither, what are you afreid from? even if you have something to live, and if you get it, then what your gonna do? whats the reason of fight, even if you get to the top eventually your going to fall, and is less painful if you already are in the bottom
@generic120 you know, if you dont talk me first, i dont answer, so why do you try to shut me if im not talking? and you shouldn't get into grow mens talk little girl, at least try to learn how to read first "im not stupid so i dont gonna try to kill myself" i guess thats isn't enought for you, because you're a damm retarded, lets say that you win if you dont answer this question: are you a damm retarded? but if you say "yes" or "not" i dont care which one, your going to be a retarded anyway
@knguro313 Lulz. Cause grown men obviously throw around insults. Shuroi is a grown man. You aren't. You're not stupid enough to kill yourself? Most people aren't. Same time most people don't say they aren't afraid of death.
You're just afraid to kill yourself and nothing you say will disprove that until you kill yourself. Don't bother replying and go wallow in your little emo corner where no one loves you. Or you could get yourself on the news story as a suicide victim. And then I'll laugh.
@generic120 sorry, you dont even know me, so you cant say nothing about me, this is your moment, if you wanna say somting do it cause i dont gonna answer, because your not intersting
@knguro313 When you're down a well the only way you can look is up, cause all around you is darkness, even if you close your eyes you'll still see it every now and then.
There are things I want to experience, people I want to be with I'm afraid of loosing all that, that is why I am afraid of dying. I know it will eventually happen one day that is why I'm living, so that when I do die I won't be afraid, least that is what I hope for.
Better to have loved and lost then never to have loved at all.
@knguro313 Sorry about the late reply. It's not living in the past, it'll be in the past once you're dead but right now it's the present.
I'm afraid of allot of things, hurting people, loosing hope. I'm not afraid of dying however, I sometimes am afraid of what will happen if my hopes are dashed but not enough to give up hope, cause that is allot more painful. I've already lived that way once, I don't want to again if I can help it.
@Shuroi afraid of hurting people? why? sorry but and dont understand that though, why are you afraid of hurting people? is that people more important to you that yourself? i just dont get it, why somebody can thing that other people life is more important that his own? is kinda silly, if you die you lose everything, but thats isnt a problem cause after die you have nothing, so you dont remember, so, why put the rest of the world first? you're on your own
@knguro313 I don't put the rest of the world first, but there are people and things that are important to me, we are alone, but that's why we want to reach out to something.
I have to believe that someone in the world needs me as much as I need them, I have to have something important to me. I live for myself, but also for that at the same time.
I told you before, I've already been where you are.
@Shuroi i see... so yor way to confront the world is have someone important to live for? i guess we're way too diferent, the people around bother me, they ask stupid questions like how do you feel? or how was your day? why they want to now that? the most people in the world is stupid, so i want them far away from me
@knguro313 Even a plant has direction, a self found purpose, are you saying you don't? A person who exists like that has nothing, and so can never be happy. There is no enjoyment, there is no happiness, there is just emptiness and distractions.
If I am understanding you right, then all you are is someone waiting to die.
@knguro313 searching for the answers of the questions of what. why, when, where, who and how, might seem pointless and painful, in fact the truth is always painful, but we humas can transform that pain into power, spirit, courage, asking ourselves those quoestions is what makes it possible to enjoy life. Let me tell you we all are destine to tragedy, for that is waht the death is, but we don´t die when our hearts stop beating, we die when we are forgotten, that´s why you cant put people away.
"Upon Izanami's defeat, Izanami exclaims that she will not interfere with humanity anymore. She encourages them to live and face their own decisions, but cannot guarantee their happiness, and fades away.
Despite Izanami's antagonistic nature, she truly wishes for humanity's happiness, as evident that she later congratulates the Investigation Team for discovering the truth, as well as defeating her."
Igor:.. the fog of lies prevented you from moving forth...
Me: Igor, don´t give me that sh*t. I know you screwed up my fusion of LUCIFER on PURPOSE! Don´t blame the weather for you not being able to mix some cards with monsters and give me adventage in the game.... (ΘεΘ;)... Just accept it, like I did...
And because Souji lifted the fog from everyone's hearts as well, then that means people no longer wish for death, meaning that Nyx is no longer going to come and Minato can be released from the Great Seal! Thus setting the story for Persona 5!
@naotoshirogane1 Yet, that would seem like if everything became a paradise just by lifting the fog, so what would the story be about? Anyways I think that the main charcater would have to be a new one, what would be the point having an already developed character that has already reached his answer to life hardships as a main char?... Well unless they try something different, P2 had an actual sequel after all, though the main char role changed too. Lets just wait and see
if i were one of them, i'll panic and scream "where the hell the exit tv to JUNES??" hahaha.. its just too odd that they were at the middle of river when the fog is lifted
ya no im still playing this game and im only on the part where you have to safe naoto and im wondering what should i do more level up or social link because i wanna get the true ending like this but i dont know
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Wait, so Izanami was preventing people from realising their true selves? And with her defeat, her power left and everyone can realise their true potential? Am I right?
