Its seems like many doesn't understand how big icebergs can be actually. It doesn't matter if you hit ice with steel.. If you have very bad luck, there will be a rupture and water will flow in. Also, the top of the iceberg is nothing compared to the far greater portion of the iceberg beneath the water surface. That kind of steel which Titanic was made of was acutally very poor quality, it beocome brittle in icy waters.
First off, they never had time to get the engines reversed in the timespan of events-37 seconds between the sighting and the collision. NO ONE WAS STANDING BY THE CONTROLS- THEY WERE IN MID OCEAN. This was a slam-on-the brakes emergency maneuver.According to one account, the only signal sent-either just before or just as the collision occured-was STOP lighting up at the boilers. Also, if she'd been sliced open in five comparments as in the film, she would have sunk in less than an hour.
Dude it's a movie with leonardo dicaprio not some fancy documentary on discovery channel. the movie would've been pretty boring if it would've been like "hey an iceberg" - BAM - All dead - End
@GonzoeKb24 Okay look I can't stand your comments one you are caps locking everything thing so we all he receive you as screaming at us two you sound like some crazy ass religious person trying to force the bible down our throats and three don't start yelling at me if I find you swimming around my comments in my index with this religious preaching crap its off to the delete button
@GonzoeKb24 Okay look I can't stand your comments one you are caps locking everything thing so we all he receive you as screaming at us two you sound like some crazy ass religious person trying to force the bible down our throats and three don't start yelling at me if I find you swimming around my comments in my index with this religious preaching crap its off to the delete button
@Kiyoko504 Ive been thinking that for years. Most likely seriously mess up the first 100 ft of the ship with at least 2 compartments breached with flooding water. Everyone on the ship will more than likely fall over many being injured with possible fatalities, but the ship would stay afloat. This is just my opinion thinking with physics.
@Kiyoko504 Murdoch would have gone to prison for the rest of his days unfortunately. Its human nature to try to avoid danger which is exactly what he did April 14th 1912. He could not have known that the ship would sink and kill 1500 by attempting to avoid the iceberg. If he had intentionally steered the ship everybody would say why didn't you try to avoid it because on the balance of probabilities you would have missed the ice altogether. But I get where you are coming from :-)
I love this movie but it's too heartbreaking. I remembered I watched it when I was 15yo and it drove me into depression for 1 week. So...I'm struggling whether I should watch it again.
By the way, I wrote a piece of music for the return of Titanic in 2012. Please check it out ;)
@Dennemannen Little iceberg? You know that icebergs have far greater mass than ships normally have (except oil tankers maybe). Icebergs are much bigger beneath the surface, and its acutally not strange at all that Titanic sank after the collision. Also, in such a cold waters like in North Atlantic, steel becomes very brittle and that kind of steel which Titanic was made of become very brittle in the icy waters, so a full hit with an iceberg ruptured many metres of Titanic's hull.
I have a couple questions. I do know a bit about the Titanic as well. When Murdoch shut the water-tight doors did that mean ALL of the Titanics lower decks seal? Meaning the crew in the engine room that hadn't been affected yet were trapped as well? Obviously in the movie, and the actual ship, it shows one knob for all the doors... Secondly, knowing full well the ship was going to sink, why didn't they pull her up to an iceburg and have people cling on that instead of being submerge in icewater?
@CFLsurfr I also find rather peculiar they didnt spot the iceberg sooner. Could it have been as large as portrayed in the movie, or was it somewhat flat and smaller and therefore harder to see before it was too late? If so, then the iceberg would have been extremely hard to find again when the full damage to the ship was revealed and well, I'm no expert but maybe it's prettay prettay hard to try to hit an iceberg so that the ship clings to it and doesnt sink. Just a guess. :)
@Lattamonsteri The iceberg wasn't spotted for a number of reasons. Due to a mix up in Southampton the lookouts had no binoculars. The sea was flat and calm when they hit the iceberg; to see one in the pitch dark its essential to have waves breaking at the base. Also the berg they struck was likely what's known as a blueberg; an iceberg that has capsized so you see the dark/clear ice on the surface and not the ordinary white frost you would expect.
I was involved in writing the script for the 1997 movie Titanic which James Cameron takes credit for writing. I know the background story and why Kate was asked to dye her hair red and the origin of the name of Rose who was not the name of a passenger onboard the original Titanic in 1912.
I dont know why people are comparing the Costa Concordia to the Titanic disaster. The Titanic crashed in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, with no communication to anyone, freezing ice waters, not enough lifeboats, and with a lot more tougher conditions...
The Costa Concordia was just inches close to land, lots of communication with new technology, lots of lifeboats, it could of been a lot worse, no way in hell can this be comparable to the Titanic crash!!
@GonzoeKb24 I completely agree, the Titanic disaster was one of, if not the worst, maritime disasters ever. The Britannic didnt have a particilarly nice fate either.
@GonzoeKb24 Replace the iceberg with a sand bar, and yes it is very much like the titanic. Most of the lifeboats were useless cause the boat was on its side and the water was cold because it's winter.
Titanic had the Marconi room which was communicating with other ships, but nobody who answered was within four hours of them. There were ships within 20 miles of them who didn't answer or had everything turned off for the night. Otherwise, you're right though.
You'd think in this day and age, with all the rediculous safety regulations that have been implemented, that there would be an international standard for cruise ships that venture through ice berg alley, must be double hulled. Considering the amount of people onboard, this should be standard
If stupid ismay would have let smith keep the ship at it's original speed the ship would not be at the bottom of ocean and if they would have sealed the water tight bulkheads/compartments on top the ship would have never sunk but I blame dismay for alot of things that happend in the disaster
Everyone would have had a MUCH better chance of surviving if those two lookout guys at the front of the ship weren't distracted by Rose and Jack making out and were watching the sea instead, that way they could have given the crew more of a "heads up" to the iceberg coming, and they would have passed it easily
She would probably had a helluva better chance had she turned hard starboard, and ordered full speed ahead, rather than going reverse which gave the berg a good atvantage of peeling up open like a sardine can..
