Certainly John was CCR. The other guys were great but they were his backup band.I didnt hear CCR until '76 ..several years after they broke up.John Fogerty wrote the sound track to my youth , made me listen closely and continues to amaze me.
ccr was a great band....john fogerty alone or with anybody else will never sound like ccr.....center field maybe is a good song...but nothing like the songs that were done by ccr.....and probably he will never be able to write a song like the early ones...the hunger and the anger are gone so the capability to write "magical" songs is gone also.....
@besamemucho5 I have to comment about this one. John Fogerty has proven many times over, he is CCR. No matter what combination of talent he is grouped with, the Creedance sound is clearly unmistakable. If you dont see or hear that you are deaf and dumb, or simply un informed.
You are an absolute idiot! I mean the man is CCR. There is no doubt about that. The backing vocals of the other members were better than his background vocalists now, but to say that the songs don't sound like CCR without the other members is absolutely ridiculous and just plain not true. You say that the song "Centerfield" doesn't sound like CCR. I agree. Listen to "The Old Man Down The Road" and tell me that doesn't sound exactly like a "magical" CCR song. You are so dumb
Let's not kid ourselves. John Fogarty WAS Credence Clearwater Revival. He was the voice. He was the lead guitarist. He was the main songwriter. In my opinion he could have had any other bass player and drummer behind him and it would have still sounded like Fogarty. I think I even read somewhere once that he played all of the instruments on the records and the the other guys were just the live band.
Spooky! I see the same arguments here as I do in another rock legends story... Singer/songwriter, founder, leader, main man of band splits the band up. Lots of legal shit flying around from ex-members of the band, (accused of being a control-freak etc). Singer/songwriter takes at least 10 years respite... Anyone else see the resemblance between these two legends? I am referring of course to the similarities between John Fogerty (Creedence Clearwater Revival), and Axl Rose (Guns n Roses).
@AxlMidas the difference being is that John is the real thing, the songwriter, the muiscian, the voice. whereas axl just can't cut the mustard. you can't compare them John would and has left people like axl in the dust. John was controlling because he was CCR. Axl on the otherhands was not guns n roses.
AS MUCH AS he is loved and his music-he broke the band up,decided to split-he had the giant ego-all he is saying--he did it with his own hands-wouldnt sing with doug and stu at the induction awards-he talks about healing-he's giant ego cant cure the ills of the past -he just doesnt want to acknowledge that ccr was a 4 piece band-and together they were brilliant-get over it john-you hurt the memories of ccr and public by selling short in your attitude-though we love your music-stlll a bit nasty
@simonmoves I think the guy writing all the songs that made them successful should continue that path. If everyone else wants to go a different way they should be allowed, but not as CCR. John was and always will be CCR. his songs his guitar his voice. doug and stu could be replaced and CCR would've still sounded the same. if you replace John, then there is no CCR. who would write the songs? who would sing? John was the sound of thier success. no ego involved.
@denniswilsonfan -the ccr sound and band was 4 guys-thats why they were the number 1 band after the beatles in late 60s-would you call the band his got now ccr ?-no-if paul mc and ringo were playing-would you call them the beatles-no -when he started in the early 60s-he should gone solo ,then the music wouldve taken a different path-the point is let them play together for ccr sake-we the fans deserve this--you only get one life -time is short for all of us,even for the selfish and the wounded.
@denniswilsonfan i couldn't have put it better nor is it more obvious to the ones w/ common sense thank you, if ever 1 band member represented a band and their sound i could not think of a better example than Mr John Fogerty..
Bands that last have a dependence on each other to actually play music. A good example is U2. Bono can't play guitar well enough. Neither the Edge nor Adam Clayton can sing. Another example is R.E.M. Michael Stipe can't play music. Peter Buck can't sing. Mike Mills can sing but not in a distinctive lead vocal sort of way. Groups with one or more guys who can do it all don't last (The Beatles, the Hollies, The Byrds, CCR, Genesis, Styx).
yes John is controling, for good reason. He knew what was good and what was crap or just not good enough. If he wasnt the way he is we would not have the CCR we all love. I feel so bad no one else in CCR would stand behind him through the years of legal bull with Fantasy. Lets face it CCR was screwd from the word go. Fantasy got so rich off them, CCR started Fantasy, thats the truth. When given the chance I would shake Johns hand with pride saying thank you for not giving up.
