@poptrunk06 - I was more concerned with the background (camera?) noise but we all get distracted, I like this guys´ lessons regardless, it´s stuff you can actually understand and use (unless you stare at his balls perhaps, might get you off track if you are thus inclined :-)
@ferayalaarrambide - No. Chord tones are named according to the dominant major (aka mixolydian) scale, regardless of what type of chord is being played (major, minor dominant). Hence C# is the 13th for ANY (and all) E chords.
An Em7 chord with an added C natural would be an Em7b13 (flat 13th)
@RSVPBlogger The Em7add13 chord is basically the ii chord of the D major scale. So basically playing a Em7add13 chord with a C# your basically giving the chord a Dorian sound.
If I saw a min chord with a 13th I would imediately think of the Dorian mode since a) it's a minor mode and b) it has a major 6th (13th) as apposed to Phrygian or Aeolian which both have a minor 6th (b6). This is where I'd start right out of the gate and if I wanted to get "outside" in a solo I would look at scales that have the R-b3-5-b7 and a major 6th any thing else would be tension. IMHO!
Em7add13 or em7add6. 1, b3, 5, b7, and add the 13th. The 13th is only the 6th note in the major or minor scale. Theres 7 notes in the scale, so when u get to the 7th note, keep counting. 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, and 13. Youll c that the 13th and the 6th r the same thing. O.k im done ranting, nice lesson bro, i gotta work on more funk & flavor.
I've always thought of it if as add6 if the note is the same octave as the root, add13 if its the 6th from the octave above. That is of course based on zero proper music training, just how i think of it.
the 13th only applies to a major scale... so even a minor chord with a 13 takes the major 6th above the root ;) (so even though this is an Em chord, it takes from the 6 of E major (C#).
bar the 1st (High E), 2nd (B), 3rd (G) strings with your pointer finger on the 7th fret. Place your middle finger on the 2nd (B) string 8th fret, then place either your pinky or that other finger on the 1st (High E) string 9th fret. . hope that helps
Not necessarily. By that mentality you ought to have an 11th in there as well, which is typically a no-no in chords with major thirds. Any 7th chord with an extension should be referred to by it's highest extension, regardless of what other extensions are or are not in the chord.
you do, if it doesn't have the 9th and 11th. if you had, it would be Em13 - with all the notes of scale played in triads. if it's Em7 and 13th, then it's Em7add13, or Em7/13, but not Em13
I understand what you mean, but that's not how chord naming works.
The only requirement for an extended chord is the basic tertian structure and the 7th. It's extremely common to omit 9, 11, out of a 13th chord. This doesn't change the naming of the chord, as the fundamental tones are still present.
If Em13 the only require is: 1-b3-b7-13. 5th is colorless, 9th and 11th are colorless unless altered. You could even drop the root if you had a bassist playing it.
Maybe, but it is misleading. Saying Xm7add13, you instantly know you need 1 3 5 7 13. Saying Xm13 will make (most people, I am sure), think 1 3 5 7 9 11 13.
A huge benefit of theory and naming is communication- passing words easily without confusion.
I would if this were in any way arguable, but what you're saying is inconsistent with the definitions and common agreed upon terms of music theory.
"add" implies an extension on a triad. "add" cannot exist if a 7th is present, thus, 7add13 is erroneous in itself. Beyond that, you don't name a chord based upon how it's voiced, except in particular situations. 9 and 11 can be omitted from the chord, and don't change the name- thus the name doesnt need to change when they aren't present.
You could resolve this very easily by providing a source for your statement.
It could be a rule (though I'm not aware of it), but regardless, I think there is communicative value in specifically using an Xadd13 notation, when an X13 symbol would include the 9 and the 11. Would you disagree with that in principle, regardless of (what you will hopefully demonstrate is) convention?
It's pretty obvious your knowledge is insufficient in this argument based on your reaction. "add" is a specific chord symbol. "add" means you adding an extension (9, 11, 13) onto a triad.
The difference between C9 and Cadd9, for instance, is that C9 has a 7th. Once a 7th is present, extensions are not notated with "add", they're the name of the chord. So, Em13 versus Em7add13 is a conflict between; improper use of the "add" convention and, the proper way to name the chord.
and this chord has ONE added fucking extension, so WHAT is the problem? Em7add13 tells us exactly what it is, no fucking wondering. Now shut the fuck up.
Well you know you can omit the others, and get the same chord, functionally, so that's why things like aren't embedded into the chord naming system. If guitarists just learned how to read music it'd be a lot easier to express things musically.