They should have it the burg head on because it would have only damaged up to three compartments and it would loose som cargo and stuff but the ship would have survived they also should have covered the bulkheads with hatches that seal so the stokers could get out if you would have sealed the top of the bulkhead so water could not spill over
@Tyws1999 i doubt they would have thought of all that in a minute .... and besides, when a ship's about to crash it's kind of like a car crash ... if a car is heading for your face, obviously you want to veer to the side to avoid it. it just so happens that the ship couldn't turn fast enough and that's why it crashed into the side of the iceberg and ripped it open
Ese fue el estúpido error que hundió el barco, poner reversa los motores, solo era girar el timón! y lo mas evidente creer que ni Dios podía hundirlo.
I wonder if it was possible for them to keep the right propeller in forward position and the left in reverse wouldn't that have made her turn faster? or vice versa. Then go hard to port. I mean seriously she's 46329 tons heavy. Your not going to stop her in time.
Imagine iof they did hit it head on, but it just breaks through and the port and starboard sides are still crunched open by the ice on the side, and it sinks none the less. There was no true win win but to just see the burg LONG before they actually saw it.
I've always thought it was interesting that in the movie the wrong screw is in reverse. It appears the stbd screw is in reverse to help turn the ship to port, but in reality applying reverse to the stbd screw will swing the ship to stbd (assuming the port screw is still in forward). If you want to spin a vessel without making any appreciable headway (in tight harbors), all you have to do is put one screw in forward and the other in reverse to spin either clockwise or counterclockwise.
People bleeting about hitting the iceberg head-on are missing the point. They belong to the cuda, wuda, shuda brigade. It ain't helpful. Murdoch had a maximum of 30 seconds to make a correct call when most competent seamen would have needed a few minutes (at least) to make). Perhaps that is being to harsh. A century on and we have not made up our minds, and are still debating it.
@CunningStunt777777 "wuda, cuda, shuda" as you so eloquently put it, is one of the most important things in maritime safety, my friend. Its called learning from mistakes and advancing theories in ship maneuvering. Its good that we are still debating it, as we should debate how all disasters are handled. It helps future mariners deal with similar situations. However, I think that hitting head on would not have been a preferable alternative.
@gunterdak That is not the context in which I offered my original post. I am talking about what the crew did and didn't do at the time, and whether it is legitimate to blame Murdoch for it, not the historical learning curve. Please don't take things out of context. Regards.
Hitting the berg headon is what ive said all along. Think of the ship as an egg, put pressure on the side of it (in this case, the ice scraping) and the ice will win. But take that same egg and try squeezing it on its ends, and it wont break or at least not as easily. On another note, i sure wish i had that car that was in there, an original 1912 (ford?) like that brand new with all original parts, mint condition and unrestored....would be insanely valuable today.
The Titanic should of hit the ice berg straight on. Only the from of the bow would of been damaged instead of tiny holes along the side of the haul. At most 2 bulkheads would of been flooded verses the 5 when she hit the side and produced the holes.
That would of made it Even Worse if they Hit it Straight on. It would of damaged the Ship Front Badly and could of sank like in 1 Hour 10 Mintures. You do Releise how Hard an Iceberg is right? Did you see how Fast the Water came in even when it Hit Underwater Ice and that Made the Ship Sink.
@Luxayan It may cause more damage...but the water wont have access to the like 4th or 5th bulk heads, since the openings would be concentrated in on area in the very tip of the bow vs along side of the haul.
@tommy437 Not very likely. Their best bet was to hit head-on, and at most it could have crushed the strongest part of the hull and would have breached the first main bulkhead, perhaps the second, and they could have survived it, maybe even continue their trip(albeit slowly).
Officer order HARD TO STBD...the AB put the wheel hard to port...Anyway port or stbd it would be better to let the ship strike direct with the bow at the iceberg...less damage...few copartments were going to flood!
@CFLsurfr I also think that if he would of rammed titanic right into the iceberg - the titanic wouldn't of sank!! Everyone would just shake a bit :) but he gambled and thought that he can escape the sinking even w/o breaking the ship!!! Dumb!!! :(
i have a question: how water passed if they closed all the doors ?
my grandfather has a friend who was in a Greek warship in ww2 they hit a mine, lost all the front of the ship (nearly to the bridge), but still they make it to Alexandria
@elasolezito The Titanic was not a warship, it was a luxury cruise liner. However yes it did have water-tight bulkheads, BUT they were not installed in every lower compartment of the ship, a huge mistake. Thomas Andrews knew of the issue and had plans to install water-tight bulkheads in all lower compartments, but pressure from Bruce Ismay and White Star Line forced him to cut some corners, another example being the amount of lifeboats per passenger issue.
@elasolezito So, with that said, the first four underwater compartments had water-tight bulkheads, that covered the bow of the ship plus some, but the cracks went to 5 compartments in length, and basically water just started spilling over the floors systematically. I personally think Capt Smith should have rammed her right into the iceburg, it would have destroyed the bow, but it could have been sealed. And shouldnt have been moving so damn fast, he knew better.
@elasolezito And you will even notice all the lights light up when he pulls the lever to shut the doors,(notice the compartments on top of the panel) like i said they had plans to finish all compartments, but it was never done. Thomas Andrews knew of this, and told Capt. Smith when he questioned him about it that he knew the ship was going to sink from the very beginning.