WAIT, SHIT, WHAT ABOUT THE CRAZY PEOPLE WHO ENJOY KILLING BUT REPRESSED IT? NOW THAT THEY REALISE THEY ENJOY PAIN OF OTHERS - CRAP. I think the P4 team just made more problems than it tried to solve...
damn i wish atlus will release a next persona game continuing this and the third's story and both the MC can stay in the place and minato can be revived and have a happy ending coz from what i've seen(3 and4) persona game usually doesn't have a really good ending :(
After the incident of p4, the protagonist was asked by elizabeth to help her to rescue P3's protagonist. She realized that in order for her to rescue him, she need someone with the power of Universe to undo the seal of Nyx and defeat Nyx once and for all, this time with two wild card users and 2 universe arcana users. As story goes on players will be able to control these 2 wild card users.
man what are you saying to get the true ending make sure that you talked to the charts that you have already maxed the social link before you leave ok????Do it and you won't regret it if i am wrong say it to me
when you're about to leave the town and you said goodbye to all of your friends (max social links) you have to try to get to the junes food court, itwill say that you don't have anything to do there... yo say no... you must try again, and then you will see an animation and well... you'll figure out wht you have to do after that
Ya know I noticed...other than Rise, Yukiko likes being around MC a lot. Like in 3:18 and during the times you sit at a large table or something, she sits beside him if not Chie.
Mmm do not think so, I would say it is very difficult to unite all the sagas in 1 single, is more likely to join the first or the last quarter with SMT P5.
I think we will soon a video with a little info P5
Maybe the point of P4 is that stop covering your world with imagination and illusion of things you want to see. Instead, look into the truth, accept the fact, and work the situation into something that you wish for, since denying won't be an answer, but running away.
And... don't u think P4 is focusing more on the bonds? It really felt like they were my real friends XDD
Guys, In an article (Play magazine? Dunno but P4 was cover page) The creator said the blue color in P3 represents adolescence, while yellow in P4 represents happiness. When going through adolescent years, one will grow and mature, while feeling pain of change and seeing things that one cannot avoid, hence the theme of Death. While in P4, seeking truth when facing in a sea of lies and deceit, that is journey that all humans go through, to seek happiness and the bonds one makes with others.
Yeah, i know what you mean. I guess it really did more good then the P3 protagonist. He really was the only one would could get the other charcters persona's out. But the thing i didn't like about P3 was the gun to head thing to summon the persona. Are the like trying to show sucide or somthing.
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*Facepalm*
Yes. Yes they are. P3 was all about the theme of death, and that deep in everyone's heads people crave it, and the Evokers were the main symbols of that theme.
And since when does having the other characters being a bunch of helpless fish who can't solve their own problems in the game make anything better? I swear, this game loves to cram friendship down our throat, while P3's characters were more realistic in that they could solve their biggest problems on their own.
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I agree. From watching LL's series, I can only feel these characters are flat. The only development they gain is through their shadows, which is cheap and gimmicky. Very shallow characters.
That's only if you just take things at face value. When you, I don't know, look deeper into it, the developers made it that way to gel with the theme of death. In fact, the whole deal with "exploiting fear" and having it that way for Akihiko to join SEES was really just an excuse so that they could put in that symbol of death.
...P3's WORLD persona signified an end. P4's WORLD persona went beyond the end of this cycle and signified a new journey's beginning? Huh. That having been said, I really can't help but think P4's protagonist did more good than the P3 MC no matter how many times I think.
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No.
P3's MC/Minato Arisato's Arcana was Death, which signifies change in its simplest form. Minato basically ends his life and the Dark Hour, and after the events in the Answer, P3's cast went on with their normal lives, never to have to deal with that stuff again. In P4, the Backside of the T.V. turns into Happy Fairy Joy Land, and Teddie says himself that things might go wrong again. P3 had a much more fulfilling ending, with P4 clinging to a more cliched ending.
I'm not really that far into P3 yet (I'm almost up to the Hermit), but explain Thanatos then. Didn't Aigis seal Death in the MC? Even if its artificial, he's still the Death Arcanum too. And he also has to be Judgement, since Messiah looks a lot like him and is alike to him in meaning.
I think because he is the "Fool", he has the inherent characteristics of all Arcana (limitless possiblities), which in turn, allows him to wield all of the Arcana. I think his main are Fool (his intial), Judgement (His character is based on the "Messiah") and the World.
Yes, but he also must be "Death" too. Even if he wasn't meant to be that way from the beginning, if Aigis sealed "Death" in him; and that manifests itself as Thanatos, which is one of the MC's storyline Personae, the MC would have to be "Death" too.
.... Do you even know what Death symbolizes? Change in its essence. If anything, the fact that he's Death would compliment his Fool and make him better at changing Personae than the P4 MC. And when you look at it that way, its obvious that he's also Judgement.
Death, even though it was forcefully sealed in him, is still one of his Arcana. If you put a dollar in a box, said box now has a dollar in it, right?
p3's mc was fool, death was the thanatos and the little boy, the pc wasnt death, thanatos was just sealed inside him, and judgment is the entire SEES group ^^"
Whoops, didn't notice that typo. I forgot to say "one of" and "other."
Let me clarify what I'm trying to say here:
P3's MC was the Fool because.... he's the MC. That was a given, so I didn't mention it.
MC's other Arcana were Death and Judgement, because Aigis sealed Death, in the form of Thanatos inside of him. He is also Judgement because of Messiah, one of his Personae, that looks suspiciously like him and shares his role in Jewish mythology with the MC being a Messiah in the story itself.
something has been nagging me since i first heard Izanami's english voice... is Karen Strassman (voice of Aigis in P3 and Nanako in P4) Izanami's english VA?