@mikeinportsri The reason the rest of the band (including his brother) wouldn't stand behind him during the legal bull was because he controlled all of the band's business decisions even though Stu Cook had a business degree, thus he made the bed that they were all sleeping in regarding royalties and publishing rights. I think they all realize that a contract is a contract and since he made the bad business decisions he should deal with their consequences.
Yeah, okay, John, you didn't know that you were the most famous one in the band. lol The problem with John and CCR is similar to problems with other bands where one person does all the writing, singing, and plays lead. Think of Kurt Cobain and Billy Corgan. It becomes a very big control problem. Guys like them are control freaks. Geniuses, but control freaks. Perfectionists. Eventually, it leads to discord within the band. Even with the Beatles, Harrison and Ringo had enough by Let It Be.
@jer1er On the other hand, (and I realize I'm stating the obvious here) I don't think The Beatles would have made it on the songs of George and Ringo. Just sayin'...
@AceOfHeart2012 Obviously their success was built on the songs written by John and Paul, but George was clearly an emerging talent in the band towards their later years. I and many other Beatles' fans love George's songs. Not too many songs in the canon of classic rock can hold up to "While My Guitar Gently Weeps." Then you've got songs like "Something," (Sinatra's favorite) "Taxman," and "Here Comes the Sun." As far as Ringo, I believe he's done quite well for himself since his Beatles days.
john does kick his hero elvis right out of the park.But there is no reason to slag the fab four;and if they where alive they would be kickin ass just like john
If you read the book "Bad Moon Rising" John got the earring when the bank lost his money. John is the best, end of, hes the most talented person alive, bugger the Beatles, if they were releasing songs today they would be crap. John Fogerty has written by far the best songs ever hes a legend!!!
7 year old & Skyhair, lie lie lie. Why do you fucks make up these lies? I know, you 2 are buddies. And the both of you know nothing about what REALLY went on between the members of CCR. And you think it's OK to lie because no one will call you on your lies. Most people are here to listen to the songs, but fucks like you continue to make up stories. Hopefully, someday, you will get your facts straight. Maybe when you finish puberty. Good luck in prison.
3 traitors well Tom had long since left the band- didnt giv a shit about it anymore and was dead before it went to court. you know his brother that john coulnt make amends with before he died- nice fucking guy that john. the only thing he had as a victory was his new deal period. the original record company was ORDERED to pay restitution from the original deal to cook and clifford
It seems that you are blaming John for everything that went bad. I don't know if John was lying, but in an interview, John said he went to see his brother Tom at the hospital. John was still hurting from what Tom supossely told him. And if I recollect right Tom said to John that Saul was his best friend" Now i would be really pissed too if my own brother had told me that too. Maybe there is a lot more that we don't know about. But we can all agreed that it was a shame the band had to break up.
they were awarded 8 million for the crap he pulled with THEIR money and he wont own up to it. and they still forgave him anyway they played with him in 1980 and 83- when he got his new deal concorde records wanted to make good on the old contract and give the boys back royalties which john hated! john stated being a nazi as a manager refusing to do encores and scheduling brutal tous schedules and recording schedules when they said whoa slow down he got pissed
TheygotSkylar. They weren't playing together as CCR in 1980 or 83'. I must be missing something. And as far as choosing sides, John wanted them to stick with him and NOT the record/management co/contract. Stu & Cliff went with the record company/contract. Bottom line, John said that if they backed him in regards to fighting the lawsuit that they ALL would get way more money, including Stu, Cliff & Tom's estate.
Theygotskylar. Look, I am going to bow out of this discussion. I will have agree to disagree. I don't think we are that far off in the big scheme of things. I want to make it known that I know all too well that it takes band MEMBERS to create a song. Yes, we know we can all overdub all instruments like John did on, Centerfield, but no one really likes that, especially me. So I don't want to sit here and knock Stu, Cliff & Tom. Of course they were part of the band and deserve credit. Good talk.