@CFLsurfr they give them many warnings and in the end titanic's captain and the others swear at them, maybe it was a reason why they "didnt see" them sinking...
they not turning cause they r going to fast 21 knots they going!! they tried to slow down but it was to late. they managed to turn a little bit. but they hit hard. if they did not turn at all she would have been damaged more. i know this because i have a relitive who was a first class. and she survived. she passed down the story for a long time.
@firedemon02 Actually, if they would have hit straight to the iceberg ship would have stay on the surface instead of sinking to the bottom. It was the long hit to the side which took the ship down. But cant blame them, I think everyone would have tried to avoid it instead of hitting it straight.
If time travel was invented, the first thing I would do is go back in time, get on the titanic and run up the that guy yelling "THERES AN ICEBERG COMING IN EXACTLY 10 MINUTES!! TURN TURN TURN!!" Think that would give them enough time?
@HighlandBilby It probably wouldn't help. Titanic was the reason ships now stock up properly on lifeboats. And, knowing humanity, they probably wouldn't even believe you.
@badturkali icebergs live together but sometimes things don't go well because they realize that they are no more in love.So they take divorce and leaving each other.
1:18 Imagine having a triple expansion engine the size of one of the Titanic's engines on your car... the torque once you got up to 150 psi would tear the entire car apart.
@MNsportguru88 I recently learned that steel of that time contained greater amounts of impurities this is in reference to sulfur deposits so that when steel hardened it was not able to provide what a metal without traces of sulfur could provide.
@jazz265 No of course not the iceberg would have melted years ago in fact it would have melted a few months after it hit titanic but there are prob still lots floating around that area and the ship was never unsinkable the press dubbed it as such never the white star line but they had such arrogance that they thought that it was superior in its making.
@OVERKILLxxPro well it was supposed to be an unsinkable ship and they pushed the ship to beyond it's limits (and didn't know that the ship it's self was flawed from the beginning) so i guess it's more Irony then Karma actually
@SourceNeon An engine telegraph. It changes the corresponding telegraph in the engine room (0:42), and that tells the people operating the engine to run it in which direction and at what speed. In this case, full astern, which means full reverse.
@xitzandrewx some were chain driven, they had the disadvantage of having to be adjusted regularly. There were electric engine telegraphs which required electric power from the ship's generators to run but they never needed adjusting.
But your forgetting one thing in the design that works as a plus or minus due to the fact that murdock reversed the 2 outer propellors and has they middle one stopped basically disabled the ships turning ability due to the fact of the middle propellor being infront of the rudder if they would have turned hard a port well maintaining there speed my calculations prove they would have missed the burg by meters this after missing it would have had time to slow down in case of another burg
Murdoch most likely shopped the engines to remove the risk of the starboard propellor coming into contact with the iceberg while still rotating - remember that he had been on the Olympic when she lost a propellor blade and knew how badly this would shake the engines up.
So with the starboard propellor shut down, the port engine would be pushing AGAINST the turn, so he stopped it too, which also stopped the central prop, as it ran on exhaust steam from the main engines.
Not a blooper - in the days of sail, when ships were steered with a tiller, commands were reversed - an order to 'port the helm' (i.e. 'push the tiller to the left') would actually cause the ship to turn to starboard. The British Merchant Marine, in the spirit of tradition, continued using this outdated system until well after the Titanic sank.
Actually, if they had hit the iceburg head on, the ship actually wouldnt have sunk. The strongest and thickest part of the ship was the bow, and they would have mearly hit and caused a panic but no damage would have been done. Im not saying they were stupid, i would have probably turned too if i was on the ship, just making a point.
@stawaz they were going very fast, i think the ship would turn after that to the left or right if they hit it head on, because icebergs are much bigger underwater, who knows what is front of the iceberg
still they should have travel slower and listen to the warnings
@stawaz Agreed, but the first hundred feet of the bow would have crumpled up like a sardine can and all the firemen quartered in that part of the ship would have died horribly - without history to show that the alternative would have been much worse, Murdoch would have been lynched at the enquiry, with everyone demanding of him why he didn't simply steer around the berg.
My grandmother was on titanic when she was little girl she lost her dad aka my great grand farther she said she saw the whole ship as it lifted to it split she so scared of what could of happened but know she home with me and my family she iwas 5 at the time unfortunately she died in 2009 may 18th loves her forever you strong hearted women -3
my dads granma died the night i miss her when i was a kid my granma played with me and i cry about it infact im crying now me to i was on titanic but i went on a life boat im 123 years old now so thats my story my wife died to.
Its seems like many doesn't understand how big icebergs can be actually. It doesn't matter if you hit ice with steel.. If you have very bad luck, there will be a rupture and water will flow in. Also, the top of the iceberg is nothing compared to the far greater portion of the iceberg beneath the water surface. That kind of steel which Titanic was made of was acutally very poor quality, it beocome brittle in icy waters.
pROTPANDA 14 hours ago
sin duda es un video que atrapa de principio a fin....buen trabajo clctitanic
pelotrasg 1 day ago
corrr blimey Mary Poppins!!
drplbiftin 1 day ago
First off, they never had time to get the engines reversed in the timespan of events-37 seconds between the sighting and the collision. NO ONE WAS STANDING BY THE CONTROLS- THEY WERE IN MID OCEAN. This was a slam-on-the brakes emergency maneuver.According to one account, the only signal sent-either just before or just as the collision occured-was STOP lighting up at the boilers. Also, if she'd been sliced open in five comparments as in the film, she would have sunk in less than an hour.
bruce8420 1 day ago
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Dude it's a movie with leonardo dicaprio not some fancy documentary on discovery channel. the movie would've been pretty boring if it would've been like "hey an iceberg" - BAM - All dead - End
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@GonzoeKb24 Okay look I can't stand your comments one you are caps locking everything thing so we all he receive you as screaming at us two you sound like some crazy ass religious person trying to force the bible down our throats and three don't start yelling at me if I find you swimming around my comments in my index with this religious preaching crap its off to the delete button
Kiyoko504 2 days ago
@GonzoeKb24 Okay look I can't stand your comments one you are caps locking everything thing so we all he receive you as screaming at us two you sound like some crazy ass religious person trying to force the bible down our throats and three don't start yelling at me if I find you swimming around my comments in my index with this religious preaching crap its off to the delete button
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savetheminnows39 3 days ago
Ewan Stewart's performance as 1st Officer William Murdoch was a small part, but in a way almost scene stealing eveytime he was on screen.