Message of Persona 3: Memento Mori/All things must come to an end. (life)
Message of Persona 4: Ignorance is NOT bliss/It's best to face the truth.
HeyItsMeAgain94 1 week ago
who is the driver in the velvet room? nanashi?
multimang0steen 4 weeks ago
So... now Hiro comes and FIRE'IN HIS MEGIDOLAON!!!
krackothunder 1 month ago
how can you get this ending ?
invesibel 2 months ago
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BrolyLSSJ1987 2 months ago
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@invesibel you have to defeat the hidden boss izanami at the end
BrolyLSSJ1987 2 months ago
@invesibel After defeating Adachi, and after saying "good-bye" to all your friends, head back to Junes and say you still have unfinished business, you will then find out the true culprit behind everything.
Anyways, always wanted to point this out, at 5:16 - notice how Yuu has both Rise and Yukiko trying to grab his attention. Guess the real cannon "couple" was never there and it was always a cannon "three-way", lmao..
BassistTri 2 months ago
the true culprit is to be inzanami right? and as i know i should say good bye for them at the 20th right so how the hell am i suppose to be able to return to junes after that ? well thanks for info anyway i don't want to get any bad engings at all i hant to feel this game deserves to be played multi times over and over and this true ending is the one i need to get that's again fr the reply
invesibel 2 months ago
@invesibel Yup, Inzanami. Oh - not the 20th...When you beat the culprit in Dec. you skip time and it will be March. On your last day in march - you will say bye to all the people you had finished Social Links with, and then when you do, head to Junes to the food court. You'll understand once you get to that point. And you're welcome :)
BassistTri 2 months ago
ok thanks for info i rather to play than to read XP btw i'm still in shadow yukiko part ! so finishing the game is still too early for me XD anyway i like to spoil on myself anyway lol ! thanks for the reply
invesibel 2 months ago
@invesibel Aww man, spoiling yourself on Persona4 is a crime, key to this game is the surprise of who the culprit is xD. But you're welcome, glad I can help. Enjoy Persona.
BassistTri 2 months ago
i know that XP but for some reason my habit is to spoil everything i have ! specially if there was a sad ending i was about to get shadow of the clossus but once i knew about the shitty ending i decided to forget it about games like persona have multi endings i'd like to take the best one of them ! so it was very helpful to spoil on myself ! lol thanks for the reply
invesibel 2 months ago
why does teddie's mouth not open when he talks
MNamikaze101 3 months ago
@MNamikaze101 He's one hell of a ventriloquist. :'D
bloomacncheez 3 months ago
@bloomacncheez u got that right
MNamikaze101 3 months ago
@MNamikaze101
because he has his human body inside the teddie suit.... duh lol
dragonrain05 2 months ago
@dragonrain05 but then why can he move his mouth to make expressions?
MNamikaze101 2 months ago
Izanami: Wouldn't it be easier to wrap oneself in lies and live in blissful ignorance?
That didn't work for the last Persona cast, so why would we do it now? >:C
bloomacncheez 3 months ago 3
Its sort of like Izanami was ok with her defeat
marth186 3 months ago
See this is why they did make a Persona 4 FES, because they didnt leave anything left undone... At least until the Ultimate in Mayonaka Arena comes out and Teddie makes everyone kill each other in a fighting tournament.
DanteMoradis 4 months ago
i crieed at 4:58 the song is a masterpiece!! its the most beatifullest song, EVER!!
animegamesbiggestfan 5 months ago
@animegamesbiggestfan paradisical!!!
Hedgehog3342 5 months ago
Izanami and Nyx are sorta alike.. they're not really bad guys.. all they want is to fulfill what humans desire consciously and unconsciously.. so everything that happens is what one chooses :)
yeah and I realized that thanks to a video game -_-"
kaede11x 8 months ago
im maybe get critics and "i dont like it" but i think that izanami is right, why seek the true? is a lot easer just close your eyes and pretend that everything is fine, why bother you with some existential question like who are we? or what the heck we're doing here? maybe you dont want to accept that but thats how we are, and i not sayin this stuff cuz i dont laike this game, in fact i love it, but i bet you all feel the same deep insade
knguro313 9 months ago
@knguro313 Fact is allot of people feel the same way, which is why Izanami is there in the first place, yet at the same time there are people who won't ever accept that and keep pushing forward.
Sure everyone has times of weakness but even then there will be others to help you out, and together you'll be able to find a happiness you can be part of.
Cont.
Shuroi 8 months ago
@knguro313 All that really happened was that they refused to accept another person's "truth" as their own and fought for their own truth, their own happiness.
I doubt any of them were searching for the meaning of life or anything, they were just fighting for what the believed in, and that was their "truth". A truth that they refused to let be clouded over by someone else beliefs.
Every human fights for that I think, least every human that pushes forward. That's the whole point of the story.
Shuroi 8 months ago
@Shuroi yeah, that can work if you wanna be Miss Universe... there's no point to fight, everybody reach to the same end, some of them maybe can be remember for all the eternity in a history book, but if you're die, you're die and even if you as been a hero or a serial killer, there's no way back, thats my point, just enjoy life, ask no question, and again enjoy
knguro313 8 months ago
@knguro313 That really depends on what you believe happens after you die however. Some people believe there is nothing, some people believe you will be judged.
