hey...niam txiv,cov hmoob chinese muaj ntau tribes ua luaj li es lawv puas tau muaj ib hom lus officially language tag nrho cov hmoob nkag siab sib tham tau,los yog lawv nyias hais nyias local lus xwb? thiab peb yuav hais hom lus twg lawb thiab nkag siab,vim peb tsis paub mandarin.
stupid miao/hmong people, whats so special about them. they dont even have a country and take up space. there just low asians and dont even campare with chinese koreans japanese and maybe that of south east other asians. low dogs
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@niamtxiv Already said, western, central, n eastern are purely geographic designation of known Miao-Hmong settlements in China. The designation by no means claims all western or eastern Miao-Hmong r intelligible within their own region. Prime example, green n white, we all agree r hmong yet 1 can intelligibly understand the other. Y do u think green learned/speak white n vice versa. The connection, again, was solely within their customs. All unique n Miao-Hmong identifiers worldwide.
@niamtxiv If the Miao-Yao(Hmong-Mien) language group as you claim is homogenous then Hmong can intelligibly understand Mien, Yao, etc. They cannot n vice versa. Mien n Yao r brethens yet they r unintelligible with each other like all Miao dialects in China. As stated, on language alone, the Miao-Hmong, argue they r unique. It's the customs that tied them altogether which they eventually realised, accepted - some questioning to a degree. Well documented/researched by scholars.
@niamtxiv Again, where do u get ur info? Hmu n Ahao n Ahmao r 1 n the same group. As for the class of language, Miao-Yao, now labeled Hmong-Mien, they r not homogenous period. Homogenous means having or sharing a single uniformity/trait/origin. It's soley to categorize all the 1000s of the languages, not to say if they belong to one group then they r intelligible. Not true. Only that they share common\borrowed words or sound similar when spoken.
@niamtxiv Language wise, most if not all research, say all miao groups r different even among white n green hmong who we all agree r hmong from se asia. To say all miao are hmong is stretching it on the basis of language alone simply because they r all unintelligible - ahmao, goxiong, hmong etc. Where a clear connection is made is the explicit customs n rituals - shaman, weddings, funerals - shared by all amidst slight/expected variance not in Han or other non-hmong miao.
actually that is not true. Out of all the major family linguistic groups in Asia -- Altaic, Sino-Tibetan, Tai-Kadai, Mon-Khmer, Miao-Yao......... the Miao languages are still very homogenous.
@niamtxiv Not sure where u get ur info but documented books by known researchers state Ahmao's language is unintelligible with hmong n other miao languages. Yes there are some shared/borrowed words but it is far far from 80%. I suspect u r looking at it geographically not by groups since as a whole western miao do speak closer hmong than eastern miao. Take Mim Haam's people, miao, who r western. They speak over 80% hmong but r not Ahmao. Then Ayouduo, eastern miao, less than 50% if not more.
The A-Hmao and Hmong are classified as Western Miao because both groups are share approximately very close relationship. The Hmu/Kanao are classed as the Central Miao. Their language share only 45 to 50% similarities. The Eastern Miao or Gho Xiong; however, share only 20 to 30% similarities... of course, all will be unintelligible to one another. "Unintelligible" means unable to understand one another clearly.. it doesn't mean "not fully understand one another."
@kashmonkey The ahmao also called hmu n ahao is not the same as hmong. Ahmao's language is completely unintelligible with hmong. It believed both ahmao n hmong share a common ancestry though along with other miao such as the go xiong, gu, etc. It's fairly complicated since all these groups are different in certain ways. Kind of sad in a ways because they all look like hmong but are so different too.
Yes, A-Hmao is semi-intelligible. More so than other dialects. I can understand most of what they say, when spoken. There are some videos of them "speaking". In song or fast speech, it's harder to understand, but if you listen closely during slow or normal speech, you can understand most.
Hey! I recognize the song. It's the welcoming song!
jephboy 7 months ago
hey...niam txiv,cov hmoob chinese muaj ntau tribes ua luaj li es lawv puas tau muaj ib hom lus officially language tag nrho cov hmoob nkag siab sib tham tau,los yog lawv nyias hais nyias local lus xwb? thiab peb yuav hais hom lus twg lawb thiab nkag siab,vim peb tsis paub mandarin.
mrrojntshavhmoob 1 year ago
@mrrojntshavhmoob Lawv nyias hais nyias cov local lus xwb. Koj hais kuv tsis paub. Kuv hais koj tsis paub. Tsis muaj ib hom lus officially lawv tag nrog hais thiab paub except Mandarin. Qhov no yog ib txoj kev peb kwv tij Miao kho tsis tau los sis yuav tau koom siab kho yav tom ntej. Ib qho tu siab kawg yog muaj hais lub ntsiab.
aliasdoe007 1 year ago
@niamtxiv Right. (Email works fine.) Nevermind then. Perhaps you are not the person to ask such questions. Laters.
aliasdoe007 1 year ago
@niamtxiv I did note you my email. It is: aliasdoe007 at google.