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Ever wonder how idffrent it would of been if they hit it stright on
Kiyoko504 5 days ago
@Kiyoko504 Ive been thinking that for years. Most likely seriously mess up the first 100 ft of the ship with at least 2 compartments breached with flooding water. Everyone on the ship will more than likely fall over many being injured with possible fatalities, but the ship would stay afloat. This is just my opinion thinking with physics.
iViolation 4 days ago
@Kiyoko504 Murdoch would have gone to prison for the rest of his days unfortunately. Its human nature to try to avoid danger which is exactly what he did April 14th 1912. He could not have known that the ship would sink and kill 1500 by attempting to avoid the iceberg. If he had intentionally steered the ship everybody would say why didn't you try to avoid it because on the balance of probabilities you would have missed the ice altogether. But I get where you are coming from :-)
fingustis 2 days ago
If they could have reversed the port (left) screw and kept the starboard (right) screw at 1/2, I bet that ship would have made it around the ice.
pettyofficer30 5 days ago
how can a silly iceberg like that sink the Titanic which is made of metal.
MrBeanLovesSex 5 days ago
@MrBeanLovesSex Because the Titanic's hull was made of iron(a weak metal) & the ship had been moving way too fast through that ice field.
Lizfan2 5 days ago
4:00 i thought he would get crushed alive. i've never seen the movie before.
EricFaith1 6 days ago
@EricFaith1 In reality, he would've. The watertight doors dropped with gravity when they were a few inches to the floor.
JBBergen3 6 days ago
hard to starboard.... and turning the wheel left ^^ MISTAKE
hard to port.... and turning the wheel right - MISTAKE!
gnah how i hate these two :(
in 4:55 you can notice a truck or something in the background - well... only in a version that actually shows the whole width of the screen ;)
not only the inner 20 cm.
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I love this movie but it's too heartbreaking. I remembered I watched it when I was 15yo and it drove me into depression for 1 week. So...I'm struggling whether I should watch it again.
By the way, I wrote a piece of music for the return of Titanic in 2012. Please check it out ;)
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saturnianmusic 1 week ago
Gotta feel for those guys in the boiler rooms
TheMattjef 1 week ago
Hello boys Im Backkkk said the iceberg after hundreds of warnings
brigeboy95 1 week ago
Schettino, VADA A BORDO.
qondawacho 1 week ago
So little iceberg can destroy that ship..
Dennemannen 1 week ago
@Dennemannen Little iceberg? You know that icebergs have far greater mass than ships normally have (except oil tankers maybe). Icebergs are much bigger beneath the surface, and its acutally not strange at all that Titanic sank after the collision. Also, in such a cold waters like in North Atlantic, steel becomes very brittle and that kind of steel which Titanic was made of become very brittle in the icy waters, so a full hit with an iceberg ruptured many metres of Titanic's hull.
pROTPANDA 14 hours ago
I have a couple questions. I do know a bit about the Titanic as well. When Murdoch shut the water-tight doors did that mean ALL of the Titanics lower decks seal? Meaning the crew in the engine room that hadn't been affected yet were trapped as well? Obviously in the movie, and the actual ship, it shows one knob for all the doors... Secondly, knowing full well the ship was going to sink, why didn't they pull her up to an iceburg and have people cling on that instead of being submerge in icewater?
CFLsurfr 1 week ago
@CFLsurfr They would've froze to death in minutes near the iceberg. The temperature of it was probably no higher than 10 degrees.
playoffexpert1 1 week ago
@CFLsurfr I also find rather peculiar they didnt spot the iceberg sooner. Could it have been as large as portrayed in the movie, or was it somewhat flat and smaller and therefore harder to see before it was too late? If so, then the iceberg would have been extremely hard to find again when the full damage to the ship was revealed and well, I'm no expert but maybe it's prettay prettay hard to try to hit an iceberg so that the ship clings to it and doesnt sink. Just a guess. :)
Lattamonsteri 1 week ago
@Lattamonsteri The iceberg wasn't spotted for a number of reasons. Due to a mix up in Southampton the lookouts had no binoculars. The sea was flat and calm when they hit the iceberg; to see one in the pitch dark its essential to have waves breaking at the base. Also the berg they struck was likely what's known as a blueberg; an iceberg that has capsized so you see the dark/clear ice on the surface and not the ordinary white frost you would expect.
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I was involved in writing the script for the 1997 movie Titanic which James Cameron takes credit for writing. I know the background story and why Kate was asked to dye her hair red and the origin of the name of Rose who was not the name of a passenger onboard the original Titanic in 1912.
Boddahism 1 week ago
when he says hard to starboard, he turns the wheel anticlockwise, wouldn't that go left/port? , starboard is right?
Darcshadow5 1 week ago
Doesn't matter if they stop it was to late anyway
xFegzx 1 week ago
They had the shipping lanes too far north back then.
andrewmente 2 weeks ago
they could have just stopped that ship... then they change direction by doing 90 degree turn while idle... good idea...
GordonFreemanD40 2 weeks ago
did you record this with a trumpet?
tia40wolpol 2 weeks ago
The captain probably wanted to salute the penguins on the iceberg...
inesis 2 weeks ago
R.I.P. TITANIC AND ALL THE PEOPLE ON BOARD
autodelta1988 2 weeks ago
I dont know why people are comparing the Costa Concordia to the Titanic disaster. The Titanic crashed in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, with no communication to anyone, freezing ice waters, not enough lifeboats, and with a lot more tougher conditions...
