Ya, to be true to the "tradition" those uppity young folk should only play the harp and the eagle bone whistle. Anything else is a European import, eh? Fortunately, music itself transcends small minds. If ya don't care for the setting, switch the channel. We'll all be dead soon enough, eh? I prefer to enjoy the lively arts than sit at home cursing the living.
Therein lies your problem mate...traditional music is just that, traditional. It doesn't need a "way forward". It doesn't need to be made "relevant". If you find yourself growing bored with traditional music, may I humbly suggest.....USER ERROR
Problem? I enjoy Michael Coleman as much as the Flaming Lips or Stravinsky. If there's a "problem" in this thread it's some stone narrow-mindedness. Traditional music has to move forward to survive. Do you think it hasn't ever changed?? It's evolving just as the communities from where it originates are evolving. Without it we wouldn't have the rich culture of music in Galicia or Cape Breton or America.
@bfocs Traditional music needs to keep true to its roots otherwise you end up with"bluegrass" which totally destroys the original tunes, and the players continually try to "move forward" and play faster and faster, thus compounding the problem and trashing the original melody and tempo!
A pity you couldn't be 'taken aback' any farther. The fact of the matter is that this being a published video, it is subject to commentary and criticism. I think it's shit. You don't. Fair play to you. But what is NOT a matter of opinion is the volume and funk being liberally applied to traditional music. Undeniable. I think it's a horrible horrible thing. For fecks sake if you feel the need to 'rock out', please confine yourselves to rock music and not traditional music.
I'm sure some people similar to yourself felt the same way about blues when Robert Johnson's music was brought from it's origins to give us legends like JImi Hendrix and Eric Clapton. Mike McGoldrick, Sharon Shannon, Lau and many others I feel are lighting the way forward for traditional music, while still keeping the trad very much present.
Why all of the childish arguing about music? This is something we should enjoy. It is art, you can take it as you please. But please don't ruin it with politics.
Get over it. YouTube is a public forum in which commentary plays an inherent and vital function. It is a matter of debate whether this example qualifies as 'music' or not...
you have such a closed mind seanearnest, shelng with many others like sharon shannon, gerry o connor, mike mcgoldrick etc, are making the trad music more accesible 2 youths, and encourage them 2 play irish music as a result. they get inspired, i think its this progression that will keep the music alive for generations to come
As to what qualifies me to say what the best music is....my EARS, my good man! This was a television broadcast so of course this would have been an amplified session. If not, that is the loudest fiddle I've heard. And as for Steve Cooney, he wouldn't be the first name that comes to mind as a 'sensitive' harmonic accompanist. I'm sure he'd tell you himself that much of what he did was percussion. Have you seen his old guitar?! There really is no need to 'rock out like Angus Young' in this music
I'm a bit taken aback by your arrogance. I know the programme. There are no amplifiers, just microphones for the recording. And sometimes there is a need to 'rock out' - it moves people in a different way. Just because you don't like something it doesn't make it bad.
1- It is a simple equation involving volume and force that plots guitarists such as this one at the aggressive end of the spectrum.
2- With accompaniment like that, I am in agreement with you
3- Considering the guitar is being used as a percussion instrument, I can hear it all too well. Sack the accompaniment and let's hear the fiddle properly!
4- Amongst the musicians maybe, but this is mediocre music suffering from an overdose of funk.
I really wish people would give a listen to the sensitive guitarists...the likes of Dáithí Sproule, John Blake, Mícheál Ó Domhnaill. It's not about making the most noise, it's about making the best music.
You're being unfair 1- what qualifies you to say what the best music is? 2- it's not great sound 3- there is a snare drum tapping away over the top so you can't hear the guitar properly. 4- What amplification? There's a great vibe going on in this video- that decides how good the music is. Music isn't about a box or fiddle or even a guitar being heard, it's empirical. Steve Cooney wrote the book on sensitive guitar playing, yet he can rock out there like Angus Young when he needs to
I think the relative volume of guitars accurately reflects the role of accompaniment in a session. Bear in mind, this clip features amplification - these are the levels they want you to hear. The way accompaniment is going these days, I think we're headed to a place where backers feel 'entitled' to thrash away as loud as they please. What that does is shift the communal determination of the drive/lift/groove/vibe to ONE person. And I think that is a bad, bad idea.