However even setting that aside, your ideals on this are somewhat skewered, there is the saying "just be content with what you have" true, but that is usually reserved for people who actually HAVE something to begin with. Going by your ideals, no one should care if someone got killed, or if someone died or anything. They'd just be empty.
Shuroi 8 months ago
@Shuroi exactly, inside, nobody cares about the people around, is just a facade, as you say everybody fight for what they want, or believe, but is useless, im in the rock bottom, i can go even deeper, i dont have goals, and i dont have dreams, so dont say that i got something, im empty, and that works for me, if you dont go up you cant fall, and i never say someting about "just be content with what you have" im triyin to say enjoy every single moment, just take care of you, because youre alone
knguro313 8 months ago
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Shuroi 8 months ago
@Shuroi even if you erase your comment i can read it, i know you already notice that, so why? but thats right, thats why im sayin you enjoy life, im not stupid so i dont gonna try to kill myself, i just, waiting, living, triyin to... nothing, just waiting as you say, but im not sad, i'll never be sad, im just as always id be, and im feel fine, you cant understand me now, with your childish look at life, about chaseing your dreams, but sooner or later, your going to realize, that im right
knguro313 8 months ago
@knguro313 I didn't erase my comment, I just deleted the old and posted again cause I messed up the @ link. You may not be sad, but you're not happy either and you never will be going on like that.
My views are hardly childish, and I understand these things because I have already experienced both extremes for myself. What it's like to want nothing and have nothing, and what it is like to chase after something. You didn't kill yourself cause you are not stupid? I didn't cause I was afraid.
Shuroi 8 months ago
@Shuroi afraid of what? there's nothing to be afraid about death, is completly natural, im not sad, and that's enought to be happy, i dont need nobody, i can do anything on my own
knguro313 8 months ago
@knguro313 Hardly convincing from someone who can't even understand why people fight for happiness and want to live.
Have you actually ever faced hardships? Not the "I'm so unlucky" sort of hardships but the kind where you're powerless and end up ruining the lives of people. Have you ever actually faced death? Like been in an accident where you nearly died? It's not about what comes after, it's about what you're leaving behind.
Then again, if you have nothing to live for as you claim.
Shuroi 8 months ago
@Shuroi leaving behind... why living in the past like this? you dont need to think about that, you can think about that but you cant change it, nobody can... I cant.... i never face death. well not directly, but your not answering my cuestion neither, what are you afreid from? even if you have something to live, and if you get it, then what your gonna do? whats the reason of fight, even if you get to the top eventually your going to fall, and is less painful if you already are in the bottom
knguro313 8 months ago
@knguro313 Then shut up and go kill yourself please seeing as you aparantly have nothing to live for and you aren't afraid of death.
generic120 8 months ago
@generic120 you know, if you dont talk me first, i dont answer, so why do you try to shut me if im not talking? and you shouldn't get into grow mens talk little girl, at least try to learn how to read first "im not stupid so i dont gonna try to kill myself" i guess thats isn't enought for you, because you're a damm retarded, lets say that you win if you dont answer this question: are you a damm retarded? but if you say "yes" or "not" i dont care which one, your going to be a retarded anyway
knguro313 7 months ago
@knguro313 Lulz. Cause grown men obviously throw around insults. Shuroi is a grown man. You aren't. You're not stupid enough to kill yourself? Most people aren't. Same time most people don't say they aren't afraid of death.
You're just afraid to kill yourself and nothing you say will disprove that until you kill yourself. Don't bother replying and go wallow in your little emo corner where no one loves you. Or you could get yourself on the news story as a suicide victim. And then I'll laugh.
generic120 7 months ago
@generic120 sorry, you dont even know me, so you cant say nothing about me, this is your moment, if you wanna say somting do it cause i dont gonna answer, because your not intersting
knguro313 7 months ago
@knguro313 Okay then please don't reply back. Go back to wallowing in your little corner by yourself.
generic120 7 months ago
@knguro313 When you're down a well the only way you can look is up, cause all around you is darkness, even if you close your eyes you'll still see it every now and then.
There are things I want to experience, people I want to be with I'm afraid of loosing all that, that is why I am afraid of dying. I know it will eventually happen one day that is why I'm living, so that when I do die I won't be afraid, least that is what I hope for.
Better to have loved and lost then never to have loved at all.
Shuroi 7 months ago
@knguro313 Sorry about the late reply. It's not living in the past, it'll be in the past once you're dead but right now it's the present.
I'm afraid of allot of things, hurting people, loosing hope. I'm not afraid of dying however, I sometimes am afraid of what will happen if my hopes are dashed but not enough to give up hope, cause that is allot more painful. I've already lived that way once, I don't want to again if I can help it.
Shuroi 7 months ago
@Shuroi afraid of hurting people? why? sorry but and dont understand that though, why are you afraid of hurting people? is that people more important to you that yourself? i just dont get it, why somebody can thing that other people life is more important that his own? is kinda silly, if you die you lose everything, but thats isnt a problem cause after die you have nothing, so you dont remember, so, why put the rest of the world first? you're on your own
knguro313 7 months ago
@knguro313 I don't put the rest of the world first, but there are people and things that are important to me, we are alone, but that's why we want to reach out to something.