The Costa Concordia was just inches close to land, lots of communication with new technology, lots of lifeboats, it could of been a lot worse, no way in hell can this be comparable to the Titanic crash!!
GonzoeKb24 2 weeks ago 54
@GonzoeKb24 I completely agree, the Titanic disaster was one of, if not the worst, maritime disasters ever. The Britannic didnt have a particilarly nice fate either.
lukedf452gr 1 week ago
@GonzoeKb24 ik, but some people say its the curse of the titanic
everzonermitanio 1 week ago
@GonzoeKb24
I say. MS Estonia and Titanic were much comparable don't you think?
Killjoy45 1 week ago
@GonzoeKb24 Replace the iceberg with a sand bar, and yes it is very much like the titanic. Most of the lifeboats were useless cause the boat was on its side and the water was cold because it's winter.
Happa90 1 week ago
@GonzoeKb24
Titanic had the Marconi room which was communicating with other ships, but nobody who answered was within four hours of them. There were ships within 20 miles of them who didn't answer or had everything turned off for the night. Otherwise, you're right though.
IrishChris1979 1 week ago
@GonzoeKb24
you are right.....but smith was the way better cap....screw Schettino
Arvestotia 5 days ago
@GonzoeKb24 i think the same, you know that media loves to compare disasters and make publicity of victim disgraces
XOPAUXO 3 days ago
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savetheminnows39 3 days ago
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savetheminnows39 3 days ago
i have to do my speech on the titanic
arash1530 2 weeks ago
Italian ships are awesome :)
scagish 2 weeks ago
the same thing happened to the costa concordia
pissoutmyasssful 2 weeks ago
I think it would have been better to just hit the iceberg head on instead of being stabbed by it on the side u know just sayin
ps32productions 2 weeks ago
Wait, the helmsmen (the dude steering) turns the wheel the wrong way. Starboard=Right, Port=Left
UZC527 2 weeks ago
@UZC527 "Hard-a-starboard" is the traditional tiller order for an abrupt turn to port (left).
largesatsuma 2 weeks ago
@largesatsuma in spanish is: estribor= right and babor= left
XAVI68S 2 weeks ago
You'd think in this day and age, with all the rediculous safety regulations that have been implemented, that there would be an international standard for cruise ships that venture through ice berg alley, must be double hulled. Considering the amount of people onboard, this should be standard
mattmatt115 2 weeks ago
every time i watch that scene,although I know what's the end's going to be,I always feel that agony,hoping they will avoid the iceberg :)
keeponrocking87 2 weeks ago
@keeponrocking87 ik!!! I was watching it and sincerelly hoping they would miss but then i was like "oh yea....."
kuppo1560 2 weeks ago 6
ya see how the guy was like FASTER FASTER they should've gone SLOWER SLOWER so they could've turned away from the stinking iceberg
NightmareTheToon 2 weeks ago
If stupid ismay would have let smith keep the ship at it's original speed the ship would not be at the bottom of ocean and if they would have sealed the water tight bulkheads/compartments on top the ship would have never sunk but I blame dismay for alot of things that happend in the disaster
Tyws1999 2 weeks ago
(Iceberg collision)
Officer-"He's going, your good, your good, your good, and stop"!
Murdoch-"Don't worry Captin will buff out those scratches"!
Panther592 2 weeks ago
Everyone would have had a MUCH better chance of surviving if those two lookout guys at the front of the ship weren't distracted by Rose and Jack making out and were watching the sea instead, that way they could have given the crew more of a "heads up" to the iceberg coming, and they would have passed it easily
gleefan1997ilts 2 weeks ago 2
@gleefan1997ilts First off, remember that's not what happened in real life, they weren't distracted by young lovers kissind on the deck.
Second, even if that happened, as far as how it's depicted here, it doesn't come into view until they turn around anyway.
playoffexpert1 1 week ago
@gleefan1997ilts
It's a movie. That's not why they didn't catch the iceberg.
DoctorChained 1 week ago
@gleefan1997ilts But jack and Rose are fictional characters who knows what really distrcated the look outs that night
MDCAngryWalnut 1 week ago
She would probably had a helluva better chance had she turned hard starboard, and ordered full speed ahead, rather than going reverse which gave the berg a good atvantage of peeling up open like a sardine can..
FreedomMountain 2 weeks ago
They should have it the burg head on because it would have only damaged up to three compartments and it would loose som cargo and stuff but the ship would have survived they also should have covered the bulkheads with hatches that seal so the stokers could get out if you would have sealed the top of the bulkhead so water could not spill over
Tyws1999 3 weeks ago
@Tyws1999 i doubt they would have thought of all that in a minute .... and besides, when a ship's about to crash it's kind of like a car crash ... if a car is heading for your face, obviously you want to veer to the side to avoid it. it just so happens that the ship couldn't turn fast enough and that's why it crashed into the side of the iceberg and ripped it open
ForeverTaylorSwift11 2 weeks ago
Titanics a fake its the oplympic ship D:
ArateeGoldio 3 weeks ago
Ese fue el estúpido error que hundió el barco, poner reversa los motores, solo era girar el timón! y lo mas evidente creer que ni Dios podía hundirlo.
Fernando9276 3 weeks ago
I wonder if it was possible for them to keep the right propeller in forward position and the left in reverse wouldn't that have made her turn faster? or vice versa. Then go hard to port. I mean seriously she's 46329 tons heavy. Your not going to stop her in time.
shaneybrainy13 3 weeks ago
Imagine iof they did hit it head on, but it just breaks through and the port and starboard sides are still crunched open by the ice on the side, and it sinks none the less. There was no true win win but to just see the burg LONG before they actually saw it.
danuisortiz 3 weeks ago
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At 0:40 he is setting "Full astern" but in 0:43 there is "Full ahead"...