Then the chord name changes, because the extension actually matters in the chord: IE: it's the name of the chord. If the extensions are natural they are implied and colorless, and can be removed without altering the chord name.
That's because the highest extension is the name of the chord, if there's no 13th...the chord wouldn't be called 13. If there wasn't an 11, or a 13th it'd be called 9. I'm not sure how this relates at all to anything previously discussed.
Basic principle:
-Highest extension=name of chord
-All natural extensions lower than extension that is chord name=omittable, and irrelevant to the quality of the chord
turn your guitar up please
eladyokal 6 months ago
what guitar is that ? ?
JohnJR2009 7 months ago
but...what's the point of that lesson?
daiano89 8 months ago
@daiano89 To learn the riff?
FiestyMclovin 6 months ago
DISTRACTING BALL WTF!!!
DCUkorn77 8 months ago 2
very very thin sound..
gerby90 8 months ago
A bit like Show Me Your Soul by the Chili Peppers
McLovinGuitar3 8 months ago
The D note is the 13th, right?
beerdeddi1 9 months ago
Why not 5th? 13 because it is far from the root note?
112358miau 9 months ago
@groovey65 yeah... my balls are bigger... fuckin faggot
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poptrunk06 10 months ago
good lesson but man we dont wanna see yo balls in dem tight azz pants... i almost flagged diz video
poptrunk06 10 months ago
@poptrunk06 dude I think you are the only person to notice that, is there anything you want to tell us?
groovey65 10 months ago
@poptrunk06 - I was more concerned with the background (camera?) noise but we all get distracted, I like this guys´ lessons regardless, it´s stuff you can actually understand and use (unless you stare at his balls perhaps, might get you off track if you are thus inclined :-)
OberstHulmbug 9 months ago
good lesson
bubafoo 10 months ago
Sounds like the intro to a bad porno.
"Hey baby, did you order a EXTRA LARGE... SAUSAGE pizza?"
evillutionskate 1 year ago 35
@evillutionskate
porn <333333333333333333
swaaayful 1 year ago
@evillutionskate listen to Oh Yeah by Yello, now thats a porno song
sulezraz 1 year ago
@evillutionskate hhaaaaa
Augenatic 6 months ago
@evillutionskate FUCK! This is probably the best comment I've seen on Youtube.
frivascif 4 months ago
this is a really simple but fantastic lesson. just what i've been looking for. THANX!
louie180 1 year ago
hey i got a little doutbt, isn't the 13 for Em C instread of C#(the one you are playing on the 1st string 9th fret?)
ferayalaarrambide 1 year ago
@ferayalaarrambide - No. Chord tones are named according to the dominant major (aka mixolydian) scale, regardless of what type of chord is being played (major, minor dominant). Hence C# is the 13th for ANY (and all) E chords.
An Em7 chord with an added C natural would be an Em7b13 (flat 13th)
RSVPBlogger 1 year ago
@RSVPBlogger The Em7add13 chord is basically the ii chord of the D major scale. So basically playing a Em7add13 chord with a C# your basically giving the chord a Dorian sound.
wimpy77 1 year ago
hey i got a little doutbt, isn't the 13 for Em C instread o C#(the one you are playing on the 1st string 9th fret?)
ferayalaarrambide 1 year ago
giant cammel toe....
NeverStopEating 1 year ago 6
@NeverStopEating
hhwwuueeagh
That was me dry-heaving.
WoWintosh 1 year ago
this dude is nervous
rODIUMuk 1 year ago
@silverhazey67.... I think it is E7#9. I´m not sure. Anyway who cares? :)
tweenboxyeah 1 year ago
Thanks a lot for a this lesson. Pls advice how to get this jamtrack?
Thanks
Dmitriter 1 year ago
so thats the prince chord
FrettiYeti 1 year ago
@FrettiYeti Purple Haze by hendrix uses that chord if im not mistaken
silverhazey67 1 year ago
@FrettiYeti nice catch, does feel like that don't it?
twst1 1 year ago
If I saw a min chord with a 13th I would imediately think of the Dorian mode since a) it's a minor mode and b) it has a major 6th (13th) as apposed to Phrygian or Aeolian which both have a minor 6th (b6). This is where I'd start right out of the gate and if I wanted to get "outside" in a solo I would look at scales that have the R-b3-5-b7 and a major 6th any thing else would be tension. IMHO!
MWMcKinley 1 year ago
@MWMcKinley
ya that's what I mean... a minor chord with a 13 is dorian, but in relation to the root, it comes from the major scale (the major 6th interval).
