JulyZerg vs SlayerS_`BoxeR` (FPVOD)

[DyingElement]

@IMASIANSNIPA So Julyzerg was is a bad disadvantage but he won?? I thought Boxer did

[CaptainCrunchOwns]

@DyingElement Boxer won this one.

[nestcanz]

Who won?

[IMASIANSNIPA]

@nestcanz July zerg...dude he had f*cking nothing because he can't expo since boxer is known for harassing rine drop on expos and science vessel microing against the scrouges

[KWESuperstar1]

nice battle . :D

[Xecutionner2K]

Starcraft 1 > 2. Although starcraft 2 is very good, first one is just the best rts ever.

[bcgn5]

pro zerg players shit themselves when boxer has 4 marines and 2 medics inside their base

[atticusfurx]

The Hydra has always been my favorite unit, too bad I never get to see it on SC2

[ichigobankaimanable]

who wins ?

[KassadinX]

@ichigobankaimanable boxer

[ichigobankaimanable]

i love irradiate

[10kuplus]

i miss hydralisks so much

[swbf2fan2510]

havent it been for blizzard whe wouldnt had this great game and all the other great games they made

[SubconsciousAwaken]

i <3 South Koreas Starcraft. Lol anyone listened to bigbang? sc2 is smoother, like wc3 frozen throne.

[Roobiin111]

why did he the kill some of his own units at 16:31 - 16:50 ?? does it give him energy?

[lazomaniac]

@Roobiin111 yes,an ability called consume

[plszuts]

@Roobiin111 Defilers have been known to cannibalize other zerg to fuel the metasynaptic processes that generate the biochemicals, often accompanied by zergling escorts for this very reason. (source: starcraft.wikia.com) So yes, it does give the defiler energy.

[kelmorian178]

@Roobiin111 Yes, the Defiler (after Research) may consume a fellow Zerg unit for 50 EN.

[imblackascrap]

I miss the old Zerg. Mass hatcheries ftw!

[imblackascrap]

Ohhh robsta craw! Haaarrrooooooo!

[2kydawe]

Korean really gives me a headache.. so annoying to listen too.

[0Radex]

@2kydawe so mute instead of whining.

[XxUn0rth4dOxXx]

StarCraft1 Live Forever

[FoXMaSteR001]

the stimpack sound is clearly BETTER here , sc2's stimpack sucks!

OH YEAH :D !!!

[TheShadoek]

@FoXMaSteR001 Starcraft2 OST surely is bad, we missed all the voices D:

[keiichan713]

i was squealing liek a little girl when he lost 4 overloads loaded with lurkers and hydras >< 

[lollollol136]

Y r u guys arguing bout them?  They r both honorable pro players and they did very nice game

[SiriusPP]

how they dont get dizzy or epilepsy playing like this :/

[MyLoveOrangeCaramel]

APM does not equal skill. I have 150-200 apm and i lose to 110 cuz my strategy fail on me all the time

[superarbol]

@MyLoveOrangeCaramel july have 800 apm xD

[MyLoveOrangeCaramel]

@superarbol that's 800 peak point, their average apm is 350-400

[rodrigo412]

dude is incredible how fast they play!!

[TootingTooter]

commentators are having orgasms pretty damn often...only if my girlfriend is like this.

[Tezamene]

that was cool)

[darkjemdude]

I wish I understood what was happening. This looks really cool. Maybe I should learn Korean.

[AruaRoseP]

is there a BOXER version on this??

[STarCRAFT4BRITS]

boxer is a maphacker

[TheTerrantula]

@STarCRAFT4BRITS

boxer is terran with scanners :)

[zanyAnimations]

@STarCRAFT4BRITS You can't really have maphacking in a proleague game, they both sit in the same room and have live spectators and people watching the actual screens they use. Plus, I doubt they install SC on the computers they play on themselves :P

[Qwerty48121]

its weird, in sc2 the zerg base seems so cluttered and every base does but in sc1 it just feels so empty

[GameMiestro]

Insane Terran micro...

[Ringoo4]

lol... It's 2005. July was one of the fastest zerg micro+macro player 'at that time'. He is far from being slow. TheZittar is obviously saying July 'was' one of the best zerg player and that's the truth even though he might not right now. You are discussing about 'THIS VIDEO', not what he is 'now'. Logics stinks.

[shroomwarrior]

straight up noob play

[overmazter]

greaddddddd!!!

[ZachRose88]

oh. my. god. This dude is so good at SC, love watching these pro vids.

[Khoalam91]

I can follow this vod -> July is pretty slow lol

[benkenser]

@Khoalam91

I wonder how he got 800 apm

[Khoalam91]

@benkenser he didn't, that was only a computer error. You can double check by trying to spam all the buttons and using an APM counting program. BTW, i mean comparing to most SC progamers nowadays he's just not fast :D Peace

[benkenser]

@Khoalam91

He could be faster if he goes on diet

[TheZittar]

@benkenser shut THE FUCK up !!! you noob July is THE BEST Zerg player after JaeDong ! He will rape you with 1 hand behind his back so shut THE F*** up you complexed little child !

[benkenser]

@TheZittar

July Zerg = you = fat = slow

[TheZittar]

@benkenser just because he has more pounds that he naturaly hase to have doesent mean he is slow you dumbass he holds the world record cause obviously you dont know ! JulyZerg has the world record for fastest apm(816) so dont talk when you dont know anything...stupid complexed kid

[viccelito]

@TheZittar and apm means so much without strategy.. having the highest apm doesnt really prove anything, any noob can spam keys and get high apm peaks.. July peaked his career a long time ago, he's not even top20 anymore.. but that doesnt even matter, he switched to SC2 (which he didnt event qualify for GSL season 2).. so get your head ouf of your ass and stop living in 2005.

[benkenser]

@TheZittar

Please don't pretend you know stuff and just shut up. you just made a fool of yourself. Read other comments and speak, fat kid

[TheZittar]

@benkenser and please dont speak when you dont know sh*t about SC and pro gamers ;)

[anextremelylongname]

@TheZittar

APM means nothing bro.

I've beaten 900 by spamming, but who gives a fuck, spamming is only to warm up your fingers and APM isnt an accurate measure of skill.

[ryan180294]

@anextremelylongname APM might not be an ACCURATE measure of skill but

If you measure Useful APM then it definitely scales from newb to pro level.

[GraniteAge]

@benkenser well said. Hes fat.



[RMJ1984]

Man i miss fast Hydralisks :(

[ShindyK2]

@RMJ1984 I miss the old Hydra 75mineral, they looked like frigging sharks and tore crap apart very mineral efficient and small

[JKT84]

Could anyone tell what July's upgrades were this game? I may have missed it because his APM is insane, but I think that may have been a deciding factor.

[LordoftheJamesClan]

Epically great game

[Rayster84]

ROFL FUCKING at the stupid nal_ra idiot name. omfg stupid name lol nal RAWR

[SpawnRat]

GEEE GEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 25:30

[Edwuadu]

@MrHalek zer doesnt always lose, terran just always wins

[Edwuadu]

wow........amazing

[BladePenguin]

anyone kno what happened to boxer?

[ShindyK2]

@BladePenguin Playing under alias ManofOneWay in SC2, or everyone assumes so because he has insane win rate at ELL top matches (over 60%) and the only other account with about the same rate of win is slayer_boxer

[maelstromIV]

5:00

[RDE91]

hola n_n

[angelos7]

smooth fpvod. what kind of software did you use for this? mine drops fps and sometimes lag

[jeehoondevil]

@angelos7

yeah this video seems smoother than the original game

[2small2big]

only had like 2 expo's the whole game... wheres the sauron zerg!!!!!!!!

[Lubie225]

u culd see it, the video is just blurry

[TDBhCorsica]

the guy typed gg so rapidly you can barely see ;)

[kira103089]

july was so amazing.. what happened?! = /

[jeehoondevil]

@kira103089

wait what do you mean..

[smellsliketeens]

i think the zerg could have pulled through if they used mutas more. A good set of mutas could have easily wiped out the marines and sv's

[ViRGiNsOnLY]

@smellsliketeens SV's and marines counter mutas. In most cases mutas are only used for early game harass.

my 2 cents on this is july should've used more tech units. He stuck to mass hydra and ling, which gets owned by upgraded mnm. When he was about to win, with so many swarms in boxer's natural, he just made pure lings, and that gave boxer breathing room.

[Edwuadu]

@smellsliketeens lol...... marines own mutas

[IRRULE]

starcraft has to be one of the coolest rts game around.

[cookiekoen]

I love Asians and there videogames ^^

[sumfattytuna]

@cookiekoen I love whites and their drugs ^^

[TheSoulDestroyer]

I like to watch to FPVOD videos :D

[codygautreau]

no. he can't.

[josue679]

i love shrimps ;P

[tempohyeah]

protoss ftw

[zythepsarian]

damn, zergs were on the offensive for most of the game, then boom ded, what a match

[GKFC]

Really?

For the first 10 minutes Zerg was contained and turtling. The first offensive attack was a dreadful drop right on top of turrets and Terran defense. Their subsequent attacks were largely useless. Decent drop at 13 minutes, but Boxer didn't really seem to care.

Broke out of the contain at 17 minutes. Is that when you say he's on the offensive?

Can't let Terran just sit back like that without being regularly harassed and expect to win. Especially against Boxer.

[Tomasz3kk]

gg, I think playing with zergs is very hard

[Sonar009]

I find it amusing that boxer apparently knew exactly where the first Zerg drop would be.

*cue Admiral Ackbar*

[DJaeger]

So the zerg player just gave up....?

[MKGespenst]

Dam Boxer always has epic comebacks to most of his games XD awesome

[parkxi]

Terran is definitely the hardest race to control, but if properly macroed, the strongest.

[fuckmerimless69]

no race is the "strongest" but i agree terran are alot harder to handle at first

[powerfulkingj]

i love terran :P

[MasterDilnath]

@fuckmerimless69 Exscuse me but harder? When i was a beginner i found them easiest to handle really...

[jorumpl]

the hardest race to control is protoss in my opinion, they got the least units, so you need to know what to build (sure u neede in other races too) and they got the highest tech tree and the most spell casts, therefor zerg is easiest to play, because nearly no spells, terran is between

[RoaringMan]

@jorumpl I think that the Protoss are the easiest to play. Micro wise, they have little to do, the peak coming around Storm or possibly Reaver drops. Macro, they also don't have too much on their hands to deal with, as they don't expand as much as Zerg or Terran. Terran are medium (Zerg being hardest) as they require little macro ( Stims is not that hard to remember) and they require a lot of Micro. Zerg require a very large amount of macro and a bit of micro. Macro is hard due to larvae

[jorumpl]

ya i know what you mean, you can see it from all different angles, starcraft is just too balanced to say which race is really the best, even if zerg was the hardest to control, you still can own protoss and vice versa, but from that point of view i can agree with you

[danieltian]

not really... you should expand more than terran as protoss since terran either turtle and go mech, or MnM which is extremely cheap.

[reallysecretusername]

@augustmaple dude wtf are you rambling about? usually terrans turtle (especially flash) but sometimes they make a fairly early push. but they arent the strongest 10 minutes into the game man.

[ertytref]

@reallysecretusername

Well, if you turtle with Terran against any decent player you will lose. You always see the pros being really active with dropships and tanks. And if anything, I would give the edge to Terran and midgame simply because they need few techs to be effective. And btw, Flash is #1 right now and he does not turtle. He defends his base, there is a difference.

[sumfattytuna]

@augustmaple the races are equal, the maps on the other hand.....

[jihadsoup]

How the heck did boxer pull that one off?!?!

[cownerd1]

tencicle

[panterafist]

Protoss is by far the easiest to control. If you are not pro, your best chance is to play protoss. Less, but more expensive unit. You only need creativity and very good control

Zerg will be the hardest, but may benefit slow players in terms of unit productions. Bad control and everything will melt in no time

[ILCAC3]

meh i think zerg is my race; zerg needs good economic control and macro. its ez to get economic control cuz you can quickly produce the needed workers quickly and in masses. however it is very hard to win without hotkeys for zerg micro is mostly in groups, not individual units like protoss.

[ZAKUMHORNTAIL]

agreed. i hate zerg

[underwatercookie]

I'd like to see you try and engage terran tanks/vultures/goliaths while deploying shuttle + templar psi storms in a huge battle. :)

[88naka]

are serious ? protoss build are fucking crazy. you have 2 corsair killed or 2 shuttle is most likely GG for you.

[thenubip]

not agreed, im not pro and my first win was with zerg.

[panterafist]

I was talking about players who are better than normal, but < then progammers/good amateurs

[unitD7]

wow O_O!

[IWasJustChecking]

What is the function of that 'orange gas' from Defiler?

[LilLovesickRomeo]

The "Orange Gas" is called "Dark Swarm".

It stops all units under it from being damaged by ranged attacks; the only ranged exceptions to this are: nukes, lurkers, firebats, archons, reavers, tanks under siege mode, and spells.

Although, burrowed lurkers under Dark Swarm are invincible to tanks under siege mode, I dunno the mechanics behind that one though

[bababu7]

The Seige tank "Splash Damage" is what hits when the orange cloud is up. Not the direct shot. And seige splash can only hit ground units above ground.

Lurker's and Firebats "line damage", which has different mechanics then the tanks, hits underground targets as well as those above ground despite the orange cloud.

[kfoulston]

not true. Tanks Splash still hit the Lurkers underground.

[xxbluejay21]

lol ur stupid. tank splash doesnt hit burrowed lurkers under swarm. bababu7's explanation is mostly right but theres something wrong. its not that burrowed units are not hit by splash, its that dark swarm distorts the damage 2 pixels in front, and tank damage does 1 pixel splash, which means it doesnt reach the lurker because of the smaller surface area. if a hydra was on top of it, the splah would reach the lurker and kill it. so if another lurker/zergling were near it that lurker would die.

[stayphrosty]

yes, bluejay is correct, so while usually ineffective, sieged tanks can, on occasion, deal damage to unit bunches under dark swarm.

[LilLovesickRomeo]

Then how come my burrowed lurkers die under dark swarm from tank splash when the tank hits a hydra on top of the lurker? =[

[xxbluejay21]

read my response to kfoulston's comment plz

[Devourer09]

In other words... The exceptions are splash damage...

[hyky68]

Basically, only melee attacks and splash damages will hurt the units inside the orange gas. So if you were to say... attack zerglings inside the orange gas with dragoons or goliaths or wraiths or hydralisks, they won't do any damage.

However, with siege mode tanks, firebats, zerglings, zealots and other melee attackers / splash attackers, u can do damage.

[mauriicio89]

come on

[ShniWalker]

LOl nice game.. i enjoyed all the 25 mins : O

i wonder how boxer won the zerg was leading all the game,and in the final he lost :o

[Mr2Azn4You]

lol. That's because the Emperor's strategy is about comebacks :P

[PotatoManz]

The best speicies i like are Zerg's Zerglings because they got good speed and can rush and destroy the enemy quickly if u find them fast.

[hubomba]

Insane micro with the defiler.

[Apok11111]

LoL, 1 ensnare and the Wrights become visible:)

[Kolpher46]

although the toss will win, when do they win major tournaments?

[KAKADNE]

зерги рулят!!!

[michael1400pizdec]

aga :)

[tzoche]

The truth is that if you take 3 total newbs at starcraft, each one choses a different race, they practice for 2 weeks and after you put them fight. 80% of the time the protoss will win.

[raymanlegy]

well... Protoss requires like No micro if the races went head on protoss obviously win if they didnt control their men. Storm here storm there. Reaver kill here and there lol.

[keymaker2112]

You DO know that toss is the "weak" race right now in the metagame?

[MYSOWNSWORLDS]

stupid

[JDRC07]

That's not true, protoss have been performing poorly in the professional circuit because most of the pro-protoss players have been mediocre lately.  The fact that Bisu is still performing well means it's not a mechanical problem but rather a problem with the players.

[MrCosteffective]

Giggidy

[Jinisinsane]

because toss has the simplest concept off the 3 races

[EnderMSS]

horseporkpig, you've obviously never played Starcraft before.

The statement you just made only holds true for players running at 30 APM or less. After you pass the retard stage (no offense intended to people with disabilities) Starcraft is balanced.

Even D- players on ICCup know, and experience this.

[88naka]

wow , your r so genius. retardz.

[23197265]

One sided much??? All three races take skill you use dumbass...who cares toss are op but they can be over runned by zerg's mass numbers, every race has a flaw

[truescorpio14]

yeah four zerglings can kill a dragoon even thought they only cost 100 mineral and no gas clearly there are weaknesses within the races and within units matchups that creates the strategy

[raymanlegy]

Yeah you obviously don't play starcraft well horseporkpig. Protoss are over powered but look at how much their units cost and how many units they can produce... Zealots take 2 food to build and so does like everyother unit except probes lol. Zerg has large masses, weak and cheap. But when microed well and upgraded they are not weak at all. You have to have strategy to play this game you can't just send head on...

[Windwalkerranger]

This is unbelievable play by both sides. Boxer is not normal.

[d4n13lr0x]

WOw.. July has pimp apm for a zerg But Boxer is just too good!

[ILuvhFood]

i wonder if blizzard knew about muta stack, sci vessel self irradiate, manlots, avoiding lurker spines, etc

[88naka]

well... has more then 10 years of patching. They know what is better to the game fagzor.

[elfpballer6]

that was freakin insane

[PsychicAzn]

I have no fucking idea, what's going on the screen

[ConstantC4]

ima go play some SC

[teoteous]

There has been many pros in Starcraft that come and go buy BoxeR is still my favorite. Probably because he's so good and a Terran player for the most part.

[bball2city]

Man I can't believe boxer pulled that out, that was awesome

[cheecheepong]

yes. that's why he was the best of 2007...

[Armalizilto]

who won?

[Dragonwing101]

SlayerS_BoxeR did

[Armalizilto]

He's UNSTOPPABLE!!

[Jpcristel]

Wow, that's how the true Zerg Swarm would work, quickly, deadly, slyly...

[silentdeath098]

LOL fail at 9:50

[juego3000]

So Slayers_boxer is the guy with the Psi disrupter..

Julizerg is awesome with zergs...

who's good with the protoss ?... good.. I mean like the best protoss player is ? :P

[DrummyJCZ]

bisu, stork etc

[silentdeath098]

Ehh TheRock is pretty good

[Backdrop2772]

Bisu is definitely one of the top protoss players.

[fremoq]

w/o dark swarm the zerg would be totally defenseless against most terran players :O

[iVVES]

a zerg? that sounds kinda more for toss.. tvp is sitll ok at the end. but tvz is hard for t late game.

[am0ni]

ok granted july did lose, but i still like july zerg better than box, cause im a zerg player. but box is epic. coming back from that is unbelievable. boxer ftw