I have to believe that someone in the world needs me as much as I need them, I have to have something important to me. I live for myself, but also for that at the same time.
I told you before, I've already been where you are.
Shuroi 7 months ago
@Shuroi i see... so yor way to confront the world is have someone important to live for? i guess we're way too diferent, the people around bother me, they ask stupid questions like how do you feel? or how was your day? why they want to now that? the most people in the world is stupid, so i want them far away from me
knguro313 7 months ago
@knguro313 People are stupid, a person, not necessarily so.
Shuroi 7 months ago
@Shuroi thats what i mean with most
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@knguro313 Even a plant has direction, a self found purpose, are you saying you don't? A person who exists like that has nothing, and so can never be happy. There is no enjoyment, there is no happiness, there is just emptiness and distractions.
If I am understanding you right, then all you are is someone waiting to die.
Shuroi 8 months ago
@knguro313 it´ll be as if you never existed if you do that. (ran out of letters in the first message, hahaha XP)
sonofrose 3 months ago
@knguro313 searching for the answers of the questions of what. why, when, where, who and how, might seem pointless and painful, in fact the truth is always painful, but we humas can transform that pain into power, spirit, courage, asking ourselves those quoestions is what makes it possible to enjoy life. Let me tell you we all are destine to tragedy, for that is waht the death is, but we don´t die when our hearts stop beating, we die when we are forgotten, that´s why you cant put people away.
sonofrose 3 months ago
Yukiko: So, this is the world inside people's hearts?
MC: I guess we turned the Midnight Channel into the Discovery Channel!
*ba-dum-tish*
BluntmanEXE 9 months ago 2
"Upon Izanami's defeat, Izanami exclaims that she will not interfere with humanity anymore. She encourages them to live and face their own decisions, but cannot guarantee their happiness, and fades away.
Despite Izanami's antagonistic nature, she truly wishes for humanity's happiness, as evident that she later congratulates the Investigation Team for discovering the truth, as well as defeating her."
- MegamiTensei Wiki
nabililman 11 months ago
@3:29
Igor:.. the fog of lies prevented you from moving forth...
Me: Igor, don´t give me that sh*t. I know you screwed up my fusion of LUCIFER on PURPOSE! Don´t blame the weather for you not being able to mix some cards with monsters and give me adventage in the game.... (ΘεΘ;)... Just accept it, like I did...
ToMuchRandom 11 months ago
its truly me can't know we fighting the izanagi after adachi lost
mior1 11 months ago
just watching this and how MasterLL get izanagi-no-okami kinda makes me wanna cry ( im new to P4)
louischristian1994 1 year ago
And because Souji lifted the fog from everyone's hearts as well, then that means people no longer wish for death, meaning that Nyx is no longer going to come and Minato can be released from the Great Seal! Thus setting the story for Persona 5!
...OH, HOW I WISH SO MUCH...
naotoshirogane1 1 year ago 16
@naotoshirogane1 hopefully! :D
TalkingFoxGoddess 1 year ago
@naotoshirogane1 Yet, that would seem like if everything became a paradise just by lifting the fog, so what would the story be about? Anyways I think that the main charcater would have to be a new one, what would be the point having an already developed character that has already reached his answer to life hardships as a main char?... Well unless they try something different, P2 had an actual sequel after all, though the main char role changed too. Lets just wait and see
buntado6 9 months ago
@naotoshirogane1 ...don't we all?
Eweiit 3 months ago
@naotoshirogane1 According to Margaret, Elizabeth went somewhere to release Minato.
albelcrowley 3 months ago
@naotoshirogane1 Pfft Everyone knows persona 5 will be the Protagonists of 1,2,3,4 Teaming up to kick Nyatharlotep's ass
OmegaChosen0 1 month ago
Izanami: And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids and your stupid bear!
neoshenlong 1 year ago 43
@neoshenlong XXXXDDDD amazing sir or lady!!!!!!!!!!!
TalkingFoxGoddess 1 year ago
@neoshenlong
Teddie: IM NOT A STUPID BEAR! BEAR-SONA!
(kills izanami.)
Master: Holy fucking shit! come yourself, geez...
leishify 4 months ago
Kanji: We did it?
Master: We? In the battle, you guys were scared and ran off! I had to fight her myself!!!
utopiapro007 1 year ago
IZANAMI IS HOT
fritosito 1 year ago
if i were one of them, i'll panic and scream "where the hell the exit tv to JUNES??" hahaha.. its just too odd that they were at the middle of river when the fog is lifted
kurnia1997 1 year ago
i still dont trust that igor bastard he looks 2 evil to be good
hiddenleafgod 1 year ago
@hiddenleafgod yeah, if you grow up playin games like legend of zelda or that kind of stuff the big noses and ears make that effect
knguro313 9 months ago
igor is like Montgomery Burns xD
Raigalq2 1 year ago
at 4.58 is it never more the piano version or another song can anybody tell me
EmoKress 1 year ago
It's rare you defeat a final boss and get directly congradulated by them as they fade
Gigaspine7 1 year ago 4
ya no im still playing this game and im only on the part where you have to safe naoto and im wondering what should i do more level up or social link because i wanna get the true ending like this but i dont know
revalutionre2k9 1 year ago
children of man...... well done......