CP47 1 year ago
@MWMcKinley baby, you need to put up some more videos
twst1 1 year ago
cool ggroove man
licksforalltheplayas 1 year ago
just got one thing to say..........w00t
doveign 1 year ago
this guy is a good teacher
fostex101 1 year ago
2:06 ihihih chaka chaka on that note ihihih
ThierryLouis 2 years ago 2
sex machine intro
berseker123459 2 years ago 20
merci pour cette video
tchibangcity 2 years ago
Get on up
PabloMaffioli 2 years ago 3
Em7add13 or em7add6. 1, b3, 5, b7, and add the 13th. The 13th is only the 6th note in the major or minor scale. Theres 7 notes in the scale, so when u get to the 7th note, keep counting. 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, and 13. Youll c that the 13th and the 6th r the same thing. O.k im done ranting, nice lesson bro, i gotta work on more funk & flavor.
BboyArpeggios 2 years ago
I've always thought of it if as add6 if the note is the same octave as the root, add13 if its the 6th from the octave above. That is of course based on zero proper music training, just how i think of it.
LiamE69 2 years ago
@BboyArpeggios
the 13th only applies to a major scale... so even a minor chord with a 13 takes the major 6th above the root ;) (so even though this is an Em chord, it takes from the 6 of E major (C#).
CP47 2 years ago 2
@CP47 You sure it doesn't take the major 6th of the Dorian mode?
MWMcKinley 1 year ago
@BboyArpeggios you know ur shit bro i wish i could get lessons off you.
fostex101 1 year ago
nice strat geezer
strabbs1 2 years ago
bar the 1st (High E), 2nd (B), 3rd (G) strings with your pointer finger on the 7th fret. Place your middle finger on the 2nd (B) string 8th fret, then place either your pinky or that other finger on the 1st (High E) string 9th fret. . hope that helps
zoso1944 2 years ago
im just learning guitar i can play what i see but im not great with the fingers on chords
what threats n what strings should i be hitting with what fingers lol
Please help me improve my shitness
Thanks
mjjrocks 2 years ago
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tomthefunky 2 years ago
sex machine ;)
deanexplosion 2 years ago 2
sounds like james brown,
nice bassline btw..;)
RoL4ndInHo 2 years ago 3
just curious as to why you use your pinky finger for the C# note on the E string as opposed to your ring finger?
algoriddm 2 years ago
Pinky. the others are for muting!
Kjutte1 2 years ago
nah
algoriddm 2 years ago
Wow, you are one annoying little faggot. Did your mom refuse to blow you off this morning?
Kjutte1 2 years ago
but to make it a true 13 chord you'd have to add the 9 too right? or not?
IWishIWasFinnish 2 years ago
Not necessarily. By that mentality you ought to have an 11th in there as well, which is typically a no-no in chords with major thirds. Any 7th chord with an extension should be referred to by it's highest extension, regardless of what other extensions are or are not in the chord.
familygroovecompany 2 years ago
oh ok then thanks for the info
IWishIWasFinnish 2 years ago
its add 13 so i dont think so, but i could be wrong. If it was Em13 then yes
FargandSirHomerlots 2 years ago
It's an add13, not X 13.
Kjutte1 2 years ago
You can't really "add" an extension once you have the 7th. May as well just call it Em13
emixolydian 2 years ago
you do, if it doesn't have the 9th and 11th. if you had, it would be Em13 - with all the notes of scale played in triads. if it's Em7 and 13th, then it's Em7add13, or Em7/13, but not Em13
axiluss 2 years ago 4
I understand what you mean, but that's not how chord naming works.
The only requirement for an extended chord is the basic tertian structure and the 7th. It's extremely common to omit 9, 11, out of a 13th chord. This doesn't change the naming of the chord, as the fundamental tones are still present.
emixolydian 2 years ago
@axiluss Remind me not to play you at Chords & Scales ~Top Trumps!
Coppertunes 1 year ago
E mixo, that's bullshit. you can add whatever you want. If you say Em13 everyone will think 1 3 5 7 9 13
Kjutte1 2 years ago
No it's not bullshit, it's a fact.
If Em13 the only require is: 1-b3-b7-13. 5th is colorless, 9th and 11th are colorless unless altered. You could even drop the root if you had a bassist playing it.
emixolydian 2 years ago
Maybe, but it is misleading. Saying Xm7add13, you instantly know you need 1 3 5 7 13. Saying Xm13 will make (most people, I am sure), think 1 3 5 7 9 11 13.
