the picture at the top of the stairs is of a man on his knees and he is wearing glasses and the lights from the camera caused the glow on the glasses(not glowing eyes). Look close and you can see the glasses
so we are to believe that the ground is indian burial ground and it is haunted. then why has nothing happened in the house since then? The truth...a family of 6 were slaughtered and the person responsible is in prison...The lie...Haunted house and the Lutz's whole story.
I just have a problem believing someone would uproot their 5 kids and a wife after a 28 day stay at a beautiful home and also leaving their jobs and risking public redicule like they had. think about it. really?
i wish someone would interview me while being hooked up to a lie-detector and let me tell the things i've seen and lived, God himself knows i'm telling the truth. you all would be surprised what goes on in the spirit world.
unbelief is what keeps the demonic powerful. indians also are known for having knowledge and power in the spirit world and that opens doors and curses to all.
when the reporter told george that weber thinks hes lying his eyes became huge with shock. this man is totally lying and he just got caught red handed. it just looks phony from the geico. lol.
@MysteriousGirlof2011 That wasn't shock. George was well-aware of Weber's claims over the years. They sued each other back in 1979.
And Weber's claims don't make sense. If he knew it was a hoax, why did he put a clause in his contract for the Lutzes to take a polygraph test which, if they failed, would mean they lose all rights to their story? If Weber knew it was a hoax, there would be no reason for that clause, and he would know the Luzes couldn't sign it.
A whole family getting murdered by another family member makes for a great reason for why a house would be haunted, but that happens often enough that there would be alot of haunted houses if they became haunted every time!
Even to this day he appears to be upset by it. Again, all of our behavior (acted, spoken and thoughts) serves a purpose, nothing is by accident. What did this guy do this for? Skeptics never fucking entertain the fact that he could be telling the truth. How self serving is that to the "skeptic"? Holy shit, the skeptics say it was all an act/hoax, well fuck me, I would have never thought in my lifetime that a skeptic would have said anything like that.
Would you put your family through this? He seems like a pretty typical guy. The skeptics are the damn weirdos. You need to have a balance between skepticism and gullibility. What would you put your kids through that for? Answer that. If it were just the two of them, then I could believe a bit more that it could have been a hoax. But what would you put your children through something like this for? Would you put your kids through that? A lifetime of torment.
One thought I have, is this, what did this guy (Lutz) do this hoax for? What purpose did his behavior serve, what was it's function within himself? What for? This guy's life has never been peaceful, nor normal, nor predictable or safe. To say it was a hoax is a bit naive. Jesus, what the hell would you do this for? Money - are you kidding me, this is the only motivation this guy could have? 300K, that's it. Like he said, he sucked at making it a great hoax.
@dobbins2550 grow up asshole. of course his motive is money. there is no such thing as a real haunted house dumbshit. its hard to believe idiots like you.
I can't stand Joe Nickles ..... being a skeptic is one thing ... but he is on EVERY show about the paranormal ...including shows about Cryptid animals. He only wants to make money by going on these shows to be the "skeptic" ... he's not just skeptical he's rude! In my opinion there is more scientific proof that something is out there than saying there isn't. Do I believe its the dead rising?...not necessarily .... but there is something that causes certain places to have activity!
You make a lot of sense. I believe that there are just some things that cannot be explained away. I am not sure what it is, but you cannot make a blanket statement like, "There are no ghost or whatever."
@fuzzballz29 He had antisocial personality disorder, Research it, its the leading cause in all murders, the people who have it feal no remorse for other peoples sufferage and enjoy watching it. that plus drugs and abuse is a path way right to fatal crimes and its genetic so his father would of had it to, Which explains why he beat his family. People with this disorder have abusive relation ships and feal its the only way to make their point.
Lol ronald defeo was possessed? He has antisocial personality disorder which is documented, which explains the fighting the abuse of narcotics and such. If you are raised terribly and have antisocial personality disorder it is almost 100% that you will become a killer, Infact 99% of killers have it. It is characterized has having no remorse for people in pain and enjoying seeing other people and animals suffering. This plus drugs is a deadly deadly combination, And its genetic. his dad had it.
Look what happened to all the people associated with this house. The Defeos: dead! Paranormal Investigator Ed Warren: dead. Warren's bitter rival Stephen Kaplan: dead. Author Jay Anson: dead. James Brolin's career: dead.
I HATE Joe Nickles ..... it's not that he's a skeptic....it's that he's an asshole of a skeptic. He's just so damn rude and close minded to anything paranormal. He's been on Monsterquest, MysteryQuest, and most of Travel channel's paranormal documentaries. Some of the extremes he goes to to "debunk" photos and video are RIDICULOUS ....so much so that it's easier to just believe in said photo than believe in his "remake" of it.
2:06 - 2:12 Pretty much the explanation why Mr. W is like a fly on shit when it comes to saying the Lutz's are lying. Think about it, Its gotta be killing him that Jay had so much success when it could have been him,
liars... in 1978 he told the last night he saw his wife face older now he says he couldnot move and saw her levitating this was olanned from he start, the house was cheap they never intnded toliv there and did to make up the story upon the killings this is all bull, only idiots and liars see ghosts
@winstonlegthigh99 Christopher has given interviews in 2005, where he said the haunting was real but exaggerated. Daniel is the subject of an upcoming documentary called "My Amityville Horror," where he gives an extensive interview.
i just went to google to check out george's death and wilke mentioned in oct-2000 , george and his wife both took lie detector tests..and both passed !!! so who knows.....
can you take a tour as a tourist throughout the house?? I'd Like 2 b there! if that house still there, i mean, this is the 1st time i heard bout' the house
no, you cant, its a private residence now. and the family that lives there has put up with years of tourists bombarding thier property and vandalism. they even changed the signature windows and street address in the hopes of deterring tourists. while it would be cool to tour, its someones home now, and should be respected as such.
these skeptics you see being interviewed should go live in the house and then see what happens...they talk because they never been inside the house or ever stayed a few days....then i would like to see what they have to say...so experience the place before saying blah blah, cant be.
ronnie killed is father and shot his kother once, someone else shot her the 2nd time with a different gun, while ronnie was out of the house dawn defeo shot the kids, when ronnie got back he killed dawn, he then got help to put his father and dawn back into bed, he then went to work and started to make up his story, webber ronnies lawyer got rich with the jay anson book and movie, the lutz's had 3 years to pass the lie detector test, read Ric Osuna book .
