whattt actually from my experience the complete opposite is true! mac desktops are WAY more cluttered than pcs, and actually ALL of the mac is much more disorganized. ive been using my mac for 3 years now and this is one of the things i miss most from windows
that AND the fact that there is no way to set a default universal finder window size.. it annoys the sparkling cider out of me that it always goes back to that annoying tiny window....
Also, a desktop is an index for shortcuts. And even folders. Your computer will run just the same, be it have a desktop full of junk, or an empty one. This is preference, people organize things differently. There is no exceptions to Mac users. There are cluttered Mac users, and neatfreak mac users. The same with Windows, and Linux users. The ratio is the same with all of them. I'd even say over half the users of each base have cluttered desktops. It's not a bad thing if you know what's there.
A good point. I've seen it. the PC desktops at my school right now have too many icons to sift through.
I think the desktop is good for temporary storage, especially when have a current project that you need to work on a lot. But it should never be permanent.
Thanks Steve Jobs for giving me a dock. Thanks again to whoever coded the auto-hide dock feature.
I dont know what having a cluttered desktop has anything to do with a mac, AppleSoldier is.......I dont even have words to describe him, a hypocritical hick, who is a mac lover and will not admit that pc's are just as goodm if not better
anyone who believes this kids rant is either computer retarded or retarded. just watch 2:41 , he dosnt even know what a windows desktop is! your all dumb for falling for this idots bullshit
@7halos1 thats intended, like windows, as a shortcut, instead of opening a bunch of unnecessary windows just to access something. Believe me, most people I know have a windows computer a don't give a dam about ram, cpu, processor and all that shit. they just buy a comp on appearance or hdd space. If you don't care about that stuff and open a bunch of windows, IT LAGS. I know cos it happens 99.99% of the time on my windows machine. Lucky I have a macbook.
Mac desktops not cluttered? That dock at the bottom is rediculus, if you have 100 programs on that dock, you have to search for it where as a PC you have icons right there and you just click.
After reinstalling my mac, i finally managed to keep it clean for 2 weeks...... I couldn't do it when i had lots of coursework,... to lazy... now that I had a clean one, i kept it clean.... OF COURSE i did back up
How people use their desktop is their own choice dude.
My XP desktop has 1 icon. The recycle bin.
Fastest way to start your program is to increase the number of programs showed in the startmenu.
Just as fast and intiutive as OSX.
But I still prefer OSX over XP.
Just wanna say this because Applesoldier kinda blames MS for peoples cluttered desktop. The same user would clutter an OSX desktop. It's in their nature.
its in their nature cus windows pushes the user toward that. If an app installs a desktop shortcut then most users will simply lay back and accept it. the same user would not be given a desktop shortcut on osx and would learn from day 1 on a mac to use spotlight
I think that dock is a cluster****, wrather have my clutter. I throw everything on my desktop. Better than using some dock that I have to scroll through. I have 63 icons on my desktop. I use them all on a regular basis, except maybe for the recycle bin. Im a bad person for having so many I know. Though I actually use my computer for a myriad of tasks, and I have tried mac, its ok little limiting for my taste but ok. Though your a redneck, we understand, simple is good.
dont put that word soldier in your name your a fucking idiot. how can you be a applesoldier? this is what soldier means. A soldier is a general English term that refers to a land component of national armed forces. so if you say applesoldier your basicly saying your an applearmedforce? your a fucking idiot suck a dick
Your a Twat!This Guy is amazing!Maybe you ought to watch some of his videos,and save your self from the pain of the absolutley shit system of windows!
Wow I can't stop watching your videos cause I love watching people bitch about stupid shit. You have a point but man Can you ever Bitch about some stupid shit. Talk about something relative and don't stick your own foot in your mouth trying to make your point.
"Mac desktops in general are less cluttered than PC desktops" .... who cares. If Steve didn't intend for you to put icons on the desktop, why in the hell did they add that functionality? If i put icons on my desktop I'm using my computer incorrectly? I'm sure YouTube didn't intend for retards to upload worthless garbage and waste bandwidth..yet here you are.
so in the end it's the user's choice to have icons on their desktop. it has nothing to do with what OS you're using so instead of blaming windows blame the users
wait.. so if a windows desktop is cluttered it's windows' fault but if a mac desktop is cluttered then it's the user's fault? good one
Applications are generally at fault here with putting icons on your desktop, not the OS. It has improved over the years where you can opt out of putting an icon on your desktop, start menu, or even quick start.
People sometimes put icons on their desktop out of habit, or that they just want have access to that application quickly.
Anyway, this clutter or clean debate has gone on long enough, it doesn't make one OS better than the other since it's user preference.
dude, emeek man, u used to be good at admiting to people when you got owned, jst admit it man it was a shit topic and there is no point man,
the fact your saying mac desktops generally less cluttered yet it could be an adantage to have a cluttered desktop makes no sense man. cmon its a game dude you win lots and this one you lost.
what you talking about? Could be an advantage to having clutter? I never said clutter can be good. Im not the one owned dude. The videos point is clear. MAC DESKTOPS ARE CLEANER THAN PC in general. What are you talking about owned? a shit topic doenst mean ownage. your talking in circles man, jst my opinion.
I keep my stapler, my pens, slide rule, calculator, and hole punch on my physical desktop. So your analogy is pretty stupid emeek. Also your dock looks pretty cluttered; there are so many icons there, a lot that look similar, which you could probably have spread across your desktop, neatly and organised, and save even more time.
lol, dock is cluttered? the dock hides itself if you want no matter how many icons. And because your physical desktop isnt cluttered doesnt mean 90 percent of every other winpc isnt. save time and look more organized by spreading them on the desktop? You really have no clue do you?