aliasdoe007 1 year ago
@aliasdoe007
I'm sorry, but I emailed you and it did not work.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@niamtxiv See msg: "Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: ijianeng at hotmail dot com"
I understand if you do not want to email me nor receive an email. It's cool. Laters.
aliasdoe007 1 year ago
@aliasdoe007
okay, note me your email.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
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stupid miao/hmong people, whats so special about them. they dont even have a country and take up space. there just low asians and dont even campare with chinese koreans japanese and maybe that of south east other asians. low dogs
not even educated
tribesking 1 year ago
@niamtxiv Note? Email me. It's only a question. I am just curious as to what your thoughts/perspective is. If you don't want to email me, it's understandable.
aliasdoe007 1 year ago
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email me
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niamtxiv 1 year ago
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Email sent.
aliasdoe007 1 year ago
@niamtxiv I have a serious question I want to inquire you about? Either post your email or add me as a buddy so I can email you thru youtube . My email is this userid (aliasdoe007) at google dot com. Either way I'd like to ask you something important.
aliasdoe007 1 year ago
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niamtxiv 1 year ago
@niamtxiv Already said, western, central, n eastern are purely geographic designation of known Miao-Hmong settlements in China. The designation by no means claims all western or eastern Miao-Hmong r intelligible within their own region. Prime example, green n white, we all agree r hmong yet 1 can intelligibly understand the other. Y do u think green learned/speak white n vice versa. The connection, again, was solely within their customs. All unique n Miao-Hmong identifiers worldwide.
aliasdoe007 1 year ago
@niamtxiv If the Miao-Yao(Hmong-Mien) language group as you claim is homogenous then Hmong can intelligibly understand Mien, Yao, etc. They cannot n vice versa. Mien n Yao r brethens yet they r unintelligible with each other like all Miao dialects in China. As stated, on language alone, the Miao-Hmong, argue they r unique. It's the customs that tied them altogether which they eventually realised, accepted - some questioning to a degree. Well documented/researched by scholars.
aliasdoe007 1 year ago
@niamtxiv Again, where do u get ur info? Hmu n Ahao n Ahmao r 1 n the same group. As for the class of language, Miao-Yao, now labeled Hmong-Mien, they r not homogenous period. Homogenous means having or sharing a single uniformity/trait/origin. It's soley to categorize all the 1000s of the languages, not to say if they belong to one group then they r intelligible. Not true. Only that they share common\borrowed words or sound similar when spoken.
aliasdoe007 1 year ago
@niamtxiv Language wise, most if not all research, say all miao groups r different even among white n green hmong who we all agree r hmong from se asia. To say all miao are hmong is stretching it on the basis of language alone simply because they r all unintelligible - ahmao, goxiong, hmong etc. Where a clear connection is made is the explicit customs n rituals - shaman, weddings, funerals - shared by all amidst slight/expected variance not in Han or other non-hmong miao.
aliasdoe007 1 year ago
@aliasdoe007
actually that is not true. Out of all the major family linguistic groups in Asia -- Altaic, Sino-Tibetan, Tai-Kadai, Mon-Khmer, Miao-Yao......... the Miao languages are still very homogenous.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@niamtxiv Not sure where u get ur info but documented books by known researchers state Ahmao's language is unintelligible with hmong n other miao languages. Yes there are some shared/borrowed words but it is far far from 80%. I suspect u r looking at it geographically not by groups since as a whole western miao do speak closer hmong than eastern miao. Take Mim Haam's people, miao, who r western. They speak over 80% hmong but r not Ahmao. Then Ayouduo, eastern miao, less than 50% if not more.
aliasdoe007 1 year ago
@aliasdoe007
The A-Hmao and Hmong are classified as Western Miao because both groups are share approximately very close relationship. The Hmu/Kanao are classed as the Central Miao. Their language share only 45 to 50% similarities. The Eastern Miao or Gho Xiong; however, share only 20 to 30% similarities... of course, all will be unintelligible to one another. "Unintelligible" means unable to understand one another clearly.. it doesn't mean "not fully understand one another."
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@kashmonkey The ahmao also called hmu n ahao is not the same as hmong. Ahmao's language is completely unintelligible with hmong. It believed both ahmao n hmong share a common ancestry though along with other miao such as the go xiong, gu, etc. It's fairly complicated since all these groups are different in certain ways. Kind of sad in a ways because they all look like hmong but are so different too.
aliasdoe007 1 year ago
@aliasdoe007
actually, the A-Hmao language is shared 80%. All Miao branches share a common ancestry.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@niamtxiv
Yes, A-Hmao is semi-intelligible. More so than other dialects. I can understand most of what they say, when spoken. There are some videos of them "speaking". In song or fast speech, it's harder to understand, but if you listen closely during slow or normal speech, you can understand most.
jephboy 7 months ago
is there anything that distinguishes the A-Hmao from the Hmong? Or are they just the same group?
kashmonkey 1 year ago
Interesting.....and the song is so upbeat...lol
SuperLeeXiong 2 years ago