Cook and Clifford always praised his songwritting and his singing, they didnt want anything to change, all the BS was his doing. He was at odds with his brotherand that spilled over onto the others. John caused the break up he made the worst record deal in history and screwed himself and the others out of money. he made Cook and Clifford write and sing they never said they wanted to.
John won the lawsuit. The ear ring symbolizes his victory over 3 traitors and 1 fat leech that try to screw John over for what was rightfully his. You want to bash John because he is so talented. That's like saying Ringo deserves equal amount of money even though Paul & John wrote over 95% of the songs. Wow, what great logic. No wonder no one agree's with your lies.
dont put words in my mouth dumbass how is that like saying Ringo deserves an equal amount of money please explain how - please tell me where it was i said that the guys deserved more money or that they wanted mor money where please cheese ass uh uh uh nowhere !
you invented this in your head! he was at odds with Tom he wanted them to choose sides they did they stayed with him but maintained their friendship with Tom- John signed a bad record deal fact
@TheygotSkylar Actually, Ringo did get an equal share of the money. They split performance royalties four equal ways. The other three got as much as Paul for Yesterday. Paul and John owned equal portions of Northern, but George and Ringo also owned shares of it as well. Apple is divided equally four ways. Until Apple was dissolved, album proceeds were split four ways (performance again, the publishing got stickier!) So, no sympathy for Fogerty, he could have given the others some input.
i quote I QUOTE!!!! Stu Cook (and there is proof of this so dont go getting your tampon all soaked) stu-" why would we want to change anything? (in regards to them wanting to sing) John was the singer song writer why change what works. they didnt want song credits John started to melt down. and the earrings are in regards to his comeback and being released from his original contract
god bless him, he doesn't realize how good he is, eye of the zombie was an excellent record, the title track, change in the weather and headlines are classics and rest of the album is great, john doesn't give himself any credit.
rickb731. Where do you make up this shit? Simply put, John wrote all CCR songs. So of course he has more to lose than the other 3. They have and always will try to ride on his shirt tails. Including fat ass Saul. Who has had more solo hit songs & albums? John. Who has had more success since the break up? John. He asked them to back him up during the lawsuit, they didn't and so they screwed themselves. Now the tour as CCR Revisited,which is SHIT. John's concerts blow away those losers. Go Johnny
they didnt screw themselves he screwed them. where the hell do you get your info from? please spare us the bull. why should they back him? he forced them to write that album, it was the last thing they wanted. he played games with their retirement money and lost it all. back him so he can get more money and them be cut out. face it he was a great writer and singer but they were a great band. and just because he's successful now dont mean he would have been back then without them!
In the early 80's, way back, I used to wonder what happened to John Fogerty and then in 1984, he came out with Centerfield. I thought 'Wow, here he is again!' It was great to see him writing songs and being so successful. And it's nice to see he's still around writing and touring.
Shocking interviewer. Won't let the other person finish a sentence.
padry1509 1 week ago
Certainly John was CCR. The other guys were great but they were his backup band.I didnt hear CCR until '76 ..several years after they broke up.John Fogerty wrote the sound track to my youth , made me listen closely and continues to amaze me.
Mlczdk1 1 month ago
All those years of Larry King leaning over the table like that have made him look like a damn vulture.
NESherv 5 months ago
ccr was a great band....john fogerty alone or with anybody else will never sound like ccr.....center field maybe is a good song...but nothing like the songs that were done by ccr.....and probably he will never be able to write a song like the early ones...the hunger and the anger are gone so the capability to write "magical" songs is gone also.....
besamemucho5 11 months ago
@besamemucho5 I have to comment about this one. John Fogerty has proven many times over, he is CCR. No matter what combination of talent he is grouped with, the Creedance sound is clearly unmistakable. If you dont see or hear that you are deaf and dumb, or simply un informed.
chest002 3 months ago
@besamemucho5
You are an absolute idiot! I mean the man is CCR. There is no doubt about that. The backing vocals of the other members were better than his background vocalists now, but to say that the songs don't sound like CCR without the other members is absolutely ridiculous and just plain not true. You say that the song "Centerfield" doesn't sound like CCR. I agree. Listen to "The Old Man Down The Road" and tell me that doesn't sound exactly like a "magical" CCR song. You are so dumb
UnsilencedMajority 1 month ago
after all these years, i still dont know the REAL reason for all the bad blood between them???