I was very impressed by this, especially the woman playing the violin. As others said, it seems like these days guitar players like to play so violently / loudly.
Guitar players are usually the most difficult to hear in session playing. They provide the harmonic backing for all the other melody players, and are usually buried under all the other players.
Ya, to be true to the "tradition" those uppity young folk should only play the harp and the eagle bone whistle. Anything else is a European import, eh? Fortunately, music itself transcends small minds. If ya don't care for the setting, switch the channel. We'll all be dead soon enough, eh? I prefer to enjoy the lively arts than sit at home cursing the living.
pfraterdeus 3 days ago
Les puristes sont toujours choqués dès qu'on s'éloigne de la VO.Moi je trouve que chacun a le droit de faire à sa sauce du moment que c'est bon.
TheBoule3 2 months ago
Excellent fiddle, superb accompaniment and very tasteful percussion.
Thanks for the post.
musosolo 2 months ago
AWSOME I wish our sessions were just this good.
nobodyknew1 7 months ago
Amazing how one family can have so much talent.
ralpheym 1 year ago
High B!!?/ Tuning?
Lisnageeragh 1 year ago
@Lisnageeragh B minor!
sgtcrab1 9 months ago
No need for a "drummer"! Use the bodhran.
getridofthetonedeaf 1 year ago
@getridofthetonedeaf The "drummer" is one of the most respected percussionists in trad music.
Raighne01 1 year ago
too much arguing here to realize that the title of the songs alone would make for an excellent joke...
diabhal 2 years ago 16
l o l
josecalcru1 2 years ago
From Australia. Keep the music comming. We are all blessed to be able to hear and see these videos. Be thankfull. Love it.
nobodyknew0 2 years ago
Therein lies your problem mate...traditional music is just that, traditional. It doesn't need a "way forward". It doesn't need to be made "relevant". If you find yourself growing bored with traditional music, may I humbly suggest.....USER ERROR
seanearnest 2 years ago
Problem? I enjoy Michael Coleman as much as the Flaming Lips or Stravinsky. If there's a "problem" in this thread it's some stone narrow-mindedness. Traditional music has to move forward to survive. Do you think it hasn't ever changed?? It's evolving just as the communities from where it originates are evolving. Without it we wouldn't have the rich culture of music in Galicia or Cape Breton or America.
bfocs 2 years ago
@bfocs Traditional music needs to keep true to its roots otherwise you end up with"bluegrass" which totally destroys the original tunes, and the players continually try to "move forward" and play faster and faster, thus compounding the problem and trashing the original melody and tempo!
ibjtp 1 year ago
A pity you couldn't be 'taken aback' any farther. The fact of the matter is that this being a published video, it is subject to commentary and criticism. I think it's shit. You don't. Fair play to you. But what is NOT a matter of opinion is the volume and funk being liberally applied to traditional music. Undeniable. I think it's a horrible horrible thing. For fecks sake if you feel the need to 'rock out', please confine yourselves to rock music and not traditional music.
seanearnest 2 years ago
I'm sure some people similar to yourself felt the same way about blues when Robert Johnson's music was brought from it's origins to give us legends like JImi Hendrix and Eric Clapton. Mike McGoldrick, Sharon Shannon, Lau and many others I feel are lighting the way forward for traditional music, while still keeping the trad very much present.
bfocs 2 years ago
@bfocs I honestly don't remember Jimi Hendrix playing any Robert Johnson tunes!
ibjtp 1 year ago
Why all of the childish arguing about music? This is something we should enjoy. It is art, you can take it as you please. But please don't ruin it with politics.