After having done a quick survey of the lounge at my college, there are 9 windows laptops (including mine) out of those 9 only 2 had anymore than 10 icons on their desktop. The other 2 laptops were running linux and they both had around 10 icons. Your numbers only prove that cluttered users like to take screens of their desktops.
The same work it takes to add items to the dock, is about the same amount of work you have to do to put Quick Launch icons on the task bar in Windows XP, and Windows 7. (I haven't got to playing around with Windows 7 much.) And the task bar can be set to Auto hide, and will only show itself once the Windows key is pressed, or you move your mouse to the bottom of the screen. Anything your mac can do, a PC can, and will do. Same with mac, and PC users. ^_^
Macs are in general more expensive than PCs. That is the point. I don't know what you guys don't understand about this point. You guys are trying to say, hey, better quality on macs, use OS X legally, less viruses than PCs. Okay, all that's true, but the fact still remains Macs are more expensive for the most part, relatively speaking, than PCs.
It's probably because the average Windows user isn't as OCD as you. If you used a Windows PC, you would have few icons on your desktop. You're not arguing against Windows, you're arguing against Windows users. Windows isn't bad just because most windows users are unorganized.
On the subject of your desktop videos. It's like the desk that many people use at work. What if I said "well you have a desk. That's what it's there for right?". And a Windows desktop is like a desk without drawers. Everything is forced to stay on top, where as a Mac destop has so many more ways of keeping your files organized without having to hide them away on your hard drive. They're easier to access.
Not everything is forced to stay on top though. All I have to do to launch a program is press start, type in the program's name and press enter. Or I could just put the icons on my taskbar. You can but icons on your taskbar in Windows 7 too you know.
you are completely right man. But the point is 80 percent of people who use windows DOES NOT DO THAT. They use the desktop. Its time to start telling people how to stay organized adn if windows users even half tried to organize better than all kinds of problems would go away.
Fucking sweet camera Emeek. I got the same one. I bought it last November. Amazing quality and you should proabably get better pics out of it because you have a family. Something to actually take pictures of. I'm waiting for Circuit City's prices to get a little cheaper before I get a better lens.
Hey, emeek, why do you clutter your tags with those that have nothing to do with this video. Final cut pro? compressor? tutorials? 3D Modeling? 3dsmax? tutorial? sun microsystems (have you ever even used solaris)? ubuntu? linux? (i'll give you unix considering Mac OS is based on unix) nodes? layers?
Now you changed your opinion. Before you were saying that Windows FORCED users to place icons on your desktop NOW your saying its because of habit. See i will agree to habit but no one is ever forced to do so.
Don't use a folder either ? wtf is this video about?
Are macfags just too stupid to organise their own shit? If I were trying to argue for an OS this is just about the LAST thing I would use, this argument is a fallacy due to BASIC FOLDER MANAGEMENT. WHAT. THE. FUCK.
Can I ask a question? And answer honestly if you can. Why do you choose to wage war on the Windows OS (playing off your AppleSoldier moniker). It's perfectly fine if you prefer one over the other, but you've quite literally sworn allegiance to a bunch of 1s and 0s arranged a certain way.
You could seriously put all this time and energy flaming windows into time spent, say, practicing making 3D effects and such. What can you possibly gain from flaming one OS over the other?
because he's losing money now that the apple stock is going down
and also because to him everything is a competition. be it OS, office applications, editing and compositing apps or 3d animation packages, his choice is always "the best" because that's why he chose it (makes no sense I know, but that's how he thinks, lol)
Not necessarily, but it does so happen that a few of my friends who are Mac owners do enjoy a really organized workspace and file system on there macs, lol.
Again? WTF ... This is pointless topic. Everyone BUT YOU agree that it has to do with the user, and has nothing to do with the OS.
You keep making these videos cause no one agrees with you, let it go. Start making OS 10 videos and how it is great. Instead of wasting your time with an OS you don't know shit about.
He's basically saying that windows encourages the desktop cluttered - Rockyroopam
Actually it's the installed applications that encourage desktop clutter and that has started to change recently. I see more and more application installers that give you an opt out with putting an icon on the desktop, start menu, or even quick start. So it's up the user, not the OS that determines how cluttered or useful their desktop should be.
"He's basically saying that windows encourages the desktop cluttered " - rockyroopam
a piece of software encourages me to do things. Let me tell you something, my computer HAS and always WILL DO what I tell it to do. I WILL NEVER let an inanimate object tell me what to do , ever! Even if an App automatically makes a shortcut on my desktop, I would delete it. THIS DISCUSSION IS POINTLESS
Everyone gets your point. People have been trying to get you to understand their point that they don't care. It doesn't affect anything. Shortcuts can be deleted or left there or not put on the desktop at all it makes no real difference. There are still multiple ways to start an application like start menu, search, pinned to start menu, pinned to taskbar, quicklaunch, custom toolbar, desktop. I could make a mosaic with icons on my desktop and still wouldn't have a negative effect on productivity
I use Windows Vista and I only have the Recycle Bin on there if I had a Mac which I want I would barley have anything on the dock only stuff that I use all the time, in Windows I put all apps under the start menu
The desktop is worthless and always will be. Why would I want icons on my fucking desktop? Icons are worthless if you cannot see and click them.. To get to them I would have to minimize all my processes. Fuck that. I'll just stick to the dock
By way you mean less then a year before Windows 1.0 was released?