Osuna's book is rubbish. Bullet trajectories show the father was killed in bed, not moved at all. One of the bullets that hit the mother got so damaged that the police were unable to determine if it came from the same rifle, but they WERE able to determine it came from a .35 Marlin. Osuna and others take this and think it proves there was another gunman. Quite a leap.
Ronnie killed them all. He confessed in court during his trial.
I think the neighbors probably did hear the shots, but didn't want to get involved.
There were 6 victims. Evidence shows 2 WERE awake when shot, it *seems* that 2 others were likely awake.
Then you have the father, who was the first one shot, so he was likely asleep.
Lastly there was Dawn, who likely died last, but it is unclear if she was awake or not - her body was found in a natural sleeping position, which makes it all that more interesting.
I think that the neighbours had all heard Ronnie's fantasies that the family had mob ties and that, when the murders happened, the neighbours that had heard something weren't going to report it and risk that maybe, for once, Ronnie was telling truth.
Ronnie DeFeo told Hans Holzer that the house was haunted. This is in Holzer's book "Murder in Amityville."
Ronnie has later said he was just telling Holzer what he felt Holzer wanted to hear. I think Ronnie and his lawyer were getting a fee (or a percentage) from Holzer's book.
Ronnie has since stuck with the story that the house was not haunted at all. The Stories about him being given the gun by a figure in black and hearing voices were part of a failed insanity defense during the trial.
About Ronnie getting a gun from a hooded figure in black, according to a reporter, he was contacted years later by a former police officer.
Apparently, the police officer told this reporter that the house was under police watch because of the drugs that Ronnie was allegedly selling.
Anyway, the police officer told the reporter that he saw the older sister walk out of the house in a dark, hooded coat carrying the gun that was allegedly used to kill the family.
The reporter's name is Rick Moran, and he's not really a reporter, but more of a freelance writer. Rick wrote about the DEA agent watching the house on the night of the murders, but his evidence is simply not supported by the police evidence.
At the website amityvillefiles d-o-t-c-o-m I wrote an article debunking Moran's story. Way too much to cut/paste here.
Rick thinks Dawn (the older sister) helped with the murders. I do not. I think Ronnie acted alone without help from Dawn or any demons.
even if ronny was drunk that nighty when he killed his family,how cld he just go on killing six ppl like that.....ok so he killed his parents bcos they were abusive bt y dd he kill his siblings...?
I don't think Ronnie killed his parents due to abuse. Ronnie was 23 - he could have moved out of the house 5 years prior to the murders.
Ronnie was on probation due to his stealing an outboard motor. A month or so prior to the murder, he faked a robbery, stealing the payroll from the auto dealership he and his father worked at. It just might be that his father discovered proof that the robbery was faked and was going to turn him in. Who knows.
but y dd he kill those innocent children?if u cld watch "historys mysteries history channel-the ammityvill haunting"on utube it shows that the house was haunted even when the defeos were living there,and they had experienced the same as the lutzs,it shows how mr.defeo plced sacred ornaments all over the yard and inthe house...all of a sudden..bcos he thinks there is a devil on his back....
I think Ronnie only meant to kill his father. i don't think he planned it in advance. And when it happened, he panicked. And when his mom started to rise from bed (possibly screaming), I think he panicked and shot her.
At that point I think the enormity of what he did was hitting him. He didn't know what to do.
I think he killed the rest of the family because he was afraid of leaving witnesses.
I have to say, something very similar happened in our house. Very similar in so many ways. I believe these people. Not sure about the psychic stuff but I do believe them.
You need to understand the era. Big Foot/ UFOs/Bermuda Triangle... it was a ripe era for such a scam. When the 'ghosts' lift $5,000 'cash' right off the table into oblivion with them, only a fool would buy that. Something subtle happen there? Subtle is a level that is livable. I saw the film back then AND read their story recorded by Jay Anson. The main points match so only some Hollywood is added (eg. axe over the head dream). Even That's Incredible looked at it in 1979 and found nothing.
sorry about that... the lawyer dude that defended De Foe. The Lutz orginally went to him, he ouldn't write it. In this video he said he ould write his own books. Also, any books about the Amittyville Horror, I would love to read, so if you know any names, please don't hesistate to tell!!!
Weber never ended up writing his book. Gerard Sullivan (the prosecutor in the case) did one, though. Its very good and titled "High Hopes." Its all about the murders, nothing about the haunting.
Stephen Kaplan felt the haunting was a hoax. He wrote a book about it called "The Amityville Horror Conspiracy." Its written in diary format and does a good job taking the reader back to the 70s to see how everything unfolded - but his case against the haunting is extremely weak and almost laughable.
this guy is unbelievable seriously if it was all fake why in the fuck would they leave all their shit in the house and never return jesus christ just shut the fuck up dude
Defeo was a drug addict (took heroin and was even drunk at this time). He just had a fuckin bad trip. People taking hard drugs tend to become paranoid and stuff like that depending their psychological state. Maybe something really anormal happened in the house but it's not as big as in the movies or even in the book. There's a lot of anormal stuff going on in a lot of places but the only difference with this case is that is the most publicized.
Defeo pleaded insanity to get a lesser sentence or to be placed in an asylum. That always happens when someone goes off and kills a whole bunch of people or even just the one. It didn't work and he still sits in prison today.
Joe Nickel is a guy i have seen interviewed hundreds of times.Nice guy but,He is the kind of skeptic that could get punched in the face buy an invisible force and he still would'nt believe in any kind of force.However to Nikel's credit,He has disproved some Hauntings.