:'( that's so touching
brianMathew1 2 years ago
ooh Seta...i love you more than Minato...
avrilfantasyrin 2 years ago
@avrilfantasyrin No way! Minato is so much better then Souji. Minato sacrificed his life to seal away Erebus and Nyx. That is a lot more badass.
MarikotehPuppeh 2 years ago
i still love Seta more,....and i still don't know why...
avrilfantasyrin 2 years ago
@MarikotehPuppeh creating and saving world..sigh..maybe they will not choose Seta for mc in Persona 5...sigh..
avrilfantasyrin 1 year ago
@MarikotehPuppeh if u know..um if u know..do u know why Seta didn't see any blue butterfly? if u know tell me,i'm dying to know..
avrilfantasyrin 1 year ago
@avrilfantasyrin Umm the save POINT
isn't the Blue butterfly is the save point
and it also means the philemon healp souji to his journey
yangabernard1 1 year ago
@yangabernard1 it means i wanna see philemon lol
avrilfantasyrin 1 year ago
ooh,i want to save Minato so much please make it happen...
avrilfantasyrin 2 years ago
i like P4's ending because no one dies unless it was a bad ending well what ever.. Hurray! they did it! :D
swtlilcherry 2 years ago 2
Children of man.
DarthMeg 2 years ago
Well Done!
(This line is so epic it needs 2 boxes.)
DarthMeg 2 years ago
My god.
Izanami, the one behind all this, the murders, and EVERYTHING. Congratulated us...
Makes you wonder though?
Flamedramon6 2 years ago
P4 True ending is beautiful
rever98 2 years ago 2
No, you're right. xD
readysteadygodisney 2 years ago
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Wait, so Izanami was preventing people from realising their true selves? And with her defeat, her power left and everyone can realise their true potential? Am I right?
WAIT, SHIT, WHAT ABOUT THE CRAZY PEOPLE WHO ENJOY KILLING BUT REPRESSED IT? NOW THAT THEY REALISE THEY ENJOY PAIN OF OTHERS - CRAP. I think the P4 team just made more problems than it tried to solve...
HMiste 2 years ago
the hell you talking about???
ITidusVaanI 2 years ago
d: You know, i love the Persona Series, Especially 3 and 4. But, they need a Girl MC, that'df be fun.
KimaSora 2 years ago 6
i agree :]]
OMGCourt 2 years ago
And, they will. :)
H536917 2 years ago
damn i wish atlus will release a next persona game continuing this and the third's story and both the MC can stay in the place and minato can be revived and have a happy ending coz from what i've seen(3 and4) persona game usually doesn't have a really good ending :(
adiismyname24 2 years ago
i bet that 4's mc talks his parents into leting him come back, after of, 4 lives.
Sara595 2 years ago
No. Just no. Their stories have been told, leave them be
SparktheHedgehog 2 years ago 11
Yup...I can't hold my tears to watch the ending T.T
priestess29mea 2 years ago
Imagine,
After the incident of p4, the protagonist was asked by elizabeth to help her to rescue P3's protagonist. She realized that in order for her to rescue him, she need someone with the power of Universe to undo the seal of Nyx and defeat Nyx once and for all, this time with two wild card users and 2 universe arcana users. As story goes on players will be able to control these 2 wild card users.
Sounds too good to be true doesn't it?
Lets call it Persona:REUNION.
aauru 2 years ago 6
i REALLY wish that could happen its gonna be FUCKIN EPIC xD
adiismyname24 2 years ago
YEAHH!!!!!!!!
avrilfantasyrin 2 years ago
at 3:00 was that the power of the universe like in Persona 3
shfsfgsfgdf 2 years ago
guys can i ask sumthing??
can i still have the true ending if i haven't maxed everyone's s.link?
FonsII03 2 years ago
man what are you saying to get the true ending make sure that you talked to the charts that you have already maxed the social link before you leave ok????Do it and you won't regret it if i am wrong say it to me
MsPersona4 2 years ago
i allready finished it with true ending due ^^..
this beeyotch is easy if u use luci XD
but the true ending is still pretty sad ..
FonsII03 2 years ago
yes but u can only ask the pplz u and formed a maxed social link with
Latatyonna 2 years ago
Yes.
VladCantSleep 2 years ago
i am gonna cry :))
juredddd 2 years ago
when this scene come?
i've finished the game but still don get izanagi no okami...
gibihakkasy 2 years ago
when you're about to leave the town and you said goodbye to all of your friends (max social links) you have to try to get to the junes food court, itwill say that you don't have anything to do there... yo say no... you must try again, and then you will see an animation and well... you'll figure out wht you have to do after that
good luck!
goldsaint89 2 years ago
I make a video of P5 XD, see it.
showdown2008 2 years ago
So the ultimate truth is that Teddy really is a bear living in the woods?
unknown145 2 years ago 4
liar, Rise sounds like a micky mouse japanese girl in japanese, but in english, it sounds sexy and Kous voice does not match in Japanese, ect
tuptunip 2 years ago 4
just do what u gotta do. don't lie. don't pretend to be someone. BE YOURSLEF!