Miklerek 3 weeks ago
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Miklerek 3 weeks ago
Fleets: Iceburg right ahead!
Phone guy: AHHH! FUCK WHAT DO WE DO!
That's how it should have ended
TheNgamer1 3 weeks ago
@channel13ishy ; Ikr !!
Michaeljacksonluve1 3 weeks ago
man, i could watch this scene all day
aflacworld 3 weeks ago
I've always thought it was interesting that in the movie the wrong screw is in reverse. It appears the stbd screw is in reverse to help turn the ship to port, but in reality applying reverse to the stbd screw will swing the ship to stbd (assuming the port screw is still in forward). If you want to spin a vessel without making any appreciable headway (in tight harbors), all you have to do is put one screw in forward and the other in reverse to spin either clockwise or counterclockwise.
ksimmons8888 3 weeks ago
People bleeting about hitting the iceberg head-on are missing the point. They belong to the cuda, wuda, shuda brigade. It ain't helpful. Murdoch had a maximum of 30 seconds to make a correct call when most competent seamen would have needed a few minutes (at least) to make). Perhaps that is being to harsh. A century on and we have not made up our minds, and are still debating it.
CunningStunt777777 4 weeks ago
@CunningStunt777777 "wuda, cuda, shuda" as you so eloquently put it, is one of the most important things in maritime safety, my friend. Its called learning from mistakes and advancing theories in ship maneuvering. Its good that we are still debating it, as we should debate how all disasters are handled. It helps future mariners deal with similar situations. However, I think that hitting head on would not have been a preferable alternative.
gunterdak 3 weeks ago
@gunterdak That is not the context in which I offered my original post. I am talking about what the crew did and didn't do at the time, and whether it is legitimate to blame Murdoch for it, not the historical learning curve. Please don't take things out of context. Regards.
CunningStunt777777 3 weeks ago
Hitting the berg headon is what ive said all along. Think of the ship as an egg, put pressure on the side of it (in this case, the ice scraping) and the ice will win. But take that same egg and try squeezing it on its ends, and it wont break or at least not as easily. On another note, i sure wish i had that car that was in there, an original 1912 (ford?) like that brand new with all original parts, mint condition and unrestored....would be insanely valuable today.
circlelt1 4 weeks ago
The Titanic should of hit the ice berg straight on. Only the from of the bow would of been damaged instead of tiny holes along the side of the haul. At most 2 bulkheads would of been flooded verses the 5 when she hit the side and produced the holes.
vader5445 1 month ago
@vader5445
That would of made it Even Worse if they Hit it Straight on. It would of damaged the Ship Front Badly and could of sank like in 1 Hour 10 Mintures. You do Releise how Hard an Iceberg is right? Did you see how Fast the Water came in even when it Hit Underwater Ice and that Made the Ship Sink.
Luxayan 4 weeks ago
@Luxayan It may cause more damage...but the water wont have access to the like 4th or 5th bulk heads, since the openings would be concentrated in on area in the very tip of the bow vs along side of the haul.
vader5445 4 weeks ago
@vader5445 one**
vader5445 4 weeks ago
What a film maker James Cameron is
deanbolton01 1 month ago
I always wondered what the movie would be like it if it didn't hit the iceberg
channel13ishy 1 month ago
Apparently its been said that if they would of just turned and not slowed down, they would of avoided it.
tommy437 1 month ago
@tommy437 Not very likely. Their best bet was to hit head-on, and at most it could have crushed the strongest part of the hull and would have breached the first main bulkhead, perhaps the second, and they could have survived it, maybe even continue their trip(albeit slowly).
ShadowxofxDesolation 1 month ago
Officer order HARD TO STBD...the AB put the wheel hard to port...Anyway port or stbd it would be better to let the ship strike direct with the bow at the iceberg...less damage...few copartments were going to flood!
stingerkendris 1 month ago
@stingerkendris The guy freaked out and accidently put the wheel hard to port
80320trigger 1 month ago
i used to skip the whole movie to this part
aggeliki5z 1 month ago
@CFLsurfr I also think that if he would of rammed titanic right into the iceberg - the titanic wouldn't of sank!! Everyone would just shake a bit :) but he gambled and thought that he can escape the sinking even w/o breaking the ship!!! Dumb!!! :(
SuperMoshez 1 month ago
that would be officer Moody with the cup of tea.
TitanicBismarck1987 1 month ago
What are they all survived
0318438 1 month ago
wow
0318438 1 month ago
I used to like cross-atlantic travel, then I watched Titanic.
2012Castle 1 month ago
Now some woman has a book out that says the Helmsman turned the ship the wrong way...
kicker81164 1 month ago
@kicker81164 It's probably because she doesn't understand the terminology used back then.
DarthCipient 1 month ago
no 11:40 11:32
SorinBahnarianu 1 month ago
IT'S 108 DAYS TO GO BEFORE THE 100TH ANNIVERSARY OF SINKINIG TITANIC AND IT'S REAL!!!
ArtAttackPH 1 month ago
@ArtAttackPH 108?!!?! THE NUMBERS JACK!!
Ragman205 1 month ago
whenever i see this im like he shouldve picked up 10 seconds earlier
theTentativeGuise 1 month ago
i have a question: how water passed if they closed all the doors ?
my grandfather has a friend who was in a Greek warship in ww2 they hit a mine, lost all the front of the ship (nearly to the bridge), but still they make it to Alexandria
if you close the doors water doesnt pass...
elasolezito 1 month ago
@elasolezito The Titanic was not a warship, it was a luxury cruise liner. However yes it did have water-tight bulkheads, BUT they were not installed in every lower compartment of the ship, a huge mistake. Thomas Andrews knew of the issue and had plans to install water-tight bulkheads in all lower compartments, but pressure from Bruce Ismay and White Star Line forced him to cut some corners, another example being the amount of lifeboats per passenger issue.