I totally agree with you about Joe Nickel, he really irritates me and I'm a very scientific paranormal investigator, but all he does is go in a house for 1 day and say...oh well nothing happened its not haunted...instead of looking at natural elements like infra sound, emf, etc that could cause the feeling of a ghost. I mean god forbid nothing happened the 1 day you were there. That doesnt mean jack.
When I was little me, my mom, and my big brother all took a trip down to amityville NY and went to the house...we went to the back door and just looked in the house...it felt so scary and wierd I just wanted to puke. That house is really frighting!
william webber is a fucking creep, how does he no what happened when i werent there to witness it, stupid fat prick!. the storey is realy ive been looking it up for a few week now it is no haox! freindship town thanks for puttin this on youtube :)!
ok so i beleive in spirits and that they can communicate with us, i think that this 'tale' in its bare truth is true. That there was something at that time in the house but as with all tales things are added to make us believeand the simple truth that there was an unwelcom spirit has been overshodowed by the media and the money making process
yeah, the story has been really exaggerated, first by the original novel, and by the press, and then by Hollywood (and now by the Internet)... But people still judge it as a hoax, thinking that everything they read about the haunting came from the lips of George and Kathy Lutz. And that's just not the case.
Please don't respond with, "So what." It kills any debate that the story may/may not be true and reflects poorly on you. If you've read what the Lutzes and critics have said over the yrs, we'll have a discussion. If not, you're paying attn to only 1 side of the story.
That isn't true. The priest did recant his claims. One edition changed the priest's car b/c the hood didn't open as described in the bk (crucial); there were other issues, too. Wm Weber claims he gave the Lutzes crime scene photos & their story spun from that; they did not "flee & never return" - they returned & had a garage sale! Newsday discounted their story; the neighbor kids played in the 'red room' - a storage area. This is on utube for those who missed the tv broadcasts.
The priest did not recant his claims. Your response shows you've watched the "That's Incredible" clip (which I uploaded) where Barbara Cromarty makes this claim about the priest recanting. I guess you tuned out when the narrator immediately follows this with "a transcript of the trial does not reflect the denial by the priest."
In the first edition of the book, the priest's car was described as "an old tan Ford." In later editions it changed to being a "blue Vega," and then later in the paperback editions it returned to being "an old tan Ford."
So if your claim is that it went from being a Vega to being a Ford due to the way the hood opened - how do you explain it originally being described as a Ford and then being changed to being a Vega? What does that show?
I agree with you. I truly believe that the Lutz's saw something and went through something if they were frightened enough to not return to the house to get their belongings.
I followed this story since the beginning and went to see it in the theatre back in 1977 I believe it was. Bought the book in 1982. Followed everything. Great evil haunting story. Until you get old enought to apply some common sense. After following it for the 30 years and reading everything possible... no, I call it a hoax. They got financially in over their heads. The ghosts even took $5,000 cash?! Too much....
You say Weber gave the Lutzes crime scene photos and the Lutzes created their story around that. So tell me what part of the Lutzes' story comes from anything in the crime scene photos?
And as far as the Lutzes returning to hold a garage sale - that again is false. There was an auction of the Lutzes' property held by a professional auctioneer. This is verified in Stephen Kaplan's book. And if you know anything about the case, you'll realize that Kaplan was trying to prove the case a hoax.
So Newsday discounted the Lutzes' story. That's their opinion. And they might have had a motive. As the story became popular the house was beseiged by tourists who would flock to the house, making noise late at night and even vandalize the property. The police were sick and tired of "babysitting the house" (as one officer was quoted as saying). I believe the then-editor of Newsday was related to the chief of police - so they may have simply been trying to help by discounting the Lutzes' claims.
The boy who drowned was black; the kid in the photo is clearly Caucasian. Get out a law book and look up the lawsuits against the Lutzes (due by noon tomorrow, so get to it!). Even the priest recanted what happened to him, killing 1/2 the bk. The details in the bk changed from printing to printing -what else do you need?
What else do I need? How about the truth! The priest never recanted; the changing details in the book were minor, and didn't involve any of the supernatural events (they were either corrections or changing names due to legal issues); and why must the "ghost boy" in the photo be the same black boy who drowned?
BTW, most of the legal cases the Lutzes were involved with were INSTIGATED BY the Lutzes. Weber's suit was a countersuit - he didn't make his claims until after the Lutzes sued him first.
Trouble is, the people there that night say there were no children present (which makes sense - why bring a child to a haunted house in the middle of the night while you're trying to do a serious investigation)...
I also think its not a true ghost in that photo. I think its an accidental shot of one of the investigators.
Kaplan's "expose" was 20 years in the making, but ended up being little more than his diary from 1976 to 1979 - and he tried to prove the story a hoax by comparing various newspaper articles and Jay Anson's book for discrepancies.
My favorite part of Kaplan's book is in the Feb 15, 1976 entry. He is asked by Newsday to give his opinion on the haunting, to which he replies, "I can't give a personal opinion unless I personally investigate."
Then 4 days later, George Lutz postpones Kaplan's investigation because (according to Kaplan) he wants to wait for the media attention to die down.
Kaplan gets angry, phones up Newsday and declares the haunting to be a hoax (and this is before he did ANY investigating).
No, the thing that scares me is that OTHER people actually believe this baloney. I got over my fear of ghosts when I was about eight years old. Still sleep with the light on, sweetie?
This is fucking stupid. They gave ONE skeptic about 30 seconds of air time in a 20 minute segment. Way to balance it out!
And it may just be me, but I don't trust a photo by a bunch of hippy 'psychics' with no independent, scientific supervision. It's more likely than not just to be a picture of a normal kid.
There's an episode of "History's Mysteries" that deals with the Amityville Horror. Itairs every now and then on the History Channel, and is more balanced. And there are others which are also unbalanced, favoring the hoax position.
The mass grave is actually a few miles away. (Or so I heard)
I was asking more about the relation of the pig to the Indians, as Jodi was a rather important part of the haunting. His other incarnations don't appear to be linked to Indians either.
my grandparents are burried in that mass grave a few miles from that house, so its not right next, the defeo grave of the murdered family is 2 head stones away also, kinda freaky
The whole "they stole from the Exorcist" thing is so false, I watched the Exorcist and read/watched/studied the Amityville Horror, they are nothing alike, plus levatating is commonly reported in hauntings so it really dosen't proove anything.