TARAMANUSIATAMPAN 2 years ago 23
@TARAMANUSIATAMPAN betul,betul,betul
coolzzzkocak 1 year ago
Ya know I noticed...other than Rise, Yukiko likes being around MC a lot. Like in 3:18 and during the times you sit at a large table or something, she sits beside him if not Chie.
kitsunehanyou09 2 years ago 3
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this is even more corny than what capcom comes up with.
still an awesome game though
legendaryhero123 3 years ago
Is so good game, but I prefer persona 3 FES.
showdown2008 3 years ago
FES though what if they made a Persona 4 CARnival
tuptunip 2 years ago
you think you will get a sequel to the P4 as well as they did with the P3?
showdown2008 2 years ago
hopefully, in normal i like P4 more than P3, but i like P4 and P3FES tied, but if P4 CAR comes out, it wins
tuptunip 2 years ago
I think a sequel will not P4, although P4 is good P3 FES is just as good.
What I like most of P3 FES is history, and the P4 was the form of the game and the scenarios that were more dynamic.
Both games have their pros and cons, but I hope to get the P5 with the best features of each.
showdown2008 2 years ago
what if P5 is leading to the 'false' ending of P4
link it to 21st December 2012
that could work
sdbegotist 2 years ago
You say it might be the termination of P4on P5??, but I do not think is for 2012.
I think they will get to market soon, since it should take about 2 years to produce, so I think in mid-2010 we will see the first images of the P5.
showdown2008 2 years ago
yeah your right
but do you think that at some point it will tie in to the original SMT games, including Nocturne
sdbegotist 2 years ago
Mmm do not think so, I would say it is very difficult to unite all the sagas in 1 single, is more likely to join the first or the last quarter with SMT P5.
I think we will soon a video with a little info P5
showdown2008 2 years ago
ok that might work
sdbegotist 2 years ago
*sob* so beautiful
P3Persona 3 years ago
man. the creAtor of persona is one kick ass maker
powerd 3 years ago
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how to unlock the true endiiinggg??
davin091 3 years ago
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DON'T KILL NAMATAME!!
KeiChanPapu 3 years ago
I got a crappy foggy ending that way.
HAOzbirn 3 years ago
You HAVE to follow the FAQ. If you followed it you WON'T kill him. so I am right. so what's wrong with it what I said? T.T
KeiChanPapu 3 years ago
N-nothing never mind...
Its ok. ^.^;;
HAOzbirn 3 years ago
no problem :D
KeiChanPapu 3 years ago
Imo, the main subject for P3 was that no matter what death is coming, but in P4 the subject is enjoy life. Can someone please correct me if I'm wrong
iherduliekmudkips69 3 years ago
I think you're pretty close to right.
P3 is about the inevitability of death, but that you shouldn't fear it, and to live your life to the fullest instead.
P4 is a bit harder to place, lol.
Something like.. Don't deny the real world or yourself, and accept it whether it's good or bad, instead of giving in to lying to yourself.
PKScorpy 3 years ago 6
Yea, I guess u're right.
Maybe the point of P4 is that stop covering your world with imagination and illusion of things you want to see. Instead, look into the truth, accept the fact, and work the situation into something that you wish for, since denying won't be an answer, but running away.
And... don't u think P4 is focusing more on the bonds? It really felt like they were my real friends XDD
EshtarWind 3 years ago 11
Oh kewl.
This proves that M rated RPGs teach life lessons. :D
supermasterlinkx123 3 years ago 3
Yeah. "Lol, you're so real. Let's have virtual sekz nao."
D:
MmSTM 3 years ago
wow...you're good with words...i wish i was like that...
avrilfantasyrin 2 years ago
izanami voice sounds like aigis
Luemakciba 3 years ago
Same VA. She also does Nanako.
RevRayCool 3 years ago
Guys, In an article (Play magazine? Dunno but P4 was cover page) The creator said the blue color in P3 represents adolescence, while yellow in P4 represents happiness. When going through adolescent years, one will grow and mature, while feeling pain of change and seeing things that one cannot avoid, hence the theme of Death. While in P4, seeking truth when facing in a sea of lies and deceit, that is journey that all humans go through, to seek happiness and the bonds one makes with others.
Shadowz596 3 years ago
It's all according to the original legend
The Messiah died to bring mankind salvation.
Izanagi on the other hand, overcame his past, became a deity and ushered a new beginning.
The word "okami" itself is a title. It's made of the kanji that represents great and god.
When Izanagi becomes Izanagi no Okami it's not just a name change.
lohengrin123 3 years ago
Yeah, i know what you mean. I guess it really did more good then the P3 protagonist. He really was the only one would could get the other charcters persona's out. But the thing i didn't like about P3 was the gun to head thing to summon the persona. Are the like trying to show sucide or somthing.
DaBears0054 3 years ago
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*Facepalm*
Yes. Yes they are. P3 was all about the theme of death, and that deep in everyone's heads people crave it, and the Evokers were the main symbols of that theme.
And since when does having the other characters being a bunch of helpless fish who can't solve their own problems in the game make anything better? I swear, this game loves to cram friendship down our throat, while P3's characters were more realistic in that they could solve their biggest problems on their own.
FrostLizard 3 years ago
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I agree. From watching LL's series, I can only feel these characters are flat. The only development they gain is through their shadows, which is cheap and gimmicky. Very shallow characters.