CFLsurfr 1 month ago
@elasolezito So, with that said, the first four underwater compartments had water-tight bulkheads, that covered the bow of the ship plus some, but the cracks went to 5 compartments in length, and basically water just started spilling over the floors systematically. I personally think Capt Smith should have rammed her right into the iceburg, it would have destroyed the bow, but it could have been sealed. And shouldnt have been moving so damn fast, he knew better.
CFLsurfr 1 month ago
@elasolezito And you will even notice all the lights light up when he pulls the lever to shut the doors,(notice the compartments on top of the panel) like i said they had plans to finish all compartments, but it was never done. Thomas Andrews knew of this, and told Capt. Smith when he questioned him about it that he knew the ship was going to sink from the very beginning.
CFLsurfr 1 month ago
@CFLsurfr they give them many warnings and in the end titanic's captain and the others swear at them, maybe it was a reason why they "didnt see" them sinking...
elasolezito 1 month ago
They should have chil, nothing would have happened.
Synox89 1 month ago
Not the Iceberg was a close Thing.
3:58 - THIS was close!
Synox89 1 month ago
Bugger me...
TheNgamer1 1 month ago
The lieutenant called hard to starboard, yet the titanic went to the port....hahahah
CFLsurfr 1 month ago
@CFLsurfr I was just noticing that... I think that's what actually happened during the collision too.
DanSVT03 1 month ago
My opinion; The most epic scene in movie history. Such a shame on a nice ship, but a really cool scene there with the engine room.
Bergsmyntan 1 month ago
@Bergsmyntan too right about the engine room.
er10b 1 month ago
this is my favourite scene in the whole movie.
djrox666 1 month ago
the boat went down in 2 hrs and 40 min
firedemon02 1 month ago
they not turning cause they r going to fast 21 knots they going!! they tried to slow down but it was to late. they managed to turn a little bit. but they hit hard. if they did not turn at all she would have been damaged more. i know this because i have a relitive who was a first class. and she survived. she passed down the story for a long time.
firedemon02 1 month ago
@firedemon02 Actually, if they would have hit straight to the iceberg ship would have stay on the surface instead of sinking to the bottom. It was the long hit to the side which took the ship down. But cant blame them, I think everyone would have tried to avoid it instead of hitting it straight.
Kaboose666 1 month ago
Bugger Me!
XdjdaleyX 1 month ago
If time travel was invented, the first thing I would do is go back in time, get on the titanic and run up the that guy yelling "THERES AN ICEBERG COMING IN EXACTLY 10 MINUTES!! TURN TURN TURN!!" Think that would give them enough time?
HighlandBilby 1 month ago 7
@HighlandBilby yeah - then I'd run down to the engine room and stop the engines from being switched over to full reverse.
er10b 1 month ago
@HighlandBilby It probably wouldn't help. Titanic was the reason ships now stock up properly on lifeboats. And, knowing humanity, they probably wouldn't even believe you.
Sursion7 3 weeks ago
@HighlandBilby They would tell you to osber up most likely.
DarkenedPsycho 3 weeks ago
@DarkenedPsycho sober*
DarkenedPsycho 3 weeks ago
@HighlandBilby actually turning down the machines was the fatal mistake...they would have past it with full speed..
therpope 2 weeks ago
OMG THE DUDE KNOCKED THE COFFE FROM HIS HAND....what rudenes....
StormCloud025 1 month ago 14
@StormCloud025 It was English Tea.
charlieiscool1000 1 month ago
where does icebergs come from ?
badturkali 1 month ago
@badturkali icebergs live together but sometimes things don't go well because they realize that they are no more in love.So they take divorce and leaving each other.
Aprosarmostos94 1 month ago
@Aprosarmostos94 thats not funny, stop making jokes about something that created a disaster and people who died
badturkali 1 month ago
@badturkali Icebergs come from glaciers and ice sheets in the polar cap. They break off and simply float in the water.
cudamanfl 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
@badturkali i never told something about titanic's iceberg... right?
Aprosarmostos94 1 month ago
@StormCloud025 Think you'll find it is tea, we are English after all, dear chap :P
TheScottishBaker 2 weeks ago
1:18 Imagine having a triple expansion engine the size of one of the Titanic's engines on your car... the torque once you got up to 150 psi would tear the entire car apart.
erikals2 1 month ago
1:16 that's one job my 3 year old self would have done easily.
erikals2 1 month ago
2 reasons why the iceberg was able to damage Titanic's hull
1.the water temp made the steel weak
2.the rivets were made with Iron #3 instead of Iron #4
MNsportguru88 1 month ago
@MNsportguru88 I recently learned that steel of that time contained greater amounts of impurities this is in reference to sulfur deposits so that when steel hardened it was not able to provide what a metal without traces of sulfur could provide.
Uncle65788 1 month ago
I wonder would the iceberg it's self still be somewhat intact because it's very large and in a cold area.
jazz265 1 month ago
@jazz265 No of course not the iceberg would have melted years ago in fact it would have melted a few months after it hit titanic but there are prob still lots floating around that area and the ship was never unsinkable the press dubbed it as such never the white star line but they had such arrogance that they thought that it was superior in its making.
charlieiscool1000 1 month ago
@jazz265 your right. only like 0.00000000000000001 % of the iceburg fell off.
quintanafaj2009 1 month ago
if titanic would of hit the iceberg straight on the ship would of stayed afloat but hindsites always 20/20
Wargod1395 1 month ago
It's shocking that the Titanic sunk but I think it's even more shocking that the ship sunk on it's first time out. Karma's a bitch.
jazz265 1 month ago
@jazz265 Karma? How is that karma? If Titanic had ghetto stomped an ice cube before hand then maybe, but as far as I'm aware it didn't
OVERKILLxxPro 1 month ago
@OVERKILLxxPro well it was supposed to be an unsinkable ship and they pushed the ship to beyond it's limits (and didn't know that the ship it's self was flawed from the beginning) so i guess it's more Irony then Karma actually
jazz265 1 month ago
can anyone please tell me what the thing the officer at 0:34 is turning?