A huge benefit of theory and naming is communication- passing words easily without confusion.
Kjutte1 2 years ago
And that is a improper use of the add convention, thus making it ineffective and inconsistent, which consequently makes communication ineffective.
Chord names aren't supposed to be voicing specific, unless you're using figured bass or notation.
emixolydian 2 years ago
Agree to disagree.
Kjutte1 2 years ago
I would if this were in any way arguable, but what you're saying is inconsistent with the definitions and common agreed upon terms of music theory.
"add" implies an extension on a triad. "add" cannot exist if a 7th is present, thus, 7add13 is erroneous in itself. Beyond that, you don't name a chord based upon how it's voiced, except in particular situations. 9 and 11 can be omitted from the chord, and don't change the name- thus the name doesnt need to change when they aren't present.
emixolydian 2 years ago
You could resolve this very easily by providing a source for your statement.
It could be a rule (though I'm not aware of it), but regardless, I think there is communicative value in specifically using an Xadd13 notation, when an X13 symbol would include the 9 and the 11. Would you disagree with that in principle, regardless of (what you will hopefully demonstrate is) convention?
Chameleon41 2 years ago
It's pretty obvious your knowledge is insufficient in this argument based on your reaction. "add" is a specific chord symbol. "add" means you adding an extension (9, 11, 13) onto a triad.
The difference between C9 and Cadd9, for instance, is that C9 has a 7th. Once a 7th is present, extensions are not notated with "add", they're the name of the chord. So, Em13 versus Em7add13 is a conflict between; improper use of the "add" convention and, the proper way to name the chord.
emixolydian 2 years ago
and this chord has ONE added fucking extension, so WHAT is the problem? Em7add13 tells us exactly what it is, no fucking wondering. Now shut the fuck up.
Kjutte1 2 years ago
It didn't add anything, there's a 7th. If there's 7th "add" is not used.
emixolydian 2 years ago
I don't see why it shouldn't. It's nice to know if you can add 13 solely, or if you have to add the others also. Explain it in a logical way?
Kjutte1 2 years ago
Well you know you can omit the others, and get the same chord, functionally, so that's why things like aren't embedded into the chord naming system. If guitarists just learned how to read music it'd be a lot easier to express things musically.
emixolydian 2 years ago
what if it's an E13 but you happen to have an altered 9th?
Kjutte1 2 years ago
Then the chord name changes, because the extension actually matters in the chord: IE: it's the name of the chord. If the extensions are natural they are implied and colorless, and can be removed without altering the chord name.
emixolydian 2 years ago
What about the X9 - X13 ? Pretty obvious change there, even if there are no altered notes.
Kjutte1 2 years ago
That's because the highest extension is the name of the chord, if there's no 13th...the chord wouldn't be called 13. If there wasn't an 11, or a 13th it'd be called 9. I'm not sure how this relates at all to anything previously discussed.
Basic principle:
-Highest extension=name of chord
-All natural extensions lower than extension that is chord name=omittable, and irrelevant to the quality of the chord
-Any altered extension must be in chord name.
emixolydian 2 years ago
Right, bad example I agree.
Kjutte1 2 years ago
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rillloudmother 2 years ago
What no chickenpluking or chinkas?
BionicBass 2 years ago
Nifty.
largemoose 2 years ago
ah! awesome. I'll be stealing this one! :D
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kristoefir56 2 years ago
5 *****
gagiandjeo 3 years ago
congrats man, the thrill of a new guitar is awesome, specialy being a white fender :D
nanathenai 3 years ago
whats wrong with a black strat?
sorry just being an ass for the sake of being an ass.
i could care less,
rmweav11 2 years ago
I have a black strat myself, so nothing wrong :) a white one looks so fresh, you feel instant hendrix when you put it on :)
nanathenai 2 years ago
I've got a black and white fender strat, but dont care about the color, care about the sound!
goreri 2 years ago
was that a song from t.o.p? cause it sounds like.
hamaknaflint 3 years ago
i have the same guitar
love2playguitar 3 years ago
nice dude.
Ibik 3 years ago 2
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he said G-string hahahah !
Jetwakka 3 years ago
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stfu noob
pedoncule123 3 years ago 10
LOL XD
people often say this when talking about guitar stuff
AndyVerok 3 years ago
Thank you so much for the lesson!!
radwillxx 3 years ago 16
Sounds like Wayne Krantz
Azrael888 3 years ago 4
Wayne Krantz is the man.
Fishies125 3 years ago 2