"Hari-Hara - The Second Movement" - Digital Devil Saga

[TechieRefugee]

@atoajvs Wait... what game do you get to fight Nyarlathothep?

[jordanliow]

@TechieRefugee Persona 2

[TechieRefugee]

@jordanliow Oh yeah, that's right. I don't know why I can't remember much of anything from P2.

[VetaEXZ]

music represents last chance to win

[LobsterFusion]

2 people are obviously busy playing Halo

[supermariofan39]

THIS AND TEARS OF FEELINGS FROM .HACK//LINK ARE EPIC!

SHOJI MEGURO!YOU ARE THE VG MUSIC GOD SINCE HITOSHI SAKIMOTO!

[operationflux]

This track makes me think on the Metatron battle from Nocturne.

[calitz87]

2 people will be crushed under Hari Hara's mighty arms.

[XDragon097]

Does anyone hear a slight bit of Battle-Raidou?

[OEGSProductions]

This screams "We're screwed", no?

[shamrocker24]

puts one winged angel to shame my ass. Good yes...THAT good..hell no

[Kageryushin]

@shamrocker24

One Winged Angel is actually a pretty dull final boss theme. You just haven't matured out of it yet.

[shamrocker24]

@Kageryushin YOU apparently haven't heard the fully orchestrated version of it. YOU just haven't matured INTO it yet.

[Kageryushin]

@shamrocker24

Oh, the one from Dissidia? Of course I have, you kid, you. There's also the pretty epic one from Advent Children. Regardless, it's still pretty dull in the grand scheme of things.

[FirestormSurtr]

@Kageryushin

The original was actually better than the poorly done Advent Children version (in my opinion). But compared to this, it utterly fails anyhow.

[GrueJesus]

Puts One Winged Angel to shame.

[FirestormSurtr]

@GrueJesus

Of course it does, every SMT final boss theme I`ve heard does that

[Jimaera]

Not as original as you might think. DDS derives its story material heavily from Hindu mythology. Harihara is the combined form of Shiva and his wife Parvati- known in Hinduism as the "complete being." The term "Ardhanari" refers to this state of being. The game is chock-full of references- many of the enemies and damn near all the bosses are drawn directly from Hinduism. DDS does a great job of making an original game with borrowed myths, though... with an awesome soundtrack to boot.

[Dojan5]

Like with all Shin Megami Tensei games.

It's not called Goddess Reborn for nothing :P

[RPGFan28]

It relates to the first game in the series, the heroine is Izanami in human form

[frankenvonvogler]

Slight correction: Harihara was actually the fusion of Shiva and Vishnu, not Parvati.

You're totally right about Ardhanari though

[Jimaera]

Er, yeah, seems I got the two concepts slightly confused. XD

[BlackwingDragon]

Maybe not...in DDS 2 you need an item that PARVATI drops to battle Shiva...I don't think it's coincidence o_O.

[Jimaera]

Well yeah, Parvati was Shiva's wife. I got Ardhanari (Shiva + Parvati) confused with Hari-Hara (Shiva + Vishnu) XD

Incidentally, "Ardhanari" was a combo attack in Persona 3. It was accessed by having the personas Shiva and Parvati in the main character's posession simultaneously.

[Zaknafiein]

@frankenvonvogler Ardhanari is in the 2nd game though. at least a reference

[Zaknafiein]

@Jimaera it's still original for a game to "borrow" something like this in this way. SMT is an "occult" game series and always "borrowed" things from religions and mythologies.

[fiercezero]

Well...this game is very original...who else have a final boss that is hermaphrodite

[darkwolfzain]

Wait, wait, wait are you serious, the final boss of this game is a hermaphrodite?

[fiercezero]

Until where I know...yes

[DevilBringer119]

Yep, wait...have you finished this game yet? i dont want to spoil anything or give anything away by saying how you find out the boss is a hermaphrodite

[darkwolfzain]

Nah. I don't have this game I have Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne. Always wanted to try this game out though.

[DevilBringer119]

Ah right ok i wont say then, Nocturne is a good game tho, there is a part in DDS where you have a chance to fight the Demi-fiend from Nocturne.

[parth961]

@fiercezero boss is not hermaphrodite, its 2 male gods combined, vishnu and shiva

[fiercezero]

@parth961 not the monster thing...I was talkin about hari-hara himself

[parth961]

@fiercezero yea, harihara is vishnu and shiva combined which are both MALE, how is that hermaphrodite?

[14thOmega]

@parth961 I think he means the character that turns into Hari Hara...(god that was a weird twist)

[Lezardstherapist]

@parth961 Hm? I could've sworn that Harihara was Shiva and PARVATI combined.

[buntado6]

@Lezardstherapist That one is Ardhanarishvara

[Lezardstherapist]

@parth961 No, nevermind, just looked it up, you're right.

[rorshachfan]

@fiercezero It's not going to be the last hermaphrodite in the DDS series!! :D

[ViashinoWizard]

@rorshachfan You know what Sera's mother and father have in common?

They are both Jenna Angel.

[matteste]

@fiercezero Hellsinker does. No wait, it was one of the player characters that was a hermaphrodite.

[OyVeey]

@matteste Awesome, another Hellsinker fan!

Also, Garland may count as a hermaphrodite given that its sentience consists of four children (presumably of different genders).

[matteste]

@OyVeey I did'nt expect to be replied by another Hellsinker fan.

I think that might be more simmilar with Legion than a hermaphrodite

[matteste]

@OyVeey Also this might be a bit late but I also noticed sevral simmilarities between Hellsinker and DDS. Both are set in post apockalyptic world's in constant rain, both have hinduism overtones, bothfeature enemies that used to be human, both center around a tall tower and both main protaganist have blades attached to their arms.

[reaperofthedamned07]

@fiercezero Well... persona 3 is debatable... i mean ryoji's male, and nyx is female, and they're kinda one and the same...

But in the next game your main final protagonist is a hermaphrodite!

[Trickster242]

@fiercezero Well, Nyarlathotep shouldn't have a fixed gender, since he is the embodiment of pure chaos and evil. If the logic is right, then neither Pandora is male or female.

[suiriryoku]

Too bad the actual battle was a bit pathetically easy.

[JGoshay]

IMO, this is the best track in DDS1. It's actually my favorite end boss theme of all the PS2 SMT games. Really captures the scope and whats at stake for the battle.

[Gravelneed]

Epic Song for an Epic battle.

[kdash12]

nice

[badpoetrygolem]

Such a well done and intense piece of music.  <3 Meguro's style.