SourceNeon 1 month ago
@SourceNeon An engine telegraph. It changes the corresponding telegraph in the engine room (0:42), and that tells the people operating the engine to run it in which direction and at what speed. In this case, full astern, which means full reverse.
xitzandrewx 1 month ago
@xitzandrewx Thank you so much for the explanation!
SourceNeon 1 month ago
@xitzandrewx some were chain driven, they had the disadvantage of having to be adjusted regularly. There were electric engine telegraphs which required electric power from the ship's generators to run but they never needed adjusting.
erikals2 1 month ago
Guy: Now for my cup off tea
Murdock: Trololol
TheNoVaProDucT 1 month ago 19
But your forgetting one thing in the design that works as a plus or minus due to the fact that murdock reversed the 2 outer propellors and has they middle one stopped basically disabled the ships turning ability due to the fact of the middle propellor being infront of the rudder if they would have turned hard a port well maintaining there speed my calculations prove they would have missed the burg by meters this after missing it would have had time to slow down in case of another burg
Tyws1999 1 month ago
@Tyws1999
Murdoch most likely shopped the engines to remove the risk of the starboard propellor coming into contact with the iceberg while still rotating - remember that he had been on the Olympic when she lost a propellor blade and knew how badly this would shake the engines up.
So with the starboard propellor shut down, the port engine would be pushing AGAINST the turn, so he stopped it too, which also stopped the central prop, as it ran on exhaust steam from the main engines.
LetsWatchTugs 1 month ago
Blooper - he said "Hard a Starboard (right).
The guy turns the wheel left.....
gnarkillkicksass 1 month ago
@gnarkillkicksass
Not a blooper - in the days of sail, when ships were steered with a tiller, commands were reversed - an order to 'port the helm' (i.e. 'push the tiller to the left') would actually cause the ship to turn to starboard. The British Merchant Marine, in the spirit of tradition, continued using this outdated system until well after the Titanic sank.
LetsWatchTugs 1 month ago
Pick up you BASTARDS
VuxPro 1 month ago
Whenever I watch this scene "Come on...Come on....GOD DAMN IT!! FUCK YOU ICEBURG! FUCK. YOU."
SongCoversable 1 month ago 16
Wrong propeller, Murdoch. -_-
xitzandrewx 1 month ago 4
Why'd they say hard to starboard but the went to port
state135 1 month ago
i found a mistake when the titanic is not turning its like 20 yards away and then it moves between shots
Astrid5764 1 month ago
nice video! on my channel it is in german ;)
xminepowerD 1 month ago
Actually, if they had hit the iceburg head on, the ship actually wouldnt have sunk. The strongest and thickest part of the ship was the bow, and they would have mearly hit and caused a panic but no damage would have been done. Im not saying they were stupid, i would have probably turned too if i was on the ship, just making a point.
stawaz 1 month ago
@stawaz they were going very fast, i think the ship would turn after that to the left or right if they hit it head on, because icebergs are much bigger underwater, who knows what is front of the iceberg
still they should have travel slower and listen to the warnings
elasolezito 1 month ago
@stawaz Agreed, but the first hundred feet of the bow would have crumpled up like a sardine can and all the firemen quartered in that part of the ship would have died horribly - without history to show that the alternative would have been much worse, Murdoch would have been lynched at the enquiry, with everyone demanding of him why he didn't simply steer around the berg.
Poor man was in an untenable position both ways.
LetsWatchTugs 1 month ago
My grandmother was on titanic when she was little girl she lost her dad aka my great grand farther she said she saw the whole ship as it lifted to it split she so scared of what could of happened but know she home with me and my family she iwas 5 at the time unfortunately she died in 2009 may 18th loves her forever you strong hearted women -3
Applebite1997 1 month ago
@Applebite1997 so was my gran may they rest in pece forever
oneill2001 1 month ago
Murdoch: "An Iceberg Sir..I ordered Hard-a-Starboard and ran the engines Full-Astern but she was too close, I tried to port round it but she hit!!"
davidatcuwclubnet 1 month ago
the iceburg looks fake lol
teeSHEBRAellie 1 month ago
Those idiots, they should have gone through it.
MrVogelz 1 month ago
@MrVogelz Then they would have destroyed the entire bow of the ship xP
a01087483 1 month ago
27 people can not run as fast as mr murdoch
xminepowerD 1 month ago
Titanic why you so fat. TURN YOU FAT BITCH
Hatchwork 1 month ago
my dads granma died the night i miss her when i was a kid my granma played with me and i cry about it infact im crying now me to i was on titanic but i went on a life boat im 123 years old now so thats my story my wife died to.
insaneepicminecraft 2 months ago
@insaneepicminecraft WTF
Hatchwork 1 month ago
Funny, I always remembered him saying "Iceberg, dead ahead!". : /
teamrocketmottos2 2 months ago
i like turtels
moeller1597 2 months ago
"Why aren't they turning?!"
Murdoch: (murmurs): come on, come on, come on, turn.....
"SHE'S GONNA HIT!"
and then, just like that, everyone's lives would be changed.
CheesyNachos4 2 months ago
The time from when they saw the berg til the actual collision was much longer than 37 seconds.
moneyslutsandhoes 2 months ago