What does that have to do with anything anyway, neither Windows 1 to 3.1 nor Mac 1 - os 9 had a dock nor start menu or quicklaunch - well, not counting windows 1.0's little "task bar" with icons on it.
What I am saying is, who gives a damn if apple copied. You can't just not have taskbar/dock or whatever. The OS would be stupid without a primary menu/launcher. Pretty much the same for the GUI. You can't really call copier when it is something that is a necessity.
Well I wasn't trying to discuss who copied who and which company has a bigger penis, just saying, the desktop on Windows is used for starting apps by a lot of people, but even the lesser of advanced users eventually incorporate the start menu and quicklaunch, even my mom (which says a lot). I'm not gonna lie though, the new 7 task bar makes it much easier to open apps, but, like the dock, is still not enough as a standalone launcher interface, at least for the number of apps I use frequently.
Well the way things are managed now are just glossed over old technology... we need a new way of doing things and I think Spotlight will eventually take place of launching applications.
Actually you can add the desktop toolbar now to the taskbar which is a little button that shows you everything on your desktop without actually going to it. It's in windows 7 and i'm pretty sure in Vista too. It's really useful
ya who cares who peoples have lots of stuff on there desktop that is up 2 them not u or anyone else so there leve it at that for god sake its a fucking desktop with icons on it thats wot its for not for looking at your pics all the time god
"But the fact still remains Mac Desktops are less cluttered."
Lets skip back to the 3rd grade, Fact or Opinion? A desktop no matter the operating system is a subjective issue. Subjective if you don't know what that means is: existing in the mind. Which means it's an opinion. For it to be a fact you would need concrete proof. I'm noy denying some peoples desktops are cluttered, nor Windows has sub-par organization but something that can be proven remains an opinion. Grats on the camera.
I see your point Emeek however, the fact that PC desktops are more cluttered is debatable. When you go against Windows I don't know whether you're going against XP, Vista or Windows 7. When google search Windows desktops, yes there are quite a few cluttered desktops, and those desktops are almost ALL XP. When I google Vista about 1/20 of those desktops are cluttered. When I google Windows 7, almost none of the desktops are cluttered. So please when you compare the OS's compare the newest.
DUDE... there is no APPLICATION on the desktop... they are only SHORTCUTs... i don't have a mac... but i think the SHORTCUT thing is something like the DOCK in OS X...
I see the point a little. But here is the question. If indeed windows desktops are more cluttered. How do we know that it has to do with windows versus the windows user. People forget that windows still dominated apple in overall marketshare, not sales but overall. That means the windows has a larger install based and you get a lot more different types of people than a small install base. I think it has more to do with that how windows gui is set up.
To be honest, and to repeat myself once more, the point is not only that Windows desktops are more cluttered (which is a fact!) but that the structure of Windows (the way Windows is build) isn't handy. Windows lacks organization tools and quick ways to launch applications. This all has to do with the structure of an OS. And after all, this is Mac vs. PC, so we are comparing Windows to Mac OS X.
If you don't want icons on your desktop you don't have to have them on windows, or MAC. I only have a few myself. If people want to use the desktop w/e, does not mean that OSX is better than windows, or that windows is better than OSX.
You do launch Applications from the desktop, it is called the Dock. It is an Application launcher on the desktop. Even if you hide it, you will have to go over i so it shows on your desktop and open an Application. Your points are extremely weak in this so called "debate", you make not one sensible post and you have these sheep that follow your every word because they think that hating PCs is the in thing to do. I suggest that you Emeek come up with better arguments or just stick to tutorials.
If a person has to change YOUR point to make his or her own point, then he or she should clean the wax out of his/her ears. Happy shutterbugging with the DLSR.
when i bought the dslr it was $1000 when i got it is was amazing. because it was one of the first digital cameras that you could change the lenses. its a really nice camera though.
Digital Single Lens Reflex. You can interchange the lenses with a manual, but there will be a "factor" that you will have multiply your manual lens by when you add it to your DSLR, because chances are the focal length will change, because the distance between the aperture of that new lens and the film will change.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHHAHA
at the end of the video
"OS 10" puts his hands up to an X , reminds me of some power ranger movie, what a loser
010msion 1 year ago
How the hell is mac better just because of what the user does with his desktop?
What the fuck?
Quit contradicting yourself you ignorant fuck.
TMNoob3 1 year ago
LMAO i just realized your account name is applesoldier.... well that explains it haha cant take your videos seriously now
theandyandsamyshow 1 year ago
whattt actually from my experience the complete opposite is true! mac desktops are WAY more cluttered than pcs, and actually ALL of the mac is much more disorganized. ive been using my mac for 3 years now and this is one of the things i miss most from windows
that AND the fact that there is no way to set a default universal finder window size.. it annoys the sparkling cider out of me that it always goes back to that annoying tiny window....
theandyandsamyshow 1 year ago
Also, a desktop is an index for shortcuts. And even folders. Your computer will run just the same, be it have a desktop full of junk, or an empty one. This is preference, people organize things differently. There is no exceptions to Mac users. There are cluttered Mac users, and neatfreak mac users. The same with Windows, and Linux users. The ratio is the same with all of them. I'd even say over half the users of each base have cluttered desktops. It's not a bad thing if you know what's there.
Blivia 1 year ago
A good point. I've seen it. the PC desktops at my school right now have too many icons to sift through.