Tanasinnchan 3 years ago
the evokers didn't symoblise anything,
they were just for exploiting the characters fear so they could summon their personas.
plus, they were only shaped as guns just so Akihiko would join SEES. :B
StarNines 3 years ago
That's only if you just take things at face value. When you, I don't know, look deeper into it, the developers made it that way to gel with the theme of death. In fact, the whole deal with "exploiting fear" and having it that way for Akihiko to join SEES was really just an excuse so that they could put in that symbol of death.
FrostLizard 3 years ago
...P3's WORLD persona signified an end. P4's WORLD persona went beyond the end of this cycle and signified a new journey's beginning? Huh. That having been said, I really can't help but think P4's protagonist did more good than the P3 MC no matter how many times I think.
kahux 3 years ago
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......
No.
P3's MC/Minato Arisato's Arcana was Death, which signifies change in its simplest form. Minato basically ends his life and the Dark Hour, and after the events in the Answer, P3's cast went on with their normal lives, never to have to deal with that stuff again. In P4, the Backside of the T.V. turns into Happy Fairy Joy Land, and Teddie says himself that things might go wrong again. P3 had a much more fulfilling ending, with P4 clinging to a more cliched ending.
FrostLizard 3 years ago
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Booo....
Leiliel1 3 years ago
P3 MC/Minato's aracana was the Fool/World like the P4 MC... Ryoji/Pharos was Death IIRC.
Lonewulf321 3 years ago
I'm not really that far into P3 yet (I'm almost up to the Hermit), but explain Thanatos then. Didn't Aigis seal Death in the MC? Even if its artificial, he's still the Death Arcanum too. And he also has to be Judgement, since Messiah looks a lot like him and is alike to him in meaning.
FrostLizard 3 years ago
I think because he is the "Fool", he has the inherent characteristics of all Arcana (limitless possiblities), which in turn, allows him to wield all of the Arcana. I think his main are Fool (his intial), Judgement (His character is based on the "Messiah") and the World.
and yes, Aigis did seal Thanatos in him. =)
Lonewulf321 3 years ago
Yes, but he also must be "Death" too. Even if he wasn't meant to be that way from the beginning, if Aigis sealed "Death" in him; and that manifests itself as Thanatos, which is one of the MC's storyline Personae, the MC would have to be "Death" too.
FrostLizard 3 years ago
His arcana was the fool.
Death was a *possible* arcana after Aigis sealed Thanatos in him.
If Death was his arcana, he wouldn't have the wild card ability, now would he?
StarNines 3 years ago
.... Do you even know what Death symbolizes? Change in its essence. If anything, the fact that he's Death would compliment his Fool and make him better at changing Personae than the P4 MC. And when you look at it that way, its obvious that he's also Judgement.
Death, even though it was forcefully sealed in him, is still one of his Arcana. If you put a dollar in a box, said box now has a dollar in it, right?
FrostLizard 3 years ago
You kind of just backed up my point. You originally said it was Death. I said it was the Fool, therefore variable.
You should have worded that better.
StarNines 3 years ago
I'm.... not catching you here. I'm saying that P3's MC was Fool, Death, and Judgement.
FrostLizard 3 years ago
p3's mc was fool, death was the thanatos and the little boy, the pc wasnt death, thanatos was just sealed inside him, and judgment is the entire SEES group ^^"
RoadToTheDawn 3 years ago
"P3's MC/Minato Arisato's Arcana was Death, which signifies change in its simplest form."
Copypasta from what you originally said. I disagreed and said it was the Fool, you then changed your view and said it was Fool, Death and Judgement.
StarNines 3 years ago
Whoops, didn't notice that typo. I forgot to say "one of" and "other."
Let me clarify what I'm trying to say here:
P3's MC was the Fool because.... he's the MC. That was a given, so I didn't mention it.
MC's other Arcana were Death and Judgement, because Aigis sealed Death, in the form of Thanatos inside of him. He is also Judgement because of Messiah, one of his Personae, that looks suspiciously like him and shares his role in Jewish mythology with the MC being a Messiah in the story itself.
FrostLizard 3 years ago
you forgot to mention Universe Arcana...
avrilfantasyrin 2 years ago
OH GAWD.
IAmRauizu 3 years ago
Sooooo...what was the moral of the story?
xXOrpheusThanatosXx 3 years ago
Uh...to sum it up: giving up on humanity while having a god-complex is a no-no...?
hinatafan999 3 years ago
I bet no one wonder if THAT is what the midnight channel supposed like
bajaynyangkut 3 years ago 2
wowee
jenova9 3 years ago
The true beauty of the inner heart looks like paradise. <3
delusionalzero17 3 years ago 3
So that is what teddie's world used to look like before the midnight channel. It's awesome
StarforceOnAir 3 years ago 3
something has been nagging me since i first heard Izanami's english voice... is Karen Strassman (voice of Aigis in P3 and Nanako in P4) Izanami's english VA?
Gigyas142 3 years ago
I'm just going to spill it out... Yeah, I feel some similiarities of Aigis' voice and Izanami's
bajaynyangkut 3 years ago
I think they have the same VA, they definetly sound alike.
ravebeing 3 years ago
Omg make exhibitions again. Please
IzanagiFoolofThunder 3 years ago
dont forget to tell us the new game plus