hamaki747 2 years ago
Get over it. YouTube is a public forum in which commentary plays an inherent and vital function. It is a matter of debate whether this example qualifies as 'music' or not...
seanearnest 2 years ago
you have such a closed mind seanearnest, shelng with many others like sharon shannon, gerry o connor, mike mcgoldrick etc, are making the trad music more accesible 2 youths, and encourage them 2 play irish music as a result. they get inspired, i think its this progression that will keep the music alive for generations to come
goldenwonderpotato 2 years ago
As to what qualifies me to say what the best music is....my EARS, my good man! This was a television broadcast so of course this would have been an amplified session. If not, that is the loudest fiddle I've heard. And as for Steve Cooney, he wouldn't be the first name that comes to mind as a 'sensitive' harmonic accompanist. I'm sure he'd tell you himself that much of what he did was percussion. Have you seen his old guitar?! There really is no need to 'rock out like Angus Young' in this music
seanearnest 2 years ago
I'm a bit taken aback by your arrogance. I know the programme. There are no amplifiers, just microphones for the recording. And sometimes there is a need to 'rock out' - it moves people in a different way. Just because you don't like something it doesn't make it bad.
bfocs 2 years ago 3
1- It is a simple equation involving volume and force that plots guitarists such as this one at the aggressive end of the spectrum.
2- With accompaniment like that, I am in agreement with you
3- Considering the guitar is being used as a percussion instrument, I can hear it all too well. Sack the accompaniment and let's hear the fiddle properly!
4- Amongst the musicians maybe, but this is mediocre music suffering from an overdose of funk.
Before Cooney there was Sproule/Brady/Ó Domhnaill
seanearnest 2 years ago
I really wish people would give a listen to the sensitive guitarists...the likes of Dáithí Sproule, John Blake, Mícheál Ó Domhnaill. It's not about making the most noise, it's about making the best music.
seanearnest 2 years ago
Seanearnest,
You're being unfair 1- what qualifies you to say what the best music is? 2- it's not great sound 3- there is a snare drum tapping away over the top so you can't hear the guitar properly. 4- What amplification? There's a great vibe going on in this video- that decides how good the music is. Music isn't about a box or fiddle or even a guitar being heard, it's empirical. Steve Cooney wrote the book on sensitive guitar playing, yet he can rock out there like Angus Young when he needs to
bfocs 2 years ago
Pianoman,
I think the relative volume of guitars accurately reflects the role of accompaniment in a session. Bear in mind, this clip features amplification - these are the levels they want you to hear. The way accompaniment is going these days, I think we're headed to a place where backers feel 'entitled' to thrash away as loud as they please. What that does is shift the communal determination of the drive/lift/groove/vibe to ONE person. And I think that is a bad, bad idea.
seanearnest 2 years ago
I was very impressed by this, especially the woman playing the violin. As others said, it seems like these days guitar players like to play so violently / loudly.
hamaki747 2 years ago
Why do all the guitar players these days have to be so feckin loud and percussive?
seanearnest 2 years ago
because they can :o)
MegMerrilies 2 years ago
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should
seanearnest 2 years ago
agreed
MegMerrilies 2 years ago
Did you notice that there's actually a drummer there???? Perhaps give it a thought that he's adding to the, er...percussive nature of the backing.
bfocs 2 years ago
Guitar players are usually the most difficult to hear in session playing. They provide the harmonic backing for all the other melody players, and are usually buried under all the other players.
pianoman9876 2 years ago
I like this version of it. Mine's faster with less chords
gusthelesswise 2 years ago
Hey Sean sounding good!!!
D. :)
davidreadman 3 years ago
great!
wooo that's my dad playing up there:)
maiapiano123 3 years ago
Lovely!
JSCWhistler 3 years ago 2
Excellent performance !! Phalaïna
PhalainaBelgium 3 years ago 2
Wonderful videos you are posting!
isabellanakahara 3 years ago 2