I think the desktop is good for temporary storage, especially when have a current project that you need to work on a lot. But it should never be permanent.
Thanks Steve Jobs for giving me a dock. Thanks again to whoever coded the auto-hide dock feature.
Rifalltoo 1 year ago
You already on a first name basis with Steve ? =)
scooobys2 1 year ago
Here's a nice guide videos
Disabled ratings == Bullshit videos
rgzdev 1 year ago
/watch?v=ulUT1ZiIAy8&feature=related
A Cluttered Mac desktop !
Coliekokker 1 year ago
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I dont know what having a cluttered desktop has anything to do with a mac, AppleSoldier is.......I dont even have words to describe him, a hypocritical hick, who is a mac lover and will not admit that pc's are just as goodm if not better
Coliekokker 1 year ago
anyone who believes this kids rant is either computer retarded or retarded. just watch 2:41 , he dosnt even know what a windows desktop is! your all dumb for falling for this idots bullshit
fruityloopsgod 1 year ago
Yes you're forced to used it on PC. It sucks. Now though the shit I use is on the superbar/dock rip-off.
moe1900 1 year ago
where did you get the background
7halos1 1 year ago
the destop on mac and pc are you differntly
mac destop are there notifation area
7halos1 1 year ago
the diference i found is that
the MAC destop is are PC my computer window
if you put a disk in it appears in there desktop fo pc it appears in the my computer window
7halos1 1 year ago
@7halos1 thats intended, like windows, as a shortcut, instead of opening a bunch of unnecessary windows just to access something. Believe me, most people I know have a windows computer a don't give a dam about ram, cpu, processor and all that shit. they just buy a comp on appearance or hdd space. If you don't care about that stuff and open a bunch of windows, IT LAGS. I know cos it happens 99.99% of the time on my windows machine. Lucky I have a macbook.
bjclothier1 1 year ago
Mac desktops not cluttered? That dock at the bottom is rediculus, if you have 100 programs on that dock, you have to search for it where as a PC you have icons right there and you just click.
jpross123 1 year ago
first off you'd need to define "clutter". it may be cluttered to you but to someone else its neat. completely opinionated argument.
k1noify 1 year ago
it doesn't bother us, but clearly it bothers you.
Azryiel 2 years ago
nice points i get it, have done for sometime ..
kenspocket 2 years ago
r u gay
1234josemen 2 years ago
i understand i just don't get it (just kidding)
vwxy20z 2 years ago
well speaking your dock is Clutted. so u can't speak
samfty 2 years ago
Lol his dock isn't cluttered. Clutter is when you have so much stuff; you cannot find something you need to, quickly.
Anavengertg 2 years ago
After reinstalling my mac, i finally managed to keep it clean for 2 weeks...... I couldn't do it when i had lots of coursework,... to lazy... now that I had a clean one, i kept it clean.... OF COURSE i did back up
AaronBalitskyz 2 years ago
The good thing is that you can download a copy of the dock for windows, and clean all that icons.
cyprusboy56 2 years ago
3:33
what do you think superbar is there for?
1 click, app starts, when im done, i close it with 1 click, and thats it
YOU IGNORANT BITCH
xoANONiMUSox 2 years ago
Good things mac desktops aren't cluttered, because noone would need to make an app like camouflage (watch?v=ELd4kBV_2ds)
alexicoff 2 years ago
my desktop only has a recycle bin, and a dock in xp, there is a program called rocketdock and it uses little resources
aidan160 2 years ago
lol pc users envy the mac os
muk546 2 years ago
i don't use it anymore, it became too annoying and useless and i don't use windows anymore i use Ubuntu, why buy a mac when you can download Ubuntu.
aidan160 2 years ago
not really.
sakthitharans 2 years ago
How people use their desktop is their own choice dude.
My XP desktop has 1 icon. The recycle bin.
Fastest way to start your program is to increase the number of programs showed in the startmenu.
Just as fast and intiutive as OSX.
But I still prefer OSX over XP.
Just wanna say this because Applesoldier kinda blames MS for peoples cluttered desktop. The same user would clutter an OSX desktop. It's in their nature.
sn0le 2 years ago
its in their nature cus windows pushes the user toward that. If an app installs a desktop shortcut then most users will simply lay back and accept it. the same user would not be given a desktop shortcut on osx and would learn from day 1 on a mac to use spotlight
mixxolydian 2 years ago
/requests that wallpaper, please
ulke12 2 years ago
I think that dock is a cluster****, wrather have my clutter. I throw everything on my desktop. Better than using some dock that I have to scroll through. I have 63 icons on my desktop. I use them all on a regular basis, except maybe for the recycle bin. Im a bad person for having so many I know. Though I actually use my computer for a myriad of tasks, and I have tried mac, its ok little limiting for my taste but ok. Though your a redneck, we understand, simple is good.
painlessguy 2 years ago
The dock is the exact same thing, but in a secluded space, and the icons are in a straight line.