prosteelheader 11 months ago
Let's not kid ourselves. John Fogarty WAS Credence Clearwater Revival. He was the voice. He was the lead guitarist. He was the main songwriter. In my opinion he could have had any other bass player and drummer behind him and it would have still sounded like Fogarty. I think I even read somewhere once that he played all of the instruments on the records and the the other guys were just the live band.
AceOfHeart2012 1 year ago
Spooky! I see the same arguments here as I do in another rock legends story... Singer/songwriter, founder, leader, main man of band splits the band up. Lots of legal shit flying around from ex-members of the band, (accused of being a control-freak etc). Singer/songwriter takes at least 10 years respite... Anyone else see the resemblance between these two legends? I am referring of course to the similarities between John Fogerty (Creedence Clearwater Revival), and Axl Rose (Guns n Roses).
AxlMidas 1 year ago
@AxlMidas the difference being is that John is the real thing, the songwriter, the muiscian, the voice. whereas axl just can't cut the mustard. you can't compare them John would and has left people like axl in the dust. John was controlling because he was CCR. Axl on the otherhands was not guns n roses.
denniswilsonfan 11 months ago
AS MUCH AS he is loved and his music-he broke the band up,decided to split-he had the giant ego-all he is saying--he did it with his own hands-wouldnt sing with doug and stu at the induction awards-he talks about healing-he's giant ego cant cure the ills of the past -he just doesnt want to acknowledge that ccr was a 4 piece band-and together they were brilliant-get over it john-you hurt the memories of ccr and public by selling short in your attitude-though we love your music-stlll a bit nasty
simonmoves 1 year ago
@simonmoves I think the guy writing all the songs that made them successful should continue that path. If everyone else wants to go a different way they should be allowed, but not as CCR. John was and always will be CCR. his songs his guitar his voice. doug and stu could be replaced and CCR would've still sounded the same. if you replace John, then there is no CCR. who would write the songs? who would sing? John was the sound of thier success. no ego involved.
denniswilsonfan 11 months ago
@denniswilsonfan -the ccr sound and band was 4 guys-thats why they were the number 1 band after the beatles in late 60s-would you call the band his got now ccr ?-no-if paul mc and ringo were playing-would you call them the beatles-no -when he started in the early 60s-he should gone solo ,then the music wouldve taken a different path-the point is let them play together for ccr sake-we the fans deserve this--you only get one life -time is short for all of us,even for the selfish and the wounded.
simonmoves 11 months ago
@denniswilsonfan i couldn't have put it better nor is it more obvious to the ones w/ common sense thank you, if ever 1 band member represented a band and their sound i could not think of a better example than Mr John Fogerty..
MOSKII58 4 weeks ago
Bands that last have a dependence on each other to actually play music. A good example is U2. Bono can't play guitar well enough. Neither the Edge nor Adam Clayton can sing. Another example is R.E.M. Michael Stipe can't play music. Peter Buck can't sing. Mike Mills can sing but not in a distinctive lead vocal sort of way. Groups with one or more guys who can do it all don't last (The Beatles, the Hollies, The Byrds, CCR, Genesis, Styx).
Doleafol 2 years ago
@Doleafol
The Beatles had three guys who could do it all.
powerhouse345 1 year ago
@Doleafol Woah that makes so much sense !