Why is the fact that Ronnie lied a measure of the hoax? If terrible events can cause echoes that we perceive as supernatural, then wouldn't a drunk junkie killing his whole family be enough of a cause? (Not to mention, that would be the quickest explanation for the ghost of a little boy in the hallway, wouldn't it?)
(cont.) The overall impression I've always gotten from this story is that the "psychics" are full of crap, but the Lutz's don't seem to be. They had nothing to gain by lying (except money, which they made no effort to capitalize on), they didn't take advantage of the fame very much, and a whole fiscally-frugal family doesn't just run away and abandon everything they own on a lark or for no reason.
(cont.) Sure, people's imaginations can run away with them, but is that enough to cause parents to rip their kids away from everything they own and start over? I mean, what scares a man of my father's generation so badly that he doesn't even try to go back for anything? And his face...unless he's an Oscar-winning actor by trade, I'd say I've rarely ever seen a man look so, well, haunted. Memories may fade, but I'm betting SOMETHING must have happened.
The lie detector test was paid for by American International Pictures, not a tabloid or the Lutzes. The results of the test appeared in a tabloid. You can see the results of the test by visiting amityvillehorror dot com.
The killer was on tv, he admitted it was all a hoax. He also said his sister helped in the killing, then he killed her. I live 3 minutes away from that house
Go to the forum I list on my profile page - there's a lot of info there, including what the children have said in the past and why they don't talk today.
i was bored and me n my cousins decided to go by the house lol man it was sooo creepy, next time i wanna go inside...if i ever dare to but i really want to lol
the picture at the top of the stairs is of a man on his knees and he is wearing glasses and the lights from the camera caused the glow on the glasses(not glowing eyes). Look close and you can see the glasses
IamNobodysHW 1 month ago
so we are to believe that the ground is indian burial ground and it is haunted. then why has nothing happened in the house since then? The truth...a family of 6 were slaughtered and the person responsible is in prison...The lie...Haunted house and the Lutz's whole story.
IamNobodysHW 1 month ago
I just have a problem believing someone would uproot their 5 kids and a wife after a 28 day stay at a beautiful home and also leaving their jobs and risking public redicule like they had. think about it. really?
721rem 2 months ago
i wish someone would interview me while being hooked up to a lie-detector and let me tell the things i've seen and lived, God himself knows i'm telling the truth. you all would be surprised what goes on in the spirit world.
unbelief is what keeps the demonic powerful. indians also are known for having knowledge and power in the spirit world and that opens doors and curses to all.
721rem 2 months ago
MyTiger44!!! maybe you are a asshole????? my parents fucking house is haunted!!! so yes there are suchs things like haunted houses!!!
TheShedevil77 6 months ago
How old, what year was this house built????
nikemac84 7 months ago
when the reporter told george that weber thinks hes lying his eyes became huge with shock. this man is totally lying and he just got caught red handed. it just looks phony from the geico. lol.
MysteriousGirlof2011 7 months ago
@MysteriousGirlof2011 That wasn't shock. George was well-aware of Weber's claims over the years. They sued each other back in 1979.
And Weber's claims don't make sense. If he knew it was a hoax, why did he put a clause in his contract for the Lutzes to take a polygraph test which, if they failed, would mean they lose all rights to their story? If Weber knew it was a hoax, there would be no reason for that clause, and he would know the Luzes couldn't sign it.
Tanner1940 7 months ago
The son said that it WAS REAL and that SATAN was behind it all.
bustballz 7 months ago
A whole family getting murdered by another family member makes for a great reason for why a house would be haunted, but that happens often enough that there would be alot of haunted houses if they became haunted every time!
stitchesful 8 months ago
Even to this day he appears to be upset by it. Again, all of our behavior (acted, spoken and thoughts) serves a purpose, nothing is by accident. What did this guy do this for? Skeptics never fucking entertain the fact that he could be telling the truth. How self serving is that to the "skeptic"? Holy shit, the skeptics say it was all an act/hoax, well fuck me, I would have never thought in my lifetime that a skeptic would have said anything like that.
dobbins2550 9 months ago
Would you put your family through this? He seems like a pretty typical guy. The skeptics are the damn weirdos. You need to have a balance between skepticism and gullibility. What would you put your kids through that for? Answer that. If it were just the two of them, then I could believe a bit more that it could have been a hoax. But what would you put your children through something like this for? Would you put your kids through that? A lifetime of torment.
dobbins2550 9 months ago
One thought I have, is this, what did this guy (Lutz) do this hoax for? What purpose did his behavior serve, what was it's function within himself? What for? This guy's life has never been peaceful, nor normal, nor predictable or safe. To say it was a hoax is a bit naive. Jesus, what the hell would you do this for? Money - are you kidding me, this is the only motivation this guy could have? 300K, that's it. Like he said, he sucked at making it a great hoax.
dobbins2550 9 months ago
@dobbins2550 grow up asshole. of course his motive is money. there is no such thing as a real haunted house dumbshit. its hard to believe idiots like you.
MyTiger44 8 months ago
LOL! You can tell this show was made my non-believers. They don't let Hans Holzer tell the story. This show is bum :/
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ZacariasNaima 1 year ago
I can't stand Joe Nickles ..... being a skeptic is one thing ... but he is on EVERY show about the paranormal ...including shows about Cryptid animals. He only wants to make money by going on these shows to be the "skeptic" ... he's not just skeptical he's rude! In my opinion there is more scientific proof that something is out there than saying there isn't. Do I believe its the dead rising?...not necessarily .... but there is something that causes certain places to have activity!
Trueghostgirl 1 year ago
@Trueghostgirl
You make a lot of sense. I believe that there are just some things that cannot be explained away. I am not sure what it is, but you cannot make a blanket statement like, "There are no ghost or whatever."
dobbins2550 9 months ago
@fuzzballz29 He had antisocial personality disorder, Research it, its the leading cause in all murders, the people who have it feal no remorse for other peoples sufferage and enjoy watching it. that plus drugs and abuse is a path way right to fatal crimes and its genetic so his father would of had it to, Which explains why he beat his family. People with this disorder have abusive relation ships and feal its the only way to make their point.
November10th1775USMC 1 year ago
Lol ronald defeo was possessed? He has antisocial personality disorder which is documented, which explains the fighting the abuse of narcotics and such. If you are raised terribly and have antisocial personality disorder it is almost 100% that you will become a killer, Infact 99% of killers have it. It is characterized has having no remorse for people in pain and enjoying seeing other people and animals suffering. This plus drugs is a deadly deadly combination, And its genetic. his dad had it.
November10th1775USMC 1 year ago
Look what happened to all the people associated with this house. The Defeos: dead! Paranormal Investigator Ed Warren: dead. Warren's bitter rival Stephen Kaplan: dead. Author Jay Anson: dead. James Brolin's career: dead.
pmcmanus420 1 year ago
I HATE Joe Nickles ..... it's not that he's a skeptic....it's that he's an asshole of a skeptic. He's just so damn rude and close minded to anything paranormal. He's been on Monsterquest, MysteryQuest, and most of Travel channel's paranormal documentaries. Some of the extremes he goes to to "debunk" photos and video are RIDICULOUS ....so much so that it's easier to just believe in said photo than believe in his "remake" of it.
Trueghostgirl 1 year ago
2:06 - 2:12 Pretty much the explanation why Mr. W is like a fly on shit when it comes to saying the Lutz's are lying. Think about it, Its gotta be killing him that Jay had so much success when it could have been him,
TigertailzBezerk 1 year ago
Ha. Lutz got caught in a lie. Doesn't suck when ppl u trust spill the beans.
martincommrad 1 year ago
liars... in 1978 he told the last night he saw his wife face older now he says he couldnot move and saw her levitating this was olanned from he start, the house was cheap they never intnded toliv there and did to make up the story upon the killings this is all bull, only idiots and liars see ghosts
badsign1980 1 year ago
Weber is a shady piece of shit.
SimplyRisque 1 year ago
Do any of the Lutz children have facebook? Imagine if Kellan Lutz was one of the real actual children
Phil19780 2 years ago
Are there any recent interviews with the children now they're all grown?
winstonlegthigh99 2 years ago
@winstonlegthigh99 Christopher has given interviews in 2005, where he said the haunting was real but exaggerated. Daniel is the subject of an upcoming documentary called "My Amityville Horror," where he gives an extensive interview.
FriendshipTown 1 year ago 2
3 hundred thousand dollars is nothing
APRIL62318 2 years ago
i just went to google to check out george's death and wilke mentioned in oct-2000 , george and his wife both took lie detector tests..and both passed !!! so who knows.....
nateboytwo 2 years ago 2
can you take a tour as a tourist throughout the house?? I'd Like 2 b there! if that house still there, i mean, this is the 1st time i heard bout' the house
GioDaddy19 2 years ago
no, you cant, its a private residence now. and the family that lives there has put up with years of tourists bombarding thier property and vandalism. they even changed the signature windows and street address in the hopes of deterring tourists. while it would be cool to tour, its someones home now, and should be respected as such.
SoggyDogMedia 2 years ago
The photo of the boy is really creepy. I can't get over it.
OS253 2 years ago
looks like mark defeo
APRIL62318 2 years ago
these skeptics you see being interviewed should go live in the house and then see what happens...they talk because they never been inside the house or ever stayed a few days....then i would like to see what they have to say...so experience the place before saying blah blah, cant be.
leela1970 2 years ago
ronnie killed is father and shot his kother once, someone else shot her the 2nd time with a different gun, while ronnie was out of the house dawn defeo shot the kids, when ronnie got back he killed dawn, he then got help to put his father and dawn back into bed, he then went to work and started to make up his story, webber ronnies lawyer got rich with the jay anson book and movie, the lutz's had 3 years to pass the lie detector test, read Ric Osuna book .
andymc326 2 years ago
Osuna's book is rubbish. Bullet trajectories show the father was killed in bed, not moved at all. One of the bullets that hit the mother got so damaged that the police were unable to determine if it came from the same rifle, but they WERE able to determine it came from a .35 Marlin. Osuna and others take this and think it proves there was another gunman. Quite a leap.
Ronnie killed them all. He confessed in court during his trial.
Weber was involved in Holzer's book, not Anson's.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
How as Ronnie able to kill his family and not wake them up? The children would of been up, and how could the neighbors not hear it.
gooyzit 2 years ago
I think the neighbors probably did hear the shots, but didn't want to get involved.
There were 6 victims. Evidence shows 2 WERE awake when shot, it *seems* that 2 others were likely awake.
Then you have the father, who was the first one shot, so he was likely asleep.
Lastly there was Dawn, who likely died last, but it is unclear if she was awake or not - her body was found in a natural sleeping position, which makes it all that more interesting.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
I think that the neighbours had all heard Ronnie's fantasies that the family had mob ties and that, when the murders happened, the neighbours that had heard something weren't going to report it and risk that maybe, for once, Ronnie was telling truth.
thegirl44 2 years ago
um exscuse me chanugaya, um no,the defeos's never said the house was haunted,learn your facts moron
SR893 2 years ago
acctualy ronald did say that he was hearing voices so you're the one being a dick
FredsCousinTom 2 years ago
Ronnie DeFeo told Hans Holzer that the house was haunted. This is in Holzer's book "Murder in Amityville."
Ronnie has later said he was just telling Holzer what he felt Holzer wanted to hear. I think Ronnie and his lawyer were getting a fee (or a percentage) from Holzer's book.
Ronnie has since stuck with the story that the house was not haunted at all. The Stories about him being given the gun by a figure in black and hearing voices were part of a failed insanity defense during the trial.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
About Ronnie getting a gun from a hooded figure in black, according to a reporter, he was contacted years later by a former police officer.
Apparently, the police officer told this reporter that the house was under police watch because of the drugs that Ronnie was allegedly selling.
Anyway, the police officer told the reporter that he saw the older sister walk out of the house in a dark, hooded coat carrying the gun that was allegedly used to kill the family.
Have you heard this too?
newseditor72 2 years ago
The reporter's name is Rick Moran, and he's not really a reporter, but more of a freelance writer. Rick wrote about the DEA agent watching the house on the night of the murders, but his evidence is simply not supported by the police evidence.
At the website amityvillefiles d-o-t-c-o-m I wrote an article debunking Moran's story. Way too much to cut/paste here.
Rick thinks Dawn (the older sister) helped with the murders. I do not. I think Ronnie acted alone without help from Dawn or any demons.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
I didn't realize that. Thanks for clearing it up.
newseditor72 2 years ago
@FriendshipTown Dawn in the Possession , ( Amityville 2) did seem a little questionable.
Tom6093 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this. It was great!
I found the picture of the little boy very interesting. I wonder if he was one of the murder victims.
Timesobserver 2 years ago 3
If the house burnt down people would be turning up to get shovels of earth to take with them
lizzilobdob 2 years ago 2
The lawyer was the one making a commercial venture first. He's mad because the Lutz's made cash from the book and cut him out of the deal.
woodbinedrinker 2 years ago 11
even if ronny was drunk that nighty when he killed his family,how cld he just go on killing six ppl like that.....ok so he killed his parents bcos they were abusive bt y dd he kill his siblings...?
chanugaya 2 years ago
I don't think Ronnie killed his parents due to abuse. Ronnie was 23 - he could have moved out of the house 5 years prior to the murders.
Ronnie was on probation due to his stealing an outboard motor. A month or so prior to the murder, he faked a robbery, stealing the payroll from the auto dealership he and his father worked at. It just might be that his father discovered proof that the robbery was faked and was going to turn him in. Who knows.
But the "abusive parents" story is a copout.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
but y dd he kill those innocent children?if u cld watch "historys mysteries history channel-the ammityvill haunting"on utube it shows that the house was haunted even when the defeos were living there,and they had experienced the same as the lutzs,it shows how mr.defeo plced sacred ornaments all over the yard and inthe house...all of a sudden..bcos he thinks there is a devil on his back....
chanugaya 2 years ago
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APRIL62318 2 years ago
I think Ronnie only meant to kill his father. i don't think he planned it in advance. And when it happened, he panicked. And when his mom started to rise from bed (possibly screaming), I think he panicked and shot her.
At that point I think the enormity of what he did was hitting him. He didn't know what to do.
I think he killed the rest of the family because he was afraid of leaving witnesses.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
I have to say, something very similar happened in our house. Very similar in so many ways. I believe these people. Not sure about the psychic stuff but I do believe them.
xytxccd 2 years ago
I'm not saying i know the truth
but from what i'v thought was...
Who really knows he ronnie wasn't possessed i mean there life was perfect what was the motive of murdering his whole family?
deathbarbie666 2 years ago
You need to understand the era. Big Foot/ UFOs/Bermuda Triangle... it was a ripe era for such a scam. When the 'ghosts' lift $5,000 'cash' right off the table into oblivion with them, only a fool would buy that. Something subtle happen there? Subtle is a level that is livable. I saw the film back then AND read their story recorded by Jay Anson. The main points match so only some Hollywood is added (eg. axe over the head dream). Even That's Incredible looked at it in 1979 and found nothing.
firebirdhome 3 years ago 2
I have read the book. I do believe the Lutz's. I know want to read the other guy's book. Does anone know the name?
BellatrixLlvr 3 years ago
there are many books. name the "other guy" and i can tell you his book.
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
sorry about that... the lawyer dude that defended De Foe. The Lutz orginally went to him, he ouldn't write it. In this video he said he ould write his own books. Also, any books about the Amittyville Horror, I would love to read, so if you know any names, please don't hesistate to tell!!!
BellatrixLlvr 3 years ago
Weber never ended up writing his book. Gerard Sullivan (the prosecutor in the case) did one, though. Its very good and titled "High Hopes." Its all about the murders, nothing about the haunting.
Stephen Kaplan felt the haunting was a hoax. He wrote a book about it called "The Amityville Horror Conspiracy." Its written in diary format and does a good job taking the reader back to the 70s to see how everything unfolded - but his case against the haunting is extremely weak and almost laughable.
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
this guy is unbelievable seriously if it was all fake why in the fuck would they leave all their shit in the house and never return jesus christ just shut the fuck up dude
rocker126 3 years ago
boooooooooo........
firebirdhome 3 years ago
Defeo was a drug addict (took heroin and was even drunk at this time). He just had a fuckin bad trip. People taking hard drugs tend to become paranoid and stuff like that depending their psychological state. Maybe something really anormal happened in the house but it's not as big as in the movies or even in the book. There's a lot of anormal stuff going on in a lot of places but the only difference with this case is that is the most publicized.
MPBlessYou 3 years ago
Defeo pleaded insanity to get a lesser sentence or to be placed in an asylum. That always happens when someone goes off and kills a whole bunch of people or even just the one. It didn't work and he still sits in prison today.
Roujin120 3 years ago
Joe Nickel is a guy i have seen interviewed hundreds of times.Nice guy but,He is the kind of skeptic that could get punched in the face buy an invisible force and he still would'nt believe in any kind of force.However to Nikel's credit,He has disproved some Hauntings.
jays2474 3 years ago
I totally agree with you about Joe Nickel, he really irritates me and I'm a very scientific paranormal investigator, but all he does is go in a house for 1 day and say...oh well nothing happened its not haunted...instead of looking at natural elements like infra sound, emf, etc that could cause the feeling of a ghost. I mean god forbid nothing happened the 1 day you were there. That doesnt mean jack.
Trueghostgirl 3 years ago
When I was little me, my mom, and my big brother all took a trip down to amityville NY and went to the house...we went to the back door and just looked in the house...it felt so scary and wierd I just wanted to puke. That house is really frighting!
efron123456 3 years ago
I really wanna see that house!I have had wish about it since I read the book in 1988 or 1989.
Masoumeh93 3 years ago
william webber is a fucking creep, how does he no what happened when i werent there to witness it, stupid fat prick!. the storey is realy ive been looking it up for a few week now it is no haox! freindship town thanks for puttin this on youtube :)!
webstaaa1 3 years ago 2
ok so i beleive in spirits and that they can communicate with us, i think that this 'tale' in its bare truth is true. That there was something at that time in the house but as with all tales things are added to make us believeand the simple truth that there was an unwelcom spirit has been overshodowed by the media and the money making process
softplay2 4 years ago
yeah, the story has been really exaggerated, first by the original novel, and by the press, and then by Hollywood (and now by the Internet)... But people still judge it as a hoax, thinking that everything they read about the haunting came from the lips of George and Kathy Lutz. And that's just not the case.
FriendshipTown 4 years ago
Please don't respond with, "So what." It kills any debate that the story may/may not be true and reflects poorly on you. If you've read what the Lutzes and critics have said over the yrs, we'll have a discussion. If not, you're paying attn to only 1 side of the story.
lionhearted38 4 years ago
That isn't true. The priest did recant his claims. One edition changed the priest's car b/c the hood didn't open as described in the bk (crucial); there were other issues, too. Wm Weber claims he gave the Lutzes crime scene photos & their story spun from that; they did not "flee & never return" - they returned & had a garage sale! Newsday discounted their story; the neighbor kids played in the 'red room' - a storage area. This is on utube for those who missed the tv broadcasts.
lionhearted38 4 years ago
The priest did not recant his claims. Your response shows you've watched the "That's Incredible" clip (which I uploaded) where Barbara Cromarty makes this claim about the priest recanting. I guess you tuned out when the narrator immediately follows this with "a transcript of the trial does not reflect the denial by the priest."
FriendshipTown 4 years ago
In the first edition of the book, the priest's car was described as "an old tan Ford." In later editions it changed to being a "blue Vega," and then later in the paperback editions it returned to being "an old tan Ford."
So if your claim is that it went from being a Vega to being a Ford due to the way the hood opened - how do you explain it originally being described as a Ford and then being changed to being a Vega? What does that show?
FriendshipTown 4 years ago
I agree with you. I truly believe that the Lutz's saw something and went through something if they were frightened enough to not return to the house to get their belongings.
Baltimora1957 3 years ago
I followed this story since the beginning and went to see it in the theatre back in 1977 I believe it was. Bought the book in 1982. Followed everything. Great evil haunting story. Until you get old enought to apply some common sense. After following it for the 30 years and reading everything possible... no, I call it a hoax. They got financially in over their heads. The ghosts even took $5,000 cash?! Too much....
firebirdhome 3 years ago
You say Weber gave the Lutzes crime scene photos and the Lutzes created their story around that. So tell me what part of the Lutzes' story comes from anything in the crime scene photos?
And as far as the Lutzes returning to hold a garage sale - that again is false. There was an auction of the Lutzes' property held by a professional auctioneer. This is verified in Stephen Kaplan's book. And if you know anything about the case, you'll realize that Kaplan was trying to prove the case a hoax.
FriendshipTown 4 years ago
So Newsday discounted the Lutzes' story. That's their opinion. And they might have had a motive. As the story became popular the house was beseiged by tourists who would flock to the house, making noise late at night and even vandalize the property. The police were sick and tired of "babysitting the house" (as one officer was quoted as saying). I believe the then-editor of Newsday was related to the chief of police - so they may have simply been trying to help by discounting the Lutzes' claims.
FriendshipTown 4 years ago
If you've done any investigation into this case, you'd learn that all the Lutzes ever said about the red room was the following:
-Kathy came across it one day, hidden behind a shelving unit
-There was a horrible sewer-like odor eminating from the room, which seemed to have no source
-Their dog would cowar from the room for no reason
-It didn't appear on the blueprints of the house
The Lutzes found it odd for those reasons. It was not the passageway to Hell as portrayed in the books/movies.
FriendshipTown 4 years ago
The boy who drowned was black; the kid in the photo is clearly Caucasian. Get out a law book and look up the lawsuits against the Lutzes (due by noon tomorrow, so get to it!). Even the priest recanted what happened to him, killing 1/2 the bk. The details in the bk changed from printing to printing -what else do you need?
lionhearted38 4 years ago
What else do I need? How about the truth! The priest never recanted; the changing details in the book were minor, and didn't involve any of the supernatural events (they were either corrections or changing names due to legal issues); and why must the "ghost boy" in the photo be the same black boy who drowned?
BTW, most of the legal cases the Lutzes were involved with were INSTIGATED BY the Lutzes. Weber's suit was a countersuit - he didn't make his claims until after the Lutzes sued him first.
FriendshipTown 4 years ago
the little ghost boy in the photo?
solution: an actual little boy in the photo
shmouts 4 years ago
Yes, but merely a "possible" solution.
Trouble is, the people there that night say there were no children present (which makes sense - why bring a child to a haunted house in the middle of the night while you're trying to do a serious investigation)...
I also think its not a true ghost in that photo. I think its an accidental shot of one of the investigators.
FriendshipTown 4 years ago
It's a hoax, but a fun Halloween story. Dr. Kaplan destroyed any credibility the PUTZ family had (RIP).
garfield1994 4 years ago
Kaplan's "expose" was 20 years in the making, but ended up being little more than his diary from 1976 to 1979 - and he tried to prove the story a hoax by comparing various newspaper articles and Jay Anson's book for discrepancies.
Kaplan never shows us a smoking gun.
FriendshipTown 4 years ago
My favorite part of Kaplan's book is in the Feb 15, 1976 entry. He is asked by Newsday to give his opinion on the haunting, to which he replies, "I can't give a personal opinion unless I personally investigate."
Then 4 days later, George Lutz postpones Kaplan's investigation because (according to Kaplan) he wants to wait for the media attention to die down.
Kaplan gets angry, phones up Newsday and declares the haunting to be a hoax (and this is before he did ANY investigating).
FriendshipTown 4 years ago
SANTA IS NOT REAL
oh wait I didn't get any "proof" before making that claim, therefore I am ignorant.
shmouts 4 years ago
There is ample proof that Santa is not real.
There is NOT ANY proof that the Amityville haunting was not real.
The logic in your comparison is flawed.
FriendshipTown 4 years ago
It's a hoax? Prove it. Since you are so certain, then prove it to all of us.
Mightymopar1973 4 years ago
No, the thing that scares me is that OTHER people actually believe this baloney. I got over my fear of ghosts when I was about eight years old. Still sleep with the light on, sweetie?
bigbowlowrong 4 years ago
Prove that its baloney. What scares me is that people actually DONT THINK things of this nature can happen. Still sleep with your mother, pumpkin?
Mightymopar1973 4 years ago
Uh no I never slept with my mother. Did you?
bigbowlowrong 4 years ago 2
This is fucking stupid. They gave ONE skeptic about 30 seconds of air time in a 20 minute segment. Way to balance it out!
And it may just be me, but I don't trust a photo by a bunch of hippy 'psychics' with no independent, scientific supervision. It's more likely than not just to be a picture of a normal kid.
bigbowlowrong 4 years ago
There's an episode of "History's Mysteries" that deals with the Amityville Horror. Itairs every now and then on the History Channel, and is more balanced. And there are others which are also unbalanced, favoring the hoax position.
FriendshipTown 4 years ago
your version:
not believing farfetched bullshit= unbalanced
shmouts 4 years ago
Your just scared to believe.
Mightymopar1973 4 years ago
who cares
all I know was I liked th movie
elizabethroy1 4 years ago 2
Also the "Indian" thing to me is BS. How does a demonic pig relate to an indian? I just hate that theory!
DkEugen 4 years ago
The property is supposedly on the mass grave of a native american tribe.
Pigs also tend to represent greed, filth, and greed.
xEternalRosex 4 years ago
The mass grave is actually a few miles away. (Or so I heard)
I was asking more about the relation of the pig to the Indians, as Jodi was a rather important part of the haunting. His other incarnations don't appear to be linked to Indians either.
DkEugen 4 years ago
That's true.
I never really considered the two linked at all.
xEternalRosex 4 years ago
my grandparents are burried in that mass grave a few miles from that house, so its not right next, the defeo grave of the murdered family is 2 head stones away also, kinda freaky
justink15 4 years ago
The whole "they stole from the Exorcist" thing is so false, I watched the Exorcist and read/watched/studied the Amityville Horror, they are nothing alike, plus levatating is commonly reported in hauntings so it really dosen't proove anything.
DkEugen 4 years ago 2
Why is the fact that Ronnie lied a measure of the hoax? If terrible events can cause echoes that we perceive as supernatural, then wouldn't a drunk junkie killing his whole family be enough of a cause? (Not to mention, that would be the quickest explanation for the ghost of a little boy in the hallway, wouldn't it?)
sarathustra 4 years ago
(cont.) The overall impression I've always gotten from this story is that the "psychics" are full of crap, but the Lutz's don't seem to be. They had nothing to gain by lying (except money, which they made no effort to capitalize on), they didn't take advantage of the fame very much, and a whole fiscally-frugal family doesn't just run away and abandon everything they own on a lark or for no reason.
sarathustra 4 years ago
(cont.) Sure, people's imaginations can run away with them, but is that enough to cause parents to rip their kids away from everything they own and start over? I mean, what scares a man of my father's generation so badly that he doesn't even try to go back for anything? And his face...unless he's an Oscar-winning actor by trade, I'd say I've rarely ever seen a man look so, well, haunted. Memories may fade, but I'm betting SOMETHING must have happened.
sarathustra 4 years ago
Wow sara.
Great un-informed rant.
Arthur5041975 4 years ago
S C A R Y
berryslater 4 years ago
There is just know way that Webber could be lieing himself is there?Even though the Lutzs passed lie detector tests
jays2472 4 years ago
The lie detector tests were done by experts hired by a tabloid.
Arthur5041975 4 years ago
The lie detector test was paid for by American International Pictures, not a tabloid or the Lutzes. The results of the test appeared in a tabloid. You can see the results of the test by visiting amityvillehorror dot com.
FriendshipTown 4 years ago
did the lie detector say they were lieing or not lieing?
kayakofan1 2 years ago
the lie detector test prooved that the lutzs were telling the truth....which means they ddnt lie abt nething...
chanugaya 2 years ago
Lie detectors tests are not infallible. They are easy to cheat on, and don't really prove lying, just changes in pulse.
Yawaya12 2 years ago
sociopaths cann pass em no conscience
APRIL62318 2 years ago
Both of them was sociopaths?
BillyBoysing 2 years ago
The killer was on tv, he admitted it was all a hoax. He also said his sister helped in the killing, then he killed her. I live 3 minutes away from that house
nymarine21 4 years ago
The killer (Ronnie DeFeo) was in jail at the time. How would he know if the Lutzes were creating a hoax or telling the truth???
FriendshipTown 4 years ago
OHHH, Frienship town! ha, I just NOW realized the relivance of your name, Wow Im slow.
DkEugen 4 years ago
Ronnie is full of BS. he's had like, 50 different stories post 1974
DkEugen 4 years ago
holy crap i can not beleieve that ronald defeo lied. if his parents abused him he should have just killed them not everybody!
creeepycarrie 4 years ago
wow thats scary dude
inuyashafreak949494 4 years ago
What happened to there kids btw? Why havn't I heard of anyone who interviewed them? What do they have to say?
NearVSMello 4 years ago
Go to the forum I list on my profile page - there's a lot of info there, including what the children have said in the past and why they don't talk today.
FriendshipTown 4 years ago
i was bored and me n my cousins decided to go by the house lol man it was sooo creepy, next time i wanna go inside...if i ever dare to but i really want to lol
SuchAcuriousMind 4 years ago
Real spooky man
Maniak066 4 years ago
And how does Mr. Holzer know what's going on at the house? No,no,no!
Elizabeththegreatest 4 years ago