ShinobixNinja 2 years ago
My desk top is not very cluttered at all. i have lots of apps in my dock and in the stacks.
addisonhuy 2 years ago
Total Agree.
cracksegg 2 years ago
its true great video yet again
macintoshmadness 3 years ago
windows in its own right is an eyesore regardless of the desktop!
thebestofall007 3 years ago
OSX4LIFE!!!
califasio 3 years ago
What his dock...if that's not clutter, then what else is? hehehe
Here's another one, YouTube: "Adobe Photoshop Tutorial in HD: changing plant color"
Go to 0:14
Sure, Macs are not cluttered hehe
jiyx 3 years ago
thank you, it all dependson the person, and if you have to leave thespace free for you pretty picture? this guys a fucking retard
sccandudz 2 years ago
wallpaper link?
ghosty4ever 3 years ago
dont put that word soldier in your name your a fucking idiot. how can you be a applesoldier? this is what soldier means. A soldier is a general English term that refers to a land component of national armed forces. so if you say applesoldier your basicly saying your an applearmedforce? your a fucking idiot suck a dick
TranslucentVIDZ 3 years ago
Your a Twat!This Guy is amazing!Maybe you ought to watch some of his videos,and save your self from the pain of the absolutley shit system of windows!
PutrifyingEagor 3 years ago
uhm mabe you should educate yourself on computers because if you take what this guy says seriously, then you need help
steven4570 2 years ago
Wow I can't stop watching your videos cause I love watching people bitch about stupid shit. You have a point but man Can you ever Bitch about some stupid shit. Talk about something relative and don't stick your own foot in your mouth trying to make your point.
Apoxolypse 3 years ago
So do you have proof/samples that Mac desktops are "less cluttered" than PC desktops?
slikdude12592 3 years ago
I won't worry about people missing the point if they do there dumb fucks. for example oo3rex is a dumb fuck and other include Str8ballin1337 etc etc.
pkerry12 3 years ago
"Mac desktops in general are less cluttered than PC desktops" .... who cares. If Steve didn't intend for you to put icons on the desktop, why in the hell did they add that functionality? If i put icons on my desktop I'm using my computer incorrectly? I'm sure YouTube didn't intend for retards to upload worthless garbage and waste bandwidth..yet here you are.
oo3rex 3 years ago
Wow, you're fucking stupid.
Str8ballin1337 3 years ago
Emeek I see your point and I agree with it but in my opinion I like to use the desktop I also use quick launch for my main apps and folders.
Caboose2321 3 years ago
The dock is there so you don't have to go into finder and navigate to the apps.
QuickCon 3 years ago
but then so is the desktop
ghosty4ever 3 years ago
Yep.
QuickCon 3 years ago
yeah that's why you have the dock
and that's why we have the quick launch bar
and also the start menu/pearl
so in the end it's the user's choice to have icons on their desktop. it has nothing to do with what OS you're using so instead of blaming windows blame the users
wait.. so if a windows desktop is cluttered it's windows' fault but if a mac desktop is cluttered then it's the user's fault? good one
nemirc 3 years ago
Why didn't you buy the d80 ?
habejazz 3 years ago
Applications are generally at fault here with putting icons on your desktop, not the OS. It has improved over the years where you can opt out of putting an icon on your desktop, start menu, or even quick start.
People sometimes put icons on their desktop out of habit, or that they just want have access to that application quickly.
Anyway, this clutter or clean debate has gone on long enough, it doesn't make one OS better than the other since it's user preference.
blacksteel25 3 years ago
Yes that's true!
thomashome05 3 years ago
Yes the windows desktop is usually cluttered, but your app folder is cluttered... Many icons last time i checked it in one of your videos.
Dryvnt2 3 years ago
So you made up a silly argument for no reason?
ShockaSlim 3 years ago
The Clutter on Windows Machienes dous not Stop at the Desktop!
marclicious8 3 years ago
LOL, man you are SO RIGHT!!!!!
AppleSoldier 3 years ago
DSLR Hell yeah. I just got a Canon EOS Rebel XS, similar to the D60. I'm loving it so far.
cendrillon1978 3 years ago
i love it dude. Im spoiled. It takes pics so fast.
AppleSoldier 3 years ago
dude, emeek man, u used to be good at admiting to people when you got owned, jst admit it man it was a shit topic and there is no point man,
the fact your saying mac desktops generally less cluttered yet it could be an adantage to have a cluttered desktop makes no sense man. cmon its a game dude you win lots and this one you lost.
not an attack emeek just my opinion.
1xxxxxxdreamxxxxxx1 3 years ago
what you talking about? Could be an advantage to having clutter? I never said clutter can be good. Im not the one owned dude. The videos point is clear. MAC DESKTOPS ARE CLEANER THAN PC in general. What are you talking about owned? a shit topic doenst mean ownage. your talking in circles man, jst my opinion.
AppleSoldier 3 years ago
you get 1 star
NothingCoherent 3 years ago
Shut up about Desktops, Mac Fan boy.
AlucardxSneeky 3 years ago
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Selancia 3 years ago
I keep my stapler, my pens, slide rule, calculator, and hole punch on my physical desktop. So your analogy is pretty stupid emeek. Also your dock looks pretty cluttered; there are so many icons there, a lot that look similar, which you could probably have spread across your desktop, neatly and organised, and save even more time.
frickendevil 3 years ago
lol, dock is cluttered? the dock hides itself if you want no matter how many icons. And because your physical desktop isnt cluttered doesnt mean 90 percent of every other winpc isnt. save time and look more organized by spreading them on the desktop? You really have no clue do you?
AppleSoldier 3 years ago
After having done a quick survey of the lounge at my college, there are 9 windows laptops (including mine) out of those 9 only 2 had anymore than 10 icons on their desktop. The other 2 laptops were running linux and they both had around 10 icons. Your numbers only prove that cluttered users like to take screens of their desktops.
RamielRowe 3 years ago
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oo3rex 3 years ago
@AppleSoldier
The same work it takes to add items to the dock, is about the same amount of work you have to do to put Quick Launch icons on the task bar in Windows XP, and Windows 7. (I haven't got to playing around with Windows 7 much.) And the task bar can be set to Auto hide, and will only show itself once the Windows key is pressed, or you move your mouse to the bottom of the screen. Anything your mac can do, a PC can, and will do. Same with mac, and PC users. ^_^
Blivia 1 year ago
I give you 1 star.
Noodleboy111 3 years ago
go fuck yourself, judge William Aslup ruled that apple abuses copyright laws
anon510 3 years ago
Here's my point
Macs are in general more expensive than PCs. That is the point. I don't know what you guys don't understand about this point. You guys are trying to say, hey, better quality on macs, use OS X legally, less viruses than PCs. Okay, all that's true, but the fact still remains Macs are more expensive for the most part, relatively speaking, than PCs.
whathuh05 3 years ago
The way he does that Sailor Moon hand gesture at the end gets me hard every time.
wehat 3 years ago
You watch a whole one of these?
frickendevil 3 years ago
It's probably because the average Windows user isn't as OCD as you. If you used a Windows PC, you would have few icons on your desktop. You're not arguing against Windows, you're arguing against Windows users. Windows isn't bad just because most windows users are unorganized.
Also, "Steve" didn't give you a dock.
0melet 3 years ago
for fuck sakes if you don't like his vids don't fucking watch them. It isn't rocket science you imbeciles.
TwistedShrapnel 3 years ago
I give you a 1.
LightxEdge 3 years ago
Why don't you do something interesting like make a review video of your new camera? I'd rather see that than this constant bitch fest.
bryant1316 3 years ago
mac desktops are great for looking at while drinking a 5 dollar coffee at starbucks
wehat 3 years ago
On the subject of your desktop videos. It's like the desk that many people use at work. What if I said "well you have a desk. That's what it's there for right?". And a Windows desktop is like a desk without drawers. Everything is forced to stay on top, where as a Mac destop has so many more ways of keeping your files organized without having to hide them away on your hard drive. They're easier to access.
SunriseInTheMidwest 3 years ago
Not everything is forced to stay on top though. All I have to do to launch a program is press start, type in the program's name and press enter. Or I could just put the icons on my taskbar. You can but icons on your taskbar in Windows 7 too you know.
0m3n1337 3 years ago
you are completely right man. But the point is 80 percent of people who use windows DOES NOT DO THAT. They use the desktop. Its time to start telling people how to stay organized adn if windows users even half tried to organize better than all kinds of problems would go away.
AppleSoldier 3 years ago
I give you a 1.
Anoners 3 years ago
Fucking sweet camera Emeek. I got the same one. I bought it last November. Amazing quality and you should proabably get better pics out of it because you have a family. Something to actually take pictures of. I'm waiting for Circuit City's prices to get a little cheaper before I get a better lens.
SunriseInTheMidwest 3 years ago
Hey, emeek, why do you clutter your tags with those that have nothing to do with this video. Final cut pro? compressor? tutorials? 3D Modeling? 3dsmax? tutorial? sun microsystems (have you ever even used solaris)? ubuntu? linux? (i'll give you unix considering Mac OS is based on unix) nodes? layers?
RamielRowe 3 years ago
so?
Nymphrix 3 years ago
1star, etc.
YuckyCougar 3 years ago 2
Fagot
UbuntuLee 3 years ago
I gave you a one.
rabid17 3 years ago 2
Fagot
UbuntuLee 3 years ago
so true, the dock rules for shortcuts/programs.
You made it plenty clear
CrystalBreaker 3 years ago
flagged for shocking or disgusting content
failharderpl0x 3 years ago
If you hate this fucker don't watch him. Your being a fagot.
UbuntuLee 3 years ago
I gave you a 1.
failharderpl0x 3 years ago
i give you 1 star
yacko6 3 years ago
>i give you 1 star
Fagot
UbuntuLee 3 years ago
lol i still give him one star.
yacko6 3 years ago
reason?
UbuntuLee 3 years ago
The desktop is temporary for me, The only thing i have permanatley is recycle bin. I love mac docks because they are so convieniant so well built in.
btw where did you get your desktop background emeek?? please reply!!!!!!!! AHH!!!
MLGVersion3 3 years ago
I'd like to see some proof of this stuff you're saying.
Famf9983 3 years ago
Who cares jerkoff? Steve would rather give you the cock than the dock anyway
milkbone98 3 years ago
Now you changed your opinion. Before you were saying that Windows FORCED users to place icons on your desktop NOW your saying its because of habit. See i will agree to habit but no one is ever forced to do so.
xtreem0 3 years ago
Emeek has right at this point.
I am not a friend about Emeek but this is true.
Because many windows installer are automatically installing shortcuts on your windows desktop.
You have to uncheck it.
Colamix666 3 years ago
OH NOES YOU HAVE TO DELETE A COUPLE OF ICONS ;_;
Don't use a folder either ? wtf is this video about?
Are macfags just too stupid to organise their own shit? If I were trying to argue for an OS this is just about the LAST thing I would use, this argument is a fallacy due to BASIC FOLDER MANAGEMENT. WHAT. THE. FUCK.
PzkfWII 3 years ago
The term MacFag is a little unneeded, but yes I agree. All it requires is a drag the icons to the trashcan... like 2 seconds of work.
UbuntuLee 3 years ago
"You have to uncheck it. " is this your argument? U 1/2 Two Bee Kid ding!
Why do people hate options? That is what I'm curious of.
OS 10 is great. Windows is good, and I get "options", why is that bad?
ThingsontheWeb 3 years ago
"Because many windows installer are automatically installing shortcuts on your windows desktop.
You have to uncheck it. "
since the moment you can uncheck it, you're given the choice to automatically create the shortcut or not
guess what, a lot of us always uncheck that option...
nemirc 3 years ago
Can I ask a question? And answer honestly if you can. Why do you choose to wage war on the Windows OS (playing off your AppleSoldier moniker). It's perfectly fine if you prefer one over the other, but you've quite literally sworn allegiance to a bunch of 1s and 0s arranged a certain way.
You could seriously put all this time and energy flaming windows into time spent, say, practicing making 3D effects and such. What can you possibly gain from flaming one OS over the other?
Just askin'.
BadGeometry 3 years ago
because he's losing money now that the apple stock is going down
and also because to him everything is a competition. be it OS, office applications, editing and compositing apps or 3d animation packages, his choice is always "the best" because that's why he chose it (makes no sense I know, but that's how he thinks, lol)
nemirc 3 years ago
You think 96 dollars a stock is "going down" in todays economy? ...
UbuntuLee 3 years ago
it can be 100 dollars or 1 dollar , it doesn't matter. To me the only thing that matters is that my stock has to go up and up and up and up :D
nemirc 3 years ago
Is Emeek saying Mac users are more likely neat freaks?
blacksteel25 3 years ago
Not necessarily, but it does so happen that a few of my friends who are Mac owners do enjoy a really organized workspace and file system on there macs, lol.
VegasUndergroundLive 3 years ago
it seems more mac people are concerned with neatness than pc users. IN GENERAL> there are exceptions to the rules of course.
AppleSoldier 3 years ago
We now see your point. The thing is... your point isn't even relevant. Who cares if Mac desktops have less icons?
IronSocial 3 years ago
Again? WTF ... This is pointless topic. Everyone BUT YOU agree that it has to do with the user, and has nothing to do with the OS.
You keep making these videos cause no one agrees with you, let it go. Start making OS 10 videos and how it is great. Instead of wasting your time with an OS you don't know shit about.
ThingsontheWeb 3 years ago
He's basically saying that windows encourages the desktop cluttered
Rockyroopam 3 years ago
He's basically saying that windows encourages the desktop cluttered - Rockyroopam
Actually it's the installed applications that encourage desktop clutter and that has started to change recently. I see more and more application installers that give you an opt out with putting an icon on the desktop, start menu, or even quick start. So it's up the user, not the OS that determines how cluttered or useful their desktop should be.
blacksteel25 3 years ago
"He's basically saying that windows encourages the desktop cluttered " - rockyroopam
a piece of software encourages me to do things. Let me tell you something, my computer HAS and always WILL DO what I tell it to do. I WILL NEVER let an inanimate object tell me what to do , ever! Even if an App automatically makes a shortcut on my desktop, I would delete it. THIS DISCUSSION IS POINTLESS
ThingsontheWeb 3 years ago
getting into lightwave i see. Kudos.
GrowingDemon 3 years ago
Everyone gets your point. People have been trying to get you to understand their point that they don't care. It doesn't affect anything. Shortcuts can be deleted or left there or not put on the desktop at all it makes no real difference. There are still multiple ways to start an application like start menu, search, pinned to start menu, pinned to taskbar, quicklaunch, custom toolbar, desktop. I could make a mosaic with icons on my desktop and still wouldn't have a negative effect on productivity
inyourcrawlspace 3 years ago
Nice camera!! I was looking at getting that one as well.
IridiumVIII 3 years ago
I use Windows Vista and I only have the Recycle Bin on there if I had a Mac which I want I would barley have anything on the dock only stuff that I use all the time, in Windows I put all apps under the start menu
DavidsTechShow101 3 years ago
very good point. i understand your point very well emeek
mykeman83 3 years ago
The desktop is worthless and always will be. Why would I want icons on my fucking desktop? Icons are worthless if you cannot see and click them.. To get to them I would have to minimize all my processes. Fuck that. I'll just stick to the dock
UbuntuLee 3 years ago
thats why windows invented the start menu and quick launch oh so many years before Mac got the dock in it.
PoliticalHell 3 years ago
Apple got a GUI in 1984.... way before Windows had one.
UbuntuLee 3 years ago
By way you mean less then a year before Windows 1.0 was released?
What does that have to do with anything anyway, neither Windows 1 to 3.1 nor Mac 1 - os 9 had a dock nor start menu or quicklaunch - well, not counting windows 1.0's little "task bar" with icons on it.
PoliticalHell 3 years ago
What I am saying is, who gives a damn if apple copied. You can't just not have taskbar/dock or whatever. The OS would be stupid without a primary menu/launcher. Pretty much the same for the GUI. You can't really call copier when it is something that is a necessity.
UbuntuLee 3 years ago
Well I wasn't trying to discuss who copied who and which company has a bigger penis, just saying, the desktop on Windows is used for starting apps by a lot of people, but even the lesser of advanced users eventually incorporate the start menu and quicklaunch, even my mom (which says a lot). I'm not gonna lie though, the new 7 task bar makes it much easier to open apps, but, like the dock, is still not enough as a standalone launcher interface, at least for the number of apps I use frequently.
PoliticalHell 3 years ago
Well the way things are managed now are just glossed over old technology... we need a new way of doing things and I think Spotlight will eventually take place of launching applications.
UbuntuLee 3 years ago
Xerox had a GUI before Apple.
korwinblue 3 years ago
Yes I am aware of this.
UbuntuLee 3 years ago
Actually you can add the desktop toolbar now to the taskbar which is a little button that shows you everything on your desktop without actually going to it. It's in windows 7 and i'm pretty sure in Vista too. It's really useful
roxgod666 3 years ago
ya who cares who peoples have lots of stuff on there desktop that is up 2 them not u or anyone else so there leve it at that for god sake its a fucking desktop with icons on it thats wot its for not for looking at your pics all the time god
TFDgohan 3 years ago
Good to finally bury the hatchet. And good luck with your camera, I can't wait to get my Canon EOS Rebel XS!
carlheanerd 3 years ago
"But the fact still remains Mac Desktops are less cluttered."
Lets skip back to the 3rd grade, Fact or Opinion? A desktop no matter the operating system is a subjective issue. Subjective if you don't know what that means is: existing in the mind. Which means it's an opinion. For it to be a fact you would need concrete proof. I'm noy denying some peoples desktops are cluttered, nor Windows has sub-par organization but something that can be proven remains an opinion. Grats on the camera.
GraphicaLaughter 3 years ago
I see your point Emeek however, the fact that PC desktops are more cluttered is debatable. When you go against Windows I don't know whether you're going against XP, Vista or Windows 7. When google search Windows desktops, yes there are quite a few cluttered desktops, and those desktops are almost ALL XP. When I google Vista about 1/20 of those desktops are cluttered. When I google Windows 7, almost none of the desktops are cluttered. So please when you compare the OS's compare the newest.
0m3n1337 3 years ago
DUDE... there is no APPLICATION on the desktop... they are only SHORTCUTs... i don't have a mac... but i think the SHORTCUT thing is something like the DOCK in OS X...
poka5532 3 years ago
The only equivalent to a "Shortcut" to a Mac is "Alias".
Coraxuss 3 years ago
i use pc, but as you said in your video, i don't think any pc users INSTALL and STORE their apps on their desktop...
storage is in the programfiles\... but just the shortcut is on the desktop... if i'm wrong, please tell me...
poka5532 3 years ago
"Mac desktops are generally less cluttered than PC desktops".
Who cares!
"oranges are brighter orange than tangerines". So freaking what....
svtcontour 3 years ago
at the end of the day... does this subject really matter?
km297 3 years ago 2
I see the point a little. But here is the question. If indeed windows desktops are more cluttered. How do we know that it has to do with windows versus the windows user. People forget that windows still dominated apple in overall marketshare, not sales but overall. That means the windows has a larger install based and you get a lot more different types of people than a small install base. I think it has more to do with that how windows gui is set up.
Jedibron 3 years ago
To be honest, and to repeat myself once more, the point is not only that Windows desktops are more cluttered (which is a fact!) but that the structure of Windows (the way Windows is build) isn't handy. Windows lacks organization tools and quick ways to launch applications. This all has to do with the structure of an OS. And after all, this is Mac vs. PC, so we are comparing Windows to Mac OS X.
Sven88abc 3 years ago
If you don't want icons on your desktop you don't have to have them on windows, or MAC. I only have a few myself. If people want to use the desktop w/e, does not mean that OSX is better than windows, or that windows is better than OSX.
JDRyder15 3 years ago
tbh the desktop is a personally thing, doesnt matter about the OS
Skutz0r 3 years ago
My Last Video Reply Is Also On Its Way Up.
VegasUndergroundLive 3 years ago
I've noticed GNU/Linux desktops are a mixed bag of nuts, Some are clean, some are cluttered.
commodore256 3 years ago
sounds about normal
AppleSoldier 3 years ago
When r u making another in the life of emeek
MacMiniGuru 3 years ago
You do launch Applications from the desktop, it is called the Dock. It is an Application launcher on the desktop. Even if you hide it, you will have to go over i so it shows on your desktop and open an Application. Your points are extremely weak in this so called "debate", you make not one sensible post and you have these sheep that follow your every word because they think that hating PCs is the in thing to do. I suggest that you Emeek come up with better arguments or just stick to tutorials.
UTisNUM1 3 years ago 3
If a person has to change YOUR point to make his or her own point, then he or she should clean the wax out of his/her ears. Happy shutterbugging with the DLSR.
keytoothed 3 years ago
you sir make a good point
AppleSoldier 3 years ago
I meant DSLR. You probably paid $500 for what, a couple years ago, I paid a thousand for.
keytoothed 3 years ago
when i bought the dslr it was $1000 when i got it is was amazing. because it was one of the first digital cameras that you could change the lenses. its a really nice camera though.
futbolplaya07 3 years ago
Nice, D60 is great, i have the D200 and i LOVE it!
nerdishtech 3 years ago
woot dslr!!!
macward66 3 years ago
whats the diff between that and a SLR? Is a DSLR the same as a SLR?
AppleSoldier 3 years ago
SLR is film ,,,DSLR is digital- a digital SLR
macward66 3 years ago
That was a joke right?
JDRyder15 3 years ago
the DSLR is digital vs film for the SLR. I've got a Canon 20D which I've used for years and its made me really happy :)
svtcontour 3 years ago
Digital Single Lens Reflex. You can interchange the lenses with a manual, but there will be a "factor" that you will have multiply your manual lens by when you add it to your DSLR, because chances are the focal length will change, because the distance between the aperture of that new lens and the film will change.
keytoothed 3 years ago
noob
ThingsontheWeb 3 years ago
Great vid applesoldier
thechoice33 3 years ago