Annonymus121 1 year ago
yes John is controling, for good reason. He knew what was good and what was crap or just not good enough. If he wasnt the way he is we would not have the CCR we all love. I feel so bad no one else in CCR would stand behind him through the years of legal bull with Fantasy. Lets face it CCR was screwd from the word go. Fantasy got so rich off them, CCR started Fantasy, thats the truth. When given the chance I would shake Johns hand with pride saying thank you for not giving up.
mikeinportsri 2 years ago 9
@mikeinportsri The reason the rest of the band (including his brother) wouldn't stand behind him during the legal bull was because he controlled all of the band's business decisions even though Stu Cook had a business degree, thus he made the bed that they were all sleeping in regarding royalties and publishing rights. I think they all realize that a contract is a contract and since he made the bad business decisions he should deal with their consequences.
publicanimal 1 year ago
john is a rock icon, saw him last year and he still rocks.
chucknchar 2 years ago
Yeah, okay, John, you didn't know that you were the most famous one in the band. lol The problem with John and CCR is similar to problems with other bands where one person does all the writing, singing, and plays lead. Think of Kurt Cobain and Billy Corgan. It becomes a very big control problem. Guys like them are control freaks. Geniuses, but control freaks. Perfectionists. Eventually, it leads to discord within the band. Even with the Beatles, Harrison and Ringo had enough by Let It Be.
jer1er 2 years ago
@jer1er On the other hand, (and I realize I'm stating the obvious here) I don't think The Beatles would have made it on the songs of George and Ringo. Just sayin'...
AceOfHeart2012 1 year ago
@AceOfHeart2012 Obviously their success was built on the songs written by John and Paul, but George was clearly an emerging talent in the band towards their later years. I and many other Beatles' fans love George's songs. Not too many songs in the canon of classic rock can hold up to "While My Guitar Gently Weeps." Then you've got songs like "Something," (Sinatra's favorite) "Taxman," and "Here Comes the Sun." As far as Ringo, I believe he's done quite well for himself since his Beatles days.
jer1er 1 year ago
@jer1er I do agree. I was referring more to the very early days when they were just starting out.
AceOfHeart2012 1 year ago
@AceOfHeart2012 jaaaaaaaaaaaaa that was a good one....and i have to agree with that comment
besamemucho5 3 months ago
john does kick his hero elvis right out of the park.But there is no reason to slag the fab four;and if they where alive they would be kickin ass just like john
polksalad1234 2 years ago
If you read the book "Bad Moon Rising" John got the earring when the bank lost his money. John is the best, end of, hes the most talented person alive, bugger the Beatles, if they were releasing songs today they would be crap. John Fogerty has written by far the best songs ever hes a legend!!!
gertiegertiehamot 2 years ago
7 year old & Skyhair, lie lie lie. Why do you fucks make up these lies? I know, you 2 are buddies. And the both of you know nothing about what REALLY went on between the members of CCR. And you think it's OK to lie because no one will call you on your lies. Most people are here to listen to the songs, but fucks like you continue to make up stories. Hopefully, someday, you will get your facts straight. Maybe when you finish puberty. Good luck in prison.
maximum1954 2 years ago
3 traitors well Tom had long since left the band- didnt giv a shit about it anymore and was dead before it went to court. you know his brother that john coulnt make amends with before he died- nice fucking guy that john. the only thing he had as a victory was his new deal period. the original record company was ORDERED to pay restitution from the original deal to cook and clifford
TheygotSkylar 2 years ago
It seems that you are blaming John for everything that went bad. I don't know if John was lying, but in an interview, John said he went to see his brother Tom at the hospital. John was still hurting from what Tom supossely told him. And if I recollect right Tom said to John that Saul was his best friend" Now i would be really pissed too if my own brother had told me that too. Maybe there is a lot more that we don't know about. But we can all agreed that it was a shame the band had to break up.
gulfmar 2 years ago
they were awarded 8 million for the crap he pulled with THEIR money and he wont own up to it. and they still forgave him anyway they played with him in 1980 and 83- when he got his new deal concorde records wanted to make good on the old contract and give the boys back royalties which john hated! john stated being a nazi as a manager refusing to do encores and scheduling brutal tous schedules and recording schedules when they said whoa slow down he got pissed
TheygotSkylar 2 years ago
TheygotSkylar. They weren't playing together as CCR in 1980 or 83'. I must be missing something. And as far as choosing sides, John wanted them to stick with him and NOT the record/management co/contract. Stu & Cliff went with the record company/contract. Bottom line, John said that if they backed him in regards to fighting the lawsuit that they ALL would get way more money, including Stu, Cliff & Tom's estate.
maximum1954 2 years ago
Theygotskylar. Look, I am going to bow out of this discussion. I will have agree to disagree. I don't think we are that far off in the big scheme of things. I want to make it known that I know all too well that it takes band MEMBERS to create a song. Yes, we know we can all overdub all instruments like John did on, Centerfield, but no one really likes that, especially me. So I don't want to sit here and knock Stu, Cliff & Tom. Of course they were part of the band and deserve credit. Good talk.
maximum1954 2 years ago
Cook and Clifford always praised his songwritting and his singing, they didnt want anything to change, all the BS was his doing. He was at odds with his brotherand that spilled over onto the others. John caused the break up he made the worst record deal in history and screwed himself and the others out of money. he made Cook and Clifford write and sing they never said they wanted to.
TheygotSkylar 2 years ago
John won the lawsuit. The ear ring symbolizes his victory over 3 traitors and 1 fat leech that try to screw John over for what was rightfully his. You want to bash John because he is so talented. That's like saying Ringo deserves equal amount of money even though Paul & John wrote over 95% of the songs. Wow, what great logic. No wonder no one agree's with your lies.
maximum1954 2 years ago
dont put words in my mouth dumbass how is that like saying Ringo deserves an equal amount of money please explain how - please tell me where it was i said that the guys deserved more money or that they wanted mor money where please cheese ass uh uh uh nowhere !
you invented this in your head! he was at odds with Tom he wanted them to choose sides they did they stayed with him but maintained their friendship with Tom- John signed a bad record deal fact
TheygotSkylar 2 years ago
@TheygotSkylar Actually, Ringo did get an equal share of the money. They split performance royalties four equal ways. The other three got as much as Paul for Yesterday. Paul and John owned equal portions of Northern, but George and Ringo also owned shares of it as well. Apple is divided equally four ways. Until Apple was dissolved, album proceeds were split four ways (performance again, the publishing got stickier!) So, no sympathy for Fogerty, he could have given the others some input.
AppleCorp3 1 year ago
i quote I QUOTE!!!! Stu Cook (and there is proof of this so dont go getting your tampon all soaked) stu-" why would we want to change anything? (in regards to them wanting to sing) John was the singer song writer why change what works. they didnt want song credits John started to melt down. and the earrings are in regards to his comeback and being released from his original contract
TheygotSkylar 2 years ago
god bless him, he doesn't realize how good he is, eye of the zombie was an excellent record, the title track, change in the weather and headlines are classics and rest of the album is great, john doesn't give himself any credit.
BHBrother87 3 years ago
those suckers
loveRnR 3 years ago
Cliff stu and saul conspired to screqw john over
Obelisk2290 3 years ago
no saul and john screwed them
he took their money and without permission invested it in a tax shelter scam and lost it all. and never paid them the royalties they were due
rickb731 2 years ago
learn your history
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
rickb731. Where do you make up this shit? Simply put, John wrote all CCR songs. So of course he has more to lose than the other 3. They have and always will try to ride on his shirt tails. Including fat ass Saul. Who has had more solo hit songs & albums? John. Who has had more success since the break up? John. He asked them to back him up during the lawsuit, they didn't and so they screwed themselves. Now the tour as CCR Revisited,which is SHIT. John's concerts blow away those losers. Go Johnny
maximum1954 2 years ago
Yeah ok I'm making this up! Those court documents only exist to purpetuate my bs.
ok uh huh well those for your response. have a nice day. Never said he didnt write the songs
rickb731 2 years ago
they didnt screw themselves he screwed them. where the hell do you get your info from? please spare us the bull. why should they back him? he forced them to write that album, it was the last thing they wanted. he played games with their retirement money and lost it all. back him so he can get more money and them be cut out. face it he was a great writer and singer but they were a great band. and just because he's successful now dont mean he would have been back then without them!
the7train 2 years ago
thats right and it was proven in court and jf and the record company had to pay up
the7train 2 years ago
In the early 80's, way back, I used to wonder what happened to John Fogerty and then in 1984, he came out with Centerfield. I thought 'Wow, here he is again!' It was great to see him writing songs and being so successful. And it's nice to see he's still around writing and touring.
Lambtonboy